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PEILady

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2011, 08:05:20 PM »
It is crazy here with all the rumors.  What I can tell you that is fact is they have just now confirmed that she was killed in the car.
Rumors stated and from pretty good sources were that the husband was at home with his children at the time and this new couple was very much together and very out in the open as well...co-workers of hers had commented on it before the deaths even had occured on how flirty they were with each other.
Now, lets think about this stuff.  This happened on the most used highway on the Island.  If the driver would have killed her, would he have stabbed himself, or took the car into the nearest pole at 150kms or head on with a tractor trailer? 
The day of the murder, there were aleast 20 police officers searching well into the next morning all the surrounding areas, but for what?  Perhaps a gun that is rumored on how she died?  Or maybe a murderer?  Did they perhaps pick up a hitchhiker? 
The police are being way to unfair to us Islanders if there is one bit of theat to the community.  I am hoping the family is getting better answers then we all are, because all it is doing here is making the both people who passed away look like cheaters.  They both left their spouses before this happened and both seemed like very nice people.  He did not work at the casino fulltime. 

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2011, 08:31:35 PM »
One thing puzzles me, if the man was conscious, why didn't he say anything?  Since the police have no leads, I am assuming that he was in pretty rough shape and could not talk.  On the other hand, if he was in such rough shape, why would the police handcuff him to the gurney?  Strange - very strange.

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ps - Good point about Anderson House.  Was it her own family who made the arrangements? Were they attempting to explain why she left?  Or was it hubbies idea, as this may have been her pet project?  The latter part, I am doubting.
So tragic - 3 beautiful children left without a mother.
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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2011, 11:57:29 PM »
I don't know who made the funeral arrangements for the female victim.  Also, her obituary is not online as yet

Arrangements made to date: LAWLESS FUNERAL HOME Kinkora, PEI

Fri. Nov. 18th wake 2-4pm and 7-9pm
Sat. Nov. 19th funeral services 10am St.Malachy's Church Kinkora, PEI

Maurean will be brought to MURPHY's FUNERAL HOME Pembroke, ON for service and burial, details and dates not yet arranged. Will post as soon as final arrangements made.

Posted by her sister in her memory page on fb

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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2011, 01:30:29 PM »
Nobody has stated who is investigating this case. In a news report the RCMP spokesman said that the NB detachment was going to be investigating. I am getting upset here about this, I just hope that this is not a cover up for the estranged husband. Officers in the past have been known to cover up for crimes committed by their counterparts. This is kind of stinking to me, it just is. If the police are saying this was an isolated incident, so why are they saying that. If these people had an affair going, so be it, but who is the killer here. It does not sound like a murder/suicide. I am convinced here that it possibly is a love triangle, sorry.  But isn't it ironic that the husband was home looking after the kids and how old are they, infants???? They cannot even give an alibi. This is starting to stink to me, sorry, but I'm telling it like it is.

PEILady, I do hope you keep us involved in the news that you hear. A terrible tragedy. And no obituary for Mrs. MacDonnell out yet, this is sad. So why wouldn't the estranged husband write up the obituary. Death is final and all the troubles are over about the marriage. I would just like to know Mr.'s reaction to these deaths, it is very supicious to me.

And how come the officers would handcuff a critically injured individual, give me a break here. They knew who these people were, in a small town everybody knows everything and especially if their coworker's wife was having something going on with another male. This is trying to put the blame on Mr. MacLean, immediately, I would say, before they even had any thought for his welfare and what happened.  Like I said, the whole damned thing is quite out of the ordinary. The estranged husband had a motive. And the fact that there was nobody there outside of that RCMP Detachment there, it is very troubling that the evidence is secure and that nobody is going to get away with murder here. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Oh yes, I forgot to mention also, it does not say that the weapon was a knife, but it did say that a knife was found. So the knife may not have been the weapon, it could have been another object, which we do not know as yet. And the police did say they would release the cause of death to the public, so what is the hold up. The knife could have been a red herring, to lead the investigators away from the real cause of death. We won't know until the autopsy results are released.

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2011, 05:51:40 PM »
Excellent points Capeheart.  Upon initially reading it, I rushed too soon - re murder - suicide. We will see what the police announce.  And yes, outside forces should be brought in to investigate, considering her husband is in the RCMP. An impartial assessment is required.

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2011, 07:57:40 PM »
Just want to say it is a well know fact that many many cops carry throw away guns.....just saying

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« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2011, 08:45:31 PM »
In my opinion this case should not be investigating by any RCMP officers from any province. This force is federal and they protect one another. They are well known for their cover ups. I don't know what force can be trusted but I definitely wouldn't trust the RCMP on this one.

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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2011, 09:27:01 PM »
In my opinion this case should not be investigating by any RCMP officers from any province. This force is federal and they protect one another. They are well known for their cover ups. I don't know what force can be trusted but I definitely wouldn't trust the RCMP on this one.
Marueen, I am definitely in your corner on this one. This is a murder for sure and I felt that at the beginning.If anything is done to cover this up, this would be the biggest farce that ever was.  And didn't I just read that MacDonnell was a "forensics specialist" in Afghanistan. Well he could definitely pull this off and be home at his place before the police got there. They just have to time it and do the proper work on this case. Yeah, there's another person that was involved and they had the motive. I get angry just writing about this case, because the writing seems to be on the wall here, coverup. I maybe too quick to say it, but I'm getting a sick feeling in my gut about this case already.

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2011, 09:47:06 PM »
It definitely has the makings but, would the entire force go along? Just seems too brazen but have to watch this very closely.

There were what close to 20 officers searching the area after the murder?

 
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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2011, 12:40:11 AM »
I would think that tips could go to whichever detachment is closest to our area.  I am sure that if I knew something and called, let me say, Summerside, then they still would take it. 
I was chatting with a close friend today who works for Cavendish farms and they said something that hadn't occured to me.  This happened on our most travelled road, as i had said, but not only that, this was the most popular time of day as shift work would be happening at that hour.  As anyone on here who has ever been to PEI knows, you would never pass by a car that was on the side of the road with the 4-ways on as that would mean some kind of car trouble, and we just would consider that to be rude.  Also, you would defiantly see someone being shot, a struggle or stabbed as you notice stuff like that. 
Questions I have:
It just does not make sence that she was murdered in the car, unless it happened in another place and then they were rushing to the nearest hospital, BUT, if it was the husband, would he not do it right the first time?  If he did, he wouldn't want him to talk and he should know how to do it correct?  The only thing I can think is that IF it was him, he had to have hired someone as the travel time along with the people who claim they saw him those times just do not add up. 
Most people have cell phones so where was Mr. MacLeans or Mrs. Macdonnells?   Why didn't he call 911?  Was he scared the police would come?  Did they find a cell phone in the car? 
Why is everything so quiet with and about Rick's wife?  Has she been questioned?
I am hearing so many rumors as this Island is a everyone knows someone kind of thing.  i will say that one thing that everyone is agreeing on is one thing.  That is that they all thought that Rick, Maurean, and her husband are/were all good and nice people. 
So sad that there are now 5 children without a parent tonight and a lot of family and friends who are grieving and wondering how and why.  With the funerals coming up, how horrible it must be to not only be grieving, but be a suspect when we don't know all the facts. 
As far as the police, RCMP are usually stationed here as a first stop because of our low crime rates so really this is a new thing for them and many likely have never been in this postion before, which makes their jobs even tougher.  I will not give into the hype of police will cover for their own as I just don't agree with it and never have. 
There is going to be a press conference tomorrow afternoon, but they said not to expect much new "shocking" evidence.

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2011, 05:14:21 AM »
There are any number of possible scenarios none of which may involve either estranged spouse.  Perhaps these questions will be answered in time or they may never be.  Hopefully, they will.

In these types of situations it is always the children who lose most.

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« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2011, 09:17:35 AM »
The RCMP are hardworking men and women that risk their lives for us the public and face situations on a daily basis that are terrifying, heart wrenching, and traumatic to keep us safe.  Of course in any profession there is going to be the occasional bad apple, however I find some of the comments being made towards the RCMP offensive and completely unfounded at this point.  I am also from P.E.I., and everything I am hearing at this point is that it is murder/suicide.  MacLean has a prior record for stalking a woman years ago and apparently MacDonnell was planning to break things off with MacLean and return to her husband.  (Even if the former statement turns out to be false and is just a rumour...I really do not believe the RCMP are trying to cover things up..if they were they would have already declared it a murder/suicide from day 1..but instead they are taking the time to explore all possibilities.)

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2011, 11:56:55 AM »
Quote: Tougher Laws

I really do not believe the RCMP are trying to cover things up..if they were they would have already declared it a murder/suicide from day 1..but instead they are taking the time to explore all possibilities.) Unquote

(Bolding is mine/jb)

Excellent point. Best not to rush - time will tell, and hopefully it will be solved. A busy highway, shift changes from the plants, totally mystifying.

Thanks for explaining (previous posters) why the tip line would go to his detachment, and this makes perfect sense.

I doubt very much if this man is presently on duty, as his life has been turned topsy turvey, regardless of the outcome.
I hope he had no part in it, for his sake of course, and for the children who are now without their mother.

So many rumours, which is natural, and it is up to the police through their investigation to sort the wheat from the chaff.

So many times victims personal lives are brought forward to be hashed out by the publc, and very often the grain of truth is very small, and the rest is blown out of proportion.
No doubt there will be more of the same, and the children still have to go to school and live in their community. Perhaps we should remember that.

Bless them.

JB




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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2011, 03:07:58 PM »
Could it be for the sake of the families? Memorial Services, and Funerals being held?

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« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2011, 04:09:05 PM »
How do we know anything about Mr. MacLean, this is not a fare statement. We don't know if he was a stalker and anyone could start that rumour. The setup of when they were found is what bothers me. If Mrs. MacDonnell's door on her side of the car was open, she could have opened  her door willingly and thinking she was going to get out to talk to someone and they killed her, possibly a gun shot or whatever the weapon. And would Mr. MacLean then walk around the car to the passenger side and stab himself, well that certainly a weird way of murder and suicide, if I ever heard it. And we know a weapon was found, but if Mrs. was shot, where was the gun???? And if the officers were all around there looking for evidence, did they have every item in plastic bags and use gloves? Did they take the vehicle on a flatbed and have an outiside Police Dept. check this vehicle meticulously for DNA evidence. I am not convinced of anything that the police say here, because one of their own is involved here as being a spouse of the deceased. I hope nothing is overlooked here and that someone does not get away with murder. RIP Mr. MacLean, gone before your time. I extend my deepest sympathy to your family members.  Also,  I wish to extend my deepest sympathy to the family of Mrs. MacDonnell.   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(