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Re: Re: Natalee Ann Holloway
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2010, 11:06:20 PM »
I watch Greata sometimes, and she always updates this case.

It is amazing at this point, that in the dutch system, a case like this cannot go to trial. I mean, they have this guy admitting it, then changing his story, then admitting it again, changing his story etc etc.

Give the case to a jury. I know there is no body, obviously it wlil never be found.

Maybe the fear of being convicted will cause one of those 2 friends to finally come clean.

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« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2010, 01:37:20 PM »
www.koudbloed.nl

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Seems there will be no trial, not enough evidence after all. Aruba LE has managed to solve some of their "missing" problems but none from out of country, all of whom disappeared under strange circumstances and one especially after an argument about not having been given options he paid for in advance.
Aruba tourism has made a statement they prefer visitors from Europe over Americans anyway, b/c people from Europe bring more money to spend and stay longer.
Stories I've been given by American ex-pats living in Aruba permanently...it's all about Insurance money, that some disappeared themselves and now living in VZ enjoying their Insurance reapings.  ::) Really now Aruba?? That sounds pretty lame!!

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« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2010, 12:19:27 AM »
From 2008

KELLY:(lawyer for Holloways)   I mean, there have been all kinds of things. There are phone logs there. I've asked for the surveillance tapes from the casinos. I haven't gotten them. I've asked him to review them. He hasn't gotten back to me on those. I've asked for phone records. I haven't gotten those. I've asked for backup on witness interviews. I haven't gotten those.

VAN SUSTEREN: Anything to sort of piece together to see whether or not this is true or not, the surveillance video -- what surveillance video do you want him to look at?

KELLY: Well, for starters, if you recall -- and it was sort of pushed aside by the law enforcement also, when Joran is sitting in the Excelsior casino with Natalee and her friends, there's a middle-aged Caucasian gentlemen sitting there who actually speaks to Natalee and the other girls. And I just want to know -- you know, he absolutely fits the description of the man Joran describes. He actually looks a lot like Paulus, too.

And I just want to see whether he had talked to that man before the girls arrived, whether he talked to that man after the girls left. And quite remarkably, Hans Mos told me they've never even identified who that man is to this day.

VAN SUSTEREN: Does Hans Mos want to help investigate Deepak and Satish and Paulus or not?

KELLY: No. In fact, the first call I made to him, he said -- he asked if this had anything to do with the Dr. Phil litigation, and if it did, he would not help me because he totally supports Satish and Deepak.

above are snips from

Fallout From Joran van der Sloot's 'On the Record' Interview
 Wednesday, November 26, 2008
(for which he received 10,000. dollars. He actually approached Greta to sell his story for bucks)
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Aruba is hoping the case just goes away. All of the Prosecutors who have come on board, start with great zeal to solve the case and then peter out. Aruba is more concerned with their tourism dollars.

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Re: Re: Natalee Ann Holloway
« Reply #48 on: May 30, 2010, 11:15:14 AM »
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5 Years since Natalee Holloway vanished in Aruba

Posted : May 30, 2010 9:36 AM

It's been five years since Natalee Holloway was last seen leaving a local bar in Aruba.

The teenager from Alabama was vacationing with friends when she disappeared the night before she was supposed to fly home.

Search teams and volunteers relentlessly scoured the island trying to find out what happened to Holloway on the night of her disappearance. She was last seen leaving a bar with a dutch boy, Joran Van-der-Sloot, and his two friends.

Aruban authorities took Van-der-Sloot and his friends into custody, but all three were eventually released.

Over the past five years, Van-der-Sloot has told differing accounts of what happened the night Holloway disappeared.

Her mother, Beth, is still hoping for new information explaining what really happened to her daughter and is opening a resource center to help families of other missing individuals.

http://www.newsfirst5.com/news/5-years-since-natalee-holloway-vanished-in-aruba/

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Re: Natalee Ann Holloway
« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2010, 01:18:30 AM »
Joran van der Sloot is a psychopath with an entitlement complex. He's also a big Baby who cries to momma after killing a woman that the Police are rude to him. Here's a Kleenex van der Sloot, suck it up and take your punishment like a man. Momma can't help you when big ol' Bubba asks you to bend over to pick up his soap in the very near future.   

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Re: Natalee Ann Holloway
« Reply #50 on: June 11, 2010, 05:04:36 PM »
 
Dutchman to reveal info on missing US teen
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LIMA (AFP) - A Dutchman charged with the murder of a Peruvian woman will tell police where to find the body of a US teen who disappeared in Aruba in 2005, a senior Peruvian police investigator said Friday.
 
General Cesar Guardia, who is leading the investigation into Joran Van der Sloot's role in the murder of the Peruvian woman, said the Dutch citizen had let slip that he knew the whereabouts of 18-year-old American Natalee Holloway.

But Van der Sloot told Peruvian police that he would only "talk about the matter with Aruban authorities," Guardia told AFP.

"It is what he said and it did not appear in the investigation documents because it was not revealed during an interrogation," he added.

"He revealed it... during an informal conversation," Guardia said. "He said he knew where the young American is."

Earlier Guardia told US network ABC that Van der Sloot had agreed to provide information about the case, which attracted huge media attention in the United States, the Caribbean and Europe, but was never solved.

"Yes, Joran is ready to discuss this whenever officials from Aruba can come to Peru," he said.

Van der Sloot, 22, was charged Friday with first-degree murder in connection with the May 30 death of 21-year-old Stephany Flores who was found beaten to death in his Lima hotel room.

Lima Judge Juan Buendia ordered that he "be prosecuted as the perpetrator of the alleged crimes of first-degree murder and simple theft," court spokesman Luis Gallardo told AFP.

Earlier, prosecutor Ninfa Espinosa had urged that Van der Sloot be detained on the charges and accused him of having carried out the alleged crime "with the aggravating factors of ferocity and cruelty."


After the charges were announced, he was transferred to the Castro Castro prison in Lima surrounded by security officials and journalists and a crowd that screamed "die murderer" and "pay for murdering" at him.

A police source told media here that Van der Sloot has confessed to killing Flores in his hotel room on May 30 in a fit of rage, saying she used his laptop without permission.

Van der Sloot has long been a prime suspect in the 2005 disappearance of Holloway, who went missing after a night of drinking with him on the Caribbean island of Aruba.

The son of a prominent judge, Van der Sloot was twice arrested in connection with Holloway's disappearance and spent three months in jail but was never charged.

In quotes released by Peruvian authorities, Van der Sloot said he was motivated to kill Flores after she used his computer and saw information online linking him to the Holloway case.

"She had no right" to see the laptop, he said, according to police. "I approached her, she was frightened. We discussed it and she tried to escape. I grabbed her by the neck and hit her."

The US Federal Bureau of Investigation came under fire this week after reports that it missed an opportunity to arrest him last month, prior to the Peru murder.

It was investigating the Dutch citizen for criminal conduct after he offered information on Holloway's disappearance in exchange for some 250,000 dollars.

FBI agents met with him in Aruba and he reportedly accepted sting money, committed wire fraud and made incriminating statements about Holloway's death during the meeting, which was recorded.

But he was allowed to go free, and made his way to Peru and then to Chile, where he was finally arrested on June 3 in connection with Flores's death.


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Re: Natalee Ann Holloway
« Reply #51 on: June 11, 2010, 09:21:51 PM »
This is nothing against fishermen....but this is an analogy.

You know how fisherman go to different lakes to catch the prize fish, or get a trophy fish.

Well, I think this creep, travelled from country to country, baiting himself a young beautiful woman, murdering her, and bonus when he gets her money, but he probably has a map with little flags on it meaning to him, he trophied himself a catch. He may be a bored rich kid, who found himself a reality TV hobby. This is sick and twisted, but this fellow likes the television exposure, and he is sick and twisted.

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Re: Natalee Ann Holloway
« Reply #52 on: June 12, 2010, 05:54:06 PM »
Vandersloot has said that he hoped they never found Natalee's body and there is a reason for that. He knows they will never find her body, because he knows what he has done. He is a brutal cold blooded killer, who just preyed on young women. Well he is in a place now and it looked to me that the men in this prison make him look like a midget. He will finally get some of his own medicine handed out. The police are also checking to see if there are any other young women missing in some of the places he's been. The creep is finally behind bars. ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

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Re: Natalee Ann Holloway
« Reply #53 on: June 12, 2010, 08:47:35 PM »
How many murders have gone unnoticed?

What if, just what if...(I have mentioned this before) the family (father/mother) had hired a special cleaning crew. (Mafia type) This cleaning crew cleans up his murders, and gets rid of the evidence. Maybe this time, they didn't come as quick, because his father is dead. Maybe this creep doesn't know where Natalee's body is, if there was a cleaning crew cleaning up after him....

This has been known to happen, all over the world!

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Re: Natalee Ann Holloway
« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2010, 10:13:29 AM »
Baba, I do believe he was afraid they would find Natalee, because of how she died. That was kind of the way he spoke in that video that I saw him on, he seemed actually afraid that they would find her. He has told so many lies, but he did say that she was put in the ocean. A terrible tragedy to happen to a family, like yourself, living with the tragedy until the day you take your last breath. One cannot forget and can only pray for some peace of mind to get through the days ahead. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Natalee Ann Holloway
« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2010, 11:01:03 AM »
Psychopath Meets Hitman, MSNBC, The Today Show

Joran is sharing a cell with two other guys, and is isolated from the general population due to concerns for his safety. He has befriend a hitman in prison who he calls "Hitman" and Hitman calls Joran "Psychopath". According to prison officials, Joran still has an appetite and the prison officials say he is sociable and doesn't appear to be a violent guy.

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2010/06/jailmate-of-joran-hes-psychopath.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+EyesForLies+%28Eyes+for+Lies+Blog%29&utm_content=Twitter

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Re: Natalee Ann Holloway
« Reply #56 on: June 17, 2010, 12:49:45 PM »
Joran is a murderer of women.....a coward....Nancy Grace briefly alludes to 2 other murders of women in casinos in South America, that are unsolved.   I believe in Columbia, but may be wrong.  No other details yet either.

The only reason he is admitting to killing Stephany is that the authorities  have video footage, and his blood stained clothes.  He knows he is backed into a corner...this time there is evidence.    Seems to me on that video of him returning to the room with coffee's he is debating whether or not to have the maid discover Stephany's body when she unlocks the door for him.  He changed his mind...went in the room, and tried to figure out what to do next, since Stephany was dead before he went for coffees.  That's when he decided to skip the country...after all he has gotten away with it before.

I am not surprised he is more willing to tell the truth re: Natalee, he is trying his best not to stay incarcerated in Peru (apparantly it's hell)

This has to be so heartbreaking for Natalee's family as well as Stephany's....

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Re: Natalee Ann Holloway
« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2010, 08:19:37 PM »
Vandersloot's mother is still defending him. His father got him out of every scrape he ever got into. If they had not covered up for him for all the times  he was in trouble since he was a child, this would never have happened. Vandersloot is not mentally ill, he is an out of control person that thinks he can get whatever he wants, whenever he wants it. I just hope that she doesn't think he is going to get away with these murders and who knows how many more, by using the "mentally ill" plea. This is not going to work, so she might as well sit up straight and face the music and stop this making excuses for Joran. His days of lies and deceit are finally over. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Natalee Ann Holloway
« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2010, 10:44:24 AM »
Here are some pictures of the Stephany Flores murder scene. Crime scene photos were obtained by 48 hours.

WARNING: some pictures may be disturbing to some people.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10003848.html?tag=page