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Reading his judgement confirms my long-held belief that ordinary jurors like me and you, cannot fully grasp this level of legality re reasonable doubt in a murder trial based on circumstantial evidence. I think all murder trials should be heard by judge alone. I realize that any judge who errs in his instructions to the jury is grounds for an appeal (as in DO's case). But there is no recourse if the jury alone gets it wrong, and the jury doesn't have to explain their reasons for their verdict, as a judge has to. It doesn't seem fair or logical to expect ordinary citizens to fully understand what a judge knows, and vote accordingly.  moo

I tend to agree, Have Faith, although particularly in the case of a murder trial, I don't necessarily think it should be by one judge alone - perhaps a panel of two or three?  Of course the problem there would be, as happens sometimes in jury trials, getting them all to agree.   Often, perhaps more so than not, Supreme Court rulings will have dissenting opinions.  In the case of a trial the decision would definitely have to be unanimous or not at all.  Having said that, I am not suggesting that Justice Morrison did not do an excellent job.  The reasons he gave for his decision were well balanced and it would be extremely difficult, I think, to argue with anything he had to say.  I would not wish to have been faced with his dilemma.
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 The Olands were up against a brick wall. They may not have been screaming, but they publicly have stood behind Dennis from the start.


I must note that his immediate family are not united in their support of Denis- his mom, wife, and uncles certainly, but the use of the term 'Oland family' in this context of support is a misnomer, and the family division a stark and uncomfortable one.

I recall you saying that one sister never attended court from the start. I'll assume, based on your comment, that neither of DO's sisters was there to show support, nor was Dick's sister ever noted as being there. I missed that in the several relayed "family" statements to the media over the years. It doesn't sound like the "family" will heal and move on from this. A sad reality and no justice for Dick likely coming--ever.

It is sad. The focus is usually on Dick and Dennis's character as the main players in the saga but there are some really lovely people in that family, including the sisters and Connie. I don't want to think about what might go on in Connie's head when she's trying to sleep at night.
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 The Olands were up against a brick wall. They may not have been screaming, but they publicly have stood behind Dennis from the start.


I must note that his immediate family are not united in their support of Denis- his mom, wife, and uncles certainly, but the use of the term 'Oland family' in this context of support is a misnomer, and the family division a stark and uncomfortable one.

I recall you saying that one sister never attended court from the start. I'll assume, based on your comment, that neither of DO's sisters was there to show support, nor was Dick's sister ever noted as being there. I missed that in the several relayed "family" statements to the media over the years. It doesn't sound like the "family" will heal and move on from this. A sad reality and no justice for Dick likely coming--ever.
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 The Olands were up against a brick wall. They may not have been screaming, but they publicly have stood behind Dennis from the start.


I must note that his immediate family are not united in their support of Denis- his mom, wife, and uncles certainly, but the use of the term 'Oland family' in this context of support is a misnomer, and the family division a stark and uncomfortable one.
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there is no way every juror in a purely circumstantial evidence trial is going to realize what constitutes reasonable doubt, or what circumstantial evidence is valid, or how to decide if the overall evidence is enough to fill in enough missing pieces in the puzzle to decide on a guilty verdict.

Reading his judgement confirms my long-held belief that ordinary jurors like me and you, cannot fully grasp this level of legality re reasonable doubt in a murder trial based on circumstantial evidence.

I think that is a very sage take on the difficulty of criminal jury trials. Hard to argue that!
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/dennis-oland-murder-trial-decision-verdict-1.5215559?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

The judge's reasons for his ruling of not guilty are outlined in his full submission included in the above link. It is an eye-opener that every potential juror should read.

Assuming that he is correct in his reasoning to find DO not guilty, there is no way every juror in a purely circumstantial evidence trial is going to realize what constitutes reasonable doubt, or what circumstantial evidence is valid, or how to decide if the overall evidence is enough to fill in enough missing pieces in the puzzle to decide on a guilty verdict.

Reading his judgement confirms my long-held belief that ordinary jurors like me and you, cannot fully grasp this level of legality re reasonable doubt in a murder trial based on circumstantial evidence. I think all murder trials should be heard by judge alone. I realize that any judge who errs in his instructions to the jury is grounds for an appeal (as in DO's case). But there is no recourse if the jury alone gets it wrong, and the jury doesn't have to explain their reasons for their verdict, as a judge has to. It doesn't seem fair or logical to expect ordinary citizens to fully understand what a judge knows, and vote accordingly.  moo
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I also figured he would be found Not Guilty...too bad the case was bungled from the start.

So....New Brunswick investigators...get moving....you apparently have a killer that has gotten away with murder for eight years now.  I’m surprised that Dicks family hasn’t been screaming about the killer who got away...wow.


Defense lawyer Gold, at his press statements today said that there is no celebration of Dennis being found not guilty until such time that the real killer is caught.  Take that for what you think it is worth.

The Oland family offered to put up a reward early in the investigation. Chief of Police, Bill Reid refused the offer, saying we know Dennis did it. The police tunnel vision was evident from the day after RO was killed. It was also acknowledged by the judge in the preliminary hearing. The Olands were up against a brick wall. They may not have been screaming, but they publicly have stood behind Dennis from the start.

I think it is obvious that the family realized early on that their first priority was to fight for DO through the investigation and trials by relying on their defense lawyers and the justice system.  Now they can turn their attention to who killed RO. 

But this will be difficult, if not impossible for the family.  The SJP will never admit that they may have arrested the wrong person. They will never cooperate and share information with any outside investigative team hired by the Oland's.  A family reward at this time, without SJP cooperation will be useless if tips aren't followed up on by LE.  Add to that, Crown prosecutors will never admit that they prosecuted the wrong guy.

It does appear that nobody seemed to care about poor Dick (and maybe they don't) but I can understand how their first priority was focused on Dennis. jmo








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 I do believe Dennis is not guilty of the crime. He has gone through two trials and it is hard to believe that this has gone on for eight years, it seems like maybe two or something.  I believe the citizens of N.B. have to believe in the justice system and move on.  I did believe in this trial he would be found Not Guilty.  I mean put yourself in his place, anyone out there. No proof whatsoever of this man committing this crime, all circumstantial evidence. It could have been anyone who had an anger issue against the victim. He was a shrewd business man and known not that easy to get along with.  I stand by the Judge's decision and wish Dennis Oland all the best in the future and to his family who have endured two trials and years of going through all of this.  I hope the public accepts the decision in this matter and everyone embraces Dennis in the community.
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I also figured he would be found Not Guilty...too bad the case was bungled from the start.

So....New Brunswick investigators...get moving....you apparently have a killer that has gotten away with murder for eight years now.  I’m surprised that Dicks family hasn’t been screaming about the killer who got away...wow.

I think that has always been one of the things about this whole circus that has bothered me most, jobo.  Even though he may not have been the easiest person in the world to get along with, no one really seems to care or give a thought to the victim.  Ironic really, considering the way the whole thing has played out.
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I also figured he would be found Not Guilty...too bad the case was bungled from the start.

So....New Brunswick investigators...get moving....you apparently have a killer that has gotten away with murder for eight years now.  I’m surprised that Dicks family hasn’t been screaming about the killer who got away...wow.
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