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Author Topic: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS  (Read 115031 times)

Maureen

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #960 on: May 18, 2012, 04:09:55 AM »
Bernie White was the Town Clerk of New Waterford before amalgamation and he kept the same job when we became Cape Breton Regional Municipality.
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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #961 on: May 18, 2012, 01:46:49 PM »
So Maureen, the town clerk writes the Police Commission to "call off" their investigator; does he not?  and does he not admit that he had already gone to the extent of going to Halifax in person at an earlier time on the same quest.... as did Mayor Marsh and Cheif Crowe - to stop the investigation into Clayton's murder and the police brutality complaints/cases?

also Maureen: refresh my aging memory here please:
-  who "blacked out" so much of this two-page document?
-  is town clerk, Bernie White related to one of the cops involved that night, "Brian White"?

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #962 on: May 19, 2012, 10:21:49 AM »
The answer to your questions Lost is yes and I don't know who blackened out the document but this is just an example I think of what we are going to get when we finally get the documents from the RCMP.

I am in Halifax to do a few things pertaining to Clayton's case, including meeting the RCMP who asked for a meeting.


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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #963 on: May 19, 2012, 03:52:26 PM »
thanks Mau;  I find it hard, even after all this 22 yrs. of witnessing Hazzard Co, looking at this document you just presented and thinking how New Waterford was able to "dictate" to the province back then.  ... and to the extremes.

Is it any wonder somebody/ies put forth the amalgamation at that time!  Hard to believe the control Boss Hog and his clique had ... and all the way to Halifax and Ottawa.  ....maybe there was something to rumours about "ties" in gangs in Ontario????? God only knows how bad this really all was/is!   :-\ :-\

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #964 on: May 19, 2012, 11:04:02 PM »
Maureen and Lost;  This Freedom of Info is  a joke.  You will see only what they deem that you are allowed to see, in their estimation.
Good luck Maureen in your meeting with the RCMP, pehaps you may learn of something on a more "personal level"
Bless you.

JB

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #965 on: May 20, 2012, 06:42:24 PM »
Thanks jellybean and as for the RCMP files, I know there will be a lot blacked out. You must remember that we have our own statements and affadavits and we want to compare them to what the RCMP have. We know people we told the RCMP to go and visit and we know what they said. I am not getting my hopes up but I am not as naive as I was 22 years ago thinking the RCMP were going to do the job they are paid to do.

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #966 on: May 24, 2012, 08:29:30 PM »
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We received a call from Staff Sgt. Allan Hearn asking if we would meet with him so he can tell us the status of Clayton's file and when we should expect to receive it and also to talk about Clayton's case. I will keep everyone posted of any news.

Update:

When Staff Srt. Allan Hearns (not sure of spelling his last name) attended the meeting with Maureen and her lawyer today... he showed them a sample/list type of what she can expect in the way of Clayton's material. He would not permit her or her lawyer to copy this document/sample in any way;
I'm guessing he dictated the same about the "meeting" in general - but I don't know for sure about that ???! (We'll speak on that one later on down the road!!!!!)

He (Hearns) claimed Clayon's material (forwarded to Ottawa upon request) consisted of:
 12 banker boxes (12,704 pages/items)
 24 cd/s
Ottawa only ever received 9 banker boxes, so where are the other 3?

 He did not bother at all to bring up Clayton's case (discussion that he promised would take place in this meeting) ....that too, we'll discuss "down the road". ..and I hope you people are reading between the lines here.

Maureen was also interviewed by the Chronicle Herald (Halifax) and that should be in tomorrow's newspaper.
Maureen has an interview on a Halifax radio station tomorrow (time yet to be posted on facebook - it hasn't been decided upon.)  Here's Clatyon's facebook page with the Radio Station link.

http://www.facebook.com/groups/claytonmiller/10150900510563670/?notif_t=group_activity
« Last Edit: May 25, 2012, 08:23:59 AM by lostlinganer »

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #967 on: May 25, 2012, 07:24:27 AM »
New Waterford teen died 22 years ago

The RCMP’s files into Clayton Miller’s death will be turned over to his parents by the end of August.

His mother was given the news Thursday.

“We’ll take the files apart, condense the information and look for inconsistencies,” said Maureen Miller, after getting the word.

Clayton died at the age of 17 in May 1990. His body was found two days after New Waterford police raided a teenage drinking party.

The couple requested the RCMP’s files into their son’s death two years ago. Earlier this month, the Millers complained about the length of time it was taking to gain access to them.

Miller, who lives in New Waterford, said Staff Sgt. Alan Hearn from H Division in Halifax met with her in Bedford to tell her the family would get the files on Aug. 29.

She suggested the force could have “just sent a letter.”

Attempts to contact the police officer Thursday were unsuccessful.

Miller said the files are contained on 24 CDs and in nine banker’s boxes. In total, she said, there are more than 12,000 pages in the file.

“It will be great once we get the information and are able to go through it, although there will be some redacted information,” the family’s lawyer Ray Wagner said.

“It will certainly take us some time to go through.”

Wagner said the family has lived with a void in their lives for many years and they deserve to know the truth about what happened to their son.

“It’s been years of wondering, suppression of information and what they witnessed themselves (22) years ago,” he said.

The Millers were called to the scene where their son’s body was discovered and saw the youth face down in a stream with one arm behind his back and the hand of his other arm up by his neck.

There are witnesses who say they walked the area where the body was found the day after the police raid and Clayton’s body wasn’t in the stream where police found him two days after the raid.

The Millers have always believed their son was beaten and then choked to death, and they have never wavered in their firmly held belief that members of the New Waterford Police Department had something to do with his death.

(mmacintyre@herald.ca)
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By MARY ELLEN MacINTYRE Cape Breton Bureau 




http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/99998-mounties-to-hand-over-files-to-clayton-miller-s-parents-in-august

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #968 on: May 26, 2012, 11:56:11 PM »
Saturday, May 25,2012
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/100438-couple-still-seek-answers-22-years-after-son-s-death


anybody read the comment at the end of the above..... " should let this go before it consumes them" .....if we're not consumed by 22 years ...... Anybody smell something while reading that comment? oh yeah... smells like guilt? fear? ....


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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #969 on: May 27, 2012, 12:55:40 AM »
That one comment was a little different from all the rest. It seemed so hopeful a few days back but Maureen and her lawyer may be right. Why else would the Police give/show an example like that? But after waiting 22 years, August 29th is only a few blinks away now.

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #970 on: May 27, 2012, 08:00:40 AM »
We have to have the proof in our hands in order to do something about this and we will be doing something about this for sure. August is just around the corner, so we waited this long, we can wait a few more months.

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #971 on: May 28, 2012, 12:30:09 AM »
Maureen, I will keep you and your family  in my prayers. I feel that you are going to close this file with the truth!

God Bless!

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #972 on: May 28, 2012, 06:29:15 AM »
Thank you Baba Donya and I hope you get justice for your Aunt. Unfortunately because of the justice system we have, we have to wait so long for that justice. The lies that are covered up because of who is involved makes it hard to believe in our government and police.

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #973 on: June 11, 2012, 04:36:32 PM »
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/105773-at-long-last-family-s-wait-near-an-end

An optimist would say Maureen and Gervase Miller are on the verge of getting information that could lead to revealing the circumstances of their son’s death 22 years ago.

After all those years, optimism is at a premium for the New Waterford couple.

“Optimism? More like determination,” said Maureen Miller in a telephone interview Sunday.

In two weeks, the Millers will get a packet of information from the Justice Department of the department's internal records following the death of 17-year-old Clayton Miller in May 1990.
His body was found in a stream at a New Waterford park two days after local police raided a teenage party in the woods.

“Any parent who saw what we saw when Clayton’s body was taken out of the brook, and all the information we collected over the years, would never give up,” said Miller.

“When I saw my husband and a police officer lay his body down on the ground, I knew he was murdered.

“His hand was up by his neck and his arm was twisted behind his back and his face was a mess.”

In a June 8 letter to the couple’s lawyer, Ray Wagner, a Justice Department bureaucrat indicated the high volume of documents in the file necessitated a two-week extension of the deadline to provide the documents.

That follows on the heels of a 30-day extension.

The extension was necessary because of “the large volume of records that had to be reviewed so we could identify and consult with other public bodies,” wrote Crystal McGraw.

“What’s two weeks after 22 years?” asked Miller.

Equally important, by the end of August the couple will have files relating to the RCMP investigation into events surrounding their son’s death. There are over 13,000 documents, CDs and DVDs.

An investigation by the Office of the Information Commissioner into the couple’s lengthy wait for copies of those files confirmed what the Millers believed all along.

“The investigator sent her conclusions in a letter to our lawyer on June 4 and basically says the RCMP asked for a nine-month extension, and it was up in April 2011,” Miller said.

The letter was written by Carmen Garrett, chief of operations, complaint resolution and compliance, with the Office of the Information Commissioner.

“Since the RCMP did not respond to the request by the expiry of the nine-month extended period, we find that as of April 30, 2011, the institution placed itself in deemed refusal pursuant to sub-section 10 (3) of the act,” Garrett wrote.

When a public institution is in a “deemed refusal” position, the Office of the Information Commissioner can investigate and make recommendations.

“We were able to have the RCMP commit to completing the processing of the request and issue its final response to your client by Aug. 29, 2012,” Garrett wrote.

Miller said the documents from the province and the RCMP will provide a bonanza of information.

“The more we know, the better because eventually we’ll get the right information that will lead to justice for Clayton, and that’s all we want.”

Gervase Miller has been a familiar sight on the streets of New Waterford for almost all of the 22 years since his son, Clayton, was found dead in a brook. He carries a sign through the town, blaming police for murdering his son. (MARY ELLEN MACINTYRE / Cape Breton Bureau)
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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #974 on: July 03, 2012, 04:01:27 PM »
Maureen and Gervase, I hope you get some answers soon. It's been too long that they have kept their secrets. Someone HAS to be held accountable for this. Keep fighting - and don't ever give up.

 

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