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London / Re: Jacqueline Dunleavy, 16, - London, ON - Murdered - 1968
« Last post by chickapey on October 26, 2014, 10:04:37 AM »
I wish her brother and sister would get involved on here. Although it's as painful now as it was then, their insight could really help. They were both younger than her but they may still remember something or have something to add. I do get the feeling that being an officer, their father likely had a very short list of suspects and an even shorter list of gut instincts.
London / Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Last post by chickapey on October 26, 2014, 09:59:25 AM »
I was thinking the same thing... photoshop the damage out and maybe clean some lines up a little. What puzzles me is what appears to be stairs in the background... they look too small in proportion to the rest of the building to be stairs but being a topper doesn't quite work either. Does anyone else have  the talent to clear this picture up a bit?
Yes, tragic and unwarranted violence was done by this MZB.  But let’s take a lucid look at what drove him, someone burned by drug addictions.   See article below.  These two recent events don’t raise any fear for me and my community.  Honestly, do you feel afraid?  What I’m really scared of is Harper distorting this event by labelling it as ‘terrorist’ when no evidence of connection to terrorist networks seem to exist, and using it to call for more police powers.   We don’t need a police state.  For one thing, we could use more rehab centres.


Exclusive: Ottawa shooter Michael Zehaf-Bibeau was ‘at odds with the world,’ mother says
By Douglas Quan, Postmedia News October 25, 2014

Susan Bibeau wonders whether enough was done to help her son, who she believed suffered from mental illness
Michael Zehaf-Bibeau’s terror-filled rampage in the nation’s capital this week wasn’t driven by some grand ideology or political motive, but rather was the “last desperate act” of someone who was not well in his mind and felt trapped, his mother says.

In a lengthy written statement to Postmedia News on Saturday, Susan Bibeau said her son was anxious to travel to Saudi Arabia — not Syria as police have stated — but when his passport application kept being held up, he likely felt cornered, “unable to stay in the life he was in, unable to move on to the next one he wanted to go to.

“He was mad and felt trapped so the only way out was death.”

RCMP Deputy Commissioner Mike Cabana confirmed that earlier statements by police that Zehaf-Bibeau had intended to travel to Syria were incorrect.

“Our guys realized that they made a mistake” after reviewing the taped interview with the mother, Cabana said. He said the force did not see a need to correct the record because extremist travellers destined for Syria often go first to places like Saudi Arabia or Turkey.

Bibeau wrote that she asked police to correct the misinformation, but Cabana said they have no record of the request. Had they known, they would have done so, Cabana said.

On Wednesday morning, Zehaf-Bibeau fatally wounded a soldier at the National War Memorial and then stormed the Centre Block on Parliament Hill before being killed in a gunfight. The attack made headlines around the world.

Four days later, Susan Bibeau said the family of Cpl. Nathan Cirillo is foremost in her mind. She said she doesn’t know how to express the sadness she feels. Is there something she can do for the family? “I don’t know what is appropriate in these circumstances.”

She said the reason she was putting out a lengthier statement was not to justify her son’s actions — which she described as “wrong and despicable” — but to provide context.

At the heart of this tragedy, she wrote, is mental illness. Bibeau said her son, who police have said was raised in Montreal, had a serious addiction to drugs, which surely affected his mental state. His conversations were strange — he often spoke of the devil, for instance — leading the family to wonder, “Was he crazy?”

The family tried to help, but he resisted it.

He was an unhappy person who was “at odds with the world,” and so he turned to religion and Islam as a way to make sense of it, Bibeau wrote.

Because religion is not something she can easily relate to, conversations were often one-sided, with him doing the talking and her doing the listening.

But the relationship between Zehaf-Bibeau and his parents deteriorated. Five years ago, he moved to Vancouver.

Susan Bibeau said she has seen reports that her son was kicked out of a Burnaby, B.C., mosque because of his drug use and abnormal behaviour. She wonders about the actions they took.
“If they did turn him away, I am sad that it is so, for that is what religion should be about, helping people in trouble, providing emotional support, not turning people away because it is ugly and complicated,” she wrote.

Recently, after a five-year estrangement, Zehaf-Bibeau wrote to his mother out of the blue. He told her he was well and that he was reaching out because his religion dictated that he be good to his parents. It was his duty.

Over lunch, he talked about how religion was good and how she was wrong to pursue material things, Bibeau recalled. He shared that he planned to go to Saudi Arabia to study Islam and the Qu’ran.

“He thought he would be happier in an Islamic country where they would share his beliefs,” she wrote.

But there was a hitch: the passport he had applied for more than a month ago had still not been approved. He said it might’ve been related to a person he had used as a reference.

That’s why he went to Ottawa, to try to convince officials to give him one. Bibeau, a senior official with the Immigration and Refugee Board, believes that her son’s inability to get a passport made him snap and strike back against “symbols of government.”

“My son used to spend hours playing those war video games,” she wrote. “In looking at the event it reminded me of that except (that) now it was real life, people were real and got hurt.”

Wednesday’s attack has prompted vows from the Conservative government to enact tougher anti-terrorism legislation.

Susan Bibeau acknowledged her son’s actions “did create terror” and that her son had met with someone who had gone to Syria to fight. He also believed that the U.S. government was responsible for killing thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians.

But Bibeau questioned labelling her son a terrorist. “Most will call my son a terrorist, I don’t believe he was part of an organization or acted on behalf of some grand ideology or for a political motive.

“I believe he acted in despair.”

 Bibeau said mourning the loss of her son is something that is “deep within me,” but she is not ready yet to go there.

For now, she feels more anger than sadness, and shame for what her son did. She said she will always be burdened by the question of whether she could’ve done more to help.

Someone even wrote to her to tell her that she was a bad mother.

“You can never express it as deeply as I feel it at this time,” she said. “There will always be guilt.”
London / Re: Jacqueline Dunleavy, 16, - London, ON - Murdered - 1968
« Last post by factsfirst on October 25, 2014, 07:23:41 PM »
  Not really much new to add here. No posts for more than 7 months for the case that had plenty of impact to a generation of Londoners......myself included, as she was the exact same age as I was when she was murdered.  January 9, 1968 is a date that a lot of us will always remember. She was the first in a long series. Just don't want anyone to forget about her or the effect that it had on Londoners reading the London Free Press [1968's Internet].
  The facts of the case are well documented including the significance of the date once Frankie Jensen went missing on February 9 of the same year. I won't dwell on those. She left work at the Stanley Street Variety around 6:00pm and when she was found less than 3 hours later, her body was still warm. Short time frame. Like a lot of the other cases, she got into a car in a built up area of two story homes where there was all kinds of potential for someone to see "something" and there has never been even an accusation let alone an arrest or a trial.  C.P.R.I., Katherine Harley, daughter of police officer, possible connection to other cases, strange dumpsite, unusual discovery by teenagers...... the list could go on. If these are serial killings then it is possible that solving one could lead to.......
London / Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Last post by jellybean on October 25, 2014, 06:28:08 PM »
You are right - he is not holding a stick.  I took another look at it noticed imperfections (damage to the photo - going across it kind of in a < shape.)
It looks like the photo is cracked.  So the crack in the photo gives the appearance of a stick. This crack or cracks extend over to bottom of the "flower pot" which makes the pot look as though it is kind of suspended off the floor.
That could easily be repaired by something like photoshop or the like - know what I mean?
I wonder who has the original photo?

Can you make out the damage?

London / Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Last post by chickapey on October 25, 2014, 05:49:50 PM »
I mean I don't see the stick he's holding.. the sail boat makes sense though. All I know for sure is it's driving me nuts
Excellent points made SAP!  Unfortunately we will all have to face changes in our lives. The changes will not happen overnight.  But if each layer of Home Grown violence adds up - further changes will occur.

In addition,  I am also concerned that violence will happen to innocent people because of their religion.

Hate crimes, etc.

London / Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Last post by jellybean on October 25, 2014, 04:15:14 PM »
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=709.msg109572#msg109572 (743 page 50) by chickapey
If you look at his left hand in the forefront, and then look across to the right - there is a triangle going up to his other knee.  At first, one would take it as a blank space (because it is white), but it looks like a toy (hobbie sail boat to me).

London / Re: Jacqueline English - London, ON - Murdered - 1969
« Last post by chickapey on October 25, 2014, 04:04:25 PM »
I can't see that he's holding anything but the sail makes sense because there is something there blocking the view of what's behind him. I think the planter behind him IS sitting on something square like you said and there seem to be either stairs behind him or part of the wall he's sitting on. Something like a finneal (sp) that would go at the end.
On very late news CNN it was mentioned that ISIS has given orders that western radicals should attack anyone in uniform.
The latest attack was New York City. With these kinds of attacks no one can be sure where it will happen next but they can be certain this is only the beginnings ... so many mentally unstable people out there.




Even if the attacks were ISIS-inspired, that probably doesn’t mean ISIS commanders in Syria or Iraq actually ordered them. ISIS has specifically called for “lone-wolf” attacks against Western countries, and it seems entirely possible that Zehaf-Bibeau and Couture-Rouleau , both reportedly active in jihadist web forums, could have hatched these not-particularly-sophisticated plots on their own.

This certainly isn’t cause for comfort, though. Self-starting terrorists are a lot more difficult to track than those with direct ties to international networks. The incidents will also raise questions about the seriousness of Canada’s radicalization problem.

It's way past time to stop being politically correct and treating dissidents with kid gloves. 

This quote is a head-shaker:

Zehaf-Bibeau is described by the Globe and Mail as a “laborer and small-time criminal—a man who had had a religious awakening and seemed to have become mentally unstable.” His father, a “Quebec businessman … appears to have fought in 2011 in Libya.”

Can our leaders state as fact that this man fought against Al Quaida?
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