Author Topic: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011  (Read 1021273 times)

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #600 on: October 18, 2011, 10:26:03 PM »
Sorry but the local posters have driven me to say this.  I am very happy that I do not live in this town the way I see the people on here spreading gossip and behaving.  I see no respect for Amber or her family and especially not for her BF.  Would she be proud of you people , after all this is the man she chose to live with.  I see a lot of me me me , and I heard , I heard, and I know , I know, We know , we know.  This is begining to discust me, thank god I dont live there.  Every one from this town need to shut up or put up.  If you don't have facts then for god sakes shut up you are causing the police more trouble.  If you know something then for god sakes put it out there.  All these crazy accusations , speculations, and gossip does nothing but take the attention away from this poor missing girl.  Hope everyone is having their day, in which ever forum they are creating drama in.  Seems some people have made up their minds so it doesn't matter what the truth is or who is charged if it isn't who they want then the police will be wrong and they will be right.  Begining to think the police need to install a cerfu in this town because of a few.  Things have gotten ridiculous , a parade for god sakes, pray tell me what do you have to celibrate?  Where is the mayor or city council or any one of authority or with common sense.   Sorry for those who don't like it but this is my opinion.  Do you know what kind of impression you have given the rest of the world of this town.  Am I pissed , yes I sure am .

Well said. I read another post which states the kids will not listen to the parents ... golly gee ... the parents are on FB and forums throwing gossip wildly so what direction do the kids really have. Then someone had the nerve to tell us to get off our asses and forget about prayers b/c it doesn't do any good. The Police are probably chasing rumor/gossip tips as well, which is costly. How many times did police have to remind people to stop the rumor mill?
I came here to find more info on AMBER KIRWAN and all I read is gossip and finger pointing and guilty by public opinion, yet all know what their kids are keeping back. So we have mind readers as well. This is what makes Pictou county dangerous.
It is plain madness and hysteria.

And Sap. This isn't a court room so I would suggest this isn't the forum for you to be searching for the information you are looking for. If all the evidence was on line then charges would be laid by now.

Thank you for the direction however it's not required; I'm a long timer on missing and murdered cases.

Last time I checked this was a thread for Amber Kirwan: Missing. However it has become a public internet  courtroom and the public have become specialists in body language, mind reading and have declared Mason guilty. All this, while Police are still searching and trying to put a case together.
I suppose it beats a celebration parade and yelling profanities at drivers passing by. I've never seen anything like this and I've seen some of the worst forums around. Some of you are an amazing study.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #601 on: October 18, 2011, 10:40:32 PM »
Couldn't have said it better Sap.  Thanks.  truly amazing isn't .  The behavior on here I mean.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #602 on: October 18, 2011, 11:07:43 PM »
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Thank you for the direction however it's not required; I'm a long timer on missing and murdered cases.

Last time I checked this was a thread for Amber Kirwan: Missing. However it has become a public internet  courtroom and the public have become specialists in body language, mind reading and have declared Mason guilty. All this, while Police are still searching and trying to put a case together.
I suppose it beats a celebration parade and yelling profanities at drivers passing by. I've never seen anything like this and I've seen some of the worst forums around. Some of you are an amazing study.

Well said SAP. I've been on this site for a long time and can say that with all the missing people we have, I have never seen anything like this before.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #603 on: October 18, 2011, 11:13:42 PM »
I do not know either MC or AK on a personal level. I have, and will not, make any accusations. I am of the law that a person remains innocent until proven guilty. Theoretically, her boyfriend could be most terrible boyfriend on the planet and still have nothing to do with anything. He could also be the best boyfriend in the world and have everything to do with it. And you know what? Someone else ENTIRELY could have done this (regardless of whether is was a lousy boyfriend or a wonderful one). All I am saying is that no one should be accused of anything because of their "perceived"character. The "Craigslist Killer" was engaged and was "percieved" as the best boyfriend in the world (according to his fiancee). He was in Medical School getting awesome grades. And also a secret serial rapist on the sideline. SO...

Example 2:
A creepy-looking 50 year old man sitting in a park bench watching children play. "Must be a pedophile!" you say.  However, this old man you "percieve" as creepy and a "pedophile" is really a registered psychologist taking notes on child behaviour. So don't judge someone based on who you "think" they are. You could be totally wrong.

I hope Amber is found soon. I just can't point fingers at anyone until 1) They find that person and 2) Find them guilty in a court of law

« Last Edit: November 11, 2011, 04:20:32 PM by PleaseComeHome »

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #604 on: October 18, 2011, 11:16:00 PM »
you have very good points Please,  I totally agree with everything you said.  Just wish that town could see that as well.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #605 on: October 18, 2011, 11:35:42 PM »
Here are all the facts I have seen or read through the media

Amber Kirwan is missing
She was to meet her bf at Big Al's walking from Dooly's
She was never seen again after leaving Dooly's
It is out of her character to not let her bf or family know where she is
Police and SAR searched starting at Dooly's and working their way towards Pictou Landing(where bf and Amber live)checking the river, wooded areas and empty buildings along the way
Police and SAR searched the area on Heathbell Rd and at the same time the water surrounding bf and Ambers residence
Bf's car is taken by police
Police and SAR search wooded area around bf and Ambers residence and continued to search water as well


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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #606 on: October 18, 2011, 11:40:06 PM »
And by my post I am not saying people should not express their feelings on this case. I do appreciate them and enjoy reading what others have to say. I like to know the facts and read them here and asks questions. I just prefer (personally) not to point a finger atm.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #607 on: October 18, 2011, 11:45:46 PM »
PleaseComeHome , what a refreshing post and the examples are so very true. :)

FromPC, the shoe found near Dooly's ... we seem to hear it was Amber's shoe however did police make a positive ID yet and give that info out publicly? I know they found some clothes and that was going to forensics as well and certainly that info would not become public knowledge. Not a whole lot of facts is it?


This video is beautiful. It has clips of Amber and Mason, what a lovely couple and they looked so happy.
Now it's so sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLJfPeF0Nc&feature=player_embedded

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #608 on: October 18, 2011, 11:50:52 PM »
Police and SAR searched starting at Dooly's and working their way towards Pictou Landing(where bf and Amber live)checking the river, wooded areas and empty buildings along the way
Police and SAR searched the area on Heathbell Rd and at the same time the water surrounding bf and Ambers residence
Bf's car is taken by police
Police and SAR search wooded area around bf and Ambers residence and continued to search water as well

Below is a statement regarding this search. It was made by the police and printed in a news paper article which I posted. Yes, the police did search areas that were close to the residence where Amber and her bf lived. I believe as in any proper investigation they were covering all the bases.

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Wild rumours began circulating over the weekend as county residents began noticing increased police activity in areas being searched. There have also been rumours about what may or may not have happened the night Kirwan disappeared.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #609 on: October 18, 2011, 11:52:52 PM »
Thanks Sap that is a nice video and yes they sure look happy in the picks.  A well done video to whom every made and posted it.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #610 on: October 18, 2011, 11:55:06 PM »
SAP  .....when you break it all down, it really isn't alot of facts. As far as the shoe .....the police never actually said what they found. However ,on the internet version of the local news paper they had an article on the shoe with a very clear picture of a black flat shoe. Then later that day it was taken off the site and never put in the actual paper (that I know of).  I didn't want to mention it in the facts because the police have not released info on it and I assume that they asked the local news to remove it from their news site.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #611 on: October 19, 2011, 12:00:13 AM »
Your right PC there aren't a lot of facts,  lots of speculations but very few actual facts.  I would think that until such times as She is found and the police have all the information they need there will be very little released to the general public.  Doing so would only hamper their case.  Thanks for providing us with what you do have though.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #612 on: October 19, 2011, 12:06:09 AM »
I think that's why people are going so crazy over this. Such little facts ...... if it was a case with a pic of a possible abductor ......or information that screams were heard in a certain area ...or a witness saw her get in a car etc etc. People may not be going so crazy and pointing fingers.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #613 on: October 19, 2011, 12:08:56 AM »
SAP  .....when you break it all down, it really isn't alot of facts. As far as the shoe .....the police never actually said what they found. However ,on the internet version of the local news paper they had an article on the shoe with a very clear picture of a black flat shoe. Then later that day it was taken off the site and never put in the actual paper (that I know of).  I didn't want to mention it in the facts because the police have not released info on it and I assume that they asked the local news to remove it from their news site.


Thanks for that info "fromPC". I wasn't clear on a lot of material.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #614 on: October 19, 2011, 12:19:27 AM »
I think that's why people are going so crazy over this. Such little facts ...... if it was a case with a pic of a possible abductor ......or information that screams were heard in a certain area ...or a witness saw her get in a car etc etc. People may not be going so crazy and pointing fingers.

If the abduction happened by that dark spot of trees as all the patrons were leaving Dooly's which seems like a large establishment (so many people), I can understand no one hearing screams for help. Many people will have had quite a few and they tend to get loud. I've seen now that smokers need to go outside to smoke and I happened by a little pub one night and thought there was a big fight going on as people were talking loud in small groups. No fight, just very loud talking. Whomever, if it did happen there, grabbed Amber will have covered her mouth quite fast, imo.

As Debbie posted with that article, I also believe the searches are normal/routine and working their way out from Dooly's and the downtown area. I hope things settle down and the Police can do their necessary work.
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