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« on: September 21, 2007, 11:27:26 AM »


A loudly sobbing city man - described as a "horrible" and "evil" manipulator who "destroyed lives" - was sent to prison today for sexually abusing his stepdaughter.

The 36-year-old so devastated his ex-family, which learned of the abuse after the victim became pregnant, that his own biological daughter disowned him in her victim impact statement, read out at his sentencing.

"I feel so disgusted and pissed off and I never want contact with my so-called father," wrote the young woman.

As the hulking, shackled deviant, who had a shaved head and was dressed in jail coveralls, blubbered while staring at a wall, his former wife also tore a strip off of him.

"I was blindsided by your evil act of abuse," said the victim's angry mother, glaring malevolently at him.

"You ripped apart your role of fatherhood so brutally that I still find it very difficult to ever trust another man.

"You hurt my daughter and I never knew I could feel a hatred so strong as the one I feel for you."

Franklin Julian Logan was handed a four-year, nine-month sentence after pleading guilty to sexually exploiting a young person while in a position of trust.

However, after getting 33 months credit for the 16 1/2 months he spent in pre-trial custody, the "deeply remorseful" ironworker has just two years left to serve.

Logan was also ordered to submit a sample of his DNA for the national DNA databank and placed on the national sex offender registry for 20 years.

"You have destroyed lives," said provincial court Judge Michael Stevens-Guille. "They are still walking around, but you have destroyed them."

The judge "strongly" recommended Logan be allowed to transfer to a prison in B.C. to be closer to his parents.

"I'd like him to be as far away from this family as possible," said Stevens-Guille.

According to agreed facts, Logan began a common-law relationship with the victim's mother when the victim was two and the girl used to call him "dad."

Years later, the relationship failed, but the girl continued to spend time with Logan. In 2004, while in jail, he wrote her letters describing his love and obsession for her.

In 2005, when she was 15, the victim moved in with Logan and they began a full-on sexual relationship. Months later she became pregnant and eventually had an abortion.

After learning Logan was the father, the victim's upset mother went outside her home to have a cigarette and saw him parked down the block watching the house.

She swore at him and told him to stay away from her family and he laughed, gave her the finger and drove away.

The teen, now 17, described in her victim impact statement how the abuse made her turn to drugs and booze.

"Frank took away my childhood, which was supposed to be happy," she wrote. "Frank ruined my life."

Just before being sentenced, Logan apologized.

"I'm truly sorry for what I did," he said tearfully. "May God have mercy on me."


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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2007, 11:21:25 PM »
This is so digusting, I am so outraged! The judge is a spinless freak and should have to spend the last 2 years with the pedofreak.

This case should have brought the guy at least 15 years in prison so other inmates can make him do what he made his victims do.

Did you know that if you pay for private healthcare in Canada, the government with send you to prison for 5 years? Force kids to have sex with you and you get less time. That is stupid.

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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2007, 12:14:43 PM »
Technically in Canada, anyone who takes private money for healthcare or pays for private healthcare is subject to 5 years in prison (Except polititions, althletes and the film industry).

10 years is the most for sexual assult? THese laws need to be updated, Harper said he was going to toughen up on violent crime, I do not recall anything he has done yet though.

Louisiana is the first state to even make the death penalty available to adults who rape kids.

These weak sentences are horrible. It does reflect a 1970's attitude towards these kinds of crime.

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2007, 08:37:56 PM »


Incest can destroy a family, fracture the very foundations, that lead to not only a normal upbringing, but also the future. Like adult children of alchoholics, they have to re learn the correct coping skills to survive this society.

Most of the victim's childhood, was secretive, exploitive, and the abuse continues.


When the mother, comes across signs of exploitation, it is her duty to report as a crime. When the mother fails to do that, then all trust for the parents, is gone. You wonder who you hate more.

Sybill, had an abusive mother, so her mind did shatter, and developed mpd at an early age.There are few real cases of MPD, or as they call it now DID.

Meanwhile, life goes on, there is school, friends, any types of sports, or what ever. Many exploited children internalize the anger and the shame, and often do a lot of day dreaming, doodling, drawings, and writing. The subject is not something you can bring up with your peers.

And NO child should ever feel they are damaged goods. They should be taught this in elementary school, as part of the Health Programs. Also, the child should be speaking one on one with the child authorities. Unfortunately, the parent, or parents, usually hide the child, so not contact is made.If a neighbour or whoever, made the call, they must have seen in your face signs of a molested child.

Trust is hard, and you either trust too much, or have no trust. Us that have been victimised over a period of time, will know what I mean.Even as adults, we are vulnerable. Only one person, knew what I meant, when I said, a stare can level you to the ground with fear. We run, escape, and fast.

I will write more on this as I go on, if no one minds.

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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2007, 07:07:41 AM »
I think this is a good subject. I have learned a lot about this subject in the past year. For the most part, this subject was never talked about and victims had to endure the issue alone. Times have changed and society is taking this seriously now.

I had read that as many as half the serial killers, molestors and such had been victims themselves. That means if we can start dealing with the issue now, then those types of crimes will drop because they are not creating new victims.


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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2007, 01:23:24 PM »
Adrian's take on abuse:::

I went to a therapist, when I was in my late twenties, or early 30's. She just had a baby, and altho she was head of the psychiatric Unit, in the town, she decided she needed to bond more with her new baby, Her Hubby, also a physician.She took about six months off, BUT, she kept 3 patieants, and one of them was me. This was about my 3rd visit.

I had opened up to someone who was listening, being objective, and not making faces.In other words, she looked at me as a peer, instead of being damaged goods. She helped build my ego up. She told me that all my writings, and drawings, I did was a catharsis of sorts.This was my teen years. In grade 3 I drew pics of men,s penises in all the history books. I had to erase them, and I liked to sing, so my teacher brought in a tape recorder.

My drawings were rather good, as I had mine stolen, on parents night at the school, the one we had months to do.The art teacher, said Adrian, I have so much bad news to tell you. I said, what? He said, your drawing for the year was stolen.I looked at him and bursted out laughing, and he said, Adrian, this is serious! I said, yeah, but mine must of been really good. I had 3 weeks to do another.which I did.

My art was filled with, lot's of eyes, cages, and knives. My writings were great. I was allowed at the art room at any time, as I did math for 3 times and failed.So I was a grade 8 math, and a grade 11 English., my teacer compared my work to Beardsley. I used ink, fountain pen, and filled in with colored pencils. So my pics were colorful, with so much symbolism.

It is of great importance, to find someone to confide in. When I first saw the therapist, it was for insomnia. She listened to me complain of not sleeping, and finally I brought up the abuse. She said, You know, you did a lot of your own therapy in your teens, with writings, and drawings.

I had by time studied books dealing with this issue, being an avid, and voratious reader. I read books written by people that it happened to, as well as medical type books, with case studies. I must of read at least 50.

The therapist told me, I had already experienced, the most wicked problem of my life.I saw her for only 6 visits.

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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2007, 02:15:04 PM »
Desespere, one thing I have heard and seen many times is mom selling kids nudies for money and even letting people have sex with kids for money on video.

Child porn has taken off because of the internet, this is how they all meet up. They have secret servers, mega restricted access to what they do.

Before the internet, they had to reply on Sears catelogs, photos they can take themselves and chancing upon fellow pedophiles. They can recognize each other by the things they do I read.

One of the creepiest guys I ever met sent me about 50 photos of really old grain elevator pictures to add to my site about 2 years ago. In it, he 'accidently' had a gay image of what looked to be about an 18 year old with an old (66)er man. I totally ignored that then he admited he made an error, but asked what I thought of it.

I always wondered if this creep was trying to find out if I was one of his kind. Anyway, I never did upload his photos and I broke off contact with that sicko.

I think the pedophile people are so good at what they do, no wonder they are so upset that society is cracking down on them. I love that perverted justice too, they are under attack from the pedo-lobby.

If you ever get bored one day, create a fake profile on facebook and make yourself 12 and see how many wankers e-mail you stuff.

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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2007, 04:14:14 PM »
Well, that is a myth, they cannot do anything about what you search. Willow once posted a list of words that people search and it included some very scary stuff like how to kill someone etc.

THey do use the search to find stuff, and from what I understand, they use pedophile liberation websites to meet up. Not quite sure how they screen people though, but more and more of those groups are being busted all the time.

The guy here was busted because the center for the USA center for exploited children sent a tip and I think someone found some discarded images in his garbage too (I wonder if she\he did that on porpose knowing... this is a small town!)

He got 1 year in jail for that.

But most busts from what I read are when private citizens infilrate a pedo group, or one of the pedos screws and the police find them and then all his buddies get busted too.

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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2007, 05:11:56 PM »


I believe there are catch phrases, certain words, grouped to gether. I went to one which was defending the rights of pedophillia. I jumped right in and started talking. I was threatened with the ACLU, and being sued!!! ;D ??? ??? ??? Didn't stop tho" I got others to join. What was the purpose of that site??

It was to condition people as well as teens etc, that having these feelings is normal. They want you to express your joy in a loving., healthy manner.The child will like it, and we should all start realizing this.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(FREAKS!!!

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I believe it is Canada which has the highest rate of captures, in the internet world. Ontario Cops have done a good job of cutting into these porn rings.I know of one cop who was given some kind of honour, but I forget his name. He helped expose, so muc
h hurrendous abuse on the internet, and world wide affiliations.



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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2007, 07:53:21 PM »
Yeah Canada is considered a leader in busting thesee rings, the OPP was pretty much the first police dept to create a unit dedicated just to this.

And I agree with Des, what good is it if judges won't keep em in jail.

I know some people see child porn as a free speech issue (The ACLU takes that position too) like that guy on AMW, but it is not, it is a crime and kids are victimized for that.

That's what really bothers me, it seems there is a certain mindset being adopted by certain people that this child sex stuff is overblown and even read some underversity professors (1 from Canada) talking about how it should be considered natural and went on to say that the only damage to the child is his shame brought on from living in a Christian society that makes them feel bad.

Yeah, what a sicko. Like that is all a child feels bad about, being a bad Christian.

Well, I don't think this is going to work for those people. Even in the 70's at the height of the sex revolution, people were repulsed by the pedophile sex scene in Toronto, and support for laws against child molsestors and child porn is strong amung all party affiliations, from all demographics.


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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2007, 12:11:52 PM »
I think any pedophile male or female should be excluded from society period, have no rights whatsoever and be sterilized. open Alcatraz back up and send them there  >:(

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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2007, 03:29:12 PM »
Not such a bad idea, they will reoffend as soon as they get out, there is no reason to keep giving chances to someone who is simply going to seek out a new victim.

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2007, 02:08:23 PM »
Keep It in the Family??? Ughhhhhhhh, yuk! >:( >:(

It seems to me, that the sentencing of pedophiles, especially if they are incest, get lower terms to do do in the slammer. Unless the case is truly horrific, do they get longer sentences.

The social worker mentality is to keep the family together. It is slowly changing, but not fast enuff.

I used to think of ways, that my father would die, every thing from fatal accidents, to me doing something drastic. I knew he was bad, and I knew he was wrong.We children, do know what is happening. We are also aware, of the other parent. My mother pulled him off me in Kindergarten. Was told to go back to sleep. She talked about it with a neighbour, whose daughter was my friend.

Stuff like this gets talked about, so I put up with a lot of innuendo.The house you live in is no longer safe, it is toxic, just by the actions of the inhabitants. Most of my weekends were spent at other people's houses. There was safety, I could wear my pajamas, didn't need a knife beside me, and didn't have to stick a knife in the door.

There is so much pretense, and being secretive, and feeling alone. By the age of 4,5, I had an imaginary friend. He was an old man, I called Harry, and we did a lot together, parks, zoo, all the fun stuff, and safety.

When I heard, as an adult, that my step father had died, I called up my friends, and we partied.I hadn't been home in 20 years.

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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2007, 08:58:13 PM »
Wow Adrian, it must have been a bad experience. I'm sorry that happened to you. It is so wonderful though, that you have turned such a bad thing into a passion for helping other people. Others won't hae to experience what you did thanks to you speaking up.

Let's all hope others come and join us in getting sex offenders locked up with no key.

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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2007, 01:39:30 AM »
                  Papa Pilgrim: Keeping it in the family.

By DAN JOLING, Associated Press Writer 42 minutes ago

A man who called himself "Papa Pilgrim" and took his family far from civilization to raise them according to his interpretation of the Bible was sentenced Tuesday to 14 years in prison for sexually assaulting a daughter.

A judge imposed the sentence after Robert Hale's wife and many of their 15 children delivered statements that included intense stories of physical and mental abuse. Judge Donald Hopwood called it "one of the worst cases of domestic violence I've seen."

Hale and his family came to prominence during a feud with the National Park Service after family members used a bulldozer without permission to clear a road in Wrangell-St. Elias National Park.

Land rights advocates rallied to their cause, and stories featured their plight as a case of big government versus simple folks loving music, fearing God and living off the land.

But that rustic image was a facade, Hale's wife, Kurina Rose Hale, testified during his sentencing hearing. She and many of the couple's children asked Hopwood to send Hale to prison to a long time because they feared what would happen if he were released.

Hopwood sentenced Hale to 10 years in prison for sexual assault and two years each for incest and coercion.

Hale, 66, spent much of Tuesday on the stand, denying charges of sexual and physical abuse leveled against him by family members. Hopwood said he simply didn't believe Hale's denials because so many witnesses testified consistently.

Hale had been indicted on 30 counts of rape, incest, coercion, kidnapping and assault for crimes against one of his daughters, committed between 1998 and 2005.

On the eve of his trial last December, Hale pleaded no contest to the three counts in exchange for a sentence of 14 years. But he later tried to withdraw the plea. He said he had made a mistake because he had been sick in jail, on medications and was not well-represented by his public defender.

Last month, in a hearing to decide on his change of plea, Hale changed his mind again and returned to a no-contest plea.

Hale insisted that he had a perfect spiritual understanding, his wife, Kurina Rose Hale, testified Monday.

"This is how he justified all his immoral activity," she said.

Hale was accused of persuading one child that she was a "special kind of daughter" and that she must have sex with him.

The sexual abuse culminated with an incident in the tiny community of McCarthy, about 275 miles east of Anchorage in Wrangell-St. Elias.

That's where Hale locked his daughter in a shed for three days, sexually assaulted her and beat her so badly her face looked like a black and blue basketball, according to another daughter's testimony.

Another daughter and the abuse victim left the family grounds to notify authorities.

Hale ran from law enforcers for two weeks before he was taken into custody.

Other children testified of prolonged beatings at the hands of the family patriarch, including boys being stretched out over a "beating barrel" and lashed with a three-cord riding crop.

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Another Bible Thumper, with sex on his mind, will be leaving his family with many memories, not many any good, WTF, these creeps are everywhere!!!
Open the link, and meet el freako!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071128/ap_on_re_us/papa_pilgrim&printer=1;_ylt=AgSqOFZrh5ogH6PJ2mZvjCpH2ocA
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