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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2012, 11:27:11 PM »
Cops hope to ID 'Nation River Lady' murder victim

 KENNETH JACKSON, Ottawa Sun
First posted: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:00 AM EDT | Updated: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:42 AM EDT


OTTAWA - - Police have released a sketch, a grisly photo and background information in their efforts to identify the victim of a 35-year-old murder who is known only as Nation River Lady.

Ontario Provincial Police say the woman was the victim of a "brutal" murder. Her body was found floating in the Nation River near Highway 417 in Casselman, east of Ottawa, on May 3, 1975.

A farmer found the body, which police believe was thrown from the westbound lane of the highway bridge into the river below.

She was was wearing only an undershirt and had no identification.

Police released a new composite sketch of the woman Wednesday and are offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of her killer.

Police also have more information about the victim and the case on their website. Included in the crime profile is a grisyl, post-mortem photo (WARNING, the content might be disturbing to some viewers) of the victim's face. To view the profile and access the image. follow this link: http://www.opp.ca/cibui/html/displaycase.php?id=105.

It is estimated that the body was dumped in the water the fall of 1974. An autopsy revealed she was strangled to death with a piece of rare cable television wire.

Her hands and feet were tied with men's neckties, one of which is called

"The Canadian Tie", which has three Canadian emblems on a navy background.

A tea towel and other clothes were wrapped around her head.

Police hope the updated artist's reconstructive sketch may assist in identifying the woman.

The post mortem examination revealed that at some point during her life, the deceased had her appendix removed.

She would have been 25-50 years old, Caucasian, 5-foot-3 and weighed about 45 kg.

She had extensive dental work and partial dentures, although police were never able to identify the origin of the work.

Her hair would have been dark brown and shoulder length, dyed a reddish-blonde. She had manicured, painted finger nails.

Anyone having information about the "Nation River Lady" or her murder is asked to call the OPP at 1-888-310-1122 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.

http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/05/06/13844091.html

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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2013, 10:10:14 PM »
This lady was found floating in the Nation River on May 3, 1975. Thirty eight years ago, today.

She had been murdered. Sadly, she has never been identified. 

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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2013, 10:31:31 PM »
very odd deb... I've been digging about that lady since two days.  Something that really bothers me is the fact that she had two (not just one) sets of partial dentures.  That is as good as, or better than fingerprints.  Maybe we don't get our fingerprints recorded in our lifetime, but some dentist or denturist practicing in the 60's and/or 70's definitely has a record of that job.  Each partial had to be $1,000 or more ...even back then!  There is something definitely fishy that hasn't been done.

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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2013, 02:43:43 PM »
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2322dfqc.html

From where the body was found and where Sylvie was last seen is only an hour and a half away.
 

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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2013, 06:00:57 PM »
looks like a possible; however, the link states Sylvia went missing in 1975- whereas, TNRL was found in /73 or /74 I think.

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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2013, 06:14:15 PM »
looks like a possible; however, the link states Sylvia went missing in 1975- whereas, TNRL was found in /73 or /74 I think.

Lost, the Nation River Lady went missing on May 3, 1975. Thirty eight years a few days ago.  :)

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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2013, 08:03:07 PM »
Yes;... thank you deb... I see that now.  My mistake, I've been dwelling on another still-missing lady from elsewhere in Ontario.  ...one who went missing prior to 1975.  So Jessica's offer of a match for the poor soul (NRL) is quite logical. 

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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2013, 03:07:14 PM »
Rose Marie Friday shares some similarities:  time frame, body size (approx) and has what was considered "good" dental work.  Pretty long shot, I'm sure....

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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2013, 03:21:56 PM »
The distinctive "Canadian tie" described by the police, a photograph of which is available to view on the OPP website:

http://www.opp.ca/cibui/html/cases/1975/955101990098/b1c9e9339983ffb60ab37cd5b40d6474.pdf

looks very similar to a tie worn by staff at the Australian pavilion in Montreal during Expo 67.

http://www.nma.gov.au/collections-search/display?irn=131827

Perhaps the "Canadian tie" belonged to someone who attended, or even worked at one of the Canadian pavilions during Expo 67.

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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2013, 06:41:43 PM »
From what I am reading, they figure the Nation River Lady went missing/was murdered in the Fall of 1974 and found in May 1975. (reply#30). 
I was confused for a bit about the tie(s). Now, I see there was two different ties used on this woman.  One having the Canadian emblems and the other is a flowery red/white tie. 
I am not sure where to connect the ties to, I am surprised the Police didn't/couldn't find out about the ties origin, if the Canadian symbol was connected to anything or not, and the TV cable wire which apparently was rare. 

My guess is a husband killed his wife, and somehow people believed his story about where she went.  The tea towels, cable wire, and neck ties are all items readily found in a couple's home.  (even if the cable was a rare kind, it was still a cable which we all have). 

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« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2013, 07:38:42 AM »
I was looking at her after death picture and her features are very evident so I was looking for pictures of facial structure by nationality and found this and it is really neat.

http://www.fabulouslybroke.com/2011/02/the-average-face-of-different-nationalities-do-you-see-yourself/

My thoughts so far i have tried to answer to myself, 1. Why not report someone missing, could have been a runaway from many years earlier, could have been an orphan or foster child that did not keep in touch, could have been the only relative was her murderer or someone is searching in the wrong place for her.

Her eyebrows go on forever, her eye and cheek bones are so defined, she could suffer a form of Asper syndrome, she could have been a guinea pig baby in the 60's thus dental work not available? So many reasons she may not have been found by family or friends yet.

2. If it was fall when she was killed why was she wearing only a body shirt, tank top, makes me think died in spring? Where were the rest of her clothes, the murderer left so many other pieces of peculiar evidence behind why not the rest of her belongings? If she had any? Blood evidence found on bridge, if she went in water in fall I doubt the blood would be there in the spring after all the snow and rain.

3. With dyed hair and manicured fingernails and maybe the body shirt was her dress; was she an escort of any kind?

4. Shower curtain clip in armpit, could she have been rolled up in a shower curtain to remove her from the crime scene and when he/she rolled her out of it it got stuck, or did she go in the river with the curtain around her and as the current moved she rolled out?

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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2013, 05:09:52 PM »
Just viewing this case ---I was wondering if the tie with "Canada" on it could have possibly been part of a uniform/ dress code of a Canadian government worker?  This tie must be recognizable by someone. imo

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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2013, 12:09:50 AM »
I am thinking not as it was the tie worn by the AUSTRAILIAN  pavilion, but there would have only been so many of them dispensed I would thing, would have thought that would have widdled it down some.

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« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2013, 07:24:31 AM »
I think if the police have not already done so, they should do a Canada-wide appeal for anyone who recognizes that tie.

If the tie was worn by someone in connection with a ceremonial or celebratory event, there must be photos of people wearing the tie.

I was looking at a few Expo 67 websites, and apparently there were about 5,000 Canadian workers at Expo 67 in Montreal.  There was actually a 10-year reunion of all the workers in 1977 at the "Man and His World" pavilion in Montreal.  People probably came from all over Canada to work at Expo 67.

Put it on the CBC and CTV news at night and ask anyone who remembers seeing someone wearing such a tie to contact the OPP.

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Re: The Nation River Lady - Found - May 3, 1975 - Casselman, ON
« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2013, 07:47:01 PM »
Just an update on Sylvie and the UID.

I actually had the Montreal Police call my house, I have never had that happen  ???
The detective on site was really intrigued and thought she looked spot on, it freaked her out because she was just about to put her case back into storage and review it at a later date, the case file was still on her desk from the day before. Basically they looked into it and contacted the OPP? they had ruled her out before but re checked and she is NOT  a match.

They were disappointed tho, but at least we can continue on.