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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2008, 01:54:33 PM »
Guess I should not assume you people think the way we do on this....I keep forgetting that we've been at this so long, we automatically have a light go on about those cops now and can pretty much read their motives in their actions.
The cover-up was to protect their jobs, pensions, status, and even their cridibility in previous cases of police abuse they had gotten away with....to say nothing for the fact they are cowards and had to be wetting their pants up until the moment they knew they had the mayor and rcmp behind them.  Then there is also the sad fact that they never got themselves in this much trouble before.  They kept getting away with brutality ....nobody ever faced them, blamed them openly, or caused them this much grief before...they were accustomed to getting their way.  I could tell you about many cases they got away with because people got scared and backed off figuring they couldn't beat these guys anywhere.  We are the first family in the history of the area to stand up and fight this long.  I ask you all "Where in this country or in any other country would you see a family (mainly my brother, Gervaise) carry and display signs stating the police murdered this boy and this doctor and these politicians cover it up!" ? - I'm talking about my brother walks the main streets of CB every day of his life (as we say carrying his cross for all of us) displaying Claytons morgue photo and openly accusing these poeple.  The last thing they want to do it take him into a public courtroom where he would be entitled to have his say)
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« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2008, 11:54:42 PM »
Yes it is definetly sad that institutions protect there bad apples rather then be the ones who throw them out. The police there would do themselves a favor by throwing those bad guys under the bus.

BUt us, as regualr folks too, we should appreicate when organizations do that. Like that thing in Iraq where the Army arrested folks for abusing prisoners. Instead of getting upset with the troops, we should commend the courage to bust there own.

Even recently, Calgary police busted a member of there own force for child porn. I saw some bloggers who blamed police. Come on, give them credit, at least they busted the guy.

Now if it is a cop the town of New Waterford is covering for, the day will come when none of those people are left on the force. Someone with courage will be able to open the case, and get justice. Holding secrets is bad and gives headaches.

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« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2008, 10:01:57 AM »
Well said Chris; and that is why justice takes 20 - 25 years.  It's all about them keeping their jobs until they get their pensions.  It's all about image, to that effect -  the image of the town - the image of the province - the image of the ministers in Ottawa too. When people in power start covering things up by means of political interferance, it can't stop at the town limits.  That is why the cover-up of Clayton's murder became so extensive.  One can't help but wish for death-bed confessions...but again, this points to $$$ and pension benefits to survivors.  The bottom line is:  where there is power, profit, or prestiege at stake, there is no conscience and no limit to the extent of corruption.  Therefore, for our family, the only hope is for it to bear heavily on the conscience/s of those who have nothing monetary to lose, and the salvation of their self-respect and souls to gain.
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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2008, 12:38:35 PM »


Hi Ling, It is so appalling that , some of the police forces, go by the "good ole boys" code of ethics. The cop shop here, had t shirts made up, saying No Rat With a red circle and a line thru it. This was after they had a memo go around, a "joke" letter, email, on how to arrest an Indian! WE never did get to see the joke on how to arrest an Indian.They also got a bunch of natives, to get high! Why? So the cops could see how they behave. Crazy or what? Why didn't they use there own kids?

I have lived in a small town, and understand that nothing changes, if nothing changes. That goes for cop shops too. The power they have is astonishing. Clayton, should have gone directly to the hospital when he was found beat up. Right then, not later. I know that being a cop in a small town, also has status. Solid job, benefits, the best dental care.

I was lucky , in that the town I lived in, had an alright police force.The town is now a city up North, with big city problems.

I think the town you came from, wishes you all, would go away.I think that ACTION, like your family has taken is fantastic.It is sad, that after all these years, you are still being lied too. Or information missing. Your nephew was a typical teen, no different from many others.I am so very sorry for what you and family has been through.

I do think that being out there, and in your face, helps a lot. I never heard of Clayton, till you came across this board. A Petition is a good idea.When I saw the photoe, of Clayton, in that position, I cried. Don't forget, I had 4 teenage boys, and their friends at my place all the time. Add more water to the soup, kinda thing.What was done to Clayton was horrific, cruel, and so freaking wrong.

I am thinking that now with corruption going on in a lot of police forces, they should be kicked off the force. There are too many decent cops, that will become entrapped.Good ethics, morals, are what keep a healthy police force. Once a force, is full of deception., it becomes toxic.I imagine there are good cops, that have been courced(sp), threatened, or worse.

Also, because you have been threatened, followed, and have had many a sleepness night, I wish you could charge the cops, for their bullying tactics.

lostlinganer: The bottom line is:  where there is power, profit, or prestiege at stake, there is no conscience and no limit to the extent of corruption.  Therefore, for our family, the only hope is for it to bear heavily on the conscience/s of those who have nothing monetary to lose, and the salvation of their self-respect and souls to gain.

You spoke that well, and you are a down to earth woman, and what you are trying to do, is astonishing, in that many families give up. You need to get a petition going for sure.You are doing your best, and I hope for you and your family find some answers in your quest for justice, on behalf of Clayton.

Thanks so much for letting us meet you! Never lose your passion! I gotta get soon, so till later(((hugs))).

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« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2008, 03:11:54 PM »
Thank you for your kind words and encouragement Adrian.  I have thought a lot of what has happened in your life.  When one follows the Truscott case, it's maddening because it parallels the Marshall case so accurately.... My sister-in-law has always followed both cases intensely and she is close with the Marshalls.
It weighs heavily on me as well because I was one of the catering grew for a few months at Membourtou Trade And Convention Centre and have some close friends among the native community.
It's different here since the Marshall case because so many ignorant people have faced the fact that Donald was prosecuted without looking at any other suspects...totally because he was native.  That horrible waste of Donald Marshall's life has impacted the community.....too bad that it takes such sacrifice of a victim every time fate has it that society needs a shaking!  They think twice now about who they choose as scapegoats.
However, this place will always have more than its fair share of racists - and I do always notice that when a native dies by mysterious circumstances, little or nothing gets done because the native people seem to lack the energy to fight the rotten who-you-know system in this province.  They seem to grieve on their own and give up easily.  ...I guess the point I'm trying to make is that murders get watered down and swept away all the time here unless it happens to somebody who matters or somebody who has family that are strong enough and determined enough to go at it themselves and challenge the system.
My heart goes out to you because you have need to worry and be aware for your own as well.  Please know that there is not a night of my life that I don't pray for yours and my family and those like us.  My mother said the rosary every night...when she took several strokes right after Clayton's murder, I took her beads and have continued her prayers on her behalf ever since. (she passed away 2002 - it seems her mind left with Clayton)  Those beads have been sewn together in so many places you wouldn't believe; and only last night, I feel asleep with them and broke them again.  But I will continue to pray and keep faith and I know you will too.  Take care of family at all risk and with all your strength and determination...that's what I believe as did my mom.

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« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2008, 04:40:58 PM »
 You hit it on the head Adrian when you said "it is so appalling that SOME of the police forces go by the good ole boy code of ethics." I have lived in many communities both large and small throughout both BC and AB, and thankfully I have never seen this complete lack professionalism on the police force. In general, most of the officers I have met are very credible and most are there for the right reasons. I believe that they often times do a thankless job in a society that lacks respect for authority. As Chris said in his earlier post us regular folk should be more appreciative of what they do. I realize that there will always be the bad apple but, at least for the most part I think they are the exception. The RCMP does not allow indefinite postings in any community anymore (at least in the lower ranks) so we just don't have these guys that stay until they die. Also we don't live in the dark ages so most of us believe that our elected officials need to be held accountable. After having read everything that is on this thread and pretty much everything on this topic on Injustice Busters too all I can say is I certainly would hope that this type of thinking has changed by now.
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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2008, 11:17:01 PM »
Has anyone noticed all those teachers in the USA being charging with having sex with there students in the last year or so? There has been like 30 - 40 cases of that going on.

It would appear this is a new phenomenon, but in fact it is not. WHat is different is, teachers, the union and schools are not covering it up anymore and letting those teachers face justice.

So what seems like a huge problem, is actually not. It demonstrates progress is being made. But sometimes progress is messy and sounds scary.

As soon as other entities do what the teachers union and schools did, throw those bad apples under bus, then society in the long run will have more faith in the system. But like those pedophiles priests who still refuse to ackknoledge the problem, or the police departments who still stand by criminal cops, and political parties who still circle the wagons etc, people will never fully trust those organizations until they demonstate a willingness to clean house.

Like I always say, our Country is a 2 steps forward, 1 step back society. But at least there has always been slow progress.

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2008, 08:36:01 AM »
good points, as usual Chris; but it's the small town thing...that's where treatchery feeds and flourishes most because there's so little opposition to it....the strong rule and the weak sit back and wish they were strong.  I just finished the morning news and here is an example of an everyday paradox around here....I'm referring to two cases of drunk drivers having killed:

1.  FREDERICTON (CP) ? A judge in Fredericton has sentenced a woman to 32 months in prison for a drunk driving accident last year that killed one of her passengers.
Julie Lynn Dorcas, 26, had entered a guilty plea to a charge of impaired driving causing death in the crash in March 2007.
Troy Price, 19, was one of five passengers in the vehicle when she lost control and left the road, landing in a ditch.
Price died as a result of the accident, while the other passengers sustained minor injuries.
Court was told police who responded to the crash noticed a smell of alcohol on the woman?s breath and she was slurring her words.
Dorcas, a single mother of two young children, confirmed she?d been driving the vehicle.


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Last updated at 11:55 PM on 21/07/08   

 Patrick (Paddy) Brogan leaves the Sydney Justice Centre, Monday, after being acquitted of impaired driving causing death and criminal negligence causing death. Brogan was charged in connection with the death of six-year-old Joshua Penny in Florence in 2006. Steve Wadden ? Cape Breton Post 
 
Brogan found not guilty in death of boy struck by car
Judge rules that accident wasn?t result of man being drunk

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SYDNEY ? The man who struck and killed a six-year-old boy two years ago was acquitted of impaired driving causing death and criminal negligence causing death Monday, as provincial court Judge Anne Derrick found that while he was impaired by alcohol, it wasn?t a contributing factor in the accident.
Patrick (Paddy) Eric Brogan, 59, was charged Sept. 27, 2006 after the car he was driving struck Joshua Penny who was riding his bike on Main Street in Florence. Penny died nine days later as a result of serious head trauma and other internal injuries.
 
 
 My point is the girl in case 1 was given jail time (not near enough as far as I'm concerned)   yet Brogan was given a thousand dollar fine and I think a short suspension of his drivers lisence.   BROGAN IS THE BROTHER OF HIGH PROFILE LAWYER HERE IN SYDNEY (NASH BROGAN)
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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2008, 12:47:17 PM »
As has been said on this site many times before, Canada is well known for it's soft sentences. The fact that these two drunk driving cases (both causing death)  had two very different outcomes doesn't really surprise me. You see it all the time where people get very different sentences, sometimes even when they are involved in the same crime and tried separately. I think some judges are softer than others and sometimes it seems like they take the accused backgrounds into account more than they should. You   quite often hear it said these days that someone had a rough start in life or came from a bad home. To me that's just no excuse. It isn't only the public though, that is frustrated by some of these judges and even the system itself, but also the arresting officers that work so hard to see that these things even make it into court, only to see someone get a slap on the wrist, or even have the case thrown out altogether based on some technicality.

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« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2008, 02:28:24 PM »
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BROGAN IS THE BROTHER OF HIGH PROFILE LAWYER HERE IN SYDNEY (NASH BROGAN)

Yes I agree with that 100%. Judges cut slack for people whom they view as more elite.

Alberta has very strong drining and driving laws. Basically, if you are drunk and kill someone, you go to jail no exceptions. But 2 years ago, the 22 year old daughter of a judge was drunk when she ran over 2 people and killed them, and then after being arrested fought with police and refused to ever take responsibilty for what she did.

But somehow, even after all that, her judge gave her 3 years probation and worked her sentence so that she would be able to go to the USA since she wanted to be a model.

But I still believe things are getting better, it used to be worse. Us Canadians should be more vocal about soft sentences and unbalanced rulings handed down to the social elite.

Here, we are doing that and I hope as we become more and more popular, we can all become a bigger thorn in the a$$ of the system.

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« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2008, 07:51:01 PM »
I started a new post for Joshua. I hope everyone will read and agree that something has to be done here. No one should get away with what Paddy (Drunk) Brogan did. But of course like Clayton's case it's who you know and how much money or power you have.

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« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2008, 12:41:23 AM »
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But of course like Clayton's case it's who you know and how much money or power you have

Ick, tell me about it. This is why I don't support political parties, once in office, they are all the same and cut each other the same favors.

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Re: Clayton Miller | Unsolved Murder (May 1990) New Waterford, NS
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2008, 07:31:16 AM »
Hi again folks...re: Clayton's death, I was just doing some of my usual snooping online and ran into a deluge of items on Okechukwu Ikejiani.  Now it's important to digress here to the beginning of this whole dilema.
The day after Clayton's body was discovered, the first autopsy was performed by Dr. Ikejiani.  First thing, that morning, he phoned Gervase and Maureen (Clayton's mom and dad) and asked them to come to his office in Glace Bay. Now, I'm not screaming you guys...just giving notice to a most important fact I have overlooked all these years.....(it's paying off...you people are making me start to think like yourselves!)
-  PATHOLOGISTS, ESPECIALLY DOING ON AUTOPSY TO FIND THE CAUSE OF DEATH, WOULD NEVER BE CALLING THE FAMILY OF THE VICTIM...THEY WOULD BE CALLING THE AUTHORITIES -
This is a most important factor.......
When Clayton's parents arrived at his office, Dr. Ikejiani advised them that they had better find, or get in touch with, a LAWYER OR POLITICIAN they could trust, because it was clear to him that Clayton had died of a Police Choke Hold.
That was quite a revelation for my brother and his wife - that being that the most crucial of observers, and definitely the most credible, was on their side.  They had what they needed to press for justice, fearfull of what they knew they were up against, imagine the immediate admiration and respect Gervase and Maureen felt in their hearts for this man...especially when he went on to tell them about the horrors he had seen in his native Nigeria and how much this "commando" hold was used to subdue people and how often it killed people. He explained the use and danger of this hold in detail.  My family did not dream this up.  It was the most substantial fact and most real element (aside from the loss of this beloved boy) my family had to face. Nothing could measure up to this man's honest approach to family and brave revelation of fact .....that is nothing until weeks later, when the same wonderful man would turn his back and decide he had never made such statements to my brother and his wife. 
......and that was the biggest and worse travesty and mis-carriage of justice which paved the road of cover-up from the New Waterford Police ...all the way to the steps of parliament...which is how far my brother carried this case.  There is much more to Ikejiani's troubled behavior and decision, which Maureen could fill you in on....but for me, all I know about him is that when he turned his back on Clayton and became Judas, I got in my car and went right to his office...I didn't even give his secretary a chance to warn him, I walked right in on him, and told him in no uncertain words, exactly what I thought of him.  He was speechless and in shock as I left him standing with his mouth open mumbling,....I can't even remember....I just remember the guilt on his face...if only I'd taken a camera!  ....I do remember looking over my shoulder on the way back to New Waterford, expecting police to close in on me...but that never happened.  ...then within weeks, I heard rumors that this man had faced Dr. Roach in New Waterford (other part of police plot) and also that he had taken to alcohol abuse...but, I have no way of knowing if these two facts were true....but I do know that he suddenly relocated to Ottawa (where he refused to talk with reporters or anyone about Clayton.)  Last night I stumbled upon tons of writings he has online which show his envolvement, his passion and his endeavors on behalf of Nigeria......in a lengthy profile on him (which seems to cannonize him as a saint)....I read that his youngest of 8 children, is a lawyer with the Nova Scotia Department of Justice....is this co-incidence or what!

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« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2008, 11:51:02 PM »
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Dr. Ikejiani advised them that they had better find, or get in touch with, a LAWYER OR POLITICIAN they could trust, because it was clear to him that Clayton had died of a Police Choke Hold.

Now that is very weird. It would be interesting to see what he says if he was under oath.

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« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2008, 08:10:04 PM »
I must point out something that Maureen corrected me on....it seems that the morning of Clayton's autopsy, Ikejiani did not phone my brother and his wife; they phoned him.  Maureen said that he answered the phone with the exclamation "what in the hell went on over there?"  the rest of my description of the events was accurate, although Maureen could add more about their dealing with Dr. Ikejiani.  For me, upon reading so much on him, and based on what his daughter told Maureen about her father's passions for, and fear of, corruption in his homeland, I would expect his belief is "what benefits the greater good".  I realize this man started out with the best of intentions on Clayton's behalf.  Maureen was told by a few witnesses, that he actually went to New Waterford and challenged Dr. Roach (who was covering up for police) and that Roach called the cops, who arrived at Roaches' office and removed Dr. Ikejiani.  They probably put a terrible scare in him .... and one can only imagine how severe that could have been for such a man with such honor and knowledge to bow to the police needs.  The writings by, and about, Dr. Ikejiani reflect the fact that once he moved to Ottawa, he became very involved with his homeland and a lot of good communication with Canada began of his country's behalf....
Perhaps, the man traded Justice for Clayton for something more important to him .... "a greater good".

Since nobody is asking any questions about what we know and what is online, I guess it's safe to assume, we have the best of wishes for justice coming our way; but apparently, the case is either too big for people to take in, or else they feel it's a done deal.  Nonetheless; I will throw a few scraps of info from my collection (every now and again) to give folks something to think about.

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23 August 2007
Posted to the web 23 August 2007

Godwin Haruna
Lagos

Dr Okechukwu Ikejiani, nationalist, first republic politician and an accomplished scientist, is dead.According to a statement by Professor Miriam Odinchezo Ikejiani-Clark, he died on Sunday, August 19, aged 90 years.

Described as a patriot, humanist and philanthropist, he spent all his life in service of his nation and humanity and lived a fulfilled and life. His working career spanned three continents, where he held several important positions in his chosen field of medicine. He was a life member of New York Academy of Sciences, Canadian Association of Pathologists, Canadian Associa-tion of Medical Micro-biologists and the Canadian Medical Society, among several other international organisations.

 
In Nigeria, he held several positions, among which are; a pioneer lecturer and consultant pathologist, University College, Ibadan, in 1948, founder and proprietor, National Clinic and National Clinic laboratories, Ibadan and Lagos between 1956 to 1966, pro-chancellor and chairman of council, University of Ibadan and chairman, Eastern Pharmaceutical Corporation.

Others include, deputy pro-chancellor and founding member of the provisional council, University of Nigeria, Nsukka, first indigenous chairman, Nigerian Railway Corporation and President, Nigerian Medical Association, among others.

Lincoln University, Pennsylvania, USA in 1955, University of Nigeria, Nsukka in 1988 and University College of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada in 1994 honoured the departed nationalist with honorary degrees.

Ikejiani published four books and over 30 research articles in reputable and international scientific journals and periodicals.

His wife, nine children, 13 grandchildren and three great-grandchildren survive him.

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His daughter, Prof. Ikejiani-Clark, who signed the transition statement, was a minister under the late General Sani Abacha military government.



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