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waabzy

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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2008, 06:07:27 AM »
Not in Canada unless remains are being shipped overseas.
I have AIDS and have my funeral arrangements done and asked all kinds of questions. I am choosing cremation  but burial is possible and I have been to MANY AIDS related funerals where the body was buried.
Being me, one of my questions I asked the funeral director was "What happens to the body fluids that you drain out during embalming?" and the answer was - it gets drained into the city sewers, back into water supply . I asked if this means the water we drink has that in it. He said "Well yes".  I have bought bottled water since.
We all have the option of NOT being embalmed if we want. That was my choice. :)

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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2008, 03:09:06 PM »
It takes a lot of courage to say what you just said on a public forum Waabzy. I would hope that if I was in the same position I would have the strength and dignity that you have. Take care.

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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2008, 10:33:40 AM »
debbiec my life is an open book lol. i have nothing to hide, no shame in living with AIDS, much to my family's dismay.

Nor did Cheryl or Debbie. We were all pretty public about our status.

Cheryl and Debbie were both dearly loved and honoured by their families. Unlike my family, if I were to be murdered no one in my family would bother to make sure an investigation was done. I am relying on all of you to do so if this happens. I continue to get death threats all the time. And NO I do NOT report it to the police.

When I reported the rape that got me HIV + in the first place I WAS BLAMED for being where "I shouldn't have been" by police.


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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2008, 11:42:56 AM »


Waabzy,  I have read all that you have written on your site. You are a great women, a trailblazer, for the people of the missing and murdered across Canada.

R.I.P. Cheryl

The Quinn's of this world, well, there should be something done to them to make em stop. I often think if a guy kills once and gets away with it, he is very susceptable to doing this again. I wonder about his past?

If he also killed Mc Doom he is a multi killer!  >:(

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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2009, 03:05:27 PM »
I got this message in the e-mail:


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hi this is sara cheryls daughter not only was money missing some of my things were missing she never liked to walk far because of her foot pain nor would she walk in a bad area ever

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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2009, 01:08:23 PM »
chris can you please respond to sarah and tell her amber would like to speak with her?  give her my email address. thanks

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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2009, 01:19:07 PM »
ive had a facebook group for cheryl  for some time now
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=2349577643&ref=ts

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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2009, 01:43:54 PM »
This is the first time that I've seen this post but was a little ticked off when I read it.  I realize you are trying to help with closure for Cheryl and I appreciate that but I wish you knew the truth on some of the things you are saying before you put them on the site.  The first thing that ticks me off is that Chris was not that close of a friend of Cheryl's and he certainly didn't raise her until he got what he wanted when my sister was murdered and took my niece that is the only way that he got her because we were too stupid to realize what he was up to and that all he wanted was Sara.  Cheryl knew Chris for a long time but they were not that close if they were how come the family never even heard of him until she went missing.

The other thing that ticked me off was when you stated about the family having Cheryl cremated....what makes you think the family had it done?  We had no say in the matter whatsoever...just to let you know that anyone who is HIV Positive is automatically cremated when they die the family has no choice or say in the matter because they say the HIV could be still dangerous and they dispose of the persons body.

Chris is a piece of shit as far as me and my family are concerned and I am tired of hearing how great he is and how he's Sara's father.  He screwed my family big time and he will pay for it one day.

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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2009, 08:52:47 PM »
This is the first time that I've seen this post but was a little ticked off when I read it.  I realize you are trying to help with closure for Cheryl and I appreciate that but I wish you knew the truth on some of the things you are saying before you put them on the site.  The first thing that ticks me off is that Chris was not that close of a friend of Cheryl's and he certainly didn't raise her until he got what he wanted when my sister was murdered and took my niece that is the only way that he got her because we were too stupid to realize what he was up to and that all he wanted was Sara.  Cheryl knew Chris for a long time but they were not that close if they were how come the family never even heard of him until she went missing.

The other thing that ticked me off was when you stated about the family having Cheryl cremated....what makes you think the family had it done?  We had no say in the matter whatsoever...just to let you know that anyone who is HIV Positive is automatically cremated when they die the family has no choice or say in the matter because they say the HIV could be still dangerous and they dispose of the persons body.

Chris is a piece of shit as far as me and my family are concerned and I am tired of hearing how great he is and how he's Sara's father.  He screwed my family big time and he will pay for it one day.

Brenda

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Brenda your family i know u hate my dad for what ever dumb reson but he has raised me from a babby and is careing and loving u r just sad that u dont know me that much so u take it out on my dad my mom was murderd because she kicked a guy that my mom and dad were good friends without of  the house my dad was very upset crying alot and u type this to me in emails and and on the internet HOW CAN U SAY THIS u dont even know my dad so how can u tell this he was THE BEST FRIEND OF MY MOM SHE EVER HAD i would no. so it is u who has to get this story right it was very sad that my mom is daed but its not my dads fult SO STOP CUSSING OF MY FREAKIN FATHER and if my mom were alive to see this im sure she would feel the same way i do. :(

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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2009, 06:58:51 AM »
(((((((( sara ))))))))))))))) hi honey! I don't know if you remember me or not but my name is Amber. I used to live down the hall from you. I am the woman who had the wolf who had puppies. YOu used to come to my house all the time to play with the pups, and to sneak a cookie or two when you were real small.
I have heard that you have grown up to be a real talented person, well adjusted and I have been so happy to hear this.

I want to invite you to something hon,so please contact me at waabzy@rogers.com


[/quote] Brenda your family i know u hate my dad for what ever dumb reson but he has raised me from a babby and is careing and loving u r just sad that u dont know me that much so u take it out on my dad my mom was murderd because she kicked a guy that my mom and dad were good friends without of  the house my dad was very upset crying alot and u type this to me in emails and and on the internet HOW CAN U SAY THIS u dont even know my dad so how can u tell this he was THE BEST FRIEND OF MY MOM SHE EVER HAD i would no. so it is u who has to get this story right it was very sad that my mom is daed but its not my dads fult SO STOP CUSSING OF MY FREAKIN FATHER and if my mom were alive to see this im sure she would feel the same way i do. :(
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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2009, 07:52:35 AM »
This is the first time that I've seen this post but was a little ticked off when I read it.  I realize you are trying to help with closure for Cheryl and I appreciate that but I wish you knew the truth on some of the things you are saying before you put them on the site.  The first thing that ticks me off is that Chris was not that close of a friend of Cheryl's and he certainly didn't raise her until he got what he wanted when my sister was murdered and took my niece that is the only way that he got her because we were too stupid to realize what he was up to and that all he wanted was Sara.  Cheryl knew Chris for a long time but they were not that close if they were how come the family never even heard of him until she went missing.
Brenda I don't why you are directing anger towards me. What I wrote is the truth> I realize you have no respect for Chris but in all fairness, HE WAS Sara's Daddy. He was there when she was born and was VERY involved with her. He saw her at least every weekend and often during the week as well. I have no idea why your family didn't know about him but Sara ( and she is who is important now) knew him as her daddy, she adored him and he - her. Chris supported Cheryl, not only in coparenting Sara but financially as well. Every week on a Friday night he would take Cheryl grocery shopping. There was never a lack of food in the home.  Sara adored Chris and would jump at the news that her daddy was coming over. I realize you have suspicions about him, and am angry that he never brought Sara to the funeral  or that you have not seen Sara since Cheryl died  and I am not saying you are wrong to feel this way, but I need to speak up for Sara that Chris and Cheryl WERE very close. when she found out she was HIV+ and pregnant and decided to give birth to the chid, Chris stepped in and told her he would help her raise the baby and be her daddy even though he did not father this child. And he did.
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The other thing that ticked me off was when you stated about the family having Cheryl cremated....what makes you think the family had it done?  We had no say in the matter whatsoever...just to let you know that anyone who is HIV Positive is automatically cremated when they die the family has no choice or say in the matter because they say the HIV could be still dangerous and they dispose of the persons body.
Brenda this is untrue. People with AIDS  are and have been buried for more years than Cheryl has been dead. The only difference would be if a person who died of AIDS was being flown out of country ( and I think that law has since been changed.  I don't  know if you were told this but if I remember correctly, Rosar Morrisons funeral home handled her cremation and they were the first to bury people who died of AIDS in Toronto ( willingly ) and would have been the first to know if a body could be flown home for burial at that time, rather than needing to be cremated. I don't know why this is a sore spot to you at this time and find it interesting that you have never addressed this with me over the years during our many conversations. Perhaps you are having a difficult time right now since Cheryl's anniversary just passed but why shoot the messenger?
Much of what I have on my site for her is information YOU gave me.
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Chris is a piece of shit as far as me and my family are concerned and I am tired of hearing how great he is and how he's Sara's father.  He screwed my family big time and he will pay for it one day.

Brenda

You are welcome to think however you want about Chris. The fact remains he was and is Sara's "daddy" for all purposes.  Cheryl told me many times that she didnt know what she would have done without him. I tend to agree that it was wrong of him to keep Sara from your family, especially in the early years after Cheryl's murder, but the fact is they were VERY close at one time, enough that she gave birth to a child not knowing what the outcome was KNOWING he would be true to his word to her. And he was. And continues to be from what I hear in the community.

Sara is old enough now to decide for herself if she wants contact with your family. Speaking badly of the daddy she loves is no way to endear her to you.

There were MANY times when she didn't know how she would get through the month financially and Chris made sure over and over again that her rent was paid, she always had groceries and anything she or Sara needed.



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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2009, 01:16:18 PM »
This is the first time that I've seen this post but was a little ticked off when I read it.  I realize you are trying to help with closure for Cheryl and I appreciate that but I wish you knew the truth on some of the things you are saying before you put them on the site.  The first thing that ticks me off is that Chris was not that close of a friend of Cheryl's and he certainly didn't raise her until he got what he wanted when my sister was murdered and took my niece that is the only way that he got her because we were too stupid to realize what he was up to and that all he wanted was Sara.  Cheryl knew Chris for a long time but they were not that close if they were how come the family never even heard of him until she went missing.

First, lemme say its incredulous to suggest that because you have not heard of Chris, he and Cheryl were not close. I essentially "lived" with the two of them for years. Honestly? And I do not mean to hurt you, but... in all the years that I was with them, I can only recall Cheryl speaking of her/your mom and her bio dad ~ never you. Does this mean the two of you were not close? You've probably never heard of me either, Melissa, nor our friend, Sara, who your niece was named after....

Do you know about Sara's beginnings? Chris and Cheryl discussed her long before she was ever conceived. She was planned; she WAS NOT an accident. They discussed the conception, and the parenting of a little one for at least a year prior to her conception. How do I know this? I was there for many of these discussions.

The only "thing" Chris did not contribute to in the making of Sara was her genes. Cheryl turned up pregnant while they were still discussing having her. It seemed an easy decision to continue with the pregnancy, although there were some risks. Chris was the first one to hold Sara upon her scheduled delivery, not me, not Sara, not you, but Chris.

I know you loved her; we all did. I don't mean to attack you, nor hurt you, but its hard for me to see the attacks on Chris....

(FYI, I am the original thread started. I just could not retrieve my password.)




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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2009, 04:51:12 PM »
Found this today... I am sharing before I have even started to read....

http://www.canlii.org/eliisa/highlight.do?text=mcdoom&language=en&searchTitle=Search+all+CanLII+Databases&path=/en/on/onsc/doc/2007/2007canlii55366/2007canlii55366.html

If I am understanding this correctly, they reduced the charges to 2nd degree murder instead? (A later ruling)
« Last Edit: May 30, 2009, 05:24:32 PM by missnaz »

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Re: Cheryl Lynn Parker and McDoom
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2009, 06:56:52 AM »


[31]      For the reasons outlined above, I would quash the discharge of the accused on the charge of first degree murder and order that the matter be remitted to the preliminary hearing judge directing that he commit the respondent to stand trial for first degree murder based on forcible confinement.


QUINN Is BEING CHARGED WITH FIRST DEGREE MURDER based on the ligature marks found on McDoom's wrists.Now if theyy would only place an informer in his cell maybe he will talk in regards to Cheryl's murder.

Its interesting because a few months ago I had a visit by Vaughn police, wanted to show me some mug shots in reference to another murder........... of a drug dealer who frequented the same building. This guy ( I cant remember his name but he was a biker) was known to know Quinn and Cheryl. He was murdered I believe 6 years ago.


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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2009, 11:39:31 PM »
reduced charges.... yeah that is justice right?

 

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