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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #195 on: October 16, 2011, 06:29:39 AM »
I am Mason's 'actual' mother. I raised him.


His god mother who raised him works in internet service providing or something like that so I think people may be spooked to speak out online. 

Eva, I believe this may be where Chills got the information regarding you being Masons godmother. I dont think he/she was trying to debate that you raised him. (i know this is quoting from a post way back, but just seeing this now)

Posted on your facebook page on Oct 10th..

Eva Campbell -
PLEASE POST THIS ON YOUR PROFILE ...
AND HELP FIND AMBER.!
Amber Kerwin has been missing
since 2AM this morning.She's my Godson's girlfriend ,
he went to pick her up from Dooleys last night . IF
... anyone has any information on
her whereabouts could you
please call (numbers removed for privacy reasons)

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #196 on: October 16, 2011, 07:30:40 AM »
Dukus and Event Girl, it was actually my impression that very few people posting on this forum believe Mason is involved in the disappearance.

The priority should be in finding Amber.  Time enough for all the name calling, speculation, etc afterwards.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #197 on: October 16, 2011, 08:34:52 AM »
    As I do not get involved in civilian discussions, I feel the need to intervene.
Tensions are running high, people are fearing the worse, emotions are hard to contain....this is stressful for all involved, and horrific for those directly involved.

   It is incomprehendable that people listening to online scanners, Facebook and even this web site are forming conclusions and having online debates.
It is downright disgusting on FB with things that are being discussed and said.
You are not subject matter experts, using Google doesn't quantify.

   Human nature makes people want to be involved in issues that have no buisness being in....chasing ambulances, firetrucks, etc.... but I assure you, it will not help this cause with negativity and speculation. Pray to your higher power if you are religous, be supportive, help if asked, but stay out of the way.
Let the agencies do their jobs, help if asked to, but keep personal opinions and judgements to yourself.

    I lived in Pictou County a long time ago, and I applaud you all for pulling together for this young lady, it is typlical Maritimer fashion, to go beyond to help strangers....it is unique and it is not seen anywhere else in the world.

I now work overseas as a consultant, and deal directly with piracy and hostile hostage takings, and the precautions and safeguards to protect people.
I know and see first hand on all aspects of what everyone is going through....It is a roller coaster of emotion, and sadly there are no guarantees.

I have included this young lady in my prayers....best thing for many of you to do, is shut off your scanners, stay out of internet debates....Just keep supporting the families and agencies with what you have.

I hope for the best.



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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #199 on: October 16, 2011, 08:47:58 AM »
Thanks for the update Hockey nut.  Still hoping for a happy ending, but as time passes it make that not likely.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #200 on: October 16, 2011, 09:05:16 AM »
The Fact that they pulled the search teams and are focusing on evidence and tips should indicate that they have some solid information if not a suspect. As for one gentlemans post of   turning off scanners and keeping off these forums and blah blah blah. This forum is here for a reason and if we can learn to control our emotions I do not see and issue with sharing information. Of course even with scanners and so on we will never know the brunt of the information because police are smarter than to discuss full details over the radio anyway.

Unless the suspect has a sexual motive for the abduction and is twisted enough to enjoy holding her captive, I would hate to say it but at this point I feel the case will turn to a homicide investigation.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #201 on: October 16, 2011, 09:10:01 AM »
The Fact that they pulled the search teams and are focusing on evidence and tips should indicate that they have some solid information if not a suspect. As for one gentlemans post of   turning off scanners and keeping off these forums and blah blah blah. This forum is here for a reason and if we can learn to control our emotions I do not see and issue with sharing information. Of course even with scanners and so on we will never know the brunt of the information because police are smarter than to discuss full details over the radio anyway.

Unless the suspect has a sexual motive for the abduction and is twisted enough to enjoy holding her captive, I would hate to say it but at this point I feel the case will turn to a homicide investigation.

I'll again note that earlier Sir/Madame you said you were Law Enforcement.. if this were true you would not have that stance on scanners. as well as i surely hope you would pay more attention before posting... Teams are out searching again and haven't been pulled.

I note this for the other members just skimming as I feel optimism is better than listening to someone who claims to be Law Enforcement saying it is probably a worst case scenario.


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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #202 on: October 16, 2011, 09:12:55 AM »
This is a link to an article written October 15th and updated today. This was posted earlier by Hockey_Nut. It speaks of search crews that are in the area. It does not appear that the search teams have been pulled.

http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/2011-10-15/article-2778727/Update%3A-Search-for-missing-girl-continues-/1

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #203 on: October 16, 2011, 09:15:09 AM »
RE Cell phone call.  It has been discussed that a call came through to 911 from a girl but when the number was called back it was disconnected.  Then someone said that even a disconnected number can accept a call from 911.  So, how can that be?  Does this mean that 'call' that eveyone heard reported was just a rumor and not fact?

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #204 on: October 16, 2011, 09:23:01 AM »
RE Cell phone call.  It has been discussed that a call came through to 911 from a girl but when the number was called back it was disconnected.  Then someone said that even a disconnected number can accept a call from 911.  So, how can that be?  Does this mean that 'call' that eveyone heard reported was just a rumor and not fact?

The point behind me saying 911 to call it back is because the lock the phone. If you ever call 911 for an emergency from a house or cell all outbound calls you try and make until they clear your line go to a 911 dispatcher.

Example if i had someone I had kidnapped, they tried to call 911 on my cell but i catch them and take it away from them hanging up. I then try and call my accomplis using the same phone dialing 555-5555 and I get connected to the dispatch again.

Cell phones are tricky though most times where people get lost they have weak coverage so they might call 911 and move 3 feet and loose the signal which would mimic a disconnected phone. My understanding is however that a PSAP can call back a disconnected phone as long as it has battery power, is turned on and has coverage.


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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #205 on: October 16, 2011, 09:30:08 AM »
The Fact that they pulled the search teams and are focusing on evidence and tips should indicate that they have some solid information if not a suspect. As for one gentlemans post of   turning off scanners and keeping off these forums and blah blah blah. This forum is here for a reason and if we can learn to control our emotions I do not see and issue with sharing information. Of course even with scanners and so on we will never know the brunt of the information because police are smarter than to discuss full details over the radio anyway.

Unless the suspect has a sexual motive for the abduction and is twisted enough to enjoy holding her captive, I would hate to say it but at this point I feel the case will turn to a homicide investigation.

I'll again note that earlier Sir/Madame you said you were Law Enforcement.. if this were true you would not have that stance on scanners. as well as i surely hope you would pay more attention before posting... Teams are out searching again and haven't been pulled.

I note this for the other members just skimming as I feel optimism is better than listening to someone who claims to be Law Enforcement saying it is probably a worst case scenario.


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Good Day GSAR
I am not sure if you directed the scanner comment to me, Or perhaps Sgt.
Anyone with any Law Enforcement or millitary background should well know the dangers in scanners, and knows we dislike them for obvious reasons.
They are used by criminals, millitia, guerrillas etc.
That is why we use transript scramblers and Inmarsat....But then again, Sgt should know these things.

Controling emotions and opinions is key Sgt....Using references like blah blah blah, your opinions on scanners, and personal opinion of the conclusion of this case simply shows your ignorance and lack of professionalisms and good judgement. A security guard at MacDonalds doesn't count as Law Enforcement.

I will not reply again here, I simply wanted to share positive thoughts and give my vast experience in matters like this.
To all of the family and friends of this young lady, I hope this bad dream ends soon, and she is back in your arms.

Signed....A specialist.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #206 on: October 16, 2011, 09:49:19 AM »
RE Cell phone call.  It has been discussed that a call came through to 911 from a girl but when the number was called back it was disconnected.  Then someone said that even a disconnected number can accept a call from 911.  So, how can that be?  Does this mean that 'call' that eveyone heard reported was just a rumor and not fact?

The point behind me saying 911 to call it back is because the lock the phone. If you ever call 911 for an emergency from a house or cell all outbound calls you try and make until they clear your line go to a 911 dispatcher.

Example if i had someone I had kidnapped, they tried to call 911 on my cell but i catch them and take it away from them hanging up. I then try and call my accomplis using the same phone dialing 555-5555 and I get connected to the dispatch again.

Cell phones are tricky though most times where people get lost they have weak coverage so they might call 911 and move 3 feet and loose the signal which would mimic a disconnected phone. My understanding is however that a PSAP can call back a disconnected phone as long as it has battery power, is turned on and has coverage.


GSAR_Mbr

Just to back GSAR a bit ... modern telephone networks allow for this to occur. being disconnected is just a flag that is turned off/on by the telco, so I would imagine it would be rather trivial for them to call back a disconnected phone.

If it still has battery output and a GPS chip, all it needs is power, it doesn't need to hold cellular signal after it has tranmitted once to determine the  cellular triangulation or GPS transpondance.
Of course this is sofisticated ops.

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #208 on: October 16, 2011, 10:21:32 AM »
RE Cell phone call.  It has been discussed that a call came through to 911 from a girl but when the number was called back it was disconnected.  Then someone said that even a disconnected number can accept a call from 911.  So, how can that be?  Does this mean that 'call' that eveyone heard reported was just a rumor and not fact?

The point behind me saying 911 to call it back is because the lock the phone. If you ever call 911 for an emergency from a house or cell all outbound calls you try and make until they clear your line go to a 911 dispatcher.

Example if i had someone I had kidnapped, they tried to call 911 on my cell but i catch them and take it away from them hanging up. I then try and call my accomplis using the same phone dialing 555-5555 and I get connected to the dispatch again.

Cell phones are tricky though most times where people get lost they have weak coverage so they might call 911 and move 3 feet and loose the signal which would mimic a disconnected phone. My understanding is however that a PSAP can call back a disconnected phone as long as it has battery power, is turned on and has coverage.


GSAR_Mbr

Just to back GSAR a bit ... modern telephone networks allow for this to occur. being disconnected is just a flag that is turned off/on by the telco, so I would imagine it would be rather trivial for them to call back a disconnected phone.

Sorry something fishy, I've removed my last post. Doing this from my phone I thought you were correcting me that is why i was confused. Again I apologize! Thanks for backing my note:)

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Re: Amber Kirwan - Murdered - New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
« Reply #209 on: October 16, 2011, 11:19:57 AM »
Also, on her profile on FB she said Mason was her godson.  It doesn't matter but that's how people get their ideas and shouldn't be attacked.  What else are we supposed to think?

He was implying early on that he 'knew' us....he did not. My sister (his godmother) posted that on my facebook, while we were all out searching for Amber. Its not that they said that he was raised by his godmother that I was pointing out....it was that the poster was putting himself out there as a person who knew Mason and I personally, and he clearly did not.