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The funeral home visitation was not set up or planned. A man merely walked in off the street, no appointment, no warning, and then just started demanding to see the body.

According T. Arnold's comments on Denise L.. ("wrong place wrong time") No preplanning, didn't know who she was, etc.. But interesting to note, it is obvious that T. Arnold was the perp, he lived right where her body was found, they have dna evidence to prove it, Denise's uncle was a ranking Calgary Police detective... yet... no charges were ever laid and no confirmation ever given to the public that T. Arnold was the killer. The case was just closed... Why? Why? Why? A can of worms wriggles just out of reach..

Basically the same went for Barb Stoppel.. T. Arnold was very obviously the perp in hindsight yet no charges were laid and no public acknowledgement given that T. Arnold was their man..

What chance has Kelly for truth or justice if T. Arnold is her killer? Its as uphill as you can get but I guess I am a bit of a closet optimist. There is a glimmer of hope, the door is ajar. I can only imagine how many prayers have been sent over the years, a half million viewers here alone could have provided the extra push for a new set of untarnished eyes.

Throw out that FBI behavioural analysis that generated the unfound perps profile..  Start again...  For starters, work backwards from T. Arnold.. Kelly would have been the first murder this man committed and maybe flew under the radar at the time.. Not so now.. There was a monster growing back then in that vicinity about to unleash terror all across N. America. None of us have heard the whole story about this guy and how he got away with so much for so long. This needs to be addressed by any investigator seeking the truth. Beware, something lurks!

   
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I think everyone here has been hoping Investigators would dig deeper. That's why we keep at this.

I really do believe that this investigation took a wrong turn at the beginning, perhaps because Clifford Olson was active at the time, although he had not yet been captured. I mentioned in the past how many people later became convinced he was responsible. Did this cause investigative tunnel vision? Olson used job ruses, and made use of rental cars, which would have all been late-model North American made cars in those days. Look at the composite sketch, even.

That person at the funeral home is very important. The person who saw him was not under hypnosis or any other influence. He saw what he saw. I have often wondered about the motivation for setting up that visitation. Who was it for? What was it for, and if it was a trap for the killer, why was it so poorly planned and executed?

I cannot get away from the murder of Denise Lapierre years later, just a short walk away, in the same area of the city as the funeral home. She was the niece of a Calgary police detective. Why her?

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The dna may never amount to anything. Or it could become like that in Sonia Varaschin. There is some action anyway, finally. One has to at least pretend that there is some hope left til proven otherwise.. There have been some half million plus views on Kelly's two threads here over the years. There was always a call for action but it took forever to get anywhere. Maybe its like one university professor used to say, a steady drip of water will wear away rock.

But its not all in the dna anyway no matter what. Remember the funeral home employee who followed the suspect from the funeral home.. He would be the person who should be shown photos of the supposed 40 plus poi the Police have on file. He had the best look at him and the most incentive to take note of details. Witnesses who know a crime has taken place and then see something or someone related to it are far better at recalling the detail than those that have no clue of any crime having occurred and there fore have no inclination to watch closely. Unfortunately the funeral home employee adamantly placed the age of the suspect much younger than the Police profile.. He was positive of it..

In the latest podcast, there are a few strange details, one being that the fbi were responsible for a profile that placed the age of the suspect older than he may have been. All else flowed and followed that.. Including inputs into later hypnosis sessions etc.. This has likely not changed in all the years the case has gone unsolved. Yet there is one younger person who has confessed and provided detail that should only be known to the killer. His dna is on file... DNA trumps and dispels all else that may have gotten in the way previously. There is a glimmer of hope at least. 
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They are saying that there is potential dna evidence to be had. The podcast is good, lots of information.. Even an offhand reference to this thread. We have been sluffed off though, too many suspects, too many theories so all lumped together and discounted.

The original target the figure skater speaks out.. She has become what T. Arnold claimed would happen to her if he killed Kelly. She would never be able to forget him.. He loved that thought... 

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“When I realized, like, this could have been me, that that was the big turning point of, ‘Wow, that could have been me,’” Stacey said.

The case has impacted every aspect of her life and will continue to until the killer is caught.

"Potential DNA" sounds a like a soft landing, another way of saying this case will not be solved now, based on the evidence.

This case was bungled in many ways at the beginning, IMO. Why wasn't a single police officer posted in the funeral home, for example? How hard would it have been to put an officer in a dark suit, looking like one of the funeral home staff? This was a high-profile unsolved murder of a minor.  Surely officers could have been doing surveillance of the various entrances/exits of the funeral home. Are we supposed to believe that this idea never occurred to anyone involved in the investigation? Bungled. Opportunity missed. The killer got away, which wasn't so hard, apparently. Heads should have rolled over that major gaffe.

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... beautiful logic faith!
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They are saying that there is potential dna evidence to be had. The podcast is good, lots of information.. Even an offhand reference to this thread. We have been sluffed off though, too many suspects, too many theories so all lumped together and discounted.

The original target the figure skater speaks out.. She has become what T. Arnold claimed would happen to her if he killed Kelly. She would never be able to forget him.. He loved that thought... 

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“When I realized, like, this could have been me, that that was the big turning point of, ‘Wow, that could have been me,’” Stacey said.

The case has impacted every aspect of her life and will continue to until the killer is caught.
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USA & Other / Re: Kyron Horman, 7, disappeared June 4, 2010, Portland Oregon
« Last post by debbiec on April 30, 2019, 09:53:12 PM »
Thanks lost :)
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Barrie / Re: FOUND - Penny Warne - 57 - Missing - Feb 11, 2009 - Wasaga Beach
« Last post by Have faith on April 30, 2019, 08:31:33 PM »
I was feeling a little meloncholy today, not quite sure why. It's spring and another change of seasons, I guess. I took a walk around the yard and noticed tulips where they weren't suppose to be; popping up in the middle of the lawn, between the bushes, peeking out from behind view. That's when I remembered that Penny's parents use to have tulips in their garden. They purchased a new plant every year they were together. Their tulips were so resilient and hardy. These Tulips today looked cute and carefree all over the lawn. Perhaps a squirrel carried them to their new destination; replanted them. Who knows.

My mind wandered from Penny's parents to Penny. I still feel so much relief that she was found. I wonder what it would be like if she were still here? I know people don't live forever, but does that mean that we can't wish they did sometimes? In mid-May it will be five years since Penny was found; 10 years since she disappeared. I know I've always said during our search that I just wanted to know that she didn't need to be found. That she wasn't hurting. I'm truly thankful for that. But, it is days like this that I always ask "Why?" A part of me still needs to know what happened. When they found her, the authorities spoke directly to her next of kin, her children, but not to Penny's siblings and family. We really didn't get the full story. Even if we did, I don't know if we ever really do get closure. None of us asked to be put in this position but have been left to deal with it in our own way. Sometimes, I just wish I could let it go....

But Penny is up in heaven with her parents, and we are down here with crazy and carefree tulips all over the yard. Replanted, and I don't know why. But, somehow I feel there is a message in that. I think I'll leave them be - cute and carefree.

Conccerned, you found new tulips ready to pop up in your yard that you never planted. It will be ten years since Penny went missing in less than two weeks. I would also take this as a message.  Penny wants you to truly find peace of mind, wants to thank you for caring, and wants you to know that she is in a good place.  She knows how much you love gardening. You will never know the answer to "why" until you two hook up in heaven. Love your flowers in the moment, and know that answers will come later.

One of your quotes:

"I remember the day I heard the news that they found Penny, I decided to go to a place that sold plants and flowers. You see after Penny went missing I never bought flowers for the garden because I figured if I had time to garden then I wasn't trying to find Penny. And, for six years we couldn't enjoy things when we knew she may need to be found. Gardening was one of those things I gave up..."

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Interesting little tid-bit...

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WATCH: The RCMP is taking a fresh look at a Calgary-area cold case. On the 38th anniversary of Kelly Cook’s abduction and murder, police are using advancements in technology to try and move the case forward. Nancy Hixt reports.

Does this mean they have DNA evidence from the murder? That's what "advancements in technology" usually means. It can also be a roundabout way of saying the case can't be solved now.
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Interesting little tid-bit...

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WATCH: The RCMP is taking a fresh look at a Calgary-area cold case. On the 38th anniversary of Kelly Cook’s abduction and murder, police are using advancements in technology to try and move the case forward. Nancy Hixt reports.
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