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End 2-for-1 custody credit, Manitoba, Alberta urge
« on: September 30, 2009, 12:28:39 PM »
Finally this ridiculous law is being challenged. And I hope Mr HARPER, you are listening because YOUR voters are listening and waiting for an outcome that should not take years, and years to settle. Quit Political game playing with victims and their families and friends. Justice should mean justice! For those of you who live in Manitoba and Alberta I plead with you to write your MP to help with pushing
Bill C-25 through ASAP. Which means that little Torri's killers, and other killers will have to stay in prison longer!

By CBC News,, Updated: September 30, 2009 12:55 PM
End 2-for-1 custody credit, Manitoba, Alberta urge

The Manitoba and Alberta governments are urging the federal government to halt the practice of granting sentenced criminals two-for-one credit for time spent in pretrial custody.

Manitoba Attorney General Dave Chomiak and his Alberta counterpart, Alison Redford, will appear before a Senate committee in Ottawa on Thursday, calling on the upper house to quickly pass Bill C-25.

"The granting of credit for time served at the two-for-one rate or higher is overly generous to offenders and has become inconsistent with the objectives of the justice system," Chomiak said Wednesday. "The amendments in Bill C-25 will ensure that individuals guilty of crimes serve a sentence that more accurately reflects the severity of those crimes."

Chomiak said the two-for-one credit might actually encourage offenders to delay their court cases as long as possible.

In the last 10 years, there has been a dramatic shift across the country in the proportion of inmates in provincial institutions that are on remand status, compared with those who have been sentenced, he said.

Current Criminal Code provisions dealing with pretrial credit have no guidelines or limits on the amount of credit that a judge may grant.

That has permitted the practice of courts granting two-for-one credit, which means offenders who have been detained in pretrial custody and are convicted have their jail sentences reduced by two days for every day spent in pretrial custody, according to a joint release from Chomiak and Redford.

In some cases, even higher credits of three or four days for every day served have been granted, the release said.

"This one change can have a huge impact and we are appearing before the Senate committee to urge it and all members of the Senate to pass Bill C-25 quickly," Chomiak said.


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Re: End 2-for-1 custody credit, Manitoba, Alberta urge
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2009, 01:06:30 AM »
Good job! This is stupid.


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New law ends 2-for-1 credit on jail sentences
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 08:30:25 PM »
Can someone pass me the mustard for that baloney? The title is misleading. The Government only cut it down 1.5 to 1. Can the Government not get anything right.........

 By CBC News,, Updated: October 23, 2009 8:12 PM
New law ends 2-for-1 credit on jail sentences
Federal legislation limiting the amount of credit prisoners can get for time spent in custody before and during their trial received royal assent Friday.

Up to now, it has been common practice among judges to reduce prison sentences by two days for each day a person spent in jail while awaiting trial and sentencing. In rare cases, the ratio was 3-to-1 if their detention conditions were deemed particularly difficult.

The new legislation provides that as a general rule, the amount of credit for time served will be capped at a ratio of 1-to-1.

It will permit judges to give credit at a maximum ratio of 1.5-to-1 only when circumstances justify it, and they will be required to explain what those circumstances are.

No change in the 1-to-1 ratio will be allowed under any circumstances for people who have violated bail conditions or who have been denied bail because of their criminal record.

The legislation "better reflects truth in sentencing and gives Canadians greater confidence that justice is being served," Justice Minister Rob Nicholson said in a release.

Enhanced credit for time spent in pre-sentencing custody became a common practice to compensate for conditions such as overcrowded detention facilities, the lack of programs or activities for inmates and the fact that the time did not count toward their eventual eligibility for parole or statutory release.

However, the Justice Ministry said the generous 2-to-1 ratio is partly responsible for an ever-increasing number of accused being remanded without bail, to the point where the number of people now in pre-sentencing custody exceeds the number of prisoners actually serving sentences.

The ministry said federal, provincial and territorial working groups that looked at the issue determined that limiting credit for time served before sentencing was one way to reduce the size of remand populations.


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Re: End 2-for-1 custody credit, Manitoba, Alberta urge
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2009, 12:16:02 PM »
Not really. We have to remember that these people have only been charged with a crime. Aparently, as high a number as 1 in 10 or more people charged are not convicted or had nothing to do with the alleged crime. Why should these people be in jail for any length of time without substantial credit or compensation.  The charge by police means nothing, even less as the years go by. Their credibility is sorely lacking considering cases like Truscott to Unger and dozens of others. Remember, it is better that a 100 criminals go free than on innocent person be incarcerated. I can't even imagine what that hell would be like to be incarcerated for something a crime not done.