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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2370 on: February 25, 2017, 08:09:06 PM »
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The parole board says he is eligible for day parole on Sept. 13, 2019, and for full parole on March 13, 2020.

Only for their pet Vader! If you or I killed someone in SELF DEFENSE, we would not get such a little slap on the wrist. It doesn't seem to be much of a crime to go and kill a couple seniors anymore.

The boys from Bosco homes who killed two seniors a few years back did not face jail. So many instances where elderly lives did not mean a thing to our Justice department and parole board.

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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2371 on: February 26, 2017, 04:06:55 PM »
Just wondering...... he has not applied for this parole.  I wonder if he is waiting to have his sentence completely overturned, through his lawyers by using the new Supreme Court ruling as to time limits of 3 years.

If he is on parole, he would not be a free man, but would have to report until his full sentence is complete.  Was it 25 years?  I can't recall.
Every time I read about arrests on this site - and finally come to trial, I finger count.  lol

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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2372 on: February 26, 2017, 04:31:53 PM »
He can start applying as of March 13 next month.

I would say certainly his lawyer will still try and get his total sentence revoked. He's a damn sore loser, like Vader. Two peas in a pod. Defense lawyers have a place, but defending the guilty??

In my lifetime I don't think I will ever see that a life sentence actually means life.

How many lives have been changed bc of Vader and his slum friends? I used to drive frequently to the mountains but the path takes me through that slum area where these kinds of lowlifes look for targets. So either I stay away totally or start to "carry" .

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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2373 on: February 26, 2017, 04:37:05 PM »
We have a weak justice system.  It borders on ludicrous.  There is no such thing as serving full term - if I read the following correctly.  With the exception of 1st degree - the criminals all have a kick at the freedom can.

Travis was out of jail and attended his own murder trial and he even abused that.
Late for court with lame excuses.  Got evicted from his motel room.
Was back on meth.
Stole a truck and copper wire -
All of this, while he was attending court!!

Will he face charges for the theft of  that vehicle, and the copper wire?

Can he be trusted with unescorted temporary absences?

Can he keep his sticky fingers off of other people's vehicles?

Will he report back to authorities (jail) on time each time?

And who is going to give him his "walking around money" for these unescorted absenses?
The taxpayers??

I said a long time ago that Beresh is a bull dog.  He takes on cases that other Defense Lawyers would not touch with a ten foot pole.

Vader and Beresh make a good team. Perhaps Vader should join his law firm.

No wonder witnesses to a crime are often afraid to come forward, when the culprit gets out in no time at all, and is able to track down the witnesses against him, even before they can change their address.

https://www.canada.ca/en/parole-board/corporate/publications-and-forms/fact-sheets/types-of-release-fact-sheet.html
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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2374 on: February 27, 2017, 12:14:07 AM »
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Conditional release does not mean the sentence is shortened, it means the remainder of the sentence may be served in the community under supervision with specific conditions.

If it wasn't such a sad case, the above is hilarious thinking in terms of Vader.

He can't get "good" and stick with it. How else is he going to get meth and booze money except to commit robbery first.

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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2375 on: February 27, 2017, 12:40:00 AM »
I wonder if he will have to wear the "ankle bracelet" when he is out and about town totally without supervision?

I hope a cop car follows him wherever he goes.  Might even catch him jay walking, or littering, as he can't obey any rules whatsoever. ::)

The taxpayers tab is over one million dollars by last report.
The Province better double up on their oil production - just to pay for Travis' "legal bills"

Other criminals are stuck in the line up for legal aid. (not that I care)

Travis didn't have a pot to pee in, nor a window to throw it out of.
But somehow.....nothing but the best for Travis Baby!

Seems to me the McCann's are sadly forgotten.
The self-pitying Travis once had a bad day in Nicton Junction when the McCann's disappeared.
It was just another bad day in the boonies for Travis - nothing more - nothing less.

Disgusting!! 



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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2376 on: February 28, 2017, 01:08:22 PM »
I guess 25 years in prison is only served on paper.

The victims matter little, the culprit is molly coddled.

What a laughing stock our justice is!!

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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2377 on: February 28, 2017, 03:15:21 PM »
The city of St. Albert has requisitioned for artists to design a sculpture commemorating Marie and Lyle McCann's life.  While that is a decent  thought, those powers that be could really begin working with elected officials to push the justice system to improve. IMO that would be something to commemorate. We need American justice.

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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2378 on: February 28, 2017, 03:30:51 PM »
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We need American justice.

It is beginning to look that way.

Never thought in a million years that I would ever agree with that.

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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2379 on: March 11, 2017, 04:48:02 PM »
Berube - this name is so familiar to me (can't quite place him). Not - Travis's case.
Something else - years ago.... in the papers.

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/man-linked-to-travis-vader-case-hurls-accusations-at-judge-during-outburst

Man linked to Travis Vader case hurls accusations at judge during outburst
Beginning in March 2013, Berube spent 495 days in protective segregation at the Edmonton Remand Centre due to his involvement in the investigation of Vader in connection to the disappearances and presumed deaths of St. Albert seniors Lyle and Marie McCann in July 2010.
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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2380 on: March 11, 2017, 05:10:08 PM »
AT LAST - THE COPPER WIRE THEFT COMES HOME TO ROOST!! SOCK IT TO HIM, SOCK IT TO HIM/jb

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/travis-vader-serving-life-for-killing-elderly-st-albert-couple-due-back-in-court-on-break-and-enter-charges

The Alberta man sentenced to life in prison for the manslaughter deaths of St. Albert couple Lyle and Marie McCann will go to trial on charges racked up while out on bail during the double murder trial last year.failing a drug test and contacting a Crown witness from his murder trial. Police also alleged he was involved in a copper wire and truck theft at a west-end industrial park when they arrested him.
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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2381 on: January 08, 2018, 01:57:13 AM »
http://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/judge-defines-weapon-in-dismissing-travis-vaders-bail-violations-appeal

An Edmonton judge created a new test for defining a ?weapon? under the Criminal Code while dismissing an appeal by Travis Vader.

Vader was found by police ?in the middle of nowhere, driving and behaving erratically? on Feb. 28, 2015. Inside his pickup, officers discovered a machete and a fishing knife, which led a provincial court judge to convict Vader in 2016 of violating a condition of his bail.

At the time, Vader was awaiting trial for killing St. Albert seniors Lyle and Marie McCann.

Vader was fined $100 and sentenced him to six days in jail, but received credit for time served, according to court records.


Vader didn?t dispute possession of the machete and knife, but his appeal argued the judge erred in considering them weapons under the Criminal Code definition that they were ?designed for use.?

In a decision filed with the Court of Queen?s Bench on Tuesday, Justice Terry Clackson dismissed Vader?s appeal, saying the trial judge rejected other possible uses Vader had for the items.

Clackson also decided to grapple with the section of the code he described as suffering from ?considerable uncertainty.?

Clackson wrote that the test for determining if an object that has both violent and non-violent potential uses is indeed a weapon should be ?context? about the accused?s design, as well as the examination of other reasonable possibilities. Clackson gave the example that it is reasonable to have a machete in a forest, or a fishing knife at a lake, but it is not reasonable to have either on a city bus.

Vader is currently serving a life sentence for his convictions in the McCanns case. He has also filed an appeal in that case. 

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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2382 on: March 31, 2018, 02:46:56 PM »
From Sept 2017.  After being sentenced to life in prison, the law was not finished with him.....

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/travis-vader-trial-parole-drugs-1.4276366Vader is also charged with an alleged copper wire and truck theft at a west-end industrial park.
The trial on these new charges is scheduled to run until Friday.




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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2383 on: August 23, 2018, 10:22:21 AM »
Date scheduled for Travis Vader’s appeal of manslaughter convictions
By Jennifer Henderson  Aug 22, 2018


A court date has been set for the appeal of Travis Vader’s manslaughter convictions in the deaths of two St. Albert seniors.

Vader, who is currently serving a life sentence in the deaths of Lyle and Marie McCann, is slated to come before the Court of Appeal of Alberta on Nov. 28.

Vader was convicted of manslaughter in the deaths of the senior couple in 2016.

The criminal trial of the disappearance and deaths of the McCanns spanned six years and was finally wrapped up with a life sentence on Sept. 15, 2016.

The McCanns were last seen filling their motorhome with gas in St. Albert on July 3, 2010, before setting off on a planned trip to visit with family and camp on the West Coast. Their burned-out motorhome was found near Minnow Lake campground, southeast of Edson, two days later.

Their bodies have never been recovered.

Vader was originally convicted of second-degree murder by Court of Queen’s Bench Justice Denny Thomas in the deaths of the McCann couple. Thomas relied on a section of the Criminal Code, which had been deemed unconstitutional by the courts 26 years earlier. The verdict was eventually substituted for two counts of manslaughter.

Vader was sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for seven years.

In January 2017, Vader’s defence lawyer, Brian Beresh, filed the documents for an appeal, stating that Vader is looking for a stay of proceedings on the sentence or an acquittal. If the matter was to go to trial again, Vader would request his case be heard by a judge and jury.

https://www.stalbertgazette.com/article/date-set-for-travis-vaders-appeal-of-manslaughter-conviction-20180822

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Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Reply #2384 on: August 25, 2018, 08:31:21 PM »
https://www.stalbertgazette.com/article/mccann-ready-to-fight-again-if-vader-gets-new-trial-20180824

BY JENNIFER HENDERSON AUG 24, 2018
Bret McCann says he’s ready to fight again after a date was set for Travis Vader’s appeal hearing.

Vader has been given a November date for his appeal of his manslaughter convictions in the death of McCann’s parents, Lyle and Marie.

McCann doesn’t believe that Vader will be granted a new trial, although if he does get one, McCann will fly from Australia where he now lives to attend the new trial.

“I don’t think that he has any chance of getting a new trial, so we are not worried about it or anything like that. We are quite confident that it will be rejected.”

Rather than feel unsettled when he heard that Vader was appealing his verdict, McCann said he just accepts that the appeal is “an inevitable part of the process.

“We were not surprised or disappointed or anything by this,” McCann said.

McCann hopes that Vader will “ultimately accept full responsibility for his horrific deed,” and McCann is confident Vader will serve life in prison.

In a statement, McCann said it is clear Vader murdered one of his parents in front of the other and then went on to murder the other.

“Despite a mountain of clear and irrefutable evidence, Vader has not acknowledged his guilt nor disclosed the location of my parents’ remains. Without a proper funeral and memorial, our family is unable to fully grieve and reach a measure of closure,” the statement read.