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Re: Russell Williams: Timeline
« Reply #1905 on: January 25, 2012, 08:52:18 PM »
I am still curious to know more about the relationship between R. Williams and Paul Bernardo.
They both attended the University of Toronto Scarborough campus. They graduated together in 1987.

Strange coincidence? This article explains more. I never knew RW used to go by another name Russ Sovka at one time?

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/02/11/12845451.html

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« Reply #1906 on: January 26, 2012, 07:02:53 PM »
I don't think there was any substance produced to validate that story.  It's the Sun.  What more can I say?  As a matter of fact RW's good friend had commented that there was no connection and I believe said they didn't know each other. 

RW used his step-father's last name while he was growing up.  He changed back to Williams (his biological father's name) I think when he joined the military.

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« Reply #1907 on: January 26, 2012, 07:34:11 PM »
Schnieder: My personal opinion has always been that everything and everyone that has been touched by him has been injured in some way.

As we raise our children in a good home, and as we attempt to be good parents, who is to say, that one child within a loving family may turn out to be otherwise. 

We do not know why RW turned.

It must be very perplexing to his family, as well as heartwrenching. His family is also suffering and will continue to ask the question. "Why?"
The answer eludes even the so "called experts" in their fields.

The answer must be even larger than any family upbringing, or how he or she was treated by society.   Hopefully, an answer will be forthcoming someday - not only for RW's family, but for other families who are suffering because they too have family members who have become notorious through similar behaviours.

Perhaps, these types cannot ever be nurtured, regardless of their upbring. For some reason, they are wired in such a way that their behaviour cannot ever be stopped.

I place my trust that the  answer lies  within science.

JB
PS: Flowers are sent to the families of victims. Meanwhile the perpetrator's family feel compelled to hide in shame.
Perhaps they too should be given words of comfort and a shoulder to lean upon by caring friends.
Your post leaves me with food for thought!!


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« Last Edit: January 26, 2012, 08:28:56 PM by jellybean »

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Re: Russell Williams: Timeline
« Reply #1908 on: January 26, 2012, 08:07:47 PM »
There are other threads on this site that look at a victim presumablly killed (whose body has never been recovered) at Scarborough U around the Bernardo time that's worth reading. I do not recall her name right now. But writers have looked into whether in fact Bernardo could have killed her. Bernardo was specifically asked about this murder victim in an interview you can find on youtube if you google his name on youtube and he gives the most evasive answer ending in no he did not! There is quite a bit of compelling evidence that Bernardo might have been the killer though people assume he was a rapist and not a murderder at that given time.

Knowing what we know now, we might add Williams to the speculative list though he might have moved on by then. There are a few threads on this site checking out, including a murder victim who was killed in a northern highway locale that Bernardo frequented as well although some say he had an alibi for that one.

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Re: Russell Williams: Timeline
« Reply #1909 on: January 27, 2012, 04:34:07 AM »
I just saw on the news header that the Lloyd Family is now sueing Williams.   Good for them, I was hoping they would.

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« Reply #1910 on: January 27, 2012, 09:05:20 AM »
http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3450756

Lloyd family suing Williams, wife


By Luke Hendry, The Intelligencer

Posted 15 hours ago


LUKE HENDRY

The Intelligencer

The family and estate of murder victim Jessica Lloyd are seeking $4 million in damages from her killer — former air force colonel Russell Williams — and his estranged wife.

A statement of claim by Lloyd’s mother and elder brother, Roxanne and Andy Lloyd, was filed Thursday in Belleville’s Ontario Superior Court of Justice. The document is also filed by Roxanne Lloyd as trustee of her daughter’s estate.

It names both Williams and his wife, who under a publication ban can be named only as M.E.H. Lawyers for both could not be reached Thursday for comment. No statements of defence have been filed.

Saturday marks the two-year anniversary of Williams’ abduction of Lloyd, 27, from her home just north of Belleville on Hwy. 37.

With that in mind, said Andy Lloyd, the family is hoping for the quickest resolution possible for the civil case.

 “We just want to get it over and done with,” Lloyd told The Intelligencer. “We just want it in the past.”

The Lloyds are represented by Belleville lawyer Mike Pretsell.

“My office will not be providing comment to the media with respect to this matter as long as it is before the courts,” Pretsell wrote in a brief press release issued Thursday.

A copy of the statement of claim was obtained by The Intelligencer.


The Lloyds claim $1 million in damages for infliction of mental suffering, sexual assault, aggravated assault and battery.

They also make claims for $1 million each for special, aggravated and punitive damages.

Anything may be alleged in a statement of claim; its contents have not been proven in court.

The claim alleges that a March 2010 transfer by Williams to M.E.H. of assets — their Ottawa home — was fraudulent.

M.E.H. and Williams are each being sued for “transferring and/or disposing of assets” illegally, it claims.

The family and estate are suing Williams alone for the crimes against Jessica Lloyd, according to the document.

Williams was pleaded guilty in October 2010 to killing Lloyd and Cpl. Marie-France Comeau, 37, of Brighton. He also pleaded guilty to sexual attacks on two Tweed women and to a years-long series of break-ins and fetish thefts in the Ottawa, Tweed and Belleville areas.

He is now serving life in prison.

The Lloyds’ statement of claim notes Jessica “was sexually assaulted and held hostage for a period of 19 hours before her death.”

It recounts how her mother, Roxanne, received a telephone call on the morning of Jan. 29, 2010 from someone at Tri-Board Student Transportation Services, the school bus company for which Jessica worked.

The claim then details the family’s “painful, frantic search” for Jessica. Rushing to Jessica’s home, her mother found Jessica’s purse and car but no clue as to her whereabouts, according to the statement of claim.

Police, family and friends launched an extensive search.

Roxanne and Andy learned Feb. 7 from police that Jessica’s body had been found and — later — that Williams was in custody.

During Williams’ sentencing hearing, the court heard Williams had confessed that day to the murders.

The civil claim notes the Lloyds were present for the hearing “and heard excruciating details” of Jessica’s fate.

“The defendant Williams sexually, emotionally and mentally abused, assaulted and traumatized Jessica Lloyd and inflicted mental suffering upon her prior to her death,” reads the claim.

It refers to the widespread news coverage of the criminal case and how the Lloyds have had to endure repeated reminders of Jessica’s assault and death.

The Lloyds claim they have developed post-traumatic stress disorder, acute distress disorder, suicidal thoughts, substance dependency and many other conditions that have limited their “opportunity to experience a normal adult life.”

 “As a consequence of the defendant Williams’ actions, the plaintiffs will require extensive therapy and medical attention,” according to the claim.

The document also makes a claim for Jessica Lloyd’s estate for the loss of income she would have earned during her life.

Andy Lloyd has said he and his mother have each returned to work full-time.

Their civil suit will be tried in Belleville. No court date has been set.

Civil cases can take years to resolve.

“It’s up to the courts,” Lloyd said Thursday. “There’s really not much I can say.”

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Re: Russell Williams: Timeline
« Reply #1911 on: February 04, 2012, 09:07:17 PM »
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Feb. 03, 2012 – The City of St. John's is truly one of the most unique destinations you will ever visit! It is the oldest city in North America and will be the backdrop to the 50th annual International Association of Women Police (IAWP) training conference.

Hosted by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) and Royal Newfoundland Constabulary (RNC), the conference will be held at the Delta Hotel and Conference Centre Sept. 09 - 13, 2012

...The itinerary includes a series of internationally renowned speakers including:...
....• Detective Inspector Chris Nicholas: Ontario Provincial Police. Detective Inspector Nicholas will present an overview of the investigation and conviction of Canadian Armed Forces ex-Col Russell Williams, a serial murderer.

For conference information visit: http://www.iawp2012.org

Source:  http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/nl/news-nouvelles/releases-communiques/12-02-03-152220-eng.htm

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« Reply #1912 on: February 08, 2012, 05:04:13 PM »
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Killer+wife+seek+stay+court+decision+divorce+proceedings/6122457/story.html


Killer's wife won't seek stay of court decision on divorce proceedings

 By Robert Sibley, Postmedia News February 8, 2012 3:29 PM
OTTAWA — The wife of serial sex killer Russell Williams has decided not to seek a stay of a recent court decision rejecting her legal appeal to prevent media coverage of her intended divorce proceedings.

Two weeks ago, in a decision that has widespread implications for why and when judges impose publication bans, the Ontario Court of Appeal rejected Mary Elizabeth Harriman's months-long legal effort to keep her name and certain aspects of her financial affairs from being made public when she files for a divorce from Williams.

The three-member appeal panel expressed sympathy for her as "another victim of Williams' depravity," but concluded that her concerns for her mental well-being — should knowledge of her personal situation and financial affairs become public — cannot take precedence over the necessity of keep court proceedings as open and accessible as possible. The ruling overturned a lower court's previous granting of the publication ban.

Normally, such a ruling would have taken effect immediately, but the Appeal Court delayed the imposition of its decision for 14 days to give Williams' wife the opportunity to seek a stay of the Court of Appeal's decision to allow her to seek leave to appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada.

That stay period expired at midnight Monday without her having taken advantage of the Appeal Court's offer, thus setting aside the lower court's non-publication and sealing orders, and allowing the media to report her name and that of her employer, the Heart and Stroke Foundation. The foundation and its employees have indicated full support for Harriman.

It has taken nearly a year to reach this point. In April, Ontario Superior Court Justice Jennifer Mackinnon granted Harriman's request for a publication ban and sealing order on a divorce application she intended to file. Divorce proceedings are generally a matter of public record, but Mackinnon's ruling would have prevented the reporting of almost everything pertaining to the divorce action, including Harriman's name, address, contact information, the name of her employer, her income and expenses and some medical information, as well as a domestic contract with Williams that had been drawn up just weeks after he was charged.

The Appeal Court rejected Mackinnon's ruling, and her reasoning. In a written judgment on behalf of the appeal panel, Justice David Doherty said Mackinnon had been "unreasonable" in thinking such bans were necessary to prevent a serious risk to the proper administration of justice.

"Purely personal interests cannot justify non-publication or sealing orders," Doherty said. "The centrality of freedom of expression and the open court principle of both Canadian democracy and individual freedoms in Canada demand that a party seeking to limit freedom of expression and the openness of the courts carry a significant legal and evidentiary burden."

Williams, a former colonel in the Royal Canadian Air Force and the one-time base commander at Canadian Forces Base Trenton, was sentenced to life in prison in October 2010 after being convicted for multiple counts of sexual assault, forcible confinement and breaking-and-entering, as well as the torture, rape and murders of Jessica Lloyd and Marie-France Comeau.

The Appeal Court's decision agreed with arguments put forward by the lawyer acting on behalf of the Ottawa Citizen and the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, the two appellants seeking to overturn Mackinnon's publication ban. At the time of the Appeal Court's decision, Ottawa Citizen lawyer Rick Dearden referred to the ruling as a victory for press freedom.

"There is a huge public interest in knowing how the court is going to divide up Russell Williams' assets and what is going to be left for his victims to seek a judgment against if they win their lawsuits," he said in reference to various legal actions filed by Williams' victims against him and his wife. "There is a major public interest in knowing what the court orders happens to Williams' military pension in this divorce which could be worth $1 million."


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Re: Russell Williams: Timeline
« Reply #1914 on: March 22, 2012, 09:19:51 AM »
yep thats not a good sign...when even the worst murderers don't want to be in the same prison as you.

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« Reply #1915 on: March 22, 2012, 04:15:22 PM »
Personally, I'd think they all deserve each other's company.

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« Reply #1916 on: March 22, 2012, 05:20:14 PM »
Don't you feel for the people that have to earn a living looking after these sick puppies?

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« Reply #1917 on: March 22, 2012, 10:16:54 PM »
Has Russel W moved even closer to Bernardo with that cell now cleared out? Media reported that Bernardo had shaved off every bit of hair from his body on the very first day of his incarceration. 

I once posted in reference to Williams reuniting with his old school mate Bernardo:
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=3211.msg45928;topicseen#msg45928
 
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As Williams was en route to the penitentiary that houses notorious sex killer Paul Bernardo, the military wasted no time in declaring he'll be removed from the Canadian Forces.

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Reunited at last, maybe this is the root of Williams problem. His secret homo sexual lover/ soul mate Paul Bernardo was taken away and Willians missed him soo much he orchestrated their reunion. No children to miss him back at home, the pretend wife has her cat to keep her company. What a love story.. Sorry, just too sickened by the whole affair and the mere prospect that he could be released again someday.
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« Reply #1918 on: March 23, 2012, 12:58:33 PM »
To quote the article:


Wills, a 25-year veteran of the Toronto police, was found guilty in 2007 of killing his mistress Linda Mariani in 2002 because she wouldn't leave her husband for him. The woman's badly decomposed body was found in a garbage bin four months later behind a false wall in Wills' basement.
 
His appeal of the conviction was rejected last June, the Toronto Sun reported.
 
Prisoners in Kingston's segregation wing can't see one another but can talk with each other, the Star said.
 
During his trial, Wills frequently interrupted court proceedings by loudly passing gas and belching, among other things. At one point the trial had to be stopped when he reached into his pants and pulled out feces.
 
The Star said Wills also made a habit of urinating in the police car that took him to court. On days when his behaviour was particularly disruptive, the judge banished him from the courtroom to watch proceedings via video.
 
During his trial he fired five taxpayer-funded defence lawyers, aimed sexist barbs at the female judge and threatened to punch out the prosecutors.
 
A former prisoner at the jail where he was held during his trial said Wills was tormented by other inmates.
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I am wondering if that is why he was transferred? A 25 year veteran cop - it is shocking!! - How did he last that long on the cop force?  Unbelievable!! Wills is going to present a problem for prison guards wherever he is sent.


If I recall, Williams was a neat freak, and had this thing with cleanliness. This would bother Williams (Wills behaviour, ie' burping, letting off gas, throwing feces, etc., especially in such close quarters!!) ;D
I guess Wills didn't pass the "smell test" with Williams.  LOL

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« Reply #1919 on: March 23, 2012, 01:48:55 PM »
Too bad they moved him, why did they move him? Seemed the perfect cell mate for R.W.

 

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