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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2008, 07:08:04 PM »
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By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press Writer Wed Jun 11, 5:25 PM ET

OTTAWA - In a historic speech, Prime Minister Stephen Harper apologized Wednesday to Canada's native peoples for the longtime government policy of forcing their children to attend state-funded schools aimed at assimilating them.


The treatment of children at the schools where they were often physically and sexually abused was a sad chapter in the country's history, he said from the House of Commons in an address carried live across Canada.

"Today, we recognize that this policy of assimilation was wrong, has caused great harm and has no place in our country," he said, as 11 aboriginal leaders looked on just feet away.

Indians packed into the public galleries and gathered on the lawn of Parliament Hill.

From the 19th century until the 1970s, more than 150,000 Indian children were required to attend state-funded Christian schools as part of a program to assimilate them into Canadian society.

Hundreds of former students witnessed what native leaders call a pivotal moment for Canada's more than 1 million Indians, who remain the country's poorest and most disadvantaged group. There are more than 80,000 surviving students.

"The government of Canada now recognizes that it was wrong to forcibly remove children from their homes and we apologize," Harper said.

"We now recognize that it was wrong to separate children from rich and vibrant cultures and traditions, and that it created a void in many lives and communities and we apologize," Harper said.

Harper also apologized for failing to prevent the children from being physically and sexually abused at the schools.

Phil Fontaine, the national chief of the Assembly of First Nations and one of the leaders seated near Harper, wore a traditional native headdress and was allowed to speak from the floor after opposition parties demanded it.

"Finally, we heard Canada say it is sorry," Fontaine said.

"Never again will this House consider us an Indian problem for just being who we are," Fontaine said. "We heard the government of Canada take full responsibility."

He said the apology will go a long way toward repairing the relationship between aboriginals and the rest of Canada.

The federal government admitted 10 years ago that physical and sexual abuse in the schools was rampant. Many students recall being beaten for speaking their native languages and losing touch with their parents and customs.

That legacy of abuse and isolation has been cited by Indian leaders as the root cause of epidemic rates of alcoholism and drug addiction on reservations.

Fontaine was one of the first to go public with his past experiences of physical and sexual abuse.

The apology comes months after Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd made a similar gesture to the so-called Stolen Generations ? thousands of Aborigines forcibly taken from their families as children under assimilation policies that lasted from 1910 to 1970.

But Canada has gone a step farther, offering those who were taken from their families compensation for the years they attended the residential schools. The offer was part of a lawsuit settlement.

A truth and reconciliation commission will also examine government policy and take testimony from survivors. The goal is to give survivors a forum to tell their stories and educate Canadians about a grim period in the country's history.

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On the Net:

Assembly of First Nations: http://www.afn.ca

Indian and Northern Affairs Canada: http://www.ainc-inac.gc.ca

Truth and Reconciliation Commission: http://www.trc-cvr.ca

   
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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2008, 12:03:33 PM »
http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/2008/06/12/5849726-sun.html

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 By CHRISTINA SPENCER, SUN MEDIA

Former residential school student Joe Courtoreille watches a TV broadcast at the River Cree Resort and Casino in Enoch of Prime Minister Stephen Harper apologizing yesterday to victims of abuse at Indian residential schools. About 600 people gathered to hear Harper. (JASON FRANSON/Sun Media)

Elsie Robinson, 87, mother of 15, former residential school student and volunteer support worker for troubled aboriginals on Vancouver Island, made it to Ottawa this week for the first time.

It was, she pronounced with the widest grin you will ever see, well worth the trip. "I just love it," she said.

Robinson and her daughter, Louise White, 62, joined more than 500 people on the front lawn of Parliament Hill to watch on an outdoor TV screen as the prime minister of Canada apologized in the House of Commons for the dark decades of the federal residential schools program.

Stephen Harper and opposition leaders delivered remarks at times poignant, at times blunt. Five First Nations leaders were invited to respond inside the House. Later, the prime minister presented framed certificates of apology to former residential school students.

Canada's aboriginals had long awaited the government's formal apology.

The evening before, a brief downpour soaked the capital, which one elder interpreted as a "cleansing rain" meant to prepare Ottawa for the solemn ceremony.
   
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Fittingly, then, yesterday dawned temperate and bright. About 60 people gathered for a sunrise ceremony on Victoria Island near Parliament Hill. They held hands for prayer, a pipe ceremony and the lighting of a small blaze that would burn until official events on the Hill ended.

Peter Cooko, from Maniwaki, Que., tended the modest fire for hours. He attended a French-language residential school for six years as a child. "I volunteered for the job of this ceremony. It's a spiritual thing to tend the fire here."

Meanwhile, people filled the plastic chairs set up on Parliament Hill. Volunteers handed out water and tissues, in case of tears. Some carried feathers. A few held placards.

Mostly, the audience was quiet and focused on the words of apology from Harper, Liberal Leader Stephane Dion, the Bloc Quebecois's Gilles Duceppe and NDP Leader Jack Layton.

It was the responses from First Nations' leaders in the House that drew the most enthusiasm from those gathered outside. Decked in full headdress, Assembly of First Nations Chief Phil Fontaine accepted the apology and spurred a standing ovation on the lawn of Parliament.

Iris Acoose, 56, of the Sakimay First Nation in Saskatchewan, watched the TV screen outside. She spent six years in a residential school, an experience that led her into "major drinking and drugging" as an adult. Now sober, she is a health support worker. Yesterday, she felt satisfied.

"I wanted to come here, I thought it was important," Acoose said. "An apology from the prime minister is a great thing."

Elsie Robinson left with words of hope. "Our people are strong. They're not stupid, they're beautiful people. We're all turning a page together."
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2008, 02:32:42 PM »
The peoples of Canada and beyond, need desperately to be heard, and I don't wan't any one saying these didn't occur. It makes you as sick of those that said the Haulocaust didn't happen.

This is very important and will hopefully star the healing process in a big way. As an abuse victim myself, I know the harm it can do to our psyches, our attitude, our feelings of worthlessness, and not belonging really anywhere. I bypassed it years ago, with a lot of reading, studying, and actively speaking about sexual abuse, emotional, and even physical abuse.

It hinders our process of growing, and I made many bad impulsive decisions in my early years, the fear I lived in for years. It still hits me when I think of it, and it jolts me whenever, I hear of abuse. As a Heinz 57, still searching for my real Dad's family, I have
 crossed barriers.

It is with a feeling of great glory, I am happy in knowing that Canada stepped up to the plate, regarding the abuses in the Residential Schools, and how it affected, my Ojibway husbands, family. He is an ex now, and is still following the same destructive parenting skills.

Thankyou, a sister in peace and growth, and helping survivors.

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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2008, 01:30:05 PM »
I am very pleased about this. While on my trip this week, all radio stations seemed to have guests talking about this. I guess for the first time ever, these folks finally feel like someone is listening.

Most of Canada's biggest changes are rooted in the West. I guess that is because the wind blows from west to east?

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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2008, 07:55:03 PM »
 ??? ::) ::) >:( >:( :'( :'( :'(

I totally agree! There is NO more room for secrets! Our young, and old are being killed off. Many are of Native descent. Some are not.

I am crossing my fingers, and praying that those that know anything at all, about any killing, step forward. The time has come, and we need answers.

The Residential Schools were hell holes, and caused many of their children being horrifically abused.Some made it out. Some perished in this schools. The Catholic's did nothing, and tranferred renegade pedophiles, priests, and pastors, to other places. , to continue their abuse.There were many who did not survive the abuse, and either committed suicide, or turned to alchohol. and drugs.

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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2008, 07:27:43 PM »
The sad thing is, there are still people out there who think that government should 'transform' children and there are still people who think pedophilia is 'progessive' and 'normal'.

But you are right, I agree wtih you. Time to get the secrets out in the open. It is amazing it took to 2008 for the government to actually recognize this.

And for the people who are upset the government did that, I hope they can understand that it is not an indictment on Canada as a country or on the people here.

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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2009, 05:54:13 PM »
organized religion has been responsible for more death and criminal actions than organized crime could ever be. Why has the U.S. Government and the Canadian Government not used the law to rip away the cloak of secrecy from the churches?
The tax exempt status, the confessional, and many other methods the churches have over the years to guard themselves from rebuke from the law must be torn down. We must demand that they are held accountable as would any other citizen or organization....Enough is Enough!!!!!! How long will they go victimizing the children and the disenfranchised???? >:( >:( >:( >:(

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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2009, 10:00:14 PM »
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organized religion has been responsible for more death and criminal actions than organized crime could ever be

What are you talking about? Now or 200 years ago? Criminals kills a combined 15,000 a year in Canada and USa combined. I don't think any religion kills anyone anymore.

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U.S. Government and the Canadian Government not used the law to rip away the cloak of secrecy from the churches
In both Canada and the USA, each constitution allows freedom of religion. Sort of like freedom of speech, it can be ugly sometimes, but protecting it is better then letting a potential tyrant control it.

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We must demand that they are held accountable as would any other citizen or organization
I'm not sure what you mean? They are held accountable.

There are reasons why religion, freedom of speech and right to own guns are so important. Without those rights and freedoms, the govt would control them, and then suddenly we'd have an eve bigger problem then the one we just tried to fix.

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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2009, 10:05:06 AM »
Hi again Chris,
                  You make some good points, but I must clear the air on a couple.
First I made reference to Organized Crime, not criminals in general. I made a direct correlation to the two Organized entities for a purpose.
   When I say the cloak of secrecy, I mean the methods the Catholic Church uses to shift offending clergy from place to place in order to avoid law enforcement and legal entanglement both civil and criminal. It is still going on even as high profile cases have removed public ignorance. The higher up in the church the harder they work to keep the clergyman hidden, to the point of removing them from the country.
   Insofar as the Governments are concerned, I am not advocating a removal of the protection of the confessional. What I am advocating is the use of warrant and sopenea power to bring these pedo's to justice. When the Church uses the stigma of shame, fear, and the overall awe of the congregants of the church in the ongoing cover up, that is interpreted as obstruction, conspiracy, and complicity. In other words it becomes a criminal enterprise. The U.S. constitution gives us the right to worship as we see fit. The separation clause only guarantees that the Government shall not establish a national church nor prevent us from attending the church of our choice.
   Freedom of worship was never intended to hide criminal activity. I wish it were true that the door was opened all the way. I wish that the churches were as transparent as they expect us to be. But as is true of any portion of our societies there will always be those who believe themselves above the law....

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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2009, 10:33:57 AM »
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First I made reference to Organized Crime, not criminals in general

Right I missed that.

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When I say the cloak of secrecy, I mean the methods the Catholic Church uses to shift offending clergy from place to place in order to avoid law enforcement and legal entanglement both civil and criminal

That I do agree with. It was clearly criminal for them to have done that, and I do think those involved in any coverup should have been charged.

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What I am advocating is the use of warrant and sopenea power to bring these pedo's to justice.

Yeah I am 110% on board for that too. It is just horrible that until last year, the Pope never spoke out on that... still not enough.

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The separation clause only guarantees that the Government shall not establish a national church nor prevent us from attending the church of our choice.

Hey you did well in school! For some reason, most people think that means govt must be cleansed of any religious act even as far as to remove the word God from the penny (I actually was rasied in Montana and Texas.... I loved history and the constitution and not much else).

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I wish that the churches were as transparent as they expect us to be.

I'm not to knowledgable about the Catholic church and other religions, but most Prodestant churches like Lutherans, Baptists etc don't have as much central planning and could never pull that stuff off. I think most Christian churches is moving away from an origanized 'religion' and into non denominational which is good.

bUt yeah, I agree with what you said. Guess I mid understood. Pedophiles... those guys should be treated like murderers since they tend to have over 100 victims and they never stop.