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Baba Donya

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« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2010, 06:47:22 PM »
Watched NG. She is all over this one!

As I watched the video of them entering his room at the hotel...she hesitated, slightly... Something made her hesitate...

That smug look on his face....ohhhh.....he planned it all!

NG...."What was he doing in Peru?"  Good question.

There is NOT AN OUT THIS TIME!

...There is a devil in the details...Two pop bottles empty, later when he goes for coffee...he goes for one cup. Hmmm....he killed her, and came back, what a whack job he is!

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« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2010, 06:58:06 PM »
New search in two bodies of water in Aruba for Natalee Holloway. NG...says, "A day late, and a dollar short."

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« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2010, 08:08:32 PM »
Baba, I did not realize that he went in the room with one bottle of pop or coffee, that is so pathetic. The nerve of this creep. He is a cold blooded killer. I just wonder how many young women he has terrorized and they never came forward. Absolutely no out this time.  :o :o :o :o :o :o

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« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2010, 09:03:18 PM »
I'm not apologizing for Joran in the least, but I also find Nancy Grace and many sensation seeking media are not getting facts straight.
Joran during investigation for bruises/scratches:
There's alot pointing at him, but now even LE are confused over matters andthey probably need to watch every bit of surveillance video on that room from the time Joran left until the body was found. In the picture no scratches. He has a tattoo on his left chest in Thai that translates to "No problem". This case really hinges on the forensic tests.

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« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2010, 11:00:28 PM »
Just saw FOx News is reporting that he has confessed

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/08/report-van-der-sloot-confesses-peru-murder/

An official in Peru says Joran van der Sloot has confessed to killing a 21-year-old female student from Lima, the La Republica newspaper reported late Monday.

According to the paper, Van der Sloot admitted he broke Stephany Flores' neck in a rage after she apparently used his notebook computer without permission and discovered he was involved in the disappearance of an American woman.

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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2010, 12:42:54 AM »
He is unbelievable....what an excuse...it was hert fault he killed her...HOW ARROGANT!

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« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2010, 02:51:21 AM »
"The moment he's not in control any more, he can be really dangerous," the detective told The Associated Press on Monday.

Van der Sloot is the son of a respected lawyer in Aruba who died in February. He was 17 when Holloway disappeared in 2005 and he spent three months in detention, then returned to the Netherlands to study. Two years later, he was arrested again and sent back to Aruba for further questioning.

It's unclear how he supported himself when he wasn't in jail. He is an avid gambler, and reportedly spent much of the last two years in Thailand, where De Vries claimed in 2008 Van der Sloot was recruiting Thai women for the sex trade in the Netherlands.

Just days after the slaying in Peru, Van der Sloot was charged in the United States with trying to extort $250,000 from Holloway's family in exchange for disclosing the location of her body and describing how she died. U.S. prosecutors say $15,000 was transferred to a Dutch bank account in his name.

Van der Sloot has told conflicting stories of his involvement with the Alabama teen. He and two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, were the last to see the 18-year-old honors student, who was on a school trip to Aruba to celebrate her high school graduation.

He initially told island police he took Holloway to her hotel, then later said he left her alive and well on the beach. He apologized for lying earlier.

At other times he claimed Holloway collapsed and died on the beach, and he dumped the body in the ocean. On another occasion he said her body was taken to a marsh.

In a lengthy 2006 interview with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News, Van der Sloot described drinking shots of rum with Holloway, whom he said he met while playing poker at an Aruba casino, then taking her to a beach and leaving her there around 3:30 a.m.

In De Vries' 2008 Dutch television documentary, Van der Sloot said during a secretly recorded conversation that Holloway was drunk and slumped to the sand as they were kissing.

"Suddenly she started shaking and then she didn't say anything," Van der Sloot said in Dutch, adding that he did not kill her. "I would never murder a girl."

The interview prompted authorities in Aruba to reopen the case, but Van der Sloot later said he made up the whole story and he was not charged.

"I have a busy imagination and it was one big lie. ... Nothing's true," he told interviewer Jaap Amesz in a show broadcast on Dutch TV last year.

He told Amesz yet one more story. Holloway was dancing on a balcony when she accidentally fell over the railing, he said, his eyes filling with tears.

Amesz, who had arranged for the polygraph test, asked Van der Sloot if half of everything he said was a lie.

"Oh, more than half," he replied.

Van der Sloot's lie detector test lent support to that admission.

Annette Heldens, the investigator who questioned Van der Sloot, said he continuously squirmed in his chair to throw off the polygraph machine.

"He tried to manipulate the results," she said. Nonetheless, she said the test showed he lied when he repeatedly answered "no," to questions about whether he was involved in Holloway's disappearance or death.

Polygraph tests are inadmissible as evidence in the Netherlands, and Schalke said police did not follow up after the results were broadcast on TV.

After Van der Sloot was shown the test results, Amesz asked him on camera what he thought the consequences would be.

Rather than answer, he grabbed a glass of water from the table, spun out of his chair and smashed it in fury against a wall.
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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2010, 02:56:24 AM »
I think we're in for a long ride on this case. Joran was trying to extort 250,000. from Beth for telling where Natalee was buried. He received 15,000 and another 25, ooo was supposedly wired to Holland. Police seized alot of info over there, so it seems that Joran was about to be arrested and fled Aruba. He could not go back to Holland and it seems he has enemies also in Thailand. So far he has been to other countries within SA probably starting in Columbia. Little money left, he goes to casinos to try his luck. I have seen a fragment of an article written by J Yucca but cannot find the whole article nor link. The article states that Anita and her two sons are on their way to Peru now to visit Joran.

Also stated in the article is that Joran was seen surrounding himself with women at casinos in Columbia, and now Police are looking for missing women. It's too early to say for sure but just possibly his MO is finding wealthy women to rob/borrow from, etc. If  robbery has been his motive and they can prove it, his jail sentence dramatically increases. Therefore, it becomes a possibility that in Stepheny's case he makes the excuse of her finding some private info on his compu. That is no reason to kill, but that's Joran who has been coddled and enabled by many, including some who were supposed to uphold the justice system.

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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2010, 08:54:39 AM »
 Apparantly the Arubans are dredging a pond and a swamp...looking for Natalee. (I believe she is in the swamp, along with Jorans missing shoes).   They should have looked harder 5 years ago...perhaps Stephany would still be alive.  Too little too late.  I have a hard time watching video footage of Joran and Stephany walking together...he is ahead of her, walking like she does not exist.  No respect whatsoever.  I tried very hard to see if Stephany was holding a purse in the videos..apparantly they found a purse in the hotel room, but I do not see her carrying one. 
 I think Joran was a ticking time bomb...no Daddy, no money...no prospects...hence the blackmail in Alabama..and payment of $15,000 to keep him living his gambling lifestyle.   Accepting that payout sealed his fate with the FBI...but the wheels of justice are too slow, and another girl lost her life, in the meantime.
 His dead end life, his father dead, and the 5 year anniversary of Natalees disappearance all came together in Peru..and Joran lost it.  I heard that Jorans mother didnt even know he was in Peru.  Apparantly she is on her way there now.   Joran looks scared and done.  Like a deer in the headlights..  He knows this is the end of the road.  I think he will also confess to Natalees murder too, to try to get a better deal.  I hate it when these killers can make deals.... He needs to be in jail the rest of his natural life, in Peru. 
  Nancy Grace has no problem trashing the Aruban authorities every chance she gets...but you know what,  she is right on this one.  The fact that Jorans dad was a judge carried a lot of weight down there.   Kindof like the OJ Simpson trial...OJs fame got him off.  But a phsycopath usually doesnt stop until caught. 

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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2010, 09:42:50 PM »
I agree with too little too late. They didn't want to dredge that whole swamp awhile back as they were waiting for Joran to tell them where exactly. He never did. It's a difficult place to search they said back then; now they are searching there. Go figure. Also searching another place.
The regular spokesperson that American media have used on the NH case, Julia Renfro is a very good friend of the van der Sloot family, so you can be assured that most of her stories were untrue. In fact a poster at another site collected all her posts on a forum and they severely contradicted themselves. Seems all those who support Joran have a heavy penchant for lying.
Joran's mother in all interviews said they encouraged Joran always to tell the truth and they had no reason to not believe him. :o Well her first words, even after Joran confessed, "My son is innocent." This woman has been in denial for a very long time, and enabling her son at the same time.

I think the Arubans are now feeling as though many negative eyes are on them and their judicial system, while Peru looks quite good at pulling off the arrest. Joran apparently told his mother by phone that he was mistreated (his usual excuse) during the interrogation. Since it was recorded it won't fly for him this time. Whatever Stepheny found on his compu sealed her horrible fate. I don't think he can wiggle out of this crime, and the others may just pile up too once authorities go through his personal files on his laptop.

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« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2010, 12:31:50 AM »
And it's a slam dunk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
In the link provided at the end of the story, there is a lovely never before seen picture of Natalee with three of her close friends on the beach taken two hours before Natalee's disappearance. So sad.


Police: Van der Sloot Confesses to Killing Peruvian Woman
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(June 8) -- Joran van der Sloot, the prime suspect in the disappearance of American teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba, has confessed to killing a young Peruvian woman in his Lima hotel room last month, according to police.

Peru's chief police spokesman, Col. Abel Gamarra, told The Associated Press that during questioning, the 22-year-old Dutch playboy admitted the slaying of Stephany Flores. The 21-year-old business student was found beaten to death, her neck snapped and her body wrapped in a bloody blanket in van der Sloot's hotel room last Wednesday.

Van der Sloot will be brought back to the hotel sometime soon to take part in a police reconstruction of the events leading up to Flores' slaying, Gamarra said. The re-enactment was supposed to take place this afternoon but was delayed due to security concerns. If convicted, the Dutchman could face 35 years in prison in Peru, although it is not clear if his sentence will be reduced by his reported confession.
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Police in Peru say Joran van der Sloot confessed to the May 30 killing of a 21-year-old Peruvian woman in his Lima hotel room. Van der Sloot has long been a suspect in the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway in 2005. Here, Chilean police escort him out of a police station to be flown back to Peru on Friday.
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Police in Peru say Joran van der Sloot confessed to the May 30 killing of a 21-year-old Peruvian woman in his Lima hotel room. Van der Sloot has long been a suspect in the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway in 2005. Here, Chilean police escort him out of a police station to be flown back to Peru on Friday.
 
 While Peruvian police refused to say why van der Sloot killed the woman, the New York Post quotes La Republica newspaper as saying that authorities believe he flew into a rage after Flores looked at his laptop and saw that he was connected to Holloway's disappearance in 2005. "I did not want to do it. The girl intruded into my private life," the paper quoted him telling officers. "She had no right. She was scared, we argued, she tried to escape and I grabbed her by the neck and hit her."

Police said the two met while playing poker at a casino in Peru's capital, and this weekend released video footage of the pair entering his room in the early hours of Saturday, May 30. Van der Sloot left with his bags four hours later. He then paid the hotel in advance for another two weeks' stay and requested that workers kept out of the room. Soon after, van der Sloot got in a taxi, and paid the driver $600 to take him to Chile.

He was arrested by Chilean authorities on Thursday, and deported to Peru, where he was paraded in front of the media wearing a bulletproof vest. He initially told police that he had nothing to do with Flores' slaying, although he did admit to meeting her.
There are now suspicions that van der Sloot -- the son of a former judge and attorney on Aruba -- may have staged his attempted getaway using money raised through extortion. On the day that he was arrested in Chile, he was charged in the U.S. with trying to procure $250,000 from Holloway's family in return for revealing the location of her body and describing how she died. American prosecutors say $15,000 was transferred into a Dutch bank account in his name on May 10, four days before he arrived in Peru.

Van der Sloot has long been the main suspect in the disappearance of Holloway, 18, who vanished while celebrating her high school graduation on the Dutch Caribbean island. He told investigators that he left her on a beach, drunk. However, in 2007, a Dutch television crime reporter secretly recorded him saying that after Holloway passed out, he asked a friend to dump her body in the sea.
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« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2010, 01:48:42 AM »
LETS' THINK HERE......

How many days did he have before he got caught to come up with the lame brain idea, that he beat her to death when she opened his computer.....Is that all he can come up with???

When this young lady was partially dressed....what did she think...hmmm......I should read his laptop??? Now come on....what an idiot he is.... This shows how little he thinks of the intelligence of women!

He is so pathetic!  What did he check the law of Peru??? Maybe he thinks, there, that you can kill a woman for any reason in that country. Or is he one of those people who feel Laws of the Courts do not pertain to them....????

HE PLANNED HIS ATTACK ON THIS BEAUTIFUL YOUNG WOMAN!!!   

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« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2010, 07:21:49 AM »
I don't believe Joran's story either.  If Stephany googled his name, yes lots of info on him would have come up.  But I do not believe for one second that she would sit there and wait for him to come back with coffees, and confront him.   I certainly wouldn't say anything about what I discovered to a suspected killer of Natalee, if I was in a hotel room with him. 
Apparantly the judicial system would go easier on Joran if it was self defense.  And he is saying Stephany struck him first...can you believe it??  Self defense means a slap for a slap....not murder someone that slaps you......

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« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2010, 08:53:45 AM »
Perhaps she didn't google, but instead found his own collection of notes and info about Natalie. Took him by surprise and he reacted through instant response. This doesn't excuse the actions. Either way, you have to wonder if he was waiting for an excuse. IMO in light of the fact that he gambled to obtain money, knew she had winnings, and probably was made aware of her famous father, it would seem likely that he intended to find a way to obtain more money from her and her family since he was recently successfully at extorting money from Natalie's family. Being that Stephany was in his hotel room, I don't think he was intending on killing her. He should have learned from the Natalie experience the importance of having no chargeable clues (unfortunately). But then again, maybe it was others that guided him out of his crimes in the past. Perhaps that person is no longer around or supporting him and now left on his own, he will be less talented in orchestrating his future course. Being that he admits to lying often, I doubt she slapped him first, or at all. People with culture and grace don't hit others. And, if you are terrorized by the info on the computer, you would be doing anything in your might to get the heck out of the room without drama. The last thing I would do is slap him.  If so, it is a shame that he was sheltered all these years. For, perhaps Natalie and Stephany may have been contributing to life, and Joran would have been halted from destroying it.

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« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2010, 12:51:52 PM »
You all above are really truly great thinking sleuths! ;D

I've read elsewhere but haven't found the article with a link, that estimated time of death was between 6 and 7:30 AM. So his story about coming back around 8:10 with coffee and bread, finding Stepheny on his laptop doesn't fly. Blood tox reports show cocaine and marijuana and unfortunately this is something that will reduce a sentence in a murder case.

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