Author Topic: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC  (Read 68262 times)

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #60 on: December 14, 2011, 09:21:54 PM »
jobo sure brass knuckle are a weapon and in ont at least they are actually illegal to have.  But I suppose any thing can be a weapon.  I recall the big right up in the news paper when a guy was charged in North Bay lol they were my neighbors and were fighting not sure what happened if he hit her or not but any way the police were called and at the time they arrived his was sweeping the front porch to cool off his temper.  Well he waved the broom at them and told them to get lost that every thing was okay.  So that was considered a weapon the broom I mean.  I was sitting on my porch reading when this all happened.  lol He got charged with threatening the police with a weapon.  So I think anything can be considered a weapon depending on how it is used lol. JMO

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #61 on: December 14, 2011, 11:22:31 PM »
I don't know where to post this, the warning was from the same Police department from the same area where Taylor was killed. Seemed a bit of a resemblance but way older in my eyes. But we are comparing to a sketch made from another crime about 6 years back. Maybe the guy aged or looks a bit older than thought and not at all like the original sketch anymore?

Anyway, Canada wide warrants should be posted where? I have no idea how to transfer this wherever it should go either..
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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #62 on: December 14, 2011, 11:53:26 PM »

Perhaps a section in General Discussion where we post Canada wide warrants? We have a lot of readers who may recognize someone if we post a picture.

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #63 on: December 15, 2011, 12:38:54 AM »
Ok put it in general, will leave this here too. Not like they don't want anyone to know or to watch for this guy.

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #64 on: December 15, 2011, 12:58:38 PM »
The point I would like to leave about this was that the sketch we are seeing is from a case 6 years back. The sketch did not produce a suspect then even when it was fresh. Even if the sketch was fairly accurate then, I suspect the culprit would have changed his appearance significantly since. Keeping attention and perspective focused on that sketch alone narrows the range of possibilities, possibly even to the exclusion of being able to recognize him now.

There is also the possibility that the original victim 6 years back whether by traumatization, intoxication, fear, or even a personal reason, may not have given an accurate depiction then.

The sketch did not produce and isn't likely to produce results now. Have to look at it in other broader ways imo.

The example posted, is likely too far out of the realm, but nothing should be overlooked. We have discussed sketches before and have seen how they varied from the eventual suspect when arrested. Ross Kleman when arrested for Emily Stauffer's murder was a decade older than thought or portrayed. just something to keep in mind.

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #65 on: December 15, 2011, 06:31:00 PM »
This composite drawing is from the sexual assault that happened at the Garden of Eden Escort Agency in Kelowna in 2005.  I am/was assuming that this composite from 2005 would be fairly accurate, since the attack happened inside the Agency.  I am/was assuming there was more than one witness to what this Perp looked like,  I do agree D1, the Victim could be too traumatized etc. to give a good description, but I was hoping there was other people that saw this guy in 2005.
That being said....the composite does show a fairly young looking guy, and he is described as being in his 20's.   
The picture of this other perp arrested for weapons charges etc.....he would have been 40ish in 2005 and looks his age (47 now).

In my opinion the perp that murdered Taylor will be still young looking....30ish, but could very well have changed his appearance since 2005.   You're right, the original composite sketch didn't produce any leads. 

The perp that murdered Taylor should have had scratches on him.....somebody saw that, and needs to come forward.

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #66 on: December 15, 2011, 06:55:08 PM »
That is a very good point jobo, I had assumed the opposite as it was a rape and assumed it was completed in private with no witnesses hence the dna evidence left. Way different and much more compelling if more than one person saw the perp then and contributed to the sketch.

Kelowna escort service office may be little more than a small back room or even a private residence with a phone. I don't know the particulars here. 

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I am/was assuming there was more than one witness to what this Perp looked like,  I do agree D1, the Victim could be too traumatized etc. to give a good description, but I was hoping there was other people that saw this guy in 2005.

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #67 on: December 15, 2011, 08:28:03 PM »
I too, would have thought an Escort Agency just sets up "dates" for their girls to go on, but the wording of the article says the attack happened inside the Agency.  I still could be wrong though, there may have been only one witness, the Victim.   
Like you say, D1, we don't know the particulars to what kind of set up the Garden Of Eden has. 

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #68 on: December 19, 2011, 08:30:51 PM »
I haven't gone in to confirm but it appears there may be something to that jobo. How did the guy get away with it under these conditions though? May not have been the same set up back then but interesting. What all did he do to constitute rape, forget to pay? I doubt it, had to be more to it than that. Anyone care to give a call for details?
http://www.gardenofedenbc.com/services.php

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #69 on: December 19, 2011, 09:18:14 PM »
Composite sketch of the perp; post #50, when you blow it up take a good look at his eyes. He may not look the same because he has changed his facial hair, but you won't forget his eyes. I think the composite sketch artist payed particular attention to the description given of his eyes.

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #70 on: December 19, 2011, 09:24:43 PM »
I felt the same when looking at the composite sketch, art. It seems the artist did a good job of capturing the look in the perps eyes. That stands out to me. 

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2011, 10:32:18 PM »
http://www.pentictonwesternnews.com/news/130577463.html

This assault took place a month before about 2 hours away. Note that the man had dark eyes and was about 5' 8". Could it be the same suspect?

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #72 on: December 20, 2011, 11:51:15 PM »
Leon, good post - a possible that is for sure.
Also kindly look at the following guy (I posted this earlier and now it is gone)
Let me know what you think.
http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/133817163.html

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #73 on: December 21, 2011, 11:12:50 AM »
Jellybean: Nope that guy you posted is 6 foot 2 and the suspect we are looking for is more like 5 foot 8. I thought I posted something which is also deleted that points out how suspect sketches can throw people off. It's more important to look at the features that cannot be disguised such as height for example. If an artists gets a missing person or suspect sketch slightly wrong then we are all looking for the wrong things.

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Re: Taylor Van Diest - 18 - Murdered - Oct. 31, 2011 - Armstrong, BC
« Reply #74 on: December 21, 2011, 11:17:08 AM »


I didn't delete that post leonagleant. Not sure what happened, as I didn't see it either.