Hilal Aliyar,missing person in Alberta...

[jellybean]

Namsheed:  Did you ever stop think that he does not want to be found?  He has left recent traces of his existence, so he is probably alive. Did you ever stop to  think that he may even  be avoiding immigration authorities?

[debbiec]

With everything that you've found on Hilal it appears that he is ok. Is there some reason why he may not want to be found?

JB, I had wondered the same thing. namsheed answered fairly extensively in reply #27. 

[jellybean]

Thanks, I read it.  Such a shame. Some kids are like that. The difference is the distance, the language barrier, and not knowing our country and it's culture.  Yes, I can see as a parent, should I be placed in that position, the desperation that I would feel regarding my son's well being.  The thing that concerns me, and raises alarm bells is his phantom presence even on social networks.  Example  the picture of him on one of them which you located for Namsheed, he had his head down.  It was not full faced.  I don't know, but he is avoiding something. If he were my son, I would certainly wonder as well.
Sorry, but I am wondering if his visa ran out, and he wants to stay, and doesn't know what to do.
Not knowing the East Indian culture, I am wondering why he isn't calling home? Perhaps he is ashamed in that he does not have a good paying job, a new car etc, as perhaps his family imagined.
One suggestion that I have, and the only one that I can think of, is to contact an East Indian organization in Toronto, and perhaps they can locate him and talk to him. There must a main one in Toronto, and Namsheed can use her own language in speaking to them and better explain.  Also, perhaps they may be able to give her further advice as to where to go from there.  You are doing a great job for Namsheed too, however the more resources she can access, the greater her chances of locating him.

JB

[jobo]

The very first post says his passport expired in 2007. 

[jellybean]

http://www.indiacanada.org/ica/index.html

Here is India Canada Association web site.   Perhaps they can help her as well.
Check out Other Associations on this website, as they list them with phone numbers and their own websites.


JB

[Mom]

There is also the Consulate General of India in Toronto - http://www.cgitoronto.ca/

The High Commission of Canada to India - http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/india-inde/index.aspx?view=d

And, the Canadian Embassy in India:

SCO# 54-56, Sector 17 A
Chandigarh 160 017, India

Telephone: 91 (172) 505-0300
Fax: 91 (172) 505-0320
E-mail: CHADG-G@international.gc.ca

[jellybean]

I thought of giving her the same thing.  We will see what she does with it. I went with Associations, as his passport expired in 2007, and he may not have citizenship.
Let's hope she contacts them. One would think that in India, they would know about the Consulate etc.
JB

[namsheed]

dear friends..thanks for ur posts...i did see him logged on in a certain site today too..he is updating it all days . i did find out his address , thus did i visit also his living place,by the help of Google-earth,and knew as to who all are his friends...And unfortunately,Yet i couldn't be known with his present life well..,on the way,i don't know what is the reason why the first one of his friends removed me from friend list,when asked about him.i confess myself that may be,either it is because of the fault in my way of talking,or probably something with regards to him,rode over the friend, when i asked about him..whatsoever,i am a little bit scared to ask them more bcz it may bring about  me to be pulled over again..but i need someone who can help him take a right decision in this regard.i damn sure he prefers him to be no founded. i guess many reasons why he may lag behind to retreat his mind back to the right position which is healthy to both sides...
(1)He may get as caged in love while thinking of his family and background.
(2)He may feel inferior complexes while looking back to the breach of his words given to his father.
(3He may see him as not deserved for the love of the parents because his mind changed a lot by the dint of distance and difference of cultures which he be familiar with..
(4)He is absorbed in bagging much money for his better life,absent-minded to his real world which loves him much..
(5)Yet something is happening around him which we dont know..
Howsoever,i am startled to know that probably he also follows the posts well ,if so, my all words are running wide.and yesterday i was so sad to hear his father's tearful words about him.He narrated me many painful stories which he faced when trying to bring up him through wealth and health...The father is not sure to see his son who forgot them when become ok with life.i am sorry to say u friends that i had to give my word to his father that i will give him back his lovely son as soon as possible,while trying to help him take  control of his mind...pls help me to work out any idea to help him take a right decision for his lovely life..

[namsheed]

Namsheed,

I have found a different address and phone number. I called the phone number today and left a message. There has been no reply yet. I cannot provide the address and phone number to you as Hilal has a right to privacy. If I hear from him, I will tell him to contact his family.
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Alberta Missing Persons....
       dear friends...this is one of the massages i got back from the good minded, who looked for him..this is also a good omen which indicates he is well and peaceful now but dear friends,,how can i find his mind...what is his situation/ and what about him? how can i answer back to the parents..../ >/? i am really so sad..
 

[namsheed]

the same friend replied me this way too...

Namsheed,

I have not heard from Hilal. I don't even know if it is his real phone number because the recorded message was a computer generated phone service message, not his voice. I have not found his name in any other police database. His last known address in Alberta does not appear to be valid. Mail sent to it from the motor vehicle department has been returned.

It appears that he has chosen not to contact his family. Unfortunately I can offer no further assistance.
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missing person in Alberta...

[debbiec]

It appears that he has chosen not to contact his family.

It also appears to me that Halil has chosen not to contact his family. Although I realize this is not the answer they are looking for Halil is an adult, and as such, has the right to do that if he chooses.

[namsheed]

dear friends,,,yes he has the privilege and prerogative to resolve to do so. i also see eye to eye with u in this regard..but dear friends, see, i never dare to forcefully catch his body out of mind back to his family by webs of crafts and disguise.May be ur remorse may reiterate that  now only our performance should be to allow him his right but pls i need only to say u that while well knowing the parents,i feel, they have also some rights that go to know him and what is his present life and what is the reason why he is unable to contact with his family..we guess that he may choose it as it is for him..but what is in fact reality>?, do we have any evidence for the conviction?...Either,if he is in dilemma of any bad influence forcefully led to be chosen it, and or, if he needs our help to be introspective, i can only remind u that please dear friends,, for the heaven sake,we have to be responsible to it if we can feasible....dear friends,,,i know all of u are good minded and stay here to help, i think it is better if we can help both of them  perform their rights to the core in a broad air..Mostly many cases are reported here as missing persons...some results of them are precisely closed as found out their bodies,be fortunately alive or unfortunately dead..here we are lucky probably because,ahead of us is a remorseful human mind hoping to be found out.....
                                                                                  many prayers from the innocent family and probably the nice mind to u all....

[Concerned]

MyLife, as I understand it, requires you to register a user name, email, etc. But, I believe it is free. I have heard of people not using their real names, and providing a distant email obtaining access to the MyLife info. For the most part I hear the info is usually not that important.

Has there been progress with the missing persons report as discussed with the LE office?

[namsheed]

dear concerned,
 thanks for ur massage,
      As i mentioned above,we are going to approach Indian Police to file the case because Alberta police replied us that  they could not find out the person there but only if we go ahead with the letter of Indian police to them.Now we are in Oman and,trying to go back in India for the purpose soon. U know, they nationally belong to India and now are in Oman with regards to  their business.As far as i am concerned, at present, i am at lack of holy days,being engaged with kids in school by the dint of that i am a teacher here..The tearful parents wanna get me there for help.I think I ought to set aside time for the sake of them soon.But on the other hand,i expect from u helping hand to satiate the family  to tackle over the present severe sorrow,if their lovely son is ok there in his place and looking for good omen to look after them..

[namsheed]

dear bro, first of all we need to know how is his present life and whether he is willing to meet his family....all  we have is only guessing...we need to know his mind..that s why we are trying our best to get his friends and to ask assistance ...that s why we are not filing case...if we do anything against his mind, it may cause harm his mind and body so sad.. we love him so much and his lovely family wants to get his love back too... they all love him too much and waiting for his call and news... but time so hard urges us to be enthusiastic much... may God  bless all of you to get the situation found well...t