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Vanessa Marcotte, Aug 8/2016 Murdered, Princeton, Mass.
« on: August 20, 2016, 11:23:51 AM »
Vanessa Marcotte, 27 years old was murdered on Aug. 8, 2016 in Princeton, Mass.  She was visiting her mom, she had travelled from New York, where she was employed with Google. She went for a run at 1:00 p.m. and never returned. Her body was found later that day . Her hands and feet were burned. I don't know how to put the link on here, but if someone could just tag into there and put the news story on here. There were 600 tips called in and as yet there are no arrests. The police indicated they felt it was a "random act" of violence. ]Apparently this area is not known for violent crimes and the residents were quite shocked at this crime. Her funeral was this week and the family and friends were shocked at the violence that happened here. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends of Vanessa, a beautiful life taken away.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


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Re: Vanessa Marcotte, Aug 8/2016 Murdered, Princeton, Mass.
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2016, 11:35:38 AM »
Someone may have been jealous of her position with google and the fact she likes to keep in shape by running? Reason for burning her extremities?
What a horrible thing to happen to anyone! 

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Re: Vanessa Marcotte, Aug 8/2016 Murdered, Princeton, Mass.
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2016, 04:39:17 PM »
Sap1, I am also of the opinion that she could have been targetted. It is amazing that this happened in broad daylight on a Sunday afternoon in a community that never had a murder in 30 years. I believe she was being stalked, maybe. I wonder if she went home to see her mom, because of troubles she may have been having with someone and wanted to relax a bit. It would be interesting to know if the police have looked into anyone that she was having trouble with in New York, at her job or in her personal life. I find it very unusual that they tried to burn her feet and hands. I mean what in the heck was that about, I know it would mean possibly to keep from being identified. She was found only about a mile from home. Somebody knows something and has seen someone with injuries and scratches on them. Please anyone with information about this horrible crime, please get in touch with the Princeton Police. You are just hiding a killer and you may be next, if you are keeping evidence to yourself and you could also be prosecuted, please come forward. :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Just a note extra here, I really believe the police should be looking at people she works with and who she confided in that she was going to visit her mom, I think they will find her killer.
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Re: Vanessa Marcotte, Aug 8/2016 Murdered, Princeton, Mass.
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2016, 05:12:47 PM »
They may already be looking into co-workers. I would have loved to work for google as it apparently is something many want ... great benefits and perks.

I never thought of finger prints etc, but yes that is another reason why the perp would want to burn. These days dental records are even more useful.

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Re: Vanessa Marcotte, Aug 8/2016 Murdered, Princeton, Mass.
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2016, 04:58:54 PM »
Sap1, It does sound very unusual that he took the time to damage her remains. It was very quickly after the crime that the police indicated that it was a "random act" of violence. I think that was a pretty quick in saying what happened, of course, they could have been trying to make someone relax and feel they wouldn't be found out. I do feel they will get the killer, unless he was a traveller, just passing through the city. I am sure they have DNA and everything in this case. They found her that day and so she was not out in the elements too long. Hoping they solve this case quickly.


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Re: Vanessa Marcotte, Aug 8/2016 Murdered, Princeton, Mass.
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2016, 07:11:45 AM »
SAP1, thanks for posting that new information and update on Vanessa. That is certainly interesting information related to the couple washing up, supposedly after a mv accident. I  am wondering in my mind if Karina Vetrano  and Vanessa knew one another. I mean Vanessa worked in New York and Karina was murdered in NY and she was a jogger. The couple seen, they just could have something to do with this crime, the excuse they gave sounds really unusual, especially related to the ambulance people. Well that story would be easy to check out, because there shouldn't be that many ambulance services that took a call to that area and they could verify those people and they would have their names and addresses, if they attended to them. They also would have to pay the cost of the ambulance. So hopefully the police will check that out. I am a firm believer that every clue in these cases has to be checked out and verified. That is the way cases are solved. I do see many cases that could have been solved when clues were given and never followed up on.  :o :o :o :o :o

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Re: Vanessa Marcotte, Aug 8/2016 Murdered, Princeton, Mass.
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2016, 10:50:41 AM »
Well it seems that the strong poi fizzled out, or else they are watching his moves. Police still looking.

I just don't understand why in this day and age, people still walk around or jog distant into bushes with music plugged in their ears. One just never knows what is behind them ready to pounce.

The more I think of this, the more I think this was a stalker psycho following these girls. Perhaps this is his MO ... he drives around until he finds a jogger and watches them to find out where, how often they jog and plans his attack.

I hope these people were able to give good descriptions of the strangers noted doing strange things the day Vanessa disappeared.

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Re: Vanessa Marcotte, Aug 8/2016 Murdered, Princeton, Mass.
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2016, 08:33:46 PM »
If this is the first time in 30 years for Princeton, I think this guy is new to the area.  Perhaps a student.

Hands and feet burned -Now that is very strange! ???

Is he a psycho?

She may have been his first victim - and perhaps not the last.??

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Re: Vanessa Marcotte, Aug 8/2016 Murdered, Princeton, Mass.
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2016, 01:50:00 AM »
You could have something there JB. SK's also travel distances. Perhaps that may be a good tip for investigators?

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Re: Vanessa Marcotte, Aug 8/2016 Murdered, Princeton, Mass.
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2016, 11:14:01 AM »
I will try, and perhaps others may wish to pass it on to both law enforcements.
It certainly would not hurt.

http://www.masslive.com/news/worcester/index.ssf/2016/08/fbi_profiler_on_vanessa_marcotte_killer.html

on August 13, 2016 at 7:32 AM, updated August 14, 2016 at 8:27 AM
As investigators look for the killer of Vanessa Marcotte, a former FBI profiler says clues may be provided by the victim.

Signs of a struggle, the victim's background and day-to-day life can offer context as to how and why a person died.

Patricia Kirby is a forensic psychologist who has four decades of experience with law enforcement. She started her career with the Baltimore Police Department before becoming an FBI special agent and profiler. After leaving the bureau, she began serving as a consultant with federal, state and local agencies. She spoke with MassLive regarding the death of Vanessa Marcotte in Princeton and the possibility of a connection to Karina Vetrano, the jogger killed in Queens this month.

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Marcotte is a New York City resident who grew up in Central Massachusetts before attended Boston University for her undergraduate. She was in Princeton on Sunday, Aug. 7, visiting family when she went for a run less than half a mile from her mother's home.

After she didn't return to the house by Sunday evening, Marcotte was reported missing. Her body was found around 8:30 p.m., more than seven hours after she went for a run. Sources say her body was burned and she was found by police unclothed.

Her attacker is a man who likely suffered injury while struggling with Marcotte, Worcester County District Attorney Joseph D. Early, Jr. said at a press conference Thursday afternoon. It is not currently known if her killing was a random act. Her death is Princeton's first in three decades.

She had a pattern. Marcotte would visit her mother on a weekends and go for a run before returning to the city on Sundays. If she was the intended victim and her killing was not a random act, Kirby said her weekend runs "would be the place."

She added, "If someone wanted harm for her, they'd know where to find her."

For someone seeking to hurt women, she said jogging areas are a desirable location. During her time with the FBI, Kirby investigated numerous cases of women who became victims or rape and murder while jogging. Runners are often distracted by music heard through headphones and may run alone.

"It's a very productive place for someone wishing ill will," she said.

Attacking a jogger also speaks to the character of a killer, Kirby said. Marcotte was athletic, assertive, and fought her attacker before her death.

"They're going to fight like hell to get away," Kirby said, of her and other athletic victims.

It is not publicly known how her assailant attacked Marcotte; if she saw him approach or he snuck up on her, if he attacked with his fists or a weapon.

After her death, Marcotte's body was burned. This action speaks to the killer's mindset after the crime was committed, Kirby said. "She fought him and they struggled. He had to know she had his DNA."

If he previously committed a crime, his DNA would be in the system and would lead investigators to him. The flames could destroy such evidence, though it is not believed to have achieved the killer's goal as her body was not entirely burned.

She's not the first young woman to die in such a way. A 29-year-old Ohio woman was brutally beaten, choked and dragged into an area of tall grass in 2012 where she was set ablaze. The following year, three were convicted and sentenced to life in prison for her death.

The death of Marcotte shares some eery similarities to the case of Karina Vetrano, New York City woman who was killed jogging the week prior. A man attacked Vetrano by hitting her over the head with a rock and dragging her body into a nearby wooded area.

Following a struggle, Vetrano was strangled so forcefully her neck was almost broken. "This indicates to me that the assailant was a having a difficult time and getting frustrated so he overreacted in strangulation," Kirby said.

No connection has been made between the two cases but both Massachusetts State Police and the New York Police Department have requested information from each other on their homicide cases.

It's possible that one killer committed both deaths, Kirby said, though too early to know.

"You want to look for links between cases and look for anything that can be connected," she said.

While the deaths occurred 200 miles apart, distance isn't always a deterrent for violent individuals.

"Serial killers will travel. It's a part of their ability to stay off the radar of law enforcement," she said, though cautioning no conclusions should be made.


Police are searching for men whose vehicles were seen in the area Marcotte was killed Sunday. Anyone with information about her death can call 508-453-7589. As of Friday afternoon, approximately 450 tips were reported to state police but investigators seek more.

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Re: Vanessa Marcotte, Aug 8/2016 Murdered, Princeton, Mass.
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2016, 11:42:52 AM »
I can help with that JB. I do hope they have an e-mail link so I can also send them the info on Valerie LaBlanc.

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Re: Vanessa Marcotte, Aug 8/2016 Murdered, Princeton, Mass.
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2016, 12:33:15 PM »
Quote Sap1

I can help with that JB. I do hope they have an e-mail link so I can also send them the info on Valerie LaBlanc. unquote.

Go ahead Sap - and let us know if they respond.  Am wondering about the Quebec Surete, if they should also know about the American victim.

I will look as well, and send it to you.
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