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Calgary serial killer: 1990's - 5 victims
« on: November 05, 2009, 11:27:25 AM »
The list of unsolved murders in this set are:

Jennifer Janz, who disappeared in July 1991;
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,1004.0.html

Jennifer Joyes, who disappeared a month later;
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,1003.0.html
 
Keely Pincott, who disappeared three months later;
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,1006.0.html

Tracey Maunder, who went missing in October 1992;
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,1002.0.html
and http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,3084.0.html

Rebecca Boutelier, who disappeared in February 1993.
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,1001.0.html


From Des- see:
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,483.0.html

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In a 19-month period in the early 1990s, all five women, including four prostitutes, disappeared and their bodies were later found dumped around the city outskirts.
Then suddenly the killings stopped -- and there have been no more prostitute murders in Calgary for the last six years.  Police believe it's possible one of the potential suspects for the killings was jailed for another murder -- but he's not confessing to any more.
 The five unsolved murders are of Jennifer Janz, who disappeared in July 1991; Jennifer Joyes, who disappeared a month later; Keely Pincott, who disappeared three months later; Tracey Maunder, who went missing in October 1992; and Rebecca Boutelier, who disappeared in February 1993.
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Re: Calgary serial killer: 1990 - 5 victims
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 12:01:54 PM »
I suppose the obvious question is:  Who went to jail for a similar murder around the time these murders stopped?  There's also the possibility the killer fell ill (thus was put out of commission) or even died.

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 12:29:17 PM »
Rebecca's case link (above) has the name of a potential suspect. Convicted rapist.. Not sure if he was incarcerated around the time the murders quit or not..

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Re: Calgary serial killer: 1990 - 5 victims
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 03:43:25 PM »
Barry Thomas Nidermier faced charges on more than a dozen assaults on seven Vancouver prosititutes from 1995 to 1997....he was 43 at the time.

He was sentenced to 5 yrs. and released April 11, 2007....50 years old.

So he only served time (too little time) for assaults over a two-year period.

Seems to me, the same culprit was outright killing STW until he started to "pimp them out himself"....then he was eventually charged with serious assaults on the same.  One could assume, he stopped outright killing when he realized he could control and profit instead.

One can also assume this is a good place to start looking if any DNA evidence was salvaged from any of these girls and others.

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 09:44:54 PM »
Good question, was there DNA. If so what became of the DNA and why hasn't it been matched? Apparently there is just this one suspect. The guy is in the system. The latest news says that he is out and has moved again but no one is being told where!
from- http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,1001.15.html

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Now that Niedermier has moved away, the RCMP where he has relocated will be faced with the same decision as to whether or not to warn the public, Webb said.

To date, there has been no further releases regarding Niedermier?s whereabouts.
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Re: Calgary serial killer: 1990 - 5 victims
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 11:28:06 AM »
Whether or not to warn the public??

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April 27, 2000 - Barry Thomas Niedermier - The Calgary Police Service said they were looking into possible links between Barry Thomas Niedermier and the unsolved deaths of at least two local young women. The first victim was of 16-year-old street urchin named Jennifer Janz whose badly beaten body was discovered in the Valley Ridge area of northwest Calgary on August 13, 1991. The second was Rebecca Boutilier, 20-year-old prostitute who was found stabbed to death March 11, 1993.

He is suspected in murders going back to the 70"s.

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BARRY THOMAS NIEDERMIER

Classification: Serial killer
Arrested: April 26, 2000
No. Victims: Unknown
Victim Profile: Prostitutes
Method of Murder: Unknown
Fetish: Brutal sexual assaults on women
Location: Edmonton, Calgary & Vancouver
 

A convicted pimp who has been described as a person of interest in connection with missing prostitutes in Vancouver's Downtown Eastside has been arrested in Lethbridge, Alberta. Barry Thomas Niedermier, 43, faces 15 assault charges in connection with the brutal sexual assaults from 1995 to 1997 against seven prostitutes working in downtown Vancouver.

The Vancouver Sun quoted unidentified sources saying that Niedermier is also being questioned by police in Edmonton and Calgary about their own missing prostitute cases. In Calgary, police have been investigating the disappearance of a number of prostitutes in the late 1970s and 1980s. Constable Anne Drennans of the Vancouver police said Niedermier, who was living in Vancouver in 1995-97, is well known to both Vancouver and Lethbridge police.

"It was as part of the investigation into the missing women that information about Niedermier was received," said Drennan. "There has been no link identified with the missing prostitutes, but we would call him a person of interest and we will be wanting to speak to him at length about the missing women's file." Niedermier was sentenced in 1990 to 14 months in prison for pimping a 14-year-old girl who he brought from Calgary to Vancouver

NO DNA FOUND IN ANY OF THESE CASES???
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 12:11:40 PM »
[quote authorNiedermier was sentenced in 1990 to 14 months in prison for pimping a 14-year-old girl who he brought from Calgary to
Vancouver[/quote]

It is now called Human trafficking.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 12:27:47 PM »
Sleuth; you are so right.  .....and right now, my mood is .....do these girls, woman and children have loved ones?...... when they know for sure who had their hands on their child, how can they not hunt the creep down?  I mean it's not as though they are trying to take down a gang etc. in some cases, it's one definite animal. 
I can't help but "quote" your favorite quote:
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke 1789

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Re: Calgary serial killer: 1990's - 5 victims
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2011, 09:30:22 PM »
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Something to keep in mind is that these 'Animals' sometimes traveled in packs.... Not just going up against them, but their cousins, bros, 'wifeys', and other random 'friends'.....

BOTH Jennifers were amazing girls and were talked about up to 5 years after their deaths in the hallways of jr. and sr. high schools. I know that their legacy of being taken too soon left an emptiness in a lot of peoples hearts. It also DID go a long way in helping to deter some young girls from a life on the streets. In no way am I stating that either Jennifer WAS a prostitute.

** Also keep in mind how hard the Vice unit worked to deport a lot of these b@stards, some DID get back in to Canada, some never left due to high priced lawyers, some were never convicted due to either the disappearance of the young girl or intimidation. 'Wifeys' were never watched close enough when pimps were removed from the situation and/or there was always another young girl moving up the ranks ready to rat out seeing someone who has left, is thinking about leaving, or talking to a cop... Calgary is huge now, but in the early 90's, everyone in one way or another knew everyone.....
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Re: Calgary serial killer: 1990's - 5 victims
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2012, 01:53:26 AM »
Is this guy still out?
Even if he is now older that doesn't nessecarily mean he has stopped, even now. Most serial killers don't stop killing until they have been caught or die. Especially since his rap sheet goes back to the 70's

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Re: Calgary serial killer: 1990's - 5 victims
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2012, 12:03:26 PM »
Sleuth -[quote authorNiedermier was sentenced in 1990 to 14 months in prison for pimping a 14-year-old girl who he brought from Calgary to
Vancouver[/quote]

I believe he was sentenced to 6-8 years sometime 2002 or so, multiple rapes. He was released and relocated to Vulcan Alberta with a dangerous offender alert circulated. Several years later he claimed that the warning had interfered with his ability to start a new life. He was again relocated somewhere apparently only the Police know of and with no warnings or alerts issued to that community. 

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Re: Calgary serial killer: 1990's - 5 victims
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2012, 12:36:45 PM »
That is such bull they should always update where convicted killers are released. He threw his life away when he killed.

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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2012, 12:57:43 PM »
He was only named, suspected, in some of those murders, never convicted. His convictions were all for rape as far as we have been told. Still bull that he can be relocated like that to walk around anonymously his identity almost being protected by the Police now. I'd bet there was publication ban on disclosure even if anyone knew. Watch for a cluster of rapes and maybe murders of young women for potential relocation spots. jmo.

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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2012, 01:04:14 PM »
That's sad. He could be in saskatoon (where I live) and I would never know. If even one more person is harmed at the hands of this man the police better be ready to be grilled.

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2012, 08:30:48 PM »
That's an interesting thought KrohDaddi. I wonder if police have looked down that avenue as well as it's worth a try and could be correct.