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Re: Barry (Apotex founder) and Honey Sherman found dead in their Toronto home
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2017, 01:41:42 PM »
Then we have middle east groups?? International intrigue?

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« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2017, 03:01:52 PM »
I think the use of a jacket pulled up and back over the arms, is a military tactic.  Using whatever is at hand {belts} is also a military tactic.

I do not believe this was carried out by a regular citizen, nor was it murder suicide.

I think whomever did this had military training; and the manner of their death was carried out to leave a message, and a warning  to a certain group, or a certain person.


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« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2017, 05:38:47 PM »

Although Frank magazine publishes satirical articles, I have read (from long-time readers) that it also publishes serious articles. I have to assume that their article on the Shermans falls into the latter category. The only included information from Frank, that is missing from other media sources, is that the Shermans also had their boots on. This may be a false report from their insiders.

The only official police statement listed the deaths as "suspicious", and that they were not looking for any suspects. It was a police "source" that said they were deeming it a murder-suicide, which obviously is in line with the official LE statement.

I initially figured that it must be a murder-suicide, trusting the experience and judgement of the investigators who surveyed the scene, and know a lot more than we know.  I'm not that sure now, but I am leaning toward this being the outcome at the end of the investigation. With the family hiring their own capable private detective, I trust that LE are aware that any possible initial tunnel vision won't be tolerated. That's comforting to know.

I read that LE used a vacuum device in the surrounding sewers to snag any metal objects. The reasoning behind this has been noted, as a way to snag a handgun, which could have been used to keep the Shermans under control. The aerial look at the roof could be to see if there was access to the house from the roof.

If this was a contract killing, done by a professional hit man (men) I imagine that it will be very difficult to trace and track him (them). They would likely be far removed by a few layers to the person who hired the hit. These are some of the observations that I have read, which I agree with.

This case is as mysterious as it is a tragedy. What a horrible way to die. JB--your "military" suggestion is impressive. You are so savvy, always thinking logically and when needed, outside of the box. You missed your calling as a top notch crime investigator.

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Re: Barry (Apotex founder) and Honey Sherman found dead in their Toronto home
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2017, 10:36:55 PM »
Very long article well worth reading as it has a timeline and seems to have everything in one place, including interesting subtitles.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2017/12/28/the-house-honey-and-barry-sherman-would-have-built.html

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« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2017, 10:59:54 PM »
Many irons in the fire with rival drug companies.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/legal/embattled-teva-sues-former-regulatory-exec-for-theft-trade-secrets

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As if Israel?s Teva didn?t have enough troubles on its plate?what with patent losses, pay-for-delay lawsuits, an ongoing CEO search and more?it?s now tangled in a full-blown soap opera with a former U.S. employee.

In a lawsuit filed in a federal court in Pennsylvania, the drug giant is alleging that its ex-chief of regulatory affairs for its American generics business passed trade secrets to her boyfriend, who happened to be the CEO of generics industry rival Apotex.

But it's far more than two lovers engaging in pillow talk about generic pills, Teva claims. The lawsuit alleges that, over a period of about two years ending in 2016, Teva employee Barinder Sandhu copied company files onto flash drives and passed them to Apotex CEO Jeremy Desai. Sandhu was fired in October 2016, according to the suit, which also lists Desai and Apotex as defendants.
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« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2017, 12:21:38 PM »
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But it's far more than two lovers engaging in pillow talk about generic pills, Teva claims. The lawsuit alleges that, over a period of about two years ending in 2016, Teva employee Barinder Sandhu copied company files onto flash drives and passed them to Apotex CEO Jeremy Desai. Sandhu was fired in October 2016, according to the suit, which also lists Desai and Apotex as defendants.

Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. is an Israeli multinational pharmaceutical company headquartered in Petah Tikva, Israel. It specializes primarily in generic drugs, but other business interests include active pharmaceutical ingredients and, to a lesser extent, proprietary pharmaceuticals. It is the largest generic drug manufacturer in the world and one of the 15 largest pharmaceutical companies worldwide. Teva's facilities are located in Israel, North America, Europe, and South America. Teva shares trade on both the New York Stock Exchange and the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. The company is a member of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America.
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Re: Barry (Apotex founder) and Honey Sherman found dead in their Toronto home
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2017, 12:36:40 PM »
Following is a picture of Sherman's indoor pool. One article stated that Honey's study/office was next to the pool.


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Re: Barry (Apotex founder) and Honey Sherman found dead in their Toronto home
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2017, 12:39:44 PM »
I wonder what charm Honey had to receive expensive property from $0 to $10? Wow - $0 for the property to build their dream home, and $10 for their vacation condo retreat in Florida.

She was quite the wheeler dealer.

 I could never manage it, even in a game of Monopoly.

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« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2017, 01:00:20 PM »
I don't understand that at all. Powerful people and exuberant gifts.
However their first house together as a married couple was an already established luxury house that others had lived in before, but several years later when they bought and moved in, found it unlivable and sued the builder for over 2 million dollars and won their suit. Barry also sued the new builders on the house that has not yet even been built. I can imagine that would hurt the company economically, especially at this time when companies that didn't collapse during the downturn are looking towards gaining a good financial footing.
I know I could not deal with such people very long ...
Other thoughts I will keep to myself.
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« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2017, 02:23:31 PM »
That is how people get sucked in.  Sellers see a rich couple coming, and know they are worth billions - and only to discover that the type of sale is not what they had anticipated. Even offered at a bargain - it would still have to be dickered downwards.

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« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2017, 06:13:31 PM »
The house they were presently living in was placed solely into Honey's name not long ago. The couple was found murdered in the pool area very near where Honey's office was in the house, although there have been comments made per media that one of them may have been murdered elsewhere in the house.

After reading over a lot of material, ie: lawsuits, sneaky loopholes in family businesses ... price paid and price sold for, etc ... this all sounds like a Robin Hood scene with a modern day twist. Offshore tax free accounts as well, probably.

Shades of Wong and Fendelat, imo. Very sad for family it has come to murder of their loved ones.

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« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2017, 06:37:41 PM »
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Shades of Wong and Fendelat, imo. Very sad for family it has come to murder of their loved ones.

I think you are right. And Wong and Fendelat murder is still unsolved.


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« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2018, 12:30:50 PM »
If this is outside the Norm, there may be others who do not feel secure.

It is best that the family have their own investigator, as they would feel more comfortable with him.
in my opinion.


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« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2018, 10:53:48 PM »
Depends now on what forensics Le have recovered. Hopefully they have plenty of surveillance video from neighboring homes to scrutinize , narrowing down who should have been in the area and who may be person(s) of interest... Business records may give insight and leads but not a smoking gun. The family will want to help le any way they can .. Seeing as the man they hired to conduct a  parallel investigation is apparently in good with Le it lends a much better opening to the sharing of leads and info..

Bolding is mine/jb
Makes perfect sense LG,  and hopefully le will be able to solve this mystery. 
And, I would think that the belts would yield very important clues.  Prints only of hubby in strategic places on the belts? Might point towards possibly hubby, and M/S might apply?

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Re: Barry (Apotex founder) and Honey Sherman found dead in their Toronto home
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2018, 05:17:23 AM »
Private investigation came to this conclusion.


https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/private-investigation-concludes-shermans-were-murdered-report-1.3768057
   
      
   
      


Kayla Goodfield, CTV News Toronto
Published Friday, January 19, 2018 10:29PM EST
Last Updated Friday, January 19, 2018 11:31PM EST

Private investigators looking into the deaths of Honey and Barry Sherman have concluded that the billionaire philanthropist couple was murdered, a new report says.

The Toronto Star reported on Friday night that the evidence obtained by a team of former homicide detectives hired by the Sherman family determined that the pair were the victims of a double murder, not a murder-suicide.

Barry Sherman, 75, and his wife Honey Sherman, 70, were found dead in their North York mansion on Dec. 15.

An autopsy found the couple both died of ?ligature neck compression,? but police have released few other details regarding the investigation.

Speaking with CP24 on Friday, The Star?s chief investigative reporter Kevin Donovan said he believes a lot of Torontonians believed this was a double murder ?all along.?

?(The family) did not believe that their father would kill their mother and then they went and hired some professionals who looked at it and in The Toronto Star story that we?ve broken tonight, some of the new information that?s being revealed relates to marks found on their wrists indicating that their hands were bound,? he said.

The Star?s report noted that there were no ropes or other ties found at the scene, but men?s leather belts were tied around the couple?s necks.

?Toxicology reports show that no drugs were in their bodies that would contribute to their deaths and some of the words being used by people describing the scene was almost a tableau that was staged to look like something it was not,? Donovan said.

The initial theory of a possible murder-suicide was reported by multiple media outlets citing police sources.

The theory prompted the Sherman family to hire lawyer Brian Greenspan and former chief forensic pathologist for Ontario Dr. David Chiasson to conduct a private investigation.

Toronto police are conducting a separate investigation into the couple?s deaths, but their findings have not yet been released.

Officers said they are not providing any new information or comment at this time.

?I think what the family would like is for the Toronto police to give an update in front of the camera and say exactly what they think the case is, whether they still think it?s murder-suicide or, as the family thinks, a double homicide,? Donovan said.

Toronto police have been at the family?s home since the couple was found dead continuing to investigate.

Barry Sherman was the founder of Toronto-based Apotex Inc. in 1974. Honey Sherman was a member of the board of the Baycrest Foundation and the York University Foundation. She was on the board of Mount Sinai?s Women?s Auxiliary, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre and the International American Joint Distribution Committee.

The couple was among Canada?s top philanthropists who made numerous multimillion-dollar donations to hospitals, school and charities.