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USA & Other / Re: Kyron Horman, 7, disappeared June 4, 2010, Portland Oregon
« Last post by Concerned on April 29, 2019, 10:46:17 AM »
Thanks @Debbiec. My guess is that since it says there have been 4,743 or so posts on the thread, that they are somehow still around albeit hidden. (When on this thread, a message in the URL says "Not Secure" while other pages don't have that warning.) Ironically, if you search his little name in Google (outside of this site), you get the same thing... crickets. Wouldn't be surprised to hear that any and all mention of the case has for some reason been scrubbed. But, by who? And, for why?  What saddens me is that maybe one day, hopefully, he might search his name. It would have been nice if he knew how much he was loved, searched for, and perhaps something in the details would click and make him seek help. (Remember the Hornbeck case? The online activity - knowing his family was still looking for him - kept him going.) There is always hope.

If he would ever find this thread... I think I would say to him.. find help, make it "home" and you will find so many will come to help. Reading over these types of stories, I am reminded that sometimes perps "groom" the child into thinking they can't come home because someone big and bad will hurt them or their parents and the child has to feel like a martyr and go it alone to save his family. Well Kyron, Sweet Pea, if you are out there... people are ready to help. Make it home. They'll take it from there.

Wouldn't it be nice if the DNA databanks were set up so that those that are missing are entered into the database... relatives DNA and all... so that alerts can register when a person receives medical care? I wonder how many children would be found? Especially when school requires vaccination records. Perhaps I'm just dreaming today... of a day, a way... Kyron can come home. You are not forgotten, little one (not so little anymore, hopefully).
USA & Other / Re: Kyron Horman, 7, disappeared June 4, 2010, Portland Oregon
« Last post by debbiec on April 28, 2019, 10:26:54 PM »
@Concerned: This started when we could no longer find the original thread for Kyron. Cape contacted me when she could not find it. I searched at that time and could not find it either.

I haven't commented on this case for a while, but did see a case tonight that seemed similar in the way he disappeared. I wanted to post it on there, but cannot find it. How do I find a case when I can't remember the name of the city he was from. Can someone tell me how to get that case up so I can comment on similarity in the disappearance of Kyron and this other case. It is just a comparison, the crime has been solved, but the body was never found. Thanks.

I'm at a loss on this one cape. I've searched this site over and can not find it either. There is no reason why it would ever have been taken off. It's not something that we normally even do with an open case.
Barrie / Re: FOUND - Penny Warne - 57 - Missing - Feb 11, 2009 - Wasaga Beach
« Last post by Concerned on April 28, 2019, 06:36:07 PM »
I was feeling a little meloncholy today, not quite sure why. It's spring and another change of seasons, I guess. I took a walk around the yard and noticed tulips where they weren't suppose to be; popping up in the middle of the lawn, between the bushes, peeking out from behind view. That's when I remembered that Penny's parents use to have tulips in their garden. They purchased a new plant every year they were together. Their tulips were so resilient and hardy. These Tulips today looked cute and carefree all over the lawn. Perhaps a squirrel carried them to their new destination; replanted them. Who knows.

My mind wandered from Penny's parents to Penny. I still feel so much relief that she was found. I wonder what it would be like if she were still here? I know people don't live forever, but does that mean that we can't wish they did sometimes? In mid-May it will be five years since Penny was found; 10 years since she disappeared. I know I've always said during our search that I just wanted to know that she didn't need to be found. That she wasn't hurting. I'm truly thankful for that. But, it is days like this that I always ask "Why?" A part of me still needs to know what happened. When they found her, the authorities spoke directly to her next of kin, her children, but not to Penny's siblings and family. We really didn't get the full story. Even if we did, I don't know if we ever really do get closure. None of us asked to be put in this position but have been left to deal with it in our own way. Sometimes, I just wish I could let it go....

But Penny is up in heaven with her parents, and we are down here with crazy and carefree tulips all over the yard. Replanted, and I don't know why. But, somehow I feel there is a message in that. I think I'll leave them be - cute and carefree.
USA & Other / Re: Kyron Horman, 7, disappeared June 4, 2010, Portland Oregon
« Last post by Concerned on April 28, 2019, 05:06:26 PM »
What happened to all of the posts on this thread?  The post says over 4,709 reads, and only two pages of posts. Those of us who cared so deeply for the welfare of this little boy wrote numerous posts, share many many links.

Kyron, we haven't stopped thinking about you and praying for your safety.
I have a thought.... The solution might be quite simple. Drug dealers,

I got to thinking about the area.  College, high school, student housing..... and woods as a meeting place to do the transactions.  Lunch hour - they would be
 waiting in the woods  for their customers.

A perfect set up for a drug dealer or dealers.

Valerie might have seen it take place, and she was turning back to college and was hit on the head to stop her from reporting it.

With this in mind, even the rest of the story now makes some sense to me.

Students would be afraid to "turn them in", so they kept quiet.


16 years later.....still no arrest

ONTARIO COLD CASE: Felix Barufe’s murder remains unsolved 16 years later
Square five gallon pail filled with loonies, toonies missing after murder
News Apr 26, 2019 by Dan McNee Listowel Banner

Felix Ulrich Barufe was killed as a result of blunt force trauma in his rural Howick Township residence in early 2003. His homicide remains unsolved to this day, although the case is still an active, ongoing investigation for the Ontario Provincial Police. - Courtesy of Huron County Crime U

After being alerted by a 911 call, Huron County OPP discovered the body of Felix Barufe is his rented farm house south of Fordwich on Feb. 6, 2003. It was later determined that the victim died as a result of blunt force trauma. - Marion Duke/Listowel Banner Phot

The Huron County Crime Unit petitioned the public seeking information about Felix Barufe's whereabouts from late January to early February 2003. Barufe drove two vehicles around the time of his murder: a 2001 Pontiac Grand Am GT (license plate number AMXA-881) and a 1999 Chevrolet S10 pickup truck (license plate number 868-5KE). - Courtesy of Huron County Crime U

An overview map detailing the Fordwich area, Felix Barufe's residence and the locations of evidence found. - Courtesy of Huron County Crime U
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When you’re talking rural Ontario, you can’t get much more rural than Howick Township.

With a population of approximately 4,000 people spread over a largely agricultural area in eastern Huron County, it goes without saying that Howick is generally a quiet place. Most of its residents live within the small communities of Wroxeter, Gorrie and Fordwich, and when foul play happens in those areas, it typically doesn’t go unnoticed.

The exception would be the case of Felix Ulrich Barufe.

The 24-year-old had rented a red brick house one concession south of Fordwich in late 2001 after previously living in the Shelburne and Orangeville areas. Eighteen months later, he was found dead in his home, a victim of blunt force trauma as the result of an altercation. Items had been taken from Barufe’s residence, but the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) Criminal Investigations Branch had little in the form of witnesses.
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Despite him living in the area for a year and a half, some of Barufe’s neighbours had never met him, and were shocked to learn that such a violent crime had happened only just down the road.

“We didn’t even know his name until after the murder had happened,” said one neighbour who has lived on their Spencetown Road farm for nearly 40 years. “We never met him physically. We saw his vehicles go down the road, and he had very nice vehicles.”

Police responded to the initial 911 call to 45576 Spencetown Road at approximately 9 p.m. on Thursday, Feb. 6, 2003. Barufe, who lived alone, was identified two days later, with the OPP immediately appealing to the public for assistance in the homicide investigation. A canine unit and members of the OPP’s West Region Emergency Response Team combed the area for evidence that weekend, while OPP forensic teams examined the house.

Possible motives behind Barufe’s murder were never disclosed to the public or media.

“As it is an ongoing investigation, the OPP will not discuss motive or speculate what it could be related to,” commented Huron County OPP communications officer Jamie Stanley.

As the days and weeks wore on, investigators began to uncover evidence that items had been taken from the scene of Barufe’s homicide.
I do hope that photos were taken of the rope used to bind Kelly Cook, and shared with investigators in other unsolved murder cases. With very little physical evidence from this case, what does exist becomes more important. Rope is not simply rope. Knots are not simply knots. It is good that investigators in the Victoria Crow Shoe case released the image of the rope and knots without letting too much time go by. Someone may recognize that rope and those knots. The knots appear to have some level of skill. Some knots are favored by individuals, and some individuals have unique methods of tying them. It can be a sort of signature if this technique and type of rope shows up again.

(Yes, I have spent too much time watching timber hitch knot-tying videos, because what else would one use in a campground near the mountains, as in Victoria's case?)
You guys;
I've always wondered if, once it was considered possible that the poi may have first set his goal for a figure skater - the blonde in the newspaper prior -did the investigators go back and question all possible people involved a any way (no matter how little the involvement) about the poi asking the first girl to babysit ... I mean, did he target a blonde girl? etc.   I wonder if this guy asked anybody at all, what Kelly looked like etc.   ... just a thought!  There is always the possibility that what this guy had perceived or fantasized what his blind date would be like, was not what he got... she wasn't his type.  (propensity for blondes?) He couldn't just return her home.... no cell phones back then, so he couldn't fake a phone call and make up an excuse that the baby sitting had to be called off for whatever reason, and he must take her back home.... it was too late!  he had to kill her anyway at such a point.  :(
Other Alberta Locations / Re: Adrienne McColl-21-Murdered-Feb.17/2002-Nanton,Alberta
« Last post by D1 on April 25, 2019, 06:20:59 PM »
I don't recall dna being found, but again we never heard much detail about anything including what was found in all those bags out on the ice. You are right, with all of that there should have been some useful forensics. There is a thread under Letain.
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