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Re: Kevin Wesley Martin
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2010, 07:59:39 PM »
Lost, I am just wondering about these accused men in this crime. I wonder if they would be in the area at the time of Troy Cook's disappearance. Troy was last seen on a street in Truro as he made a phone call and disappeared without a trace???????

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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2010, 08:41:41 PM »
Cape, Troy Cook disappeared June 12, 1998.  The time frame is right is it was the same culprit who killed all three.  If I were Keven Martin's family, and/or Troy Cook's family, I would be asking the police to search that same area for another body.  Strange two bodies dumped in the same type of backwoods area out of Burnside.

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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2010, 09:24:28 PM »
I just got brave a sent this out.  I hope the Truro Police don't take offense. :-\


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Copy of: This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.town.truro.ns.ca/ from: <maryment75@hotmail.com> I apologize in advance if you people have already considered the possibily of Mac Donald being responsible for either of these boy's disappearance/death. I just get so frustrated watching these cases in limbo, I figure it only takes a minute to run it past you. I know you are doing your best in these two cases with probably little to go on. Once in a while, somebody posts a remark that makes one wonder "Do the police realize this?" Thank you for your time Sergeant.Here's the information I'm referring to. http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,2680.0.html Respectfully yours,
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Re: Kevin Wesley Martin
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2010, 08:16:21 AM »
The locations are not in a very close proximity to one another (Burnside and Upper Stewiacke) Approx. 50 minutes apart or 100 km. 
 I don't believe Troy Cook's disappearance is related to either Kevin Martin's or Hazel Ann Oleksiew's.  Not unimaginable, though unlikely.

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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2010, 03:41:20 PM »
Zhuk; where I see the likelihood, is the fact that MacDonald was more than familiar with shortcuts, backroads, and alternate routes.  This is clearly evident in the murder he is now in prison for.  It is also a very similar scenario to this boy's murder.  Think about it; Kevin ran into somebody like MacDonald.... no doubt about that.  I find it a coincidence that he dumped a body (what looks like) on the way "home" eastward after he got carried away and murdered.  It seems as likely a scenario as any.  What do you theorize could have become of Kevin Martin then?  I'm open to suggestion here.  There's just not enough ideas coming forth on Kevin's case.  How can it be solved if nobody is willing to try and figure it out?  How about some "input" since you're here, my friend.

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Re: Kevin Wesley Martin
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2010, 08:39:26 PM »
I am a relative of Kevin, and it's horrible beyond belief that this has not been solved. Someone somewhere knows something. His mother even says that the family has suspicions yet nothing has been done with that information! There has been whispers in the family about who may have committed this murder, but nothing has ever materialized over that either. Kevin needs justice, and the Pictou County RCMP needs to to figure this out, and solve this horrific crime. Kevin did not deserve this and his cold blooded killer does not deserve to get away with it. RIP in Kevin! Never forget hanging out as kids, and you coming over to my place, to " just get away"

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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2010, 09:03:07 PM »
Welcome Resident323,
Maybe you could help add a little more information to help out.That is if you don't mind.

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Re: Kevin Wesley Martin
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2010, 07:17:51 AM »
call in those tips anonymously to crime stoppers. anon tips are given a little bit more credibility when called in.. instead it just looks like an upset family going on a witch hunt. I know thats terrible but, unfortunately thats the way it is..
 

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Re: Kevin Wesley Martin
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2011, 06:40:26 PM »
Hi Folks,

It has been a while since I checked in here, I missed many of the posts over the last year or so. I thought to look again as there is an article in the local news about Kevin Wesley Martin and two other cold cases in Pictou County Nova Scotia, which I will paste below.

As for the proximity of Burnside and Otterbrook Branch Road, they are about 5-15 minutes apart, depending on which part of the Otterbrook Branch you are looking at - though I have been to the site, where a cross has been erected for Hazel, I do not recall the exact location off of Otterbrook Branch Road - it was off of Otterbrook Branch, onto a logging type road in behind. Hunters found her. If you go to Google Maps and 'Directions' and type in 'Otterbrook Branch Road, Nova Scotia, Canada' to 'burnside, colchester county, nova scotia' you will just how very close they are. As a youth, I atetnded occasional large outdoor parties and such in this area, in the gravel pits, etc. so it is not unreasonable to wonder if perhaps Kevin ended up out there for the same reason.

Burnside is about an hour from Stellarton driving the old road, and about 50 minutes from Truro driving the old road, for anyone wanting to compare the distance traveled from home to where either Hazel or Kevin ended up.

Interestingly enough, one of the other homicide cases in the cold file article in today's news is about a man who was found around New Lairg/New Gairloch area, which is along the way from Stellarton to Burnside going the old way. He, however, went missing in 1983.

http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/2011-02-11/article-2220258/Local-cold-cases-still-being-actively-investigated/1

NEW GLASGOW – Kevin Martin. Lynn Oliver. Alex Penney. All very different people, who lived in different times and circumstances.

But they do have one thing in common – their lives were ended far too soon, under mysterious circumstances, making them some of the oldest cold cases in Pictou County.

Police are still trying to find the answers to what happened to Lynn, Kevin and Alex; their lives have not been forgotten and they still have files with the respective police agencies and rewards are being offered for information.

Here are their stories:

Lynn Adel Oliver

It was a hot Saturday morning in late August, and 22-year-old Lynn Oliver was impatiently waiting for her lunch break so she could run home to see her baby boy. She called for a ride, but when she found out she’d have to wait, she decided to walk from her job at Quality Cleaners in New Glasgow to her mother’s home in Stellarton.

She never made it home.

That was more than 30 years ago, on Aug. 25, 1979. Lynn walked out of the drycleaner’s just after 11 a.m. and was never seen again, her body never found. She never went back to Quality Cleaners to pick up her cheque, her social insurance card has never been accessed, her bank account never touched. By all accounts, she simply vanished that summer morning.

Her mother, Lois, was first alerted that something was wrong when one of Lynn’s co-workers called her at 1 p.m., after she’d failed to return from her lunch break. She’d warned them to contact her family if she didn’t return, because Lynn was having problems with a local man who had been harassing and threatening her.

Lynn’s connection with the man was tenuous at best; she’d met him through his mother, who was ill. Lynn had volunteered to run errands and help the woman however she could – and somehow, the woman’s son felt that meant Lynn should be available to him, too.

Lynn’s family believes she set out on the Stellarton Road towards their home and suspects she might have tried to hitchhike, something she was known to do. But her family says she never would have voluntarily gotten in a car with the man who had been harassing her. They believe he had help, that he grabbed her, murdered her that day, and dumped her body somewhere, possibly the old landfill in Priestville.

Although her body has never been found, police believe Lynn is dead.

A banker’s box, filled with files, is flipped through weekly by Sgt. Steve Chisholm with the New Glasgow Police major crime unit. In May, he travelled to Hamilton, Ont., to administer a polygraph test to a person police believed might have had some information on the case, but it didn’t produce any more information.

However, he hints that a new development may be coming in this case and says that it remains at the forefront for the New Glasgow Police.

“Every week, I get a phone call or I talk to somebody else on this, I’d like to do more interviews,” Chisholm said. “I’m pretty sure people do have information – we certainly haven’t given up on this.”

One person, he said, contacted the Help Line with information in the case, but didn’t leave their name. Police have been unsuccessful at identifying that individual, who they believe might be crucial to breaking this case.

The provincial cold case rewards program is offering a $150,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction in Lynn’s case. Chisholm is hoping someone will eventually take advantage of the incentive.

“Lynn’s mom is still alive, her son is here,” Chisholm said. “I’d like this chapter of the story closed for them, at least we could tell them what happened to her.”

He suspects people don’t want to talk because they fear retaliation, but with last year’s arrests in a cold case in Colchester County, he’s hoping that something similar will one day happen here in Pictou County as well.

“I hope it will,” he said. “With any cold case – and there have been cases this old that have been solved – it just takes the right person coming forward. Maybe someone knows something and the guilt is eating away at them, they’ve had a change of faith, whatever, and will come forward. But every year this case remains unsolved is another year her family is going through this, not knowing what happened.”

Kevin Wesley Martin

Kevin Martin was a thin, dark-haired boy just a few months shy of his 14th birthday when he disappeared from his home in Stellarton on May 19, 1994.

The boy’s file speaks of a boy who had seen his brother die in a house fire in 1987, a boy who ran away from his mother and step-father’s house twice before his disappearance, of a boy police describe as “not a bad kid.”

On May 19, Kevin had been returned to his mother’s home after running away and being located in the Thorburn area. He disappeared that same day.

For a time, it was hoped that Kevin was hiding out. People in the area had indicated they’d seen or spoken to him. Into the winter of 1994, police checked out numerous locations, camps and woods throughout the county.

But by early 1995, the reported sightings petered off. After Kevin failed to walk down Foord Street on July 23, 1996 – his 16th birthday, when no one could force him to return to his troubled home – police began fearing that Kevin was dead.

In November 2000, everything changed. Commercial loggers working deep in the woods, 20 metres from a remote logging road in Burnside, discovered human remains in a shallow grave near the Pictou-Colchester county line. In March 2001, after extensive forensic work by the RCMP, the body was identified as Kevin’s.

Although visual identification was not possible, RCMP investigators immediately determined the remains were the victim of foul play.

It’s believed that Kevin died shortly after he disappeared and his body was taken to the woods in Burnside to be disposed of after he’d been killed.

The murder scene has never been determined and the cause of death has never been revealed because it’s evidence only the murderer or a witness to the murder would know.

Shortly after Kevin’s body was identified, his mother, Bonnie Thomas, confirmed that her husband, Danny Thomas, was one of the people under investigation by the RCMP for the murder, but said she did not believe he was in any way involved with Kevin’s murder and was in a cast with a broken leg at the time of Kevin’s disappearance.

The RCMP has never named an official suspect in the case and has never confirmed that Danny Thomas was a suspect.

There’s been conflicting information from Kevin’s family and police authorities as to who the last person was to see Kevin alive – Bonnie Thomas says she and her parents had picked Kevin up from a friend’s house in Thorburn, and after they returned to Stellarton, Kevin got out of the car, jumped a fence and ran off, ignoring her calling him to return; police have said information provided to them indicated that his stepfather was the last person to see Kevin alive.

John William Alexander Penney

Nineteen years after he disappeared, Alex Penney’s remains were found in an abandoned copper mine in Pictou County.

Penney’s remains, which were identified through DNA analysis, were removed by an RCMP extraction team in September 2002 after being discovered by local amateur mineral explorers inside the old copper mine, located on private property a short distance off the New Lairg Road near Gairloch.

The remains were located about 15 metres (50 ft.) inside the mine and down a vertical shaft approximately nine metres (30 ft.) to 15 m deep.

Penney's vehicle, a 1972 GMC Jimmy, had been discovered in December 1983 on Matheson Road, about three kilometres west from where the remains were found.

Little else is known about the man at the time of his disappearance, however. Rumours in the county indicated that Penney might have been involved in the drug trade and biker activities. Some have insinuated that he ripped off someone shortly before he vanished.

At the time, family members had assumed that he had just taken off for parts unknown, something he’d always talked about doing, although they, too, had heard rumours about his possible involvement in the drug trade.

He was reported missing on Nov. 18, 1983. Just 5’4” tall and approximately 130 lbs. when he disappeared, he had recently turned 39 years old.

“Both Kevin Martin and John William Alexander Penney are still open, active investigations,” says Sgt. Brigdit Leger, RCMP media relations officer. “Both are in the process of being submitted to the Nova Scotia Major Unsolved Crimes Program.”

That program, which already includes Lynn Oliver, offers up to a $150,000 reward for a conviction.

“We have received tips on both these files, but our focus right now is that we really want to bring this back to the public. Anyone who has any information, it is never, ever too late to come forward. A person might have a little tidbit of information that could crack these cases wide open.”

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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2011, 08:45:48 PM »
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   Re: Kevin Wesley Martin
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2010, 08:16:21 AM »Quote The locations are not in a very close proximity to one another (Burnside and Upper Stewiacke) Approx. 50 minutes apart or 100 km. 
 I don't believe Troy Cook's disappearance is related to either Kevin Martin's or Hazel Ann Oleksiew's.  Not unimaginable, though unlikely.

BDK; what do you make of the above post?.... most of us are not clear on the Geography.  I thought I was on the right track months ago when I posted my suspicion about this; I actually thought it made sense.... still do!

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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2011, 11:08:37 AM »
I honestly would like to see *ahem* who did this burn in hell.  I am a relative of the family and am sickened by the fact that so many years have gone by and just nothing.  He was obviously running away from something he did not want to deal with at home.  Several times.  No finger pointing here.  And to the people trying to "link" other crimes to this: please stop it. It is just adding more misery to mayhem.  This is an isolated incident and has absolutely nothing to do with other cases.  No RIP for Kevin until the person who did it gets what they have coming to them.  Hopefully soon.

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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2011, 11:32:13 AM »
natesgirl;  you seem to have a "strong idea" that Kevin's death was connected to home ..... and therefore not to any other similar murder/s.  That could be possible, if you are privy to something we don't know, but you would know as a relative. 

However; I don't know if you mean "home" as where Kevin resided with his mother and step father, or "home" as the area he lived in.  I find it odd that the suspect in a similar case - (where the victim's body was found right off a back road leading to New Glasgow) happened to be from New Glasgow.  Both cases involved a very young person having a misadventure with the wrong person???? imo.  Unless you can elaborate on why you feel Keven's death was related to "home", I find it hard to dismiss he may have run into the same murderer.  I wonder if police ever checked that guys whereabouts on the day Kevin disappeared for good. 

Is it not possible that Kevin could have ended up on that same backroad from New Glasgow to Halifax while this guy was coming or going?  He evidently knew how to befriend a young person running and/or isolated.  What side of Kevin's family are you related by if you don't mind my asking?
And also; I'm sorry that you feel "people  trying to link other crimes to this???" ..... why wouldn't they?  because you say you're a relative and you know something we don't?  Not only do we not know what you claim to know, but we also have no way of knowing if you're really a relative.  Think about it ..... to those of us on the outside "fed up with our loved ones getting murdered and forgotten"  we see ourselves as trying to make sense of how this could possible have happened to this young boy .... and nothing was ever done about it all this time .... that is what this site is for ... to nag for justice and closure for Kevin ... just as for our own missing and murdered.  So unless you can give us a little more, all I can say is "I'm sorry you feel that way."  Nobody .... I mean nobody! ... wants Kevin's family to feel any more hurt that they already feel.  What do you think Kevin would want?

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« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2011, 12:36:20 PM »
 I wonder if there is any chance the two might be connected, and that this young man got to the area by or for some other reason, and then ran into the wrong person at a house party or something? Because if he went missing in 1994, the man who killed my friend Hazel was walking free at the time. He would have been living in Truro, but I understand he visited the area frequently.
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Yes, this is indeed a chilling prospect; I imagine that Hughie Muir had considered this angle....my apologies if I seemed rude in my last post; it would be a strong coincidence that Kevin had run into the same killer. 

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« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2011, 07:15:26 PM »
I doubt this is much of anything, but there is no way Stellarton and Burnside are only an hour apart, especially on the back roads. I live somewhere between the two, and Stellarton takes me a bit over an hour to get to, and Burnside, in the opposite direction, takes around 25 minutes, and that is all on the new highway. Back roads I'd add half an hour at least to each. Is it possible he got onto the highway and tried to hitchhike to a friends that lived further away, maybe into Halifax? Because I doubt someone would drive about 2 hours to dump a body and 2 hours back. Who knows. I am not familiar with the case, just the area.

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« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2011, 08:54:43 PM »
camnn; the suspect in my mind has committed crimes in Halifax before.... but is from New Glasgow.... who's to say where/when he met up with a victim and where/when he disposed of them? ... if you know what I mean.  If he happened to be travelling from New Glasgow back to Halifax and came upon this young guy hitching a ride (..the boy half out of his mind for whatever reason... maybe not even knowing where he wanted to go, but just hoped to get away from home) ....the suspect could have made his move at any point along the way.  The other victim seemed to have been killed by the same killer, who dumped her body on his way out of Halifax/Dartmouth area, and then continued on to New Glasgow in the same manner.

 

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