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« Reply #75 on: February 17, 2018, 09:51:22 PM »
iTA Capeheart.

When I read what these 20 something men have to say, I feel there is no hope of ever having reconciliation work. I am so tired of all the BS already.
There are many FN people who are great and did great things and then there are the small but loud activists who will not be accountable for their own actions. It seems to me a blind eye is turned when they began drinking and driving and getting into trouble with the law and then hate all cops and justice and their parents are right behind them supporting all the way.

The following is what they are thinking and propagating:

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Cassidy Cross
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It?s fucked up how indigenous people were once slaves of the Caucasians and how they trained us to be racist against ourselves and the places we were raised in. you kept us caged in, destroyed our culture and said you civilized us, raped our women, and when we were born you despised us.

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« Reply #76 on: February 17, 2018, 10:10:32 PM »
I had to catch my breath when I read Cross.  His feelings about us  is heartbreaking.

 I have witnessed discrimination of them in my life.

We live in a bubble if we have not witnessed it.

However, the words of Mr. Cross alarms me.

I have the following message for Mr. Cassidy Cross.
 
"No good can come of you, Mr. Cross when your heart is so full of hatred of us"
It eats away at a person, and creates a shadow of oneself. By your very attitude, you have placed yourself in your own personal cage. We all have hardships to face, and to overcome.  You are not alone in that.

 Opportunity comes to all of us, regardless of our skin colour.  Get and stay sober, less you can't see it when it does come. Opportunity for positive change often comes in small ways.   Work hard Cassidy, for changes and improvements on your reserve first. You would be surprised as to the satisfaction that you receive when you can see change due to your positive efforts. As it goes for all of us,  change  begins at home.

Youth can make a difference for the good.  Be part of it, not apart from it.

Get after the chief to seriously go to bat for his people and create change on your reserve.

What kind of a role model is he ?

If he is so wrapped up in himself, his salary etc. have him voted out.

 You know something Cassidy? I am tired of my people being blamed for every single shortfall of your people.

Lets see some initiative in cleaning up your own home front first, before you start criticizing us, and then we can better appreciate one another.
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« Reply #77 on: February 18, 2018, 01:42:02 AM »
This is happening at the hands of their own administration.

http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-news/appeal-of-red-pheasant-band-election-still-before-the-courts-more-than-a-year-later

This is right across Canada. Yet all the ills are our fault for some reason. Those voted into power have no idea of governance. Really very sad situations. Not a wonder the young people are totally "lost" by the time they reach early 20's.
Bringing this up is not racist; it's a fact of life.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/rethinkingthereserve/week+problems+governance/280526/story.html

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« Reply #78 on: February 18, 2018, 02:37:16 AM »
quote sap

This is right across Canada. Yet all the ills are our fault for some reason. Those voted into power have no idea of governance. Really very sad situations. Not a wonder the young people are totally "lost" by the time they reach early 20's.
Bringing this up is not racist; it's a fact of life.

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« Reply #79 on: February 18, 2018, 03:38:21 AM »
This Grand Chief is originally from Red Pheasant reserve, but now he is also under fire from his own people. The link will tell you why.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/02/12/robert-falcon-ouellettes-remarks-on-gerald-stanley-are-reckless-grand-chief_a_23359774/?ncid=fcbklnkcahpmg00000001

Comments made by a federal MP about Gerald Stanley's acquittal are "reckless" and could lead to more violence, a Manitoba grand chief said Monday.

Liberal MP Robert-Falcon Ouellette told the Winnipeg Free Press that he felt sorry for both the Boushie and Stanley families.

"I'm really sorry for the Boushie family. But I'm also sorry for the Stanley family ... The Stanley family, and many farmers in Saskatchewan, have the feeling that their property is not respected and people come on to their farms and steal their stuff," the Winnipeg Centre MP said. "They've essentially lost two years of their lives. They've faced legal bills and great difficulty."

He said that Saskatchewan is "a lawless state in some ways," because the RCMP doesn't respond to theft quickly enough.

Gerald Stanley was found not guilty of second-degree murder by a jury in Battleford, Sask. on Friday.
A jury found Stanley not guilty of second-degree murder on Friday. He was accused of shooting Colten Boushie, 22, in the head after an SUV drove onto Stanley's farm near Biggar, Sask. Stanley's lawyer argued that the fatal shot was an accident.

Ouellette hails from Red Pheasant First Nation, the same Cree nation that counted Boushie as a member.

The Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs slammed Ouellette's comments on social media.

"Two years doesn't compare to the entire life that Colten Boushie lost in 2016," the Assembly wrote.

Our teachings speak to the sacredness of human life and these comments fly in the face of what our ancestors have been teaching us since time immemorial.
Grand Chief Arlen Dumas
"How is it even possible for an elected representative of the Government of Canada, who ran as an Indigenous candidate, defend the taking of a human life in order to defend property and 'stuff'?" asked Grand Chief Arlen Dumas. "Our teachings speak to the sacredness of human life and these comments fly in the face of what our ancestors have been teaching us since time immemorial."

"For a prominent Indigenous MP to support the right of an individual to defend their property in this same manner is reckless and dangerous, and could result in an increase in violent confrontation and the deaths of more innocent people ... No property is more valuable than a human life and the AMC stands and fully supports the Boushie family in their quest to change the way First Nations people are treated in the criminal justice system."


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Grand Chief Arlen Dumas speaks during a signing ceremony to improve child and family services in Manitoba First Nations communities in Ottawa on Dec. 7, 2017.
Neither Ouellette nor the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs immediately responded to requests for comment.

The MP made similar comments in an interview with CBC News on Saturday.

He called Boushie's death "an abject failure of our society."

Farmers in Saskatchewan feel that they have to protect their property on their own, he said. He also said that it was disappointing to hear that the jury for Stanley's trial didn't reflect the province's population.

Boushie's cousin, Jade Tootoosis, previously said that defence lawyers rejected all visibly Indigenous people during jury selection.

Sixteen per cent of Saskatchewan's population identifies as Aboriginal, according to Statistics Canada.


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« Reply #80 on: February 18, 2018, 04:01:31 AM »
The five who were drinking that Sunday, among other things, were all descendants from Chiefs who had been through the justice system for driving impaired, thefts, corruption, etc. Some did jail time. The present Chief, also related to some of these adults is presently in the system awaiting trials. There is much info on the Net. Seems to me, these leaders failed to ingrain traditional values.

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« Reply #81 on: February 18, 2018, 01:01:26 PM »
{No need to keep saying that you are not racist sap.  Because You are NOT!! You always try to give everyone a "fair shake"}

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Seems to me, these leaders failed to ingrain traditional values.

Bringing up their traditional values and customs, is always used by some of them, when it suits them, and it gives a readily available cover for their own failures.

How can some of them even speak of values, when some chiefs steal from their own people, and break other laws, thus serving jail time? A Chief should represent the best of the people that he serves. He or she should be a problem solver, not a problem to be solved.

Farmers with Firearms is a fb page, and the comments are enlightening.  Many of them have had thefts on their property.  One poster said that the Stanley family has had death threats, and have had to hire security guards. 

He may still face a retrial.  Another poster said that the Stanley's have worked hard all of their lives for their farm, and now this. They have lost their harvest, etc, etc.

Some criticize their own Aboriginal MP's if they do not agree with them. Sad.

By way of google, I was aware of the RP's chief's bad boy behaviour.  He has no shame.

The National POst article exposes the corruption on reserves, and the amount of money pouring into the reserves is astonishing....  Yet they would have us believe that we do not give them enough.  The chiefs who can stand by and see their people living in terrible conditions, and spending the money on themselves and family, have no shame.

The Fed's should overhaul Indian Affairs, and all of their programs going to our natives.
However, the Feds now have the  thought of paying each native directly, and to let them manage their own money - If so, then they should insist that every household on those reserves attend classes to learn money managment.  Whatever the Feds decide, Professional Oversight on reserve monies spent,should be implemented on bad reserves immediately.  Canadian's should insist on it! 

Discouraging and discusting state of affairs,  Thank you National Post for your research and well written article.  .....I hope many Canadians read it.


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« Reply #82 on: February 18, 2018, 05:02:11 PM »
Very familiar names appear here. Different areas, different people.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/six-men-charged-red-pheasant-hunting-1.3799959

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Six men have been charged with illegal hunting and outfitting after a year-long investigation near North Battleford, Sask.

Officials with the province's environment ministry say undercover officers from the United States booked hunts with an outfitting business called Rezz Raxx ? based on the Red Pheasant First Nation. The investigation was started in response to concerns about increased illegal hunting practices in the area
The undercover operation resulted in a slew of charges against the six men, from illegal outfitting to use of a search light.


Lawrence Lee Meechance, 39, was fined $17,900 for outfitting without a licence, aiding and abetting unlawful hunting near North Battleford, falsifying an export permit application and driving without a driver's licence.

Robin D. Wuttunee, 38, was fined $12,510 for unlawful hunting near Landis, use of a search light for hunting, unlawful hunting and hunting on posted land near Kindersley, guiding without a licence and driving without a driver's licence.

Tyrone Adam Cuthand, 32, was fined $10,470 for guiding without a licence near Battleford, unlawful hunting near Sonningdale, using a search light for hunting near Maymont, driving without a driver's licence and falsifying an export permit application.

Dennis Kennedy, 27, was fined $3,150 for aiding and abetting, carrying a loaded firearm in a vehicle, guiding without a licence near Battleford, hunting on posted land near Landis, unlawful hunting near Ruthilda and driving without a driver's licence.

Stephen A.D. Armstrong, 28, was fined $10,000 for unlawfully hunting and hunting on posted land near Kindersley, unlawful hunting near Golden Prairie, using a search light for hunting near Gull Lake and guiding without a licence near Battleford.

Gregg John Shawn Meechance, 28, was fined $1,120 for falsifying an export permit application.
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« Reply #83 on: February 18, 2018, 06:56:41 PM »
https://globalnews.ca/news/1925403/saskatchewan-men-fined-for-hunting-elk-unlawfully/

more private property offenses.  Same names

NORTH BATTLEFORD, Sask. ? An elk shot on private property in Saskatchewan has resulted in $5,880 in fines for three men. The men were charged for unlawfully hunting near Biggar in October 2013.

The charges stem from a call to a Saskatchewan Ministry of Environment field office. Conservation officers investigated the complaint and found the men at the scene with the animal.
Lawrence Lee Meechance, Neal Meechance and Gerald Meechance of Red Pheasant First Nation were each fined $1,960 in North Battleford provincial court last month.



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« Reply #84 on: February 18, 2018, 08:39:50 PM »
Before the Gerald Stanley incident: Again the same names, Wuttunee and Meechance

(According to Meechance FB page, he was discharged from jail in Sept 2016 so he wasn't in the car with the crew that vandalized the countryside)

http://thestarphoenix.com/news/crime/men-await-sentencing-for-night-of-theft-and-violence-including-robbing-two-women-who-stopped-to-help-them

Two men with roots in North Battleford and the Red Pheasant First Nation are expected to be sentenced Thursday after entering last-minute guilty pleas to charges stemming from what Crown prosecutor Tamara Rock called ?a night of theft and violence? in late 2015.

Rocky Meechance, 22, and Cody Wuttunee, 21, pleaded guilty to the charges ? which include breaking and entering and using a stolen .22-calibre rifle to steal a car ? hours after their trial was scheduled to start in Saskatoon provincial court.

Judge Brent Klause reserved his decision after Rock and defence attorney Mike Buchinski made a joint submission asking him to sentence Meechance to six years in prison with credit for 18 months on remand and order Wuttunee to serve four years with credit for 38 days on remand.

Wuttunee, Meechance and four youths decided to rob two women who stopped to offer help after seeing the group?s vehicle in a ditch around 3 a.m. on Dec. 19, 2015.

?It doesn?t get much worse than that,? Klause said.

The group?s crimes began hours earlier when they left North Battleford in a stolen vehicle and spent the late evening and early morning stealing from acreages and confronting one property owner in the Clavet area, court heard.


After crashing and stealing a car from the women who stopped to help them ? one of the women later said she pleaded for her life when one of the group pointed a rifle at her ? they led police on a high-speed chase through Saskatoon to North Battleford, court heard.

?There was a resolution that worked for all parties and ? the accused believed they were better positioned to enter guilty pleas,? Buchinski said of the plea deal, noting neither man had an extensive criminal record at the time of the offences.

Rock said the pleas could have been a result of the Crown?s readiness to proceed with a trial, but noted the admissions of guilt are a great relief for all of the victims, especially the two women who were assaulted on the side of the highway, because they no longer have to testify in court.

Both lawyers said they expect Klause to accept the joint submission.

Meechance and Wuttunee spent the hearing sitting quietly in the prisoner?s box, staring at the floor. Both declined to make statements, but a woman identifying herself as Meechance?s sister urged Klause to be lenient with his sentence.

?I believe in second chances,? she said from the back of the courtroom, tears streaming down her face. ?I do believe this is what these boys need.?

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« Reply #85 on: February 18, 2018, 08:57:44 PM »
Glad this is coming out sap.  Sad that Colten even ran around with them. He would be alive today had he not gone anywhere with them.  They are bad news,

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/colten-boushie-investigation-rcmp-1.4383816
RCMP clears itself of misconduct in Colten Boushie investigation
Family lawyer vows to appeal, says Mounties were wrong to surround family home
By Charles Hamilton, CBC News Posted: Nov 02, 2017 9:53 AM CT Last Updated: Nov 02, 2017 8:03

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But when seven officers went to Red Pheasant First Nation to inform his mother and siblings of his death, they surrounded and searched the family's trailer.
They were acting on a tip that a possibly armed man had fled the scene of Boushie's death to a trailer looking like that of his family, according to the RCMP.

In an Oct. 19 letter to the family, RCMP Supt. Mike Gibbs apologized for the officers' actions, conceding they "could have been perceived as insensitive." 
But, he went on, "given the safety risks involved," the approach "the RCMP had to take was tactical in nature and in this situation was acceptable."



 

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« Reply #86 on: February 18, 2018, 09:11:10 PM »
One familiar name in this incident from mid 90's. Murder of two farmers. Can't find any news articles, however a person known to them replied on a FB page that they served 19 years and the other 13 years, respectively. Nice to know it wasn't just 18 months.

https://www.producer.com/1994/11/murder-suspects-in-court/

SASKATOON (Staff) ? One of two men charged in the double slaying at a farmhouse in northwest Saskatchewan was scheduled to appear in a North Battleford court this week.

Colin Leonard Baptist, 23, was expected to appear in provincial court Nov. 2 at 9 a.m. Details of his appearance were not available at press time.

The other suspect, Ron Francis Coldwell, 22, is slated to appear in North Battleford provincial court Nov. 14.


Each is charged with two counts of first degree murder after two men were found shot to death in a farmhouse near Cando.


Dead are Gordon Tetarenko of Cando and Bryan Kipp of North Battleford.

RCMP reported they have the murder weapon, and said Tetarenko and Kipp died instantly from rifle shots. They were found in separate bedrooms of Tetarenko?s house. The pair were both bachelors and Kipp was visiting the small town.

The crimes were discovered on Oct. 16 when a relative of Tetarenko saw the dog lying dead in the yard.
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« Reply #87 on: February 18, 2018, 09:14:22 PM »
Oh my god, in cold blood = no less.

No wonder farmers are jittery.

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ps  I cannot locate anything as to their sentencing or trial.   Was it blacked out from the press?
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« Reply #88 on: February 18, 2018, 09:24:11 PM »
Yep, I am seeing the light at the end of the tunnel now. This makes a huge difference how my next political vote will be for sure.
CBC does not want to post both sides of the coin here either.

I would never ever feel safe driving across Sask and Manitoba. Several years ago Sask was beckoning to Albertans and others to come buy property there for cheap. I knew several medical people took advantage of the situation. To be honest, I think I would rather be living in the mid east.

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« Reply #89 on: February 18, 2018, 10:01:26 PM »
CBC is disappointing.  They are following Trudeau's mindset.  After all, they are paid by tax payers.
They know which side their bread is buttered on.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/gerald-stanley-court-charges-improperly-stored-guns-1.4538790

The legal troubles of Gerald Stanley, the Saskatchewan farmer acquitted in the shooting death of Colten Boushie, are slated to carry over into provincial court next month.
Stanley, 56, still faces two charges of improperly storing firearms on his Biggar, Sask.-area farm where Boushie was killed.
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