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Re: Kleman trial to start April 26/2010!! Daily updates & discussion..
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2010, 11:17:59 PM »
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In most of Canada, there would have to have been some leadup for a doctor to send a patient on for further testing. That takes a significant period of time for appointments to be made with specialists in most cases. Waiting lists are extremely long depending on which area you live. Which leads to more questions?? How long had this been in the works or did something "unusual" happen to prompt the hospital stay?

D1 Edson is a small town of 8000, so we have no specialists there, and no really good equiptment at the hospital. even if someone has a bad enough broken bone, they are sent to Edmonton for it to be dealt with there.. They send many patients to either the U OF A or the Royal Alex Hospitals in Edmonton, and it takes only a few hours for the arraingments to be made. Once they are in the city, they are assesed, and treatment is started.. It is different, than when you go to the medical clinic, to see your family doctor, then you are put on a waiting list, to see a specialist, but through the hospital, it is really fast, as if you are not getting any better while in the hospital, and like I said, they have exhausted all resourses available, then they are shipped out..Even patients in the Edson hospital, who only need an MRI, are sent to Edmonton in ambulance, and brought back..The Edson hospital, is not even equipted to do an major surgeries..

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Re: Kleman trial to start April 26/2010!! NEW UPDATE!!!!
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2010, 01:09:43 PM »
Hey guys, Kleman is in court for sentence today, no final desicion by judge as of yet, but please click the link, and listen to the report that was filed, by Brett Fisher.. I will update again, when we have word on Judges decision.. Praying for Justice for Emily today!!

BREAKING NEWS: Kleman appears in court
Ross Edward Kleman appeared in Hinton Provincial court this morning to find out what his sentence will be for killing Edson teen Emily Stauffer on the towns trails in 2008.
Kleman has pled guilty to second degree murder charges which means he will recieve a mandatory life sentence and will not be eligible for parole for at least 10 years.  It's up to the judge to decide when Kleman will be eligible for parole.
The judge has not made his ruling but victim impact statements were heard this morning by family members and the crown is recommending that Kleman does not get parole for at least 18 years.
Brett Fisher was in court this morning and filed this report:
We will keep you updated throughout the day with the latest developments on The EAGLE and on our website.

http://www.theeagle.ca/index.asp?mn=3&id=549&cc=120

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Re: Kleman trial Sentence just announced!!!
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2010, 04:05:57 PM »
YES!!! Life with no chance of parole for 18 years, + 2 additional years  for sex assults!!
Will post report, when it is up..Thank God the justice system, was on Emily's side for this one, Praying for The Stauffer family tonight, as I can only imagine how hard today is for them, with having to do Victim impact statements, and hearing all details in the case..

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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2010, 04:27:12 PM »
Yes! Hip, Hip, Horray! I hope this evil man sits in solitary confinment, for his own health of course, 23 hours a day staring at four walls pondering on the why.


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« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2010, 05:45:30 PM »
OMG what a bull sh*t story about wanting to kill himself that day, he went home, after killing Emily, and took his wife for supper.. Acted like nothing happened for 2 months.. went on to touch kids in his dayhome.. No wonder the crown said today, that "Kleman is a WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING"...

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Re: Kleman trial to start April 26/2010!! Daily updates & discussion..
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2010, 06:15:56 PM »
Well, it should have been the max, 25 years. And the 2 extra years are served concurrently, so it adds no time, really.

I wonder if we will ever know why after charging him with FDM would they allowed him to plead it down to SDM. I have never heard of that before.

He has everyone bamboozled. I say he is a dangerous person who will count the days down until he will be free to do it again.

Again with the sympathy... he was on the trail because he was going to committ suicide. Well Boo fu#king hoo. Yea, right. He had a murder kit with him, not a suicide kit. and if he went to committ suicide, how come he didnt do it after he killed Emily??

I just heard the prosecuter say that she thinks justice has truly been done. Really?? How in the hell can she say that??

If this had been Texas, he would have been sentenced to death.....


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« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2010, 06:28:26 PM »
It really appears that this was as premeditated as it gets. Its pretty well goodbye to most any first degree charges on anyone if Kleman can dodge the bullet for something like this.
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"a womans body in the woods" suspicious they say?

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Re: Kleman trial to start April 26/2010!! Daily updates & discussion..
« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2010, 07:05:57 PM »
I still feel as, the plea, had to do with the Margaret Findlay case.. I think he gave them the info they needed, on that case, in exchange for the lesser charge..I pray this is not the case.. but my gut instinct tells me different..

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Re: Kleman trial to start April 26/2010!! Daily updates & discussion..
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2010, 05:14:06 AM »
How many chances did he get prior to this point? How many chances?

Emily Stauffer, 14, went for a walk in her neighborhood. She only got one chance.

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A judge has sentenced Ross Edward Kleman to life in prison, with no chance of parole for at least 18 years, for killing 14-year-old Emily Stauffer on a walking trail in Edson, Alta., two years ago.

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A psychiatric assessment indicated Kleman had claimed to be suicidal from pressures at work and issues with his wife. But the reasons behind the attack have never been determined. Kleman doesn't know what motivated him to attack the teen, his lawyer Jan Ter Hart said. "This is truly a senseless crime," he said. "It just does not make sense. Even to him, it does not make sense."

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Kleman also pleaded guilty to one count of sexual touching of a young girl in an unrelated case from 2008. Kleman received a two-year sentence for that offence, to be served concurrently with the life sentence.

Emily Stauffer, 14, went for a walk in her neighborhood. She went for a walk. She will never come home.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2010/09/14/edmonton-kleman-stauffer-sentencing.html

When criminals are sentenced, I think the media owes it to the public to also include a wrap sheet of all the other convictions, sentences, and actual time spent serving sentence. See if we can live with that. See if our system is working.

The criminal is not the only one being sentenced. We are also being judged on the sentences produced, the crimes still being committed, and the result our system is having on fighting crime. Well, how did we do?I have a feeling if this was done before, Emily Stauffer could have gone for a walk that day, and returned home, skipping jumping, and enjoying life. Who are we protecting? How? Anyone up for a walk today by yourself in the woods?...there's your answer.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2010, 05:40:06 AM by Concerned »

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Re: Kleman trial to start April 26/2010!! Daily updates & discussion..
« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2010, 08:10:23 AM »
Edsonmom:  If your not right on, you are pretty damn close I think. But it is all for not, he would serve it concurrently anyway!!!! So he would still get out when he is 63.....you know because he is only a moderate risk to reoffend. So does that mean when he said he was sorry, he was only moderately so??

He is a typical sociaopath. He was so sure he got away with his crime and so untouchable that he gave a DNA sample.....

That is chilling EM that he took Deama out for dinner afterwards.......

Our justice system is so in denial about this case.....


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« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2010, 09:39:09 AM »
Margaret Findlay's murder is still officially unsolved. If Kleman cut a deal over his knowledge of that, he wouldn't likely rat himself out would he? For what benefit would there be to the police? He gets a lesser sentence for confessing to more murders? Nothing has been said and nothing is likely to be said about this by the police.

We heard how Kleman vehemently denied murdering Emily despite DNA etc, I doubt he would admitt to the  murder of Margaret Findlay if he were the lone killer. Yet, no charges surfaced against anyone else. It would be tough to call Kleman as a witness and there didn't seem to be much evidence.

I think there is more to Kleman and more murders that he could have been involved in. But that is not likely to ever see the light of day.  So, Emily may have caught and put an end to something bigger than we will ever know. She gave the ultimate sacrifice and saved who knows how many more potential victims. Its not perfect, but its all we are left with.
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Re: Kleman trial to start April 26/2010!! Daily updates & discussion..
« Reply #42 on: September 15, 2010, 10:21:56 AM »
Stauffer killer gets life, 18 years without parole
Hinton News
By Marilyn Gray

The Edson man convicted of killing 14-year-old Emily Stauffer in 2008 was sentenced to life in prison in Hinton Provincial Court Sept. 14.

Ross Edward Kleman, 45, will serve a 25 year life sentence in a maximum security prison and will not be eligible for parole for 18 years.

Kleman will be kept in protective custody while serving his sentence but will not have access to rehabilitation and educational programs that other prisoners are entitled to as a result.


If he is ever granted parole he will be prohibited from owning firearms, weapons or explosives for 10 to 20 years and will be permanently barred from owning prohibited weapons.

He will also be required to submit a DNA sample that will be used to identify him on the National Sex Offender Registry for the next 20 years.

A psychiatric assessment ordered by the court showed that he was at a low to moderate risk to re-offend, though the assessor pointed out that she though the risk was likely higher than the test showed due to Kleman's evasiveness and persistence in seeing himself as a victim in life.


The sentence was what both the Crown and defense has asked for.

Throughout the defense and Crown's closing statements and the sentencing, Kleman kept his head bowed, was twitchy at times and wiped away a few tears.

When asked if he had anything he would like to say to the court, he said once again that he was "sorry."

Prior to the sentencing, an agreed statement of facts endorsed by the defense and the Crown was read into the record, recounting the details of the Sept. 27, 2008 events that lead to the death of Edson teen, Emily Joy Stauffer.

Kleman met Stauffer walking on an Edson trail near 17th Ave. at about 5 pm. On that day when he attacked her. He attempted to strangle her with a rope, but when she fought back fiercely he hit her to the ground before cutting her throat.

Two Edson preteens on bicycles came across the attack while it was happening and ran for help.

Both police and EMS crews worked to resuscitate Stauffer but their attempts were unsuccessful.

An autopsy later showed that she died of blood loss from the cut to her neck.

Kleman was originally identified as a suspect by his wife, who has since filed for separation, though he maintained that he had nothing to do with the death at first.

Kleman admitted to killing Stauffer during three different taped confessions after he learned that DNA on weapons found at the site of the murder had samples with both his and Stauffer's genetic material on them.

After this, he entered a plea of guilty to the charge of second degree murder, as well as a charge of sexual interference related to an incident involving the molestation of a five-year-old at his wife's day home.

Stauffer's family did not with to be in the courtroom while the details of her death were recounted but were present to read their victim impact statements to the court and hear the justice's sentence.

Stauffer's mother tearfully told the court that media reports painting her daughter as a perfect angel were untrue and "she was a perfectly ordinary girl."

"She was not a girl who put herself in dangerous situations," she said, adding that the loss has brought fear into the daily life of the family.

"I still don't like leaving my family for the day for fear of what I might find when I return," she said.

But the family has found some shelter from the tragedy through their faith, she said.

"We now belong to a club no one wants to belong to," she said. "The club of parents with buried children."

She said she and her husband have tried to share their faith that has seen them through their loss with other hurting parents.

Stauffer's father also spoke to the court, expressing the daily pain the family still lives with.

He recalled her love of theological discussions and her study of the piano and violin.

"It still seems impossible that Emily was taken from us in such a brutal manner," he said. "I wake up and think she's still with us and I feel a dull ache when I realize she's gone."

"It is just wrong that she was taken from us at such a young age."

Article ID# 2756865
http://www.hintonparklander.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2756865

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Re: Kleman trial to start April 26/2010!! Daily updates & discussion..
« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2010, 11:02:18 AM »
Okay, now that I have had a night to think about this, I am thinking more and more, that even though, the RCMP had all of the evidence, that Kleman had murdered Emily, The Crown, knew, that she could not prove, without a doubt, that Kleman had pre-meditated this crime..I think this is where the plea came in.. All of the evidence pointed to him as a murderer, but the risk of running a trial on FDM charges, could have caused him to be found not guilty of FDM, and he would not have been able to be re-tried on the charges..Going in with a SDM plea bargine, both the crown & defense, knew there was no hope in hell, of Kleman being found not guilty..Thus, a sure way, to get him off the streets, and pay in some way, for his crime. 
Do we as the public agree to the lesser charge, of course not, We want this monster to burn in hell, however, if you look at it from the legal stand point, I would much rather see him in jail for SDM, then to risk him getting off, on lack of evidence proving his premeditation, or lack there of.
 
On the issue, of Kleman being a low Moderate risk to re-offend, I still call BS.. If he could kill a child, in such a horrific way, by as he says, just comming across her, on the walking trail, then what the hell is he capable of, when he gets mad? He will have no access to rehabilitation, due to going into protective custody, so how is this going to change the situation, if and when he is released? Why should he be protected in prison anyway? Did Emily have a chance to be protected from this monster? Once again, the justice system, protects the criminal from harms way..I say, put him in with the General population, and let them take care of this monster..

Prohibited from owning weapons for 10 - 20 years.. Ya okay, tell me, how do so many criminals, get illegal weapons after release, there is no system in place, that really inforces these regulations.. and Kleman has already proved, that he knows how to make his own weapon..and 20 years on the National Sex Offender Registry, no his DNA should be in there for ever..

Okay, there is my rant for now..

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Re: Kleman trial **Raw video: Kleman interrogation Viewer discretion is advised.
« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2010, 04:42:12 PM »
Raw video: Kleman interrogationGlobal News: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:06 PM
RCMP have now released interrogation video of Ross Edward Kleman and investigators on the walking trail where 14-year-old Emily Stauffer was killed. The video released by RCMP was nearly an hour in length. It contains footage of Kleman talking about what he did and felt the day Emily Stauffer died. What we have uploaded to our website is raw, with only the parts where Kleman and the officer are walking silently in the woods edited out. Some viewers may find the contents of this video disturbing. Viewer discretion is advised.
http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/video+Kleman+interrogation/3530451/story.html