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Author Topic: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969  (Read 44427 times)

jensen

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #375 on: March 13, 2012, 03:29:52 AM »
HF it's all about the fashion!  Perhaps in the updating, a little colour could be photo-shopped in?

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #376 on: April 17, 2012, 02:08:00 PM »
A very special  Birthday today. Jackie would have been 58 today. All the love in the world to you, Jackie. We are not giving up!

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #377 on: July 23, 2012, 09:15:19 AM »
I have just found this site and wondered if Jeb would be interested in information I unwittingly discovered in 1970 and gave to the police. It made no sense to me at that time because I was not able to put the pieces together but the police certainly could. They came back to see me several times and I was able to tell them things I did not know was important.

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #378 on: July 23, 2012, 12:43:38 PM »
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I have just found this site and wondered if Jeb would be interested in information I unwittingly discovered in 1970 and gave to the police. It made no sense to me at that time because I was not able to put the pieces together but the police certainly could. They came back to see me several times and I was able to tell them things I did not know was important.
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Hi birdy.  You could certainly send Jeb, and Jackie's sister, Jesa a Private Message.  I am sure they would appreciate it.

Have faith

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #379 on: July 23, 2012, 01:02:16 PM »
Dear HF, I'm sorry but I have no idea how to reach them.

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #380 on: July 23, 2012, 01:39:37 PM »
Dear HF, I'm sorry but I have no idea how to reach them.

Hi birdy,

Both Jeb and Jesa are members here. To send either of them a private message: Find their name on the members list which can be viewed by clicking on 'Members' near the top right of the page. Click on the name of the member you wish to send a message to. That will open their profile. At the left side of the profile you will see 'Send PM'. Click on that and it will open to allow you to compose a message. When you are done composing simply click on send.

You can watch for a return reply by viewing your own messages at the top of the page. A number will appear beside the word 'Message' to correspond with how many messages you have.

Hope that helps,
Debbie

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #381 on: July 23, 2012, 10:41:37 PM »
Thank you so much for joining , Birdy!

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #382 on: July 27, 2012, 04:19:49 AM »
hi  please tell me glen fryer has finally been caught     he made my life hell as a young child.  my parents were involved with the Betty Harrison trail as witnesses   there isn't a day that has gone by that I keep hoping he finally got what he deserved

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #383 on: July 27, 2012, 09:31:56 AM »
I'm sorry to hear that Mitch1. No child should have to live through trauma.  As far as I know, he is living in the GTA .

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #384 on: July 27, 2012, 02:58:37 PM »
[quote author=mitch1 )
hi  please tell me glen fryer has finally been caught     he made my life hell as a young child.  my parents were involved with the Betty Harrison trail as witnesses   there isn't a day that has gone by that I keep hoping he finally got what he deserved
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Hi mitch1,

Sorry to hear that you suffered because of GF.  He has not been "caught" for anything.  Innocent as a lamb I guess.  Hopefully LE will one day revisit him.  The advancements in DNA technology warrant this IMO.

Thanks for posting Mitch1.

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« Last Edit: August 06, 2012, 08:46:14 AM by Have faith »

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #385 on: July 30, 2012, 10:15:00 PM »
Hmm... did someone edit out some posts in this thread? Seems to me earlier tonight there were 27 pages, now there are 26. Curious.

Anyway, after a longer-than-expected hiatus, I'm back to continue with more unpublished-or-better-quality images associated with Jackie's case from the London Free Press archives. Most of these have likely remained unseen for over four decades.

Moving forward from the search for Jackie and the aftermath, followed by the attack on Betty Harrison, we now focus on the trial of Glen Fryer in 1970.

Those who have been along the ride for this ever-growing thread may remember this was the first image I could find of Mr. Fryer in the LFP (reply #68, on page 5):



My first response on seeing this photo was how sinister and smirking he appeared, with beady eyes glaring from deep-set sockets, as he almost appears to do an arrogant, Trudeau-like jig for the camera. Higher-quality reproduction certainly allows much more to be gleaned from this image than it's microfiched and poorly printed cousin.

The published July 30, 1970 picture of Fryer as he entered his preliminary hearing is actually the third in a series of three. While I didn't get a copy of the first (and now I wish I had), the second shows that Fryer is not alone at the entrance, off Talbot Street (as the street sign is clearly visible behind them).  He is accompanied by his wife Ruth and an unidentified bailiff (I presume).





Glen is dressed in his green suit, that later became a point of contention at the trial: in December, he claimed he bought the suit in November, but the Crown reminded him that he was actually wearing it on this date back in July. Oops! Ruth Fryer looks younger and is dressed far more stylishly than what the later published photos on December 23rd/70 would have had one believe, where she appears much more matronly. At any rate, they seem to be walking at a brisk pace. Glen seems annoyed at the photographer, Ernie Lee, and Ruth seems shocked. The bailiff just wants to get to his coffee break. Perhaps there are more reporters and cameramen present than just Mr. Lee. It's possible they were calling out questions.

The third photo:



(Both above images reproduced courtesy of the London Free Press Collection of Photographic Negatives, the University of Western Ontario Archives, July 30, 1970. Thanks again.)


In this image, Ruth now seems to have recovered and become standoffish, and the bailiff is trying to usher them through the door (note his right hand). Glen is not doing a jig as it first seemed to me, but is actually stepping upward; the 'smirk' is actually an open mouth as he says something, which, along with the shrug now appears to be more of a "I don't know what you're doing here, guys, this isn't a big deal". Perhaps there is an attempt to turn on the charm for the reporters? Regardless, he felt he had to give some kind of response at that moment before entering. Contrast that with the rushing and stern expression in the previous photo, taken a second or two earlier. Much can be seen with the increased clarity of the eyes and facial expression.




Also interesting how Ruth is left completely out of the published picture.

Anyway, just goes to show how much is lost when working with terrible photocopies and scratched microfiche. Like any investigation, whether police detective, reporter, or those just searching for truth, the larger, brighter, and fuller a picture that can be found, the better.

« Last Edit: July 30, 2012, 10:56:39 PM by rkay »

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #386 on: July 30, 2012, 10:32:33 PM »
This was taken 42 years ago to the date. Thanks rkay for the upload & the description. This was the beginning of the end of his unknown existence .....life in privacy.

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #387 on: July 30, 2012, 10:41:35 PM »
I knew there was a reason that date sounded familiar!

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #388 on: July 31, 2012, 06:59:54 AM »
The other man has been edited out too. I wonder why they would do that seeing as it was likely more effort back then than now. I think they are standing on Carling Street with their backs to Talbot. That scene would now be the Bell  building and the ramp to underground parking and the little courtyard between that and the fed building. He is for sure about to go up a step but still looks like he's an arrogant "square". Mrs Fryers hair and dress are modern and up to date for 1970 (for a mom and woman of her age) but in the other pics from after the trial, she's gone back in time by ten years with a slight bouffant, Jackie Kennedy 'do and horrible ankle boots, frumpy old lady coat and standing by her man. I've heard from people on the London site he was a 'handsome man' but I don't see it... that's for sure.

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Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Reply #389 on: July 31, 2012, 07:59:41 PM »
If this case was published in a book, it would be labelled fiction with all its twists and turns.  I have been reading it over and over for several months now.  I moved to London in 1971 and worked with a woman who had been Glen Fryer's  secretary at CPRI - but at the time unfortunately, I didn't ask her more details.  But I do remember being rather nervous about going out alone in London because there had been many unsolved murders and rapes.  How does London's unsolved murder rates compare to other areas? 
I keep wondering how someone knew that Betty Harrison gave information to the police.  That seems rather important in view of the incidents that followed.

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