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capeheart

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ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« on: March 14, 2012, 06:04:03 PM »
I just want to state about how many people have been missing on cruise ships as we know of since 1995. There are 165 mysterious disappearances of people on cruise ships since 1995. Some have been thought to be suicides, but others are totally a mystery. There is a site which has some people's names and the circumstances of how they went missing. There are also lots of rapes and assaults on the ships. And in most cases when someone has gone missing, the cruise line is not helpful. Their actions are certainly not with concern. After reading some of the episodes, I would never take an ocean cruise for a number of days. I would take a day cruise or something, but no way would I go on an ocean cruise. :( :( :( :( :( :(

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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 06:23:31 PM »
That is a large number but not in comparison to the hundreds of thousands who go cruising yearly.
People need to exercise caution when dealing with strangers on these cruises. The friendly man at the bar, with the friendly flashing smile may not be such a nice man, or the couple that is befriending another couple may have ulterior motives. It's always nice to make new friends but people need to be cautious as well. Keep the friendship on deck, among many others. I wonder if there are persons watching the casinos as one leaves ... don't leave a casino alone. Someone might think just b/c one goes to the casino that one has a lot of money on them.
I would stick with the crowds and not go off alone and especially not late at night. If I haven't called for room service, I would not answer a knock on the door late at night either.
Next winter I'm attending a wedding in Jamaica and there will be a large number of us flying together and staying in the same resort for however long we want to make it. After the wedding I will try and incorporate (if there is the possibility) a cruise that will allow me stops in Aruba and Curacao among others. I think I may carry a nicely gift-wrapped brick and some spray just in case. :)   

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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 06:43:15 PM »
SAP, you wouldn't be going on this cruise alone, would you???? They tell me Jamica is beautiful, lot of new resorts. But there is a lot of crime there also. You have to be cautious, they'd kill you for 1.00. We cannot go in fear all the time, but a lot of crime out there. There are people just watching for unaware tourists to rob. And if one is travelling alone, they know it in a heartbeat. And also, these people that are working on these ships, they have access to your room, they have keys. It is scary. Some of these people have records. Usually there is at least 1000 employees to take care of everyone on the ship, depending on the amount of  vacationers. It doesn't ring my chimes at all. Late night parties wouldn't be too in my book. I do like to party, but I'd be darned sure there were four to six people with me that I knew. :o :o :o

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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 07:40:50 PM »
Cape, in the Jamaica resort there will be well over 100 of us who will know each other. If I find a cruise from there, I will probably be alone. There are so many little gadgets one can take along. There are alarms that can be hung on a doorknob and if anyone turns the knob, there is instant alarm. There are others as well that can be affixed to the door and frame and soon as someone opens the door the alarm goes off. I think anyone wanting in would take off b/c the alarm is very piercing and would wake the dead.
Some friends of a co-worker of mine were in Mexico at a 5 star resort. They thoroughly enjoyed the friendly staff and had a great time. When they got back to Canada and had their pictures developed they were ready to barf. At a time when they were probably out eating, the maids were in the room doing what they do, but found their camera and one of the maids took a picture of the other one, using the couple's toothbrushes on parts down under. That could happen anywhere. I will always carry disposable toothbrushes ... one use and gone in the garbage.

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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 08:02:46 PM »
OMG, isn't that awful. And to think maybe that is going on a lot. These people should have mailed the pictures back to that hotel to the Manager. They also should have notifed the tourist bureau, absolutely. They wouldn't want these people working in their resort. Yes, always keep your toothbrush in your purse. And who knows what goes on in any place where you stay, it is darned well crazy these days. Take something to protect yourself if you do go on a cruise alone. Like I say, they can always tell when you are alone, very quickly. :o :o :o
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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 08:31:49 PM »
I've been on three cruises, all Princess ships.  I have been either with my husband or with other female friends.  I have walked around on the ship by myself at midnight and never felt anything but safe.  Maybe I am naive because I was not worried, but there have always been lots of people around, even at that hour.  All the staff are friendly and polite but I have never felt threatened by any of them.  Most of them value their job too much to jeopardize it, I think. 

Is there a list of the people missing and the name of the cruise line and ship that they were sailing on?  I am wondering if there is any kind of trend. 

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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 09:06:51 AM »
There are so many cruise ships leaving from different places that it would be hard to pinpoint any particular area. I mean there are people that have gone on a cruise from England and Australia that have gone missing. So when we live in our own little world here in Canada, we don't hear about other people who went missing on cruise ships in other areas of the world. And you could be on a cruise ship and a crime has taken place and you would never know it. If there are 3000 people on the ship, how would you know if someone was raped or assaulted. You would never know, because that would be hush, hush information they would not want you to know. A lot of people will may be more cautious after hearing things that happen in resorts and on cruise ships. Enjoy your vacations all of you, but be cautious and when drinking in bars and going to your cabin, make sure you have a friend with you. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2012, 01:04:39 PM »
My wife knows she'll never get me aboard one of those things. Thankfully she's not bothered by it at all.

I do a "cruise" of sorts every month or so and have seen how fast a case of Norwalk can take down an entire crew and make life not worth living on board. I also know how much we practice our drills for fire, man overboard, medical issues, etc...and it's an all for one thing. The crews on board these vessels might be very well trained but when you toss thousands of possibly drunk vacation goers into the mix who think that boat ain't never gonna sink...well...it scares me. Then again, this might be a case of being a little over educated on the matter.

I know this is off track, but when I saw all that crap about the Costa Concordia I reaffirmed why Norwegian, Princess, et al, will never get a red cent out of me. I am far from a seasoned mariner but I do know right from wrong at sea and I do know how long it takes to muster 100 people during a drill, let along if the thing's going up in flames or sinking.

And those who have paid attention to my posts know that I don't get frightened off of things very easily. Heck, I still hate the chopper ride to work but that wouldn't stop me from a pleasure flight, y'know? Life offshore whilst paying someone else for the pleasure? Nope. I dunno, these cases evoke a lot of different feelings in me.

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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 03:39:46 PM »
Sap a good thing to carry with is a trial size thing of hair spray.  I made my girls carry one when they were younger, and they do to this day.  Hair spray is not illegal and if you spray it in some ones eyes it sort term blinds them giveing you a chance to get away.  You can by trial size in most drug store.  Areosol is better if you can find it.  I know it saved my youngest daughter once when she mas being mugged.  It was a cop that told me about hair spray many years ago.  If I am uncomfortable and walking alone at night I keep one in my hand for safety.  JMO

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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 03:59:07 PM »
I'm told bearspray is the ultimate. I was thinking also of Spam spray ... the cooking spray. Has the same ingredients as hairspray but the oil added will leave a real blur on the perps eye sight. Although if he happens to inhale at the same time, could become detrimental to his health.
I doubt I will cruise from Jamaica after flying there. I may be able to make a deal, or get a good deal on a flight to Aruba/Curacao through the travel agency as it isn't a big city agency and this wedding party crew will have boosted their business a lot so it's possible they may have some other good deals.  My younger dtr is taking a side trip to Honduras after the wedding, so perhaps we can do something together and get a deal.
I'm not sure I could stand being on a cruise over the water. I have no problems on smaller water craft but I have had a bad case of vertigo in the past and that is my only fear at present.

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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 04:12:59 PM »
I am sorry, but I can't help but chuckle about what you guys are packing to hurt the "perps".  I just get a mental picture of what is in your purses....everything but the kitchen sink to hurt/stop someone.   I'm exaggerating I know.   ;)

I did tell one of my kids to go get bear spray when she became afraid of her renter, I don't think it would be illegal. 

That is sick what those maids did, but thanks for the heads up, that is one thing I never thought of while staying in motels...why would I?....I don't think I am that demented that is why...lol

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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 11:01:58 PM »
sap lolol sorry but I am invisioning you walking around on the cruise with a can of bear spray or pam lolol Honest I think it would look quite natural is a woman had one of the mini or sample size things of hair spray hiden in her hand, but bear spray lolol I think it only comes in a big can.  lolol sorry it gave me a chuckle lol

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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2012, 01:03:37 AM »
Funny, my fear is of smaller craft vice bigger ones. No issues with my cousin's fishing boats, but I was not all that keen aboard a birdwatching boat off of Seal Island a couple of years back when we made a turn in a decent chop. The hangover I was battling might have had something to do with it ;) Thankfully Mrs. Nish kept my mind occupied while I rubbed her hand as she yakked over the side ;D

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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2012, 08:12:46 AM »
sap lolol sorry but I am invisioning you walking around on the cruise with a can of bear spray or pam lolol Honest I think it would look quite natural is a woman had one of the mini or sample size things of hair spray hiden in her hand, but bear spray lolol I think it only comes in a big can.  lolol sorry it gave me a chuckle lol

I have a large purse ... anything could fit in there. ;) Along with my gift wrapped brick, needles etc. Lol. I think I will rather fly.

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Re: ABOUT CRUISE SHIPS AND MISSING PEOPLE 2012
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2012, 11:10:19 AM »
I have a fear of cruise ships as well.  I have been on the Newfoundland ferry several times and quite enjoyed that. I also was on the CAT, the fast boat to Nfld.  I was not afraid on those, because you go across and you're there in one day. But cruising for many days, I would not feel safe with 4 or 5000 people on one boat. I keep thinking, if something went wrong, how would they get us all off. And low and behold that did happen a short time ago. Lucky for some of those people that they could swim. No cruise for me. 

And one big thing about if someone  attacks, practice your screams, make sure they are good one's. A lot of people don't scream and kick enough. Wack him in the eye a good one, go for the eyes with your fingernails, that should give you some time. Also a small spray bottle that you can make up yourself of pepper spray. Put the hottest sauce you can buy and some water and pepper flakes and that'll do the trick.  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

 

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