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Other Alberta Locations / Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Last post by lostlinganer on May 19, 2016, 11:30:20 AM »
RIGHT ON JOBO!!!!

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Lostlinganer....Reply #2047..... States that Vader's love interest, Sheri, got a text on July 10th and so did Bulmer, who helped Vader who said he was stranded in Lodgepole.
Vader burned a truck that day.

Now we got Vader, Sheri, and Bulmer possibly operating together that day.... let's see what else we can find happened on that day!

Point of Interest for me:  I did a snipit with 3 alternate routes Vader could have taken to dispose of that truck. .... all routes can lead to the dam or the campground that I'm curious about; maybe even came in the long way from Edson, through the foothills?  driving around half crazy! Not logical thinking!   excuse my rough scribbling and added colors, but just trying to keep my thoughts together that way. :-[

 ... my gut tells me Vader came in one route and attempted leaving another route.... my gut tells me he made this drive on the 9th maybe? .. and spent the early hours of the 10th resting in the woods or campground.

... also, I feel he planned on exiting on Chip Lake Road Route with Bulmer once he arrived to help him.  I still need to dig up the name of bud he borrowed truck from (which he never returned.. got him arrested possibly) ... and the date he left with this bud's truck.  I figure he transfered the McCann's remains into that truck maybe covered with a tarp... during the night (and that he had help with that.)

... I figure the McCanns were killed inside the camper because they wouldn't "cough up" pin numbers... ergo push came to shove - to murder!
 
... I figure that's the gun/s Bulmer alluded to in his controlled testimoney - and why he wanted Vader out of his house.  If you go over all Bulmer's statements, whether at the time of Vader's arrest, or at court; - even though words and content from him is manipulated and change, it still leans toward him being "pre-disposed to involvement and knowing everything" . I also think the police took such guns or amo boxes from Bulmer's property.
 
... I feel the motorhome had to be distroyed to hide evidence and spent bullets... since there is no mention of bullet holes and/or spent bullets found in the SUV.

... I feel all the formerly involved players have full knowledge of all Vader did, but each of them are involved one way or another and/or attached to other players one way or another.  ... and the police know this full-well imo., but cannot orchestrate proper case because of all their "red neck police" blundering.  So guess we'll have to do it for the McCanns.  Worst part now is you'll never get the authorities involved to admit to their mistakes and/or omission and what they neglected .- which is a list as long as my arms.
 
... I can't help but think that the high priced lawyer who took this penniless guy's complicated, time-consuming, money-consuming case, has enough accumulation of the three P's at his disposal (power, profit, privilege) to be able to have all kinds of retractions, memory loss, fear, fact altering, manipulation of witnesses and some in authority, etc. -  happen to accommodate reasonable doubt for acquittal.... including the estimate of price to make it happen ... probably already got the proposal in place for a settlement for Vader.  ... that would make it possible to give  whatever hungry turncoats their share of the otherwise reward for anonymous and "confidential information" that had to be altered or dismissed along the way.  That's how it's done folks! Millions in a law suit can buy a lot of favors from hungry, desperate and crooked types.. and I'm not just referring to the ones who cannot beat the devil addiction! ... just ask the family of Clayton Miller!
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Jealousy - Couple too cozy in their relationship.  Someone talked into doing it - I would check out his (Glenn's)in-law relatives.

My own opinion only.

jb
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Other Alberta Locations / Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Last post by jellybean on May 19, 2016, 11:04:18 AM »
Thanks debbiec for the article.

If this man gets bail again, I will lose all faith in our justice system here in Alberta.

and further'

quote from article regarding bail.

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Crown prosecutor Ashley Finlayson told court the specifics of the breach charges against Vader would be modified.

Rather than contacting Crown witness Don Bulmer between March 8 and April 17, that contact is now alleged to have taken place as recently as May 8.

Does this mean that Vader did not contact DB between March 8 and April 17 - only on May 8th? Or are the other dates included?
And the charge of breaching conditions by failing his drug test has now been amended to breaching conditions by being in possession of a non-prescription drug.

By modifying it - does this mean "less serious" ? And sounds to me that the positive drug test has been dropped.  How about adding the possession to the positive drug test?

And what about the theft charge (the truck?) Has this been dropped?

jb
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Other Locations / Re: Marion Bagshaw | Murdered | Near Mount Albert (June 18, 1960)
« Last post by July on May 19, 2016, 09:13:48 AM »
Marion Bagshaw and Glenn Harris Kivell

The Cold Cases of York Region: Marion Bagshaw and Glenn Harris Kivell
 
Angus Morton didn't think twice when he looked out and saw Marion Bagshaw's kitchen light on just past midnight on June 19, 1960. It wasn't unusual for the 36-year-old woman, who rented a home on Angus' father's property, to stay up late with her close friend, 46-year-old Glenn Harris Kivell.

To Angus and his father Harry, it came as a total shock when they found Bagshaw and Kivell the following day, shot to death in Bagshaw's kitchen. The pair were having a beer and preparing a meal in the late evening hours when they were killed by an unknown assailant.

Investigators from the Ontario Provincial Police determined that Bagshaw was shot first through a side door and didn't expect the attack - she never got up out of her chair. Kivell, who had rented a room at the Morton's farm since separating from his wife more than a year before, was killed after Bagshaw.

Based on bullet fragments found around the kitchen, police also know that the pair were murdered with a .303-calibre Enfield rifle. Many rifles were examined in the months following the murder, but the murder weapon was never recovered.

more photos of the scene available from the article
https://www.yrp.ca/en/community/Marion-Bagshaw-and-Glenn-Harris-Kivell.asp
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Other Alberta Locations / Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Last post by debbiec on May 19, 2016, 08:48:41 AM »
Cellphone evidence questioned at Vader trial
Private technologist disputes Telus employee testimony

Wednesday, May 18, 2016 03:15 pm
By: Doug Neuman



Defence witnesses have continued to call into question the evidence of Crown witnesses in Travis Vader's double murder trial.

Wednesday morning, an electrical engineering technician with extensive experience working with cellphone towers and installing repeaters in the Edson area testified tower range and reliability varies significantly.

Vader is accused of killing St. Albert couple Lyle and Marie McCann on July 3, 2010, the day they were last seen in St. Albert. Text messages were sent to Vader's ex-girlfriend from their cellphone later that day from a cell tower near Edson.

Derrick Hawboldt, who owned a company installing repeaters to provide cell service to remote oil and gas sites in the Edson area in 2010, said he was doing an install of that type roughly once per day and said the tower shown on Telus records may not be a reliable indication of where the phone was when the call was made.

He said in his hands-on experience, different towers had ranges varying from up to 62 km all the way down to just a few kilometres, depending on the direction.

He also noted local repeaters with a range of about 500 metres could be routed to any tower within 120 km, and furthermore, when Telus was upgrading from analog to digital in the summer of 2010, which was “no easy task,” certain towers were known to be problematic in that they would drop calls or otherwise stop providing a signal intermittently.

“In that time period they were upgrading technology, and there were often issues,” Hawboldt said.

He also testified there would be no record of whether a call connected directly to a tower or whether it was connected via a repeater as much as 120 km away.

Previous Crown witnesses had testified cellphone towers have a fixed range of roughly 40 km, with the exception of a few repeaters in harder-to-reach areas, and testified calls are always routed through the tower offering the strongest signal.

The evidence is significant to the Crown's case as prosecutors have entered into evidence a binder full of text message records and call records showing the location of the towers the calls were routed through. Many of the texts the Crown alleges were sent by Vader, including the ones from Lyle McCann’s phone, went through towers in the Edson area at a time when Vader’s alibi places him in Edmonton.

Autobody mechanic

On Tuesday afternoon defence lawyers attempted unsuccessfully to have Melvin Ray, who has worked in autobody repair for three decades, qualified as an expert witness to give opinion.

While Justice Denny Thomas ruled Ray could not provide opinion evidence as an expert, he nonetheless gave testimony about what could have made a dent in a specific truck.

Vader’s ex-girlfriend Andrea Saddleback-Sexsmith testified earlier in the trial that she had seen Vader driving a light coloured Ford F-350 with a third door and a fuel tank in the back on July 4, 2010. She said she had been angry with him, and punched the side of his truck near the rear door.

Several other witnesses have testified they saw Vader driving a similar truck in early July, and police recovered a truck of that description from an oil lease site which officers have testified actually contained a key to the McCanns’ SUV.

According to Ray, a dent in the side of that truck in the area Saddleback-Sexsmith said she hit could not actually have been caused by someone punching it, casting doubt on whether the truck recovered at the oil site is the same truck Vader was said to be driving.

“A human fist didn't cause that damage,” he said, noting it looked like it instead could have been caused by a golf ball or fence post.

Vader's bail

A brief bail hearing was held Wednesday morning for Vader, who is back in custody on allegations he breached conditions, stole copper wire and was in possession of a stolen truck.

Those offences are alleged to have taken place during the trial, while Vader has been wearing an RCMP tracking ankle bracelet.

Crown prosecutor Ashley Finlayson told court the specifics of the breach charges against Vader would be modified.

Rather than contacting Crown witness Don Bulmer between March 8 and April 17, that contact is now alleged to have taken place as recently as May 8.

And the charge of breaching conditions by failing his drug test has now been amended to breaching conditions by being in possession of a non-prescription drug.

Vader, wearing the orange jumpsuit and orange rubber shoes issued to prisoners at the Edmonton Remand Centre, appeared agitated during his appearance.

He repeatedly shook his head, shifted his weight quickly from one foot to the other, and tried unsuccessfully to have a conversation with a reporter sitting in the public gallery.

He remains in custody on those charges. A bail review has been scheduled for this Friday at 9 a.m.

http://www.stalbertgazette.com/article/Cellphone-evidence-questioned-at-Vader-trial-20160518
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Other Locations / Aqsa Parvez 16 Murdered Mississauga ON Dec. 10 2007
« Last post by July on May 19, 2016, 08:41:23 AM »
Aqsa Parvez murder: Did father or brother fatally strangle teen?



Aqsa Parvez’s father and brother pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in her death.
 
Mississauga News
By Louie Rosella   
Jul 26, 2015

MISSISSAUGA — Aqsa Parvez just wanted to be a teenager. Members of her family thought she was an “insult” to them and her religion, and they vowed to silence her.
Aqsa’s father, Muhammad Parvez, a former cab driver with Mississauga-based Blue & White Taxi, and her brother, Waqas Parvez, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder, confirming what the girl’s closest friends and classmates at Applewood Heights Secondary School held true long before she died – that Aqsa Parvez was victimized because of her desire to be more western, and less Muslim.

The case, which became the talk of national and international media including broadcast heavyweights CNN and BBC, is a heartbreaking dark side of Mississauga’s multiculturalism. It was the immigrant horror story no one wanted to accept or believe: a 16-year-old high school student strangled to death in her Longhorn Trail home, the victim of the collision of two cultural worlds: the restrictive one her Pakistani parents prescribed for her and the westernized, liberal one she tried to choose for herself. Parvez, youngest of eight children, died Dec. 10, 2007.

Her death gained international attention because it so clearly epitomized the struggle going on in many homes in many cultures around the globe and rekindled the debate of the place of women in Islam. The Crown intended to prosecute the case as an honour killing. Justice Bruce Durno said young Parvez was murdered “for the purpose of saving the family pride and avoid the community embarrassment of not being able to control what they perceived to be a rebellious daughter.”
Her brother and father are serving life sentences.

In a shocking police interview with the dead girl’s mother on the day of the murder, Anwar Jan says her daughter would still be alive if she had only listened to her family.
“You made my life into hell. Oh my Aqsa, you should have listened. Everyone tried to make you understand,” Jan said, according to a transcript of the police interview. “Everyone begged you, but you didn’t listen.”
Prior to the murder, Aqsa’s father swore on the Quran “he would kill her” if she ran away again and her older brother told his friend he had intentions of killing his teen sister, and that his father would take the blame.

The father told police and family members that fateful day that he committed the murder. He placed a 9-1-1 call that morning, saying he “killed his daughter using his hands,” court heard in a lengthy agreed statement of facts. However, Peel Regional Police secretly caught Waqas Parvez on tape months after the murder, admitting to a friend, tow truck driver Steve Warda, that he had choked his youngest sister “until she died.”
It’s still not clear which man actually strangled the teen.

http://www.mississauga.com/news-story/5750594-50th-anniversary-aqsa-parvez-murder-did-father-or-brother-fatally-strangle-teen-/
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Other Alberta Locations / Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Last post by jobo on May 19, 2016, 05:56:52 AM »
Lostlinganer....Reply #2047..... States that Vader's love interest, Sheri, got a text on July 10th and so did Bulmer, who helped Vader who said he was stranded in Lodgepole.
Vader burned a truck that day.
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Other Alberta Locations / Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Last post by lostlinganer on May 18, 2016, 10:30:17 PM »
yes Cape; but people on this thread following since day 1 can get a pretty good idea as to which is information and misinformation .... all helps us figure the puzzle out.  ;)

That is a great "supplement post you added there jb .... few extra facts jumped out there too.

BTW.. point of interest: 
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Bulmer drove out to meet him in Lodgepole, and the two drove about 20 miles (32 kilometres) to a remote location near a gas plant near Elk River Road. Vader loaded several items from a truck there into Bulmer's truck, including a big-screen TV, some DVD players, some tools, some bedding and a few bags.

Vader and Bulmer then hooked that truck up to Bulmer's with a chain, pulled it out onto the road then pushed it down the hill. Bulmer said Vader asked him to pick him up at the bottom of a hill a few minutes later. When he did so, he saw the truck was “engulfed in flames.”

So I start thinking to myself:
If you google the Lodgepole area (as I am after doing more than a few times, you will notice that the "google man" can only get down on the road in certain areas on Chip Lake Ave.... and Blaze Road.  (bear with me)  those are the names of the roads that are quite rural when you drive from MacKay/Niton area to Lodgepole .......... and if I'm right, you have to pass through Cynthia.  ....then down to Lodgepole where Vader broke down with the stolen truck (or was that the truck loaned to him by the other friend? whom I suspect reported it stolen when he realized what Vader might have gotten him into) ... since Vader was arrested the next day or so  ;)  ..... (and as if Bulmer didn't know that truck belonged to Vader's other buddy when he went to fetch him.... and I can't help but wonder if it was that same truck? and if it was the girlfriend (Bulmer claims
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He testified that on a Sunday in mid-July, he got home from work to his McKay, Alta., home and got a message from one of his roommates that Vader was stranded in Lodgepole, Alta., and needed a ride.
who got the call from Vader to have have Bulmer come and fetch him near Lodgepole.  I have to dig back and read about the other buddy who loaned Vader the truck, which Vader didn't bring back.... was it a Friday or Saturday that happened?  ...what those guys call mid- July, may have been days earlier???
  ... that is why I suggested we start at day 1, when the McCanns went missing, and fill in each day after that with all the players!  .......... I'm thinking:  Did Vader take that truck out there with the prime intention to torch it (and any evidence in it - and I wonder if the stupid authorities checked to ascertain whether a high velocity accellerent was used on that truck) or did it actually break down when he was disposing of the McCanns, but intended to get back to MacKay with it?  ...and did the actual owner of the truck know what Vader was doing when he borrowed the truck?  ..... and did Bulmer and the Vader's girlfriend also know he would be needing to be picked up?  ............. I'm saying that I find it impossible to believe that so many people/friends/witnesses ... whatever they are .... never, ever questioned Vader when he needed and/or demanded so many favors.
  .... Now back to the map - and the drive from MacKay to Lodgepole area:  When I first started digging into the google images where I figured Vader had Bulmer meet him and help him dispose of that truck, I realized that the drive through Cynthia... along Blaze Road, and/or Chip Lake Ave. or Rd. get so rural, there is no "street view".... I also wonder if Vader had gone as far as the big dam there to dump the bodies..... now that I read in what jb posted last.... I realize Bulmer mentioned Elk River Road.... that is a very long dirt road that goes on for over an hour and ends up at a Camping Area.  I wonder if the dumb police checked out that big dam beyond Lodgepole ... and considered searching that camping area at the end of Elk Rd.  Strange Bulmer blurted out that Road????  as if he was pre-disposed to involvement there???   So I snipped a map to show you guys.... and guess what;  it occurred to me that Vader may have been returning from Elk Road when he broke down.    I know if I lived around there, or I was Brett McCann, I surely would have hired a guide and cadaver dog to snoop around there back then.  I also wonder if that trip, by Vader, was done in the dead of night... then he had to wait all day around Lodgepole until Bulmer was off work... that would explain why he didn't return buddie's truck the same day he borrowed it?  just my thoughts!  don't mean to bore you.... I welcome anything to the contrary. 
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Other Alberta Locations / Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Last post by capeheart on May 18, 2016, 08:28:37 PM »
This trial sure has a lot of information or mis-information. It is good that it is by judge alone, because surely a jury would be so mixed up with the line of evidence here. It is going to be very interesting when it is all said and done.
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Other Alberta Locations / Re: Lyle and Marie McCann part 2
« Last post by jellybean on May 18, 2016, 06:31:51 PM »
Long article.  Crown prosecution ends and ties things together.

http://www.stalbertgazette.com/article/Crown-concludes-case-against-Travis-Vader-20160518

Crown concludes case against Travis Vader
Accused murderer's lawyer began calling witnesses this week
Wednesday, May 18, 2016 06:00 am
By: Doug Neuman

The Crown's case against accused murderer Travis Vader took much longer than expected, not concluding until near the end of the tenth week of the trial originally scheduled for just five.

Last week, however, prosecutors called their last evidence and defence lawyer Brian Beresh began to call the defence witnesses.

Vader is facing two charges of first-degree murder for the July 3, 2010, murder of St. Albert couple Lyle and Marie McCann, who were last seen that morning filling up their motorhome at a St. Albert gas station. Their motorhome was found burning near the Minnow Lake campground two days later, and the green Hyundai SUV they were towing was found abandoned July 16 in a field near Edson.

His trial, which began March 7, 2016, and was scheduled to last just five weeks, is now into its third month with, potentially, several weeks left to go. The Crown case relies primarily on circumstantial evidence, as there have been no bodies found, no weapon found, and the presumed crime scene was destroyed by fire.

“Bandana” Dave Olson
One of the witnesses who ties much of the other evidence together is “Bandana” Dave Olson, one of Vader's associates who lived in Peers, Alta., and saw Vader the day he's alleged to have murdered the McCanns.

He testified that Vader visited his house twice June 3, 2010. The first time he was driving a tan-coloured Ford F-350, and had no money. Vader was looking for money to put oil into the truck, but as Olson was broke he had to settle for lawnmower oil that Olson could spare.

Olson testified Vader left after a short time, then returned in the late afternoon around 5 p.m. driving a green Hyundai SUV – the same make and model as the McCanns' SUV – and this time had a roll of cash in his pocket.

“He sent me to the store to get a $25 phone card and to pick up some beer,” he said. “He sent me to the store with $50.”

Sales receipts and cellphone records entered into evidence show that the phone card was used to top up the phone Vader was using during that period of time. The beer Olson bought and drank with Vader, Boxer beer in cans, also links Vader to the SUV, because a can of Boxer beer containing Vader's fingerprint and DNA was found inside the vehicle.

Olson also described Vader as “agitated,” and said he kept talking about trying to contact Amber Williams. Cellphone records combined with Williams' testimony suggest Vader sent two text messages to Williams from the McCanns' phone about five hours after they were last seen that day.

Beresh attacked Olson's credibility and motives during cross-examination, even suggesting that he was financially motivated to testify and get involved with the RCMP's witness protection program. Olson testified he had received about $24,000 worth of money and expenses from the police, with much of that money spent relocating him to a new community.
He maintained he testified not for personal motivation, but rather out of a sense of goodwill.
“It was the right thing to do,” he said. “Those could have been anybody's grandparents.”
Donald Bulmer

Vader's former roommate and friend Don Bulmer gave evidence that would seem to incriminate Vader.

He testified that on a Sunday in mid-July, he got home from work to his McKay, Alta., home and got a message from one of his roommates that Vader was stranded in Lodgepole, Alta.,
and needed a ride.

Bulmer drove out to meet him in Lodgepole, and the two drove about 20 miles (32 kilometres) to a remote location near a gas plant near Elk River Road. Vader loaded several items from a truck there into Bulmer's truck, including a big-screen TV, some DVD players, some tools, some bedding and a few bags.

Vader and Bulmer then hooked that truck up to Bulmer's with a chain, pulled it out onto the road then pushed it down the hill. Bulmer said Vader asked him to pick him up at the bottom of a hill a few minutes later. When he did so, he saw the truck was “engulfed in flames.”
He also testified Vader had had guns, which Bulmer asked him to remove from his property, and said Vader had been to his house on July 5 or 6 driving a vehicle he thought might have been stolen, but said he hadn't had a good look at it because “I didn't want to know.”

Sheri Campbell
One of Vader's former romantic interests, Sheri Lynn Campbell, testified she had had a lot of contact with Vader in early July.

Vader had come to visit her at the house in Edmonton where she was staying on July 1, 2010, driving a truck with a tidy tank in the back. Other witness have described in more detail a Ford F-350 with a tidy tank Vader was driving in early July, which had been stolen and was found partially burned two weeks later.

She said Vader had sent her a text saying he was coming to the city and she invited him over. When he arrived the two went upstairs to a bedroom.
“We sat and chit-chatted for a moment or two, then lay down and went to sleep,” she said.
She said she woke up at 10 a.m., and Vader woke up “a couple hours later,” but under cross-examination and re-examination she was unclear on when he had left, or whether she had even been at the house when he left.

In the following days the two exchanged texts, many with a romantic theme.
She said she got a phone call from him July 10 from an unknown number saying he needed help and was in Lodgepole, Alta.

She also confirmed she received texts signed by “T,” a handle the Crown has suggested Vader used in texts but that Beresh has suggested he never used.

Campbell also testified that Vader didn't appear to be having money problems in early July, 2010, but acknowledged a text message she sent referring to Vader getting her “da goods” and her being ready to “hustle” and “get us some serious green” may have referred to drugs.

She said she had used meth with Vader prior to July, but didn't use when they met on July 1.

Wiretaps
Much of the Crown's case may hinge on the content of recordings taken of Vader in his cell and using the phone at the Red Deer Remand Centre.

Nine separate recordings were played for the court and entered into evidence. While two of those were calls from Vader to his sister Bobbi Jo, in which they discuss Vader's alibi for the first part of July 2010, there are also several recorded conversations between Vader and his cell mate.

RCMP Cpl. Mark Sloan testified a man named Elmer Cardinal had approached police offering to act as an agent, motivated by a financial desire to claim the reward the McCann family had offered for information relating to Lyle and Marie's disappearance.

While the conversations in the recordings are difficult to make out and are unintelligible in some places, there are points of the conversations that are more clear than others.
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n one, Vader can be heard describing the method which he would use to burn a truck.
In another one, Cardinal and Vader discuss his alibi for July 3, and note there are problems in that Bobbi Jo Vader's story and Sheri Lynn Campbell's stories don't match, and Cardinal suggests saying he saw Vader at “the bar” using the ATM.

“Yeah, we're going to have an airtight alibi,” Cardinal says at one point.

Outside the courtroom
Having already faced a bail review in relation to his release conditions, Vader has been since mid-April subject to additional conditions, including submitting to random drug tests and property searches.
Justice Denny Thomas also cautioned him that if he returned late from a break or from lunch one more time, he would revoke Vader's right to sit at the defence table and make him sit in the prisoners' box in the custody of sheriffs.

During the last week Crown presented evidence, however, Vader found himself back in police custody. He is now facing new charges of breaking and entering a west-Edmonton business on Tuesday and stealing less than $5,000 worth of property. He's also accused of being in possession of a stolen vehicle valued at less than $5,000 that same day. In relation to those charges, he's also charged with breach of probation and breach of a recognizance.
RCMP laid charges May 10 for two breaches of recognizance: one for testing positive for methamphetamines and another for contacting Crown witness Don Bulmer before he testified at the trial earlier this month.

While Vader is in custody, Justice Denny Thomas has nonetheless granted him permission to sit at the defence table during the trial, rather than the prisoner box.

This article summarizes the second half of the Crown's case against Vader. A summary of the first half, which was published April 16, 2016, can be read at www.stalbertgazette.com/article/Despite-many-delays-Vader-trial-has-covered-a-lot-of-ground-20160416.

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