Author Topic: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec  (Read 66625 times)

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #60 on: June 02, 2012, 07:42:11 AM »
Anastashia thinking along the same lines.  I am kind of waiting to here more about this killers family.  In on article his ex said he wanted to kill his family?  I wonder about that?  I will bet he comes from a family of more than two kids three at the least and he is second born and felt he didnt get all the attention he deserved a real sicko.  I also think he will surface as a female this time. JMO

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #61 on: June 02, 2012, 09:18:36 AM »
The little paper in one of his home towns is getting the family background information on "Magnotta" out now that the bigger news sources do not have:

http://www.thepost.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3576064

Speaking of arson, there was a 14 year old boy somehow connected to the family who set fire to their house more recently according to that article above, so I wonder if it is a younger half-sibling of Magnotta's and another budding psychopath that the family has produced??

I also saw a reference in the Xtra gay publication to his having told Nina Arsenault (his former transexual lover when he was 18) that he had had a sexual relationship with his mother who is mentally ill.

I'm skeptical that Luka Magnotta could easily pass as a woman. Although he is short at five foot eight, he has large hands and a normally deep male voice and there's no evidence of him having passed for a woman before. He may have feminine features  but he appears to have a lean, muscular build and chest. I think dressing as a woman might actually make him more conspicious if he attempts it.
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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #62 on: June 02, 2012, 11:39:16 AM »
I have mixed feelings about him appearing as a woman but I do not doubt he has dramatically changed his appearance. He's a "pretty boy" but put some scruff on him and dress him like a cowboy and he would look completely different.

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #63 on: June 02, 2012, 12:25:29 PM »
I am starting a new thread because the name of the last thread is no longer up to date and I want to encourage people who have information about these crimes and the victim/killer to be able to find this thread and to participate.

From Wikipedia:

Luka Rocco Magnotta, born as Eric Clinton Newman but also known as Vladimir Romanov or Mattia Del Santo, (born July 24, 1982 in Scarborough, Ontario)is a Canadian male model and pornographic actor. On May 30, 2012, Montreal police issued a Canada-wide warrant, later upgraded to an international warrant, for Magnotta's arrest, identifying him as a suspect in the murder of Lin Jun, a 33-year-old Chinese man who had been reported as missing by his family on May 24, 2012. Lin, originally from Wuhan, was an international student at Concordia University. Parts of Lin's dismembered body were found at three locations in Montreal and Ottawa.

-- from Wikipedia

Anyone wanting to get a good idea of who to look for even if disguised should view this interview with Magnotta, noting voice, laugh, mannerisms, raising of the eyebrow etc:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tsn9jrQb70
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Coincidentally Luka Magnotta (born 1982) and serial killer Paul Bernardo (born 1964) were both born in Scarborough. They two bear a striking resemblance to one another in their facial features although Magnotta has had some facial surgery. There are unsubstantiated reports that people have contacted the media indicating that Magnotta's mother Anna Yourkin (what is her maiden name?) knew Paul Bernardo. (see http://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/2012/06/01/warmington-one-big-ripper-game) Anna Yourkin reportedly gave birth to Magnotta in Scarborough while she was still a teenager. Paul Bernardo was reportedly single and sexually active in the timeframe leading up to Magnotta's birth when he would have been 17 years old. Is it possible Bernardo was Magnotta's father although Magnotta's real father is reported to be Donald Newman (also a teen at the time)? There is however, a significant height difference between the two men with Bernardo over six feet tall and Magnotta a mere five foot eight.

To complicate matters, Paul Bernardo's biological father's name has never been released, has it? His mother reportedly had an affair while married, resulting in his birth. Is it possible that the lineage was passed on, not through Bernardo directly, but via his unidentified biological father in Scarborough through to Magnotta's father's (Newman) or mother's family somehow also from Scarborough?

As unlikely as these theories may sound, they are no crazier than half of the stuff reported on the case by the media so far based on internet rumour and conjecture. Let's not forget that psychopathic killers do pass on their genes as we have seen recently in the murder of Kimberly Proctor by a teenage boy who is the son of a convicted rapist/murderer.

Now google several pictures of Bernardo and Magnotta and tell me if you see the resemblance? Remember, you read it here first!
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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #64 on: June 02, 2012, 01:20:01 PM »
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To complicate matters, Paul Bernardo's biological father's name has never been released, has it? His mother reportedly had an affair while married, resulting in his birth. Is it possible that the lineage was passed on, not through Bernardo directly, but via his unidentified biological father in Scarborough through to Magnotta's father's (Newman) or mother's family somehow also from Scarborough?

I thought he found out his biological father's last name was "Teale".  Wasn't that why he changed it to Teale?

I could be wrong...  could have my Scarborough murderers mixed up.   :-\

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #65 on: June 02, 2012, 03:00:42 PM »
According to one source --

"They (Bernardo and Homolka) chose the name Teale after the serial killer Martin Thiel in the movie 'Criminal Law'. Paul chose Jason for his new middle name, from the character in the 'Friday the 13th' movies. Their request for change was approved on Feb. 12, 1993, five days before he was arrested."

I'm surprised there haven't been any sightings of Magnotta yet (at least on airplane, airport etc.), with all this news coverage.

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #66 on: June 02, 2012, 03:18:36 PM »
I think he did his traveling to where ever before the body parts were delivered, and is sitting quiet and watching on the internet where ever he is. 

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #67 on: June 02, 2012, 03:43:00 PM »
I spoke too soon, seems he may have been sighted in Paris. eyeswideopen, I don't think travellers can easily go in hiding completely as they need to get out to eat and they also need to be seen by landlords every time they move around in order to rent their room/lodgings.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Luka+Rocca+Magnotta+manhunt+continues+Paris/6720460/story.html

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #68 on: June 02, 2012, 03:44:52 PM »
My intuition still is agreeing with eyeswideopen... he was where he needed to be just before the package was delivered

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #69 on: June 02, 2012, 04:41:03 PM »
Sure he needs to by groceries and rent living quarters but if he is disguised they wont know it is him.  In my opinion he is generic looking and can make him self look any way he wants.  He may be smart , but he will get tired and make a mistake.  He would stand out in a foreign county is my though while in Canada he could make him self fit anywhere.  There are always lots of sightings of Missing or wanted people but that doesnt mean it is him.  Do you have a link to where it says he was sited in Paris????? Thanks.

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #70 on: June 02, 2012, 05:20:01 PM »
The article seems to just have a lot of people denying anything. Serial killers are above average intellegence. Its not stupidity that gets them caught.. its arrogance. He isnt arrogant YET. He would have something like a bunker set up so he doesnt have to leave for a month or two - enough time that he could grow out hair/facial hair and his face wont be plastered all over the news.

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #71 on: June 03, 2012, 01:07:52 AM »
The article seems to just have a lot of people denying anything. Serial killers are above average intellegence. Its not stupidity that gets them caught.. its arrogance. He isnt arrogant YET. He would have something like a bunker set up so he doesnt have to leave for a month or two - enough time that he could grow out hair/facial hair and his face wont be plastered all over the news.

I dunno, it seems pretty arrogant to go mailing body parts to political parties, doesn't it?

He would have had even more time to do all of the things you mentioned had he not tried to garner attention. And in most places of the populated world, someone digging a bunker would certainly attract attention. And he doesn't strike me as the blue collar type.

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #72 on: June 03, 2012, 02:38:46 AM »
you know what's weird...I recognize this face from somewhere and I live in Manitoba, but not from lately from some other time, place, or photo...Oh and I don't watch porn so that's not it.  This is one sick boy...this is the time when we can all appreciate our officers who risk their lives everyday for our safety.  I am confident they will find him and though our justice system kinda stinks hopefully he will be put away for a long long time.   :o

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #73 on: June 03, 2012, 08:28:54 AM »
Kat the first time I saw his face my though was a younger version , just in the face , of boy george the singer. JMO

I agree Nish that he has already showed arrogance in mailing using our Canada Post system to mail the parts to political offices. 

I give a week , two at the most before he is caught.  And my belief is that it will be right in Canada somewhere.

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Re: Jun Lin - 33 - Murdered - May 2012 - Montreal, Quebec
« Reply #74 on: June 03, 2012, 08:35:29 AM »
I'm in the UK right now and hearing (unconfirmed) reports that he is indeed in France.

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