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Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2014, 12:46:07 PM »
Here is an article posted in February of this year. It is from the Telegram - so the police are still investigating/ jb

http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2014-02-07/article-3607609/Joshua-Miller-missing-for-one-year/1

Joshua Miller missing for one year

Josh Josh PennellPublished on February 07, 2014

The RNC reiterated its plea to the public today to bring forth any information they may have about the disappearance of Joshua Miller.
www.nlcrimestoppers.com.


josh.pennell@thetelegram.com





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Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2014, 10:23:19 AM »
It is a 17 min drive (approx.) from the bar to his friends area. Reports are that he jumped into a cab at the Sundance Bar - and another report is that his friend placed Josh by himself into a cab at the Sundance Bar.

Which is true?  Placed and jumped can make a big difference in the condition of Josh at the time.

Reports say that Josh jumped out of the cab near Stavanger Drive. This is where his friend lived.

Perhaps in the telling, there is something screwy right there.

If Josh had to be placed in a cab by someone, that usually means that Josh was not in very good "shape" - and if he jumped out of the cab - then he was not too bad off at the end of the 17 minute drive. REALLY? 

Is the  "assisting friend" one and the same who lives on Stavanger Drive?

Or, was there a different friend who lived on Stavanger Drive?

Was it ever firmly established by the police that the cab story is true?? If a fare was picked up, was it really Josh who was the passenger? How could Josh jump out of a cab when injured and drunk?

That area was searched with a fine toothed comb.  I say that Josh was not there. I think that if such a passenger existed, then it was not JOSH. And the first statement that Josh was placed in a cab is NOT TRUE.



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Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2014, 02:40:29 PM »
Joshua supposedly hopped the cab in the Stavanger Drive area, running into the woods leaving a fairly new iPhone in the back of the cab yet the cab driver did not report the incident right away. Now any decent person who seen a completely wasted young man run into the woods in the middle of winter wearing little clothing would report that to the police, let alone the fact that he never paid for the cab.
This does not make sense.
Joshua was also training for the police force, and spent years as a cadet officer, so hopping a cab and running into the woods would be completely out of character for him...drunk or not.

So, this person left an ipod in the backseat?  Could of dropped it accidentally when he jumped out of the cab.
Was it Josh's ipod?  Do you know?

If this cabby incident happened.  Then it is quite possible that someone from the bar hopped into the cab, gave an address, other than his own - but close enough to his - asked the driver to stop - jumped out of the cab, ran into the woods.
No cab driver in his right mind would chase him into there.   Then when the cab drove off - the guy walked home.
He stiffed the cab driver out of paying fare.  And - when the story came out - that it was Josh - this person did not step forward

I doubt if this was Josh.  By all accounts this young man worked - was putting himself through school - and as you say, he had plans on going into law enforcement. 

JB
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Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2014, 10:09:48 PM »
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2014-06-06/article-3754221/Clues-lead-to-new-search-for-Joshua-Miller/1Late Friday afternoon, the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary announced it will conduct a search this weekend around Mount Scio Road.

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Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2014, 04:45:34 PM »
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/rnc-say-nothing-found-in-latest-search-for-joshua-miller-1.2669232



RNC say nothing found in latest search for Joshua Miller

St. John's man last seen in February 2013

CBC News Posted: Jun 09, 2014 8:03 AM NT| Last Updated: Jun 09, 2014 5:58 PM NT

The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary says its latest search over the weekend for a missing St. John's man turned up nothing.

Const. Steve Curnew said a ground search team with more than 40 people did not find the body of Joshua Miller, despite weekend efforts that were concentrated in the heavily wooded area of Larkhall Street to Mount Scio Road on Saturday.

"We regret to say nothing was found during that search," Curnew said.

Police said on Friday that it had received new information in the case of the missing man who has not been seen since Feb. 10, 2013. He was 20 years old when he went missing.

"In this instance, they re-investigated, or re-spoke to someone close to Josh, provided information saying that he frequents this... general area, from time to time," Curnew said.

"It wasn't something that was searched originally, but this new information lead us to the ground search."

The square-kilometre search was supposed to have lasted through the weekend, but Curnew said it was concluded in one day.

Curnew said the RNC will continue its search.

"It's very rare to have a disappearance such as this without a trace," he said.

"It's still an active investigation, and we're still pleading for information."

Curnew said a tip line has now been established, and anyone with any information about Miller's whereabouts is asked to call: 709-729-8800.

Last seen

Miller was last seen by his friends during a night downtown when they put him in a cab.

A cab driver then last had contact with Miller after he got out of the taxi on Blue Puttees Drive, in the Stavanger Drive area, in the east end of St. John's.

Miller was said to have been wearing just a T-shirt and pants at the time.

Previous search efforts near Stavanger Drive and on the Southern Shore over the last 16 months have not provided any credible information about what happened to Miller or where he may be.
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Very rare to have such a disappearance without a trace, the police said.
 
Well yes it is- especially when experienced cops say so.   Perhaps there isn't a trace of Josh, because some people saw to it that there would not be.  I strongly suspect foul play here, in my opinion. The cops are  being given the run around, and I think they know it.  But - they have to check out leads right? Someone knows what happened to this young man - and they are remaining very quiet in my books.

I don't  think Josh is in the city at all!!  I think that there are a group of people who know exactly what happened to Josh and where he is.

It is all smoke and mirrors in my opinion for a big cover up.


Just my feelings on reading all of this. Nothing is really adding up, it is full of confusion and slight of hand.

JB
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Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2014, 01:17:50 PM »
I still believe that the police should be actively checking the records of the cabbie. What was his next call and did he report to his dispatch that he had dropped JM off or that he ran out of the cab. Did he report that to the dispatcher??? And what was the next call, in relation to the time that he supposedly dropped JM off. Because if JM did not pay for the cab, maybe another altercation took place between the cabbie and JM.  A bit of unanswered questions in all of this. The fact that nothing was ever found in relation to JM.  Hopefully they will get new leads with the tip line and maybe offer a reward. Prayers to the family and friends of this young man. :o :o :o

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Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2015, 06:20:10 PM »
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/joshua-miller-still-missing-2-years-later-friends-wonder-what-happened-1.2952050"It seems like our efforts have been futile. I mean, you try to keep these feelings of optimism that eventually something will come forward that will lead in the right direction," said Duke.

Duke said he and some other friends continue to look in areas that weren't officially searched by police, just in case they stumbled across something.
■6 months later, no trace of missing St. John's man
■Friends concerned for missing St. John's man

However, nothing's been discovered.

Harry Blackmore, with Rovers Search and Rescue, says he originally expected to find Joshua Miller within a couple of days, and it's unusual for someone to be missing this long in the specific area they were searching. (CBC)

Harry Blackmore, with Rovers Search and Rescue, said he figured crews would find Miller fairly easily, considering the region they were searching.

"We figured he might have got caught in a tree or something and broke his leg or whatever, but from the area we searched down there it's a massive, massive area and every bit of it was done like a fine-tooth comb, really, over two or three different times," said Blackmore.

"So where he could be gone is right now anybody's guess."

The main area searched is a fairly busy residential and retail area of the metro St. John's area, and Blackmore said for a missing person to go undiscovered for this long is unusual.


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Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2015, 10:58:28 AM »
It is a 17 min drive (approx.) from the bar to his friends area. Reports are that he jumped into a cab at the Sundance Bar - and another report is that his friend placed Josh by himself into a cab at the Sundance Bar.

Which is true?  Placed and jumped can make a big difference in the condition of Josh at the time.

Reports say that Josh jumped out of the cab near Stavanger Drive. This is where his friend lived.

Perhaps in the telling, there is something screwy right there.

If Josh had to be placed in a cab by someone, that usually means that Josh was not in very good "shape" - and if he jumped out of the cab - then he was not too bad off at the end of the 17 minute drive. REALLY? 

Is the  "assisting friend" one and the same who lives on Stavanger Drive?

Or, was there a different friend who lived on Stavanger Drive?

Was it ever firmly established by the police that the cab story is true?? If a fare was picked up, was it really Josh who was the passenger? How could Josh jump out of a cab when injured and drunk?

That area was searched with a fine toothed comb.  I say that Josh was not there. I think that if such a passenger existed, then it was not JOSH. And the first statement that Josh was placed in a cab is NOT TRUE





You've made some very valid points here.  There are alot of inconsistentcies in the telling of Josh's story.
If Joshua was in such bad shape from a bar fight,  why didn't his "friends" escort him home? Or to the Stavanger drive area?
It is very likely he wasn't put into a cab. 
Foul play is looking like more of an option here. Stavanger Drive has been picked apart by not only the police force but his family and friends desperately seeking answers. If he was anywhere in that area, something would have been found. 

Also, why was the search taken from the Stavanger drive area to a remote area in Mobile NL?  Way to many unanswered questions.

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Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2015, 12:09:24 PM »
Has hypnosis been suggested for all the people who had been drinking together that night? Memory can really be impaired after an evening of drinking and often what they saw or think they saw happen isn't what happened at all. With a fight happening and time moving fast afterwards ...

Recently I heard of an exam done for a group of people going into investigative work. They were stone sober, and a 'villain' was brought into the room for a brief period and then taken out. The group then had to describe this villain. None of them saw the same thing and all did miserably.

I would suggest hypnosis and if anyone doesn't want to go through with it, I'd have to wonder why. 

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Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2015, 05:36:30 AM »
Any new updates from this case?

Can't seem to find anything. Also noticed the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary doesn't even have Joshua even listed as a missing person on their website.

How are the  the public supposed to help find this man when they are not being made aware that he is still missing?   ???

Hopefully new leads arise in this case soon.

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Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2015, 10:11:16 AM »
I haven't been able to find any recent updates on this case either kMiller.

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Joshua is still missing.