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Terry Arnold- the victim list-
« on: June 28, 2012, 07:27:09 PM »

http://www.mindytran.com/Arnold%20news%20stories.htm
http://www.rickstoppel.com/Dloads/Police.pdfhttp://www.rickstoppel.com/Dloads/Warrant.pdf.
   Witness stories-
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=114.msg59173#msg59173
   Kelly's Last Chance.pdf attached to bottom of page-
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=53.msg60183#msg60183http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?board=84.0
   Internet collection-
http://mindytran.com/arnoldscrimes.htm
http://mindytran.com/Arnold%20news%20stories.htm

It may take all of these families working together to find a way for any of them to receive any sort of justice. There are at least two victims still unaccounted for. If anyone were able to ask Barb Stoppel or Kelly Cook if they wanted information from their murders to be used to help find and retrieve little Joanne Peterson, I have no doubt what their answer would be. 
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Re: Terry Arnold- the victim list-
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012, 07:35:09 PM »
Terry Arnold's known and suspected victims -

April 1981http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=53.0
#2) http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=2167.0

Dec 1981- http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=114.0
#2) http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=3056.0


Nov 1983http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=69.0
#2) http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=69.msg34567#msg34567

1987http://mindytran.com/Arnold%20news%20stories.htm

1988- Roberta Fergusson 16 met her fate while hitchhiking back from a weekend camping trip. Arnold lived right across from where she was last seen. He had borrowed the neighbours car that afternoon. That car matched the description of the one Roberta was last seen getting into. The Police investigated and harrassed  everyone in the vicinity with a similar vehicle but somehow missed Arnold and the car was eventually sent to the wreckers before anyone could do any testing. A body was found in the vicinity a year or so later but In another rare instance the female body was mistakenly identified as male at first delaying any proper investigation into missing females. Eventually she was reidentified as female but the RCMP still claim she is not Rebecca.
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=56.0

1989 ?
Christine Browne was only 16 years old when she was raped and murdered by Arnold her body dumped in a remote location near Chilliwack. Arnold admitted to that murder to an undercover RCMP agent and was tried and convicted. In a very unusual move, despite the confession and conviction the Crown later stayed the charge and released him again in stead of having a retrial over the minor legal infraction caused by the Crown.
http://mindytran.com/Arnold%20news%20stories.htm

Arnold was reported and investigated for many more sexual assaults over the next few years culminating in the rapes of three young girls in Newfoundland the youngest only 10 years old.

The FBI claim Arnold may be responsible for as many as a dozen murdered women in the U.S. Yet in a very strange and unusual move for the US, they give no further details and no victims names have been released. The US Police never mention him, the US media never speaks of him, a Canadian serial killer freely roaming the US murdering women with impunity is a very rare animal.

One of the known anomalies in regard to Terry Arnold was that he was a Police informant. This has been demonstrated to be a source of Police obstruction for others in the past.

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In addition to the three jailhouse informants called in the case, police had offers from nine other jailhouse informants, including Terry Arnold, who is currently the prime suspect in the killing, to testify against Sophonow.  In the end, one of the three called, Thomas Cheng, had twenty-six counts of fraud withdrawn.    After testifying at the first and second trials, he was released and never seen again.  The Crown read in his evidence at the third trial.
from- http://www.mindytran.com/americanbarassociation.htm
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Re: Terry Arnold- the victim list-
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2012, 09:00:42 PM »
Congrats on taking a look JB. Barb Stoppel provides some of the bests insights into what went wrong with all the investigations into Terry Arnold. If this were but Arnold's one and only victim and there were no others to compare to or recognize a pattern, the Police and Crown's excuses sound pretty legit. But by the time you get up to 2002 or so and hear the Police excuses then, well it's pretty hard to fathom or to reconcile. Everything said by everyone along the trail, both Crown and Cop becomes more than suspect. There would be many years and many more victims to come before that though. Barb, bless her, showed us what to look for, what to expect, and gave us a name.
 
added- I keep recalling how upon the death of Barb's mother those many years later, they found tucked away in the corner of her dresser a little scrap of paper bearing the hand written name "Terry Arnold". Barb's mother had remembered and saved that name from her encounter with Arnold in the hospital all those years earlier and took that name with her to her grave.
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Re: Terry Arnold- the victim list-
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2012, 07:58:02 PM »
Congrats on taking a look JB. Barb Stoppel provides some of the bests insights into what went wrong with all the investigations into Terry Arnold. If this were but Arnold's one and only victim and there were no others to compare to or recognize a pattern, the Police and Crown's excuses sound pretty legit. But by the time you get up to 2002 or so and hear the Police excuses then, well it's pretty hard to fathom or to reconcile. Everything said by everyone along the trail, both Crown and Cop becomes more than suspect. There would be many years and many more victims to come before that though. Barb, bless her, showed us what to look for, what to expect, and gave us a name.
 
added- I keep recalling how upon the death of Barb's mother those many years later, they found tucked away in the corner of her dresser a little scrap of paper bearing the hand written name "Terry Arnold". Barb's mother had remembered and saved that name from her encounter with Arnold in the hospital all those years earlier and took that name with her to her grave.

How tragic!! Where is Terry Arnold now? --He was a snitch for police? What would he snitch about - did he have a specialty an in on say -- robberies or other such crimes do you know?  Also, how old would he have been when the little girl from Standard was murdered?
These background questions would be helpful if you have the information D1.  These questions are rather odd, I know, and you many not have the answers. One really can't expect you to have them - but am asking on a long shot.

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2012, 10:14:32 PM »
Generally speaking I just find whatever information is available by looking through all the numerous articles left behind from all the different cases. Arnold never said much about his informant activities so I don't have much personal information to add on that but I do have a few articles and a few past events to point out.

It was the Barb Stoppel inquiry that said Arnold was offering to provide information to implicate Thomas Sophonow and offered to testify. In the news articles left by the joint Calgary Vancouver news investigation, they claimed Arnold offered his services and tips to the Police on everything and anything everywhere he went right across the country. That denotes a federal informant designation not just a local or provincial.

As shown in JB's post above on Barb Stoppels investigation, it is a bit of a stretch to try and understand why he was not investigated even back then at such an early stage. He had not yet had time to be developed as an informant of any value other than in the juvy center so what else could be in play? Obviously he should have been investgated for Barb Stoppel's murder. Anyone who has ever looked at the evidence always asks why not? It doesn't make sense and seems incredulous he wasn't.

For that answer I again look through the articles going even further back and get a glimpse of Terry Arnold's childhood where you find references to him being suspected of even killing his own brother. He apparently spent most of his juvenile years in a juvenile detention center in Winnipeg. His own grandfather says he should never have been released. So when I first heard of the name Geraldine Settee I sat up and took notice. A juvenile apparently known to the Police had apparently murdered a little girl and the investigation was called off for unknown reasons.
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=2193.0

This is the root of what earned Terry Arnold his get out of jail free pass. Arnold was here around the same place near same time likely involved with the same people who obstructed Jeraldine Settee. There is a cop lurking behind the scenes here going at least as far back as this who is to blame for what happened next. Arnold was never investigated for Barb Stoppel nor most any others, suspiciously by passing that which almost no one else could. Someone knew how to pull strings for Arnold and used him for some unknown purpose. IMO Terry Arnold became someone's study case maybe for some behavioural profiling department or something along that line. He has never been looked at from that angle and likely never will. Keep that thought in the back of your mind though as you work through the rest of his crimes.

In the end, the Calgary City Police showed up in Victoria late 2006 ? ish supposedly to collect blood for a dna test. Arnold was reportedly found dead a couple of days later of a suspected overdose. No one has seen the body. Arnold supposedly left a suicide note but the Police will not show anyone, not even Arnold's own father.

Arnold would have only been around 18 years old near the time of Kelly Cook's murder. A very unusual 18 years old mind you, seasoned by years of incarceration with the worst there were. Winnipeg reports from Barb Stoppel's murder investigation contained statements from both cops and witnesses who claimed Arnold looked and seemed much older.

Will add a few links to the above later but the information is located somewhere in the main links above. 
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2017, 04:12:46 PM »
I am quoting this from the Barb Stoppel thread
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Retired police officer writing new book about Thomas Sophonow's wrongful conviction
'It will still be with me forever': Thomas Sophonow
By Alana Cole, CBC News Posted: Oct 12, 2016

Video at Link:

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Nearly 35 years after 16-year-old Barbara Stoppel was strangled in a Winnipeg doughnut shop, a former detective sergeant involved in the case feels his work still isn't done.

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Barbara Stoppel (CP photo / Winnipeg Free Press)

Andrew Mikolajewski retired in 2014, after 28 years with the Winnipeg police force. Now, he's writing a book about the case in an effort to reveal insight into the investigation of Stoppel's death, what led to the wrongful conviction of Thomas Sophonow and how other wrongful convictions can happen.

"In essence it explains the necessary ingredients for Tom's wrongful conviction, the consequences of inaction and the challenge for the Winnipeg police service to be accountable," said Mikolajewski.

Stoppel worked at the Ideal Donut Shop in St.Boniface. She was strangled in the woman's washroom on December 23, 1981 and died in hospital days later. Sophonow had been in Winnipeg to visit his young daughter at the time. Police announced Sophonow had been arrested and charged with murder on March 12,1982. He spent nearly four years in jail and went through three trials before he was acquitted on Dec. 12, 1985.

Mikolajewski was one of the people assigned to take another look at the homicide case in 1999, more than a decade after Sophonow had been acquitted of second degree murder.

His work helped lead the way to Sophonow's exoneration in 2000, and identified Terry Arnold as a new prime suspect in the case. Arnold was found dead of an apparent suicide in Victoria, B.C. in 2005. In a note, he denied killing anyone.

Mikolajewski isn't ready to disclose details about what he's writing, but said he hopes it will help people understand the truth about what happened during the course of the Stoppel investigation and bring closure to the families affected.

A lecture he received by an inspector in charge of the homicide division during a recruit class in 1986 is one of the things that has kept him motivated.

"He let us know that the most important person in a homicide case is the victim and that we look after the victim's interest," said Mikolajewski. "As far as I'm concerned, that wasn't done and now at this time I feel like I can do it."


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Re: Terry Arnold- the victim list-
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2018, 10:43:05 AM »
Here is another of Terry Arnold's sexual assault victims. Doreena Green of Chilliwack reported this crime to police. She talks in this video about guns, knives and a switchblade.

http://aptnnews.ca/2018/07/04/exclusive-thirty-years-later-survivor-details-encounter-with-serial-killer-terry-arnold/

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Doreena Green came face-to-face with a serial killer – and lived to talk about it.

In this exclusive interview, she provides first-hand details about what happened to her 30 years ago and how that experience changed her life.

A warning – the details may be disturbing for some viewers.

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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2018, 11:07:27 AM »
Here's the link to the retired Winnipeg police detective sergeant's website about Barbara Stoppel:

https://barbstoppel.com/"stoppel"-the-book