Thelma Krull - Missing July 11, 2015 -- Winnipeg MB

[jellybean]

On a facebook page, someone had the image of Thelma (taken from the cctv camera) enlarged.
Although it is blurry, it looks like Thelma has something over her shoulder - looks like a large handbag. Unless it is a shadow, and is a trick to the eye, but I don't think so.

There was no mention of her carrying anything by police in their description.
Is that something that they are holding back?

They have her phone and eyeglasses - where is the object that she had slung on her shoulder? (I had originally thought they were her hiking boots), but she was definately carrying something on her shoulder - as per the captured photo from the cctv.

If she was abducted, it would have been very swift and carried out by someone who had good strength, as Thelma was not a tiny woman.

To my mind, I think the victim and the perp knew each other. He knew where to find her and where she would be at that precise time.  He simply drove up and did it.  That is why no one saw anything nor heard anything (screams)  as she knew him. It was that fast.
 

jb

[jellybean]

Thelma left the house at 7:20 a.m - to take a hike around her usual park.
She was reported missing at 10:30 a.m.

Remarkably fast.... Gone 3 hours, not a full day, nor two days, just 3 hours.

Would be quite the thing, if other families did the same thing?  Or, is there a common sense reason for families to hold off - hoping that their loved one will have a change of heart and return home?

Perhaps Thelma was always on time - never late for anything and never for her grandsons birthday party - that raised early alarm bells?

Media said "reported missing", I assume the police were called.
If so, did the police cruise around the area to see if they could spot her?

Did her family also check her usual walking routes to look for her, before calling the police?
It is a bit frightening to think that this grandmother could just vanish into thin air.

No citizen reported seeing  her at the park,  therefore I wondered; perhaps she did not go to that particular area on that fateful morning, deciding to take another route.

 But on the other hand, her glasses and cell phone were located 4 days later in her usual park.

If the glasses and cell phone had been there for four long days, one would think it would have been found on day one, the day that she disappeared. Cell phones can be spotted on the ground. I cannot picture the cell phone lying there for four days.  I mean, it must have been visible, in order to be discovered in the first place!!


What happened to Thelma??
Such a mystery!!

jb

[capeheart]

I don't remember this case at all and possibly just thought this was solved. I also notice there is not a lot of activity on here of people posting from western Canada. This is very unusual that someone could just disappear just like that. If she was taken, it is kind of mind boggling, because she is not a tiny person, if someone was abducting her, it would have to be more then one person. If she had ear phones listening to music, she would be certainly not aware of things around her. Would she have been hit by a vehicle maybe, that way her glasses would come off. It kind of sounds like a very strange case to me. The cell phone being found. I know that is a way people are traced from the pings off their phone. I also think it is a strange remark by family members, that she may have been abducted. Of course, early in the morning sometimes there are homeless people around and they are looking for an easy mark, money is on their minds for drugs or whatever and they will stop at nothing to get this. Just because people look innocent driving bicycles, doesn't mean they are. This should be brought to the attention of the public once again, doing a story on W5 or the Fifth Estate and see if they get any more clues to what happened to Thelma. Obviously, she did not just disappear on her own, someone had a hand in it.

[jellybean]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/thelma-krull-missing-winnipeg-police-update-1.3801362

[jellybean]

Going on two years, and nothing on Selma.

jb

[jobo]

I just read an article that says they have legally declared Thelma dead.

I worry....what if she was kidnapped and is being held captive?
It has happened before, I think of the victim down east that managed to escape.

[jellybean]

Thelma worked at a Group Home.  I have often wondered if there was a conflict with a member of a family regarding their relative's care. 

Eg.  Was Thelma involved in having a client removed from the Group Home due to his/her behaviour?

Family can get very upset when this happens.  Especially for those clients that are difficult to place, and the family is forced to take them home to contend with them.

Any confrontation with a family member over such a scenario, would certainly cause Thelma distress.

Just a thought.  And I hope police will look into that possibility.

jb

[Sap1]

I would have to agree with you LongGone. The face in the drawing and the arm. I wonder if police have already looked at that angle, and if not, since it was your idea, why not give them a shout?

[D1]

Found deceased 50 km. from where last seen. Foul play suspected

[Sap1]

So sad for the family but at least they know now. Media must have been pressing for info on possible "gang" related activity to which police said they are not elaborating and are looking at many avenues.
The sketch shows a tough person indeed.   I believe they have more than they are letting on and will also have more interviews now.
This crime looks to be solvable, imo.

Vieo: sketch of possible perp @ 00:35

https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1176777

[jellybean]

Thanks DI and sap for the updates.  The sketch looks like he could be related to Thelma.

jb

[jellybean]

I really believe that she knew him. Since she appeared to be distressed, according to the witness, why did she not yell out? They were seen walking together crossing the street. She probably knew him, and did not want to make matters worse by doing so.  She did not realize that he would murder her.  Perhaps thought she could handle him.

The family obviously did not recognize the person via the sketch.  Am beginning to wonder if he had a relative who lived in the group home. I hope police are following up with group home where Thelma worked.

Is there a reserve close by where the body was found?



Just a theory of course.


jb

[Sap1]

She did work at a group home at one point so the perp could be an ex-client. Could be a low functioning person like the case we had in Camrose a few years back.