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Author Topic: Richard Curnow MISSING WHILE JOGGING IN EMILY PARK RIVER VALLY EDM 05 May 2011  (Read 9030 times)

Jon423

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Richard Curnow went missing may 05 2011 in Emily park in the river valley. Time was between 7:00-7:40, he was jogging with 9 other people but jogging at there own pace. He was wearing black under armor shirt, black pants, and ASIC sneakers. He is 5'11 208 lbs brown hair. If u can provide any information please let me know, he is and has served this country for the freedom that u live, repay him by bringing him home to his family and friends.

Thank u very much

capeheart

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JON423, I did see this on the news and I was very suspicious of this at the getgo. Do you think that someone did something to Richard. Was there any jealousy amongst the ranks. And this was very early in the morning that this run was to have happened and nobody saw him. Do you think that Richard could have made plans to just disappear on his own, I doubt it. Did Richard have any enemies in the  team, I mean this is certainly strange that he could disappear like this. Did they have any communication devices with them, ie. cell phone, radios, as they were in the military and this would be standard things that maybe they would have. The thing that makes me feel that someone did something to him is, his vehicle was where he left it. Also, were there any cougars or animals that could attack him quickly, that he had not time to cry out. I just find it very disturbing, unless he planned to disappear. I also find it strange that they called off the search so quickly. Do they believe he left on his own??????? I do feel something like that, because they called off the search so quickly. Hoping for the family that they do get answers. These are just my own thoughts and I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, it is just scenarios that we do think about in a case like this. I truly hope and pray that Richard is found safe. ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

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I don't believe there is a conspiracy theory here.  I really feel that it could only be one of two scenarios:

1) Decided to go AWOL (highly unlikely, considering a person needs money these days to do anything).
2) Committed suicide by jumping in the river.

Sad but true.  He wasn't attacked, he wasn't eaten by a wild animal.  We honestly don't know what was going on in his head or in his personal life - and it doesn't really sound like those closest to him knew either.


Jon423

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Thanks for having a look at my Post, very important for me, friends and family to know that people are aware!!

Yes it is a mystery, to all of us u know Rich,

AWOL- No, He has nothing, No Reason, Loved his Job. Not his Character. Love for his family and Daughter is to great had a lot going for him in his young life.

Took His own life by jumping in the River, Not likely- been to the location were he went missing, not the best place to take your life. On the side of the river? No, I can see a bridge but he didn't make it that far, to many people around, runners in back of him! They were on a 10Km run to high level bridge, he made it to entrance of wood area after emily park parking lot. Last time seen, there were people in front of him that turned around at high level bridge which is about a 1km distance from were he was last seen, for those guys thats about 4-5min's not much time!!! Someone would of seen him in the water!! Don't u think?
Yes u are right people don't always share what is going on deeply with in! But After being with the very close people to him, and understanding the night before from his many encounters. Taking his life is not likely, people take there own life do it alone not with people who work with u around. The time factor does not make and scense1, and HIS DAUGHTER WAS HIS LIFE!!!!!!

This is a mystery, we will take any help we can!!

Thank you

pamplemoussecat

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Also highly unlikely - but an idea...maybe he jumped in the river after seeing someone out there struggling/floating and tried to help? 

Whatever happened to him - my thoughts are with his family and friends and I don't mean any disrespect by my posts.  I am just as puzzled as everyone else. 

Also, does anyone else find it hard to believe that Project Kare and the RCMP suddenly decided to comb the river valley right after Curnow went missing?  I am wondering if they are trying to connect the dots here or what exactly their rationale is.

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Maybe he had a heart attack and keeled over, lost balance and either landed in the river or into the bush, down an embankment.

Jon423

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I know what u mean in regards to project care we are thinking the same! But we do have have a inside contactvin the dept! No disrespect taken at all glad people are talking! It helps ! He is a good man!

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This is truly puzzling.   There was a search for Richard, but it was certainly called off quickly....why?    I am thinking that perhaps he had fallen into the river, and couldn't save himself.   I hope answers come soon.

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I really don't want to sound like something out of a movie...but, being that he has served 2 tours in Afghanistan already, is it at all possible that he was needed by 'special ops'? for something so covert that his 'dissappearance' would be necessary??  I know it sounds 'way out there', but it DOES happen....

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I don't think that the search was called off too quickly.  I mean, all of the areas he should have been were covered by military and EPS, multiple times.  They can only spend so much time combing the same areas over and over again.  I believe that the police have experienced enough people who have gone missing in the river valley to know when to stop looking because the only logical place is in the river itself (which I hope is not the case).

Also, keep in mind that EPS is still considering this a missing persons case and is surely investigating his family and home life in search of clues.  First place they should be checking is his home computer/laptop to see what he was researching prior to his disappearance.  If this was indeed a planned move, there would be some sort of indication in his computer files. 

Lets keep hoping he turns up soon.

Baba Donya

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I think he may have gone to have a tinkle....and unfortunately fell in. :(

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Baba, that could be, may have gone to relieve himself and lost his balance and fell. AWOL wouldn't be wise, where would he go without being seen. Unless Richard had a plan to go AWOL, this would be very difficult. He would have to have a plan to meet someone to help him. His car was left in an area and he did not come back for it.  The poster who mentioned his computer, that's where you have to look, on his computer and if he was going on his own, answers should be there. It definitely is a mystery. But he could have taken a heart attack, but I have no idea of what the terrain is like there. Were there high embankments there or was it a pretty level terrain, no hills or anything to tumble down?? I do hope they find out what has happened to Richard, because not knowing must be very difficult on his family. :o :o :o :o :o :o

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Family continues search for missing soldierRyan Ellis, Global Edmonton: Monday, May 9, 2011

Family, friends and even complete strangers spent the weekend searching for a missing Edmonton soldier, picking up the search that police and military personnel called off on Friday.

Master Cpl. Richard Curnow disappeared last Thursday during a 10 kilometre training run through Edmonton's river valley.

At its peak, the search team comprised upwards of 70 people - including soldiers from the Edmonton Garrison, police officers and Edmonton Fire Rescue members. Both the EPS and the military called off their physical searches Friday afternoon.

Curnow's wife Justine MacKenzie-Curnow said she understood why the search had been called off, but vowed that family and friends would continue the effort.

"I'm clinging to every bit of optimism I can hang on to," MacKenzie-Curnow said.

Family and friends spent the weekend scouring trails throughout the river valley and distributing posters throughout the city. Even strangers have picked up the cause.

"He's got a wife and daughter, I have a wife and a couple of daughters," said John Ward, who volunteered his time this weekend. "I'd want people looking for me. If I can help I will."

MacKenzie-Curnow said she's been inspired by the help the family has received, but not surprised.

"A lot of them are parents that know we have a three-year-old that are saying 'what can we do to bring your daughter's father home?,'" MacKenzie-Curnow said. "It's hard not to get emotional because it means so much."

The family has also set up a Facebook page dedicated to spreading information about the search for Curnow, and are encouraging those interested in helping to spread the word through online social networks like Twitter.

http://www.globalwinnipeg.com/Family+continues+search+missing+soldier/4751618/story.html

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The river valley has many trails for walking, bicycling, etc.

There is bush in some parts, steep embankments, but trails, are far enough away from the edge, so the only way he would have gone off towards the river, would be to relieve himself, unless he saw something. Some soldiers think they can handle anything...but maybe he was overtaken, by some of the people who live along the banks. Like transients or squatters.

Edmonton has such a large influx of people right now.

Although if he fell into the river, his body will show up, downriver.

Who knows what those tours to the middle east do to some people's minds though???

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Jon423, you did say you went to the general area where Richard went missing and what I'm wondering is whether there are steep embankments in the general area and near the river? I've seen some of the river banks in a few areas like up near Fort Edmonton and the water is fairly deep there; I don't know/remember all the areas off hand.
What I had in mind was, might Richard have tried to run up a steep embankment and fell into the fast flowing river...(fell back and sustained an injury, fell into river) and the reason I'm thinking that is I've seen the terrain in Jasper that these young fellows run, not sure if they run is the same every year but when I was there, we took the gondola up to the teahouse and watched these forces fellows running, sometimes along ridges and sometimes straight up; there were some pretty straight climbs/runs. Whether on the spur of the moment he thought he'd try a straight up b/c he might have known what the big run in Jasper would be like. 

 

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