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Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« on: November 14, 2011, 02:13:47 PM »
Maureen Catherine MacDonnell, 36,  estranged wife of Cst. Steve MacDonnell of the RCMP was found dead in a parked car on the side of the road with the door open and 4 way flashers on.  Richard Scott MacLean, 47,  was found behind the wheel. He was taken to hospital and died of his injuries in hospital.

RCMP Sgt. Andrew Blackadar said, he could not release causes of death.  "Sgt. Blackadar's quote in the news story was, "I certainly can confirm that both are unnatural deaths."

You can go to the PEI Guardian and read the story. This is very tragic and I want to send my condolences to the families of the two victims. This is in the early stages, but definitely sound like two homicides. :o :o :o :o :o
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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2011, 03:58:31 PM »
Am, I certainly am thinking immediately a triangle here of some kind.  I am just wondering how long the couple has been estranged. The male person died from his injuries. So it was evident they were both in the car, so it certainly will have to be sorted out what has happened here. But two young people are dead, this is very tragic news for the people of PEI. There was nothing on CBC news this evening at 5:00 about this case. But I am just waiting for CTV local news to come on and see if there is anything mentioned there.

I did watch the news just now and there was information on Global, but not CTV about the deaths. An RCMP officer indicated that the two deaths were unnatural. He also stated that the estranged husband an RCMP officer was not on duty today. He was questioned, but NB officers are being called in to investigate the case. A weapon was found at the scene, but it did not state what the weapon was. I am wondering if it was a gun. This will be moving along quickly, I do believe. I think the writing is on the wall related to this case.  A shocking tragedy for all concerned. The officer did state that this was an isolated incident. So it kind of tells you that they are possibly hours away from charging the estranged husband. My prayers to the family and coworkers of the people involved in this terrible tragedy. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2011, 04:32:52 PM »
Yes Cape very tragic news for little PEI, one never really hears much regarding crime from there..at least not of that nature.
Haven't read or heard yet as to whether the estranged husband is a PEI officer and both victims were also residents of the province.

Just a guess, but I am figuring, estranged wife, boyfriend, brother or good friend, driving along and pulled over by an RCMP cruiser driven
( unbeknownst) by estranged, hence the four ways on and the driver's door open.

Could be way off base here but this sort of scenario is so very familiar. Big egos get in the way many times in marriage breakups.   Just my opinion of course.

Keep us posted.

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2011, 05:00:08 PM »
It could also be murder suicide, especially since the murder weapon was left at the scene.

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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2011, 05:19:33 PM »
It could also be murder suicide, especially since the murder weapon was left at the scene.

A murder weapon left at the scene?  I was unaware any determination as to cause of death has been determined..just that it was suspicious???

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2011, 05:32:29 PM »
In the latest update it says that the estranged husband has been questioned and at this point they do not believe that he was involved (which must mean he has a pretty solid alibi for them to release this information to the public so early).  It also stated that they're estrangement only began a few weeks ago. At this point there are many possibilities.  The link for the P.E.I. newspaper is:  www.theguardian.pe.ca .

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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2011, 05:48:01 PM »
In the latest update it says that the estranged husband has been questioned and at this point they do not believe that he was involved (which must mean he has a pretty solid alibi for them to release this information to the public so early).  It also stated that they're estrangement only began a few weeks ago. At this point there are many possibilities.  The link for the P.E.I. newspaper is:  www.theguardian.pe.ca ./quote]

Thanks Tougher for the information and the link.  Still nothing though regarding the LE recovery of the "weapon" as Scotsquine mentioned.
Sorry hate to be a pessimist but I have my doubts re hubby.  Too bad cops investigate cops..PEI is so very small, how many RCMP officers?

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2011, 06:15:57 PM »
amIam here is the link with mention of them locating a weapon at the scene:

 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/story/2011/11/14/pei-new-annan-homicide-584.html

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2011, 06:43:05 PM »
Here is another link:

http://www.globalnews.ca/estranged+wife+of+pei+mountie+1+of+2+victims+in+suspicious+death+investigation/6442521249/story.html

Apparently the 2 deceased persons worked together at a casino in Summerside, P.E.I.

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2011, 07:22:09 PM »
I am definitely not thinking murder/suicide in this case. The couple were estranged for only a couple of weeks. I believe this was a double homicide. The victim's estranged husband was off duty on the day of the deaths. Of course, the officer is not going to sell his coworker down the river right away. This sounds to me like a crime that was committed out of hopelessness. An outside police force is going to investigate this case. And the officer said it was an isolated incident, so how can people say that unless they are pretty sure of what has happened. Because at the end of the news the officer stated, we're not ruling anything out here.

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2011, 01:17:55 PM »
The fact that the two deceased worked in a casino might also have something to do with their deaths.
Seems to me it would have been the driver who would have pulled the car and turned on the flashers. In any event, I would have a close look at that Casino as well, although I agree, it is not looking  good for the estranged husband.  However, I can't see him throwing away the murder weapon. In this case, the man may be completely innocent - maybe he is "just too handy to think of - first out of the gate"?
There is also the possibility that the driver of the car, may also have had a jealous lover, or had been targeted for other reasons unknown to us, and the woman (witness) "had to go as well."
Just throwing that out there for further discussion.
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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2011, 02:10:51 PM »
Thanks Tougher Laws for both links. 
Very sad for family members of the victims.
I find it very odd the car was found parked at the side of the road, flashers on and driver's door open if this were not  homicide.

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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2011, 02:18:26 PM »
It's interesting the RCMP guy said "we have found what we believe to be a weapon". I wonder if it's just bad wording on his part. Did he mean "the weapon for this crime" or "we don't know if this was used as a weapon... but it might have been what was used at a weapon". Could mean it wasn't a gun or knife but a blunt object maybe? :/

Interesting observation, the bolding is mine regarding the statement by the RCMP guy..seems from the statement he is confused as to what could be used as a weapon.??
We will have to wait and see what the autopsy results say as to cause of death.

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Re: Two Suspicious Deaths in PEI/Nov 13/11
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2011, 02:24:40 PM »
So early for speculations, but here goes! The car was pulled over with four way flashers on. We don't know yet if the woman was injured in the car or before she got in / was put in the car. Perhaps the two began arguing and this was the result. Maybe the male driver pulled over because of a heated discussion and it got carried away.

Or maybe they argued at a residence where she was injured. Then he decided to put her in the car and kill himself?? Then I would ask why did he just stop on the side of the road and do it instead of going into the woods or another concealed area.

Or maybe she was the one with the weapon. She took it out, he pulled over, she injured both... But again, if this was the case why would he pull over and put on the four way flashers?

The most likely scenario in my mind at this point is murder/suicide where the male driver pulled over and did his thing... This thought is also supported by the fact that the police say it is an isolated incident.