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Barrie / Re: Alexandra Flanagan - 33 - Murdered - July 2007 - Barrie, ON
« on: December 29, 2009, 09:24:33 PM »
Diane, my whole heart and prayers for you and your family. Your words make me want to ask our thinkers...what information can we compile, sort through, look for likenesses, what profiles can enlighten us, what similarities and mapping can create patterns, questions, and items to follow up on?  How can we all become more aware of our surroundings and others, of area perpetrators, of motivators, of preventors, so that we can see the signs, question them, report them, investigate them. The more someone can provide profile descriptions of what kind of person can murder a 70 year old woman, or a 33 year old woman, or a 57 year old woman. Without a trace. Without a clue. The anatomy of disappearance.  What time frame from the time they disappear to the time of murder? Where are they taken? For how long? For why? To hear and learn more about these types of things might get us closer to our answers. To finding the individuals responsible. To thwart future occurrences. To understand and to find peace. To become more aware. To report the items we have learned may have significance. To care. To make a difference. To correct. Somehow find peace. I wish this for you, as your writing has a voice we all wish we could express. Your mother has a very loving advocate. Your children have a brave mother and they need you. Our hearts are with you on your journey. I am saddened for your pain and your loss. I believe your mother and Ms. Flanagan, and countless others are worth more than to be forgotten, lost, and unresolved. They deserve the respect. We need the protection. We need to know their lives were worth something. They deserved a chance. Love.

Merry Christmas, our dear Penny. It has been a heart-breaking 10 months without you. We don't know if you are ok. If you need us. How to find you. But we are trying. It is very hard not knowing if you are ok. People can't just move on when someone you love is missing. There is a piece of us that needs to know where to find you. What happened to you. Why. You are such a warm and loving individual. You lived your life that way. Honestly. With heart. With compassion. With love. We need to know you are ok, up in heaven, or where we can look for you here. How we can find you, here. I don't know how anyone can harm someone, especially you. In our hearts, we know you didn't fall into the river, for how many years have you lived by the river and known how to be safe. Besides, who leaves their house in a winter storm with a housecoat and boots, no coat. Surely not you. You wouldn't have left your dog stranded outside for days in cold without food or shelter. That is just not you. So what does that leave us? How do people just disappear, leaving everything behind? Why do they disappear? Why you? What are the possible theories? Someone had to have heard of something, seen something, witnessed something, know something. Is there a pattern in the area? Is there a perpetrator in the area? How many people your age are missing without a trace and with absolutely no clue? Why? Can't dates be tracked? What patterns need to be studied for answers? We don't believe you left on your own free will. If you should stumble on this message, no matter what your situation, we need a clue as to how to find you. We will figure it all out from there. We know you know you are loved, but just in case you need a reminder...we love you. We miss you. We need you home. Or, in the least we need to know. We haven't stopped looking for you. And, if someone decided to harm Penny, would you please have the compassion to in the least let us find her and bring her home. Let us find her. Help us find her. Anyone?

I am new to this site, so I am unfamiliar with how best it works. Maybe you can find some place on the site where this may be of assistance, to even one, if helpful.  I ran across a resource that may be of help to many searching for their loved ones. There is a video on how it works. It is developed so loved ones can perform research on a wide database. It seems to be a wonderful concept.  I don't know how wide and broad it is, but I can't help but feel some relief that it is out there. It appears to be created by the US Department of Justice. But has postings of people found unidentified and people missing from other countries. Canada and US are neighbors. We all know, too, that sometimes our cases cross borders. Here it is if it can help any of the site visitors. Even one would be worth it. My heart is with everyone searching.
The video describing it:
The resource:

Happy Birthday, Penny.  You were absent on Mother's Day. You were absent at your daughter's wedding. No one knows how to wish you a happy birthday, today. We get the message--you need our help. Strength, peace, love today. We are trying, we just don't know where to find you. We won't stop.

To Im-new-here, I didn't hear about the little boy that had gone missing in Wasaga around the same time Penny was missing. Did they find him? Are there any more details?

I read a story this morning about a suspcious man near kids in Kincardine where a suspicious male was parked in a gold minivan looking at children playing at Lions Park.  The guy was traveling with a woman in her 30's. The story can be found at .

It reminded me of a story in April where a woman driving a late-model gold coloured van offered to give a Wasaga Beach child a ride to school on April 30.  The gold van had stopped in the pathway that connects a trail to school with a nearby elementary school, Birchwview Dunes. That story can be found at .

I wonder if they are connected in any way. In the least, perhaps gold coloured vehicles can be investigated. I can't imagine too many of them being popular, so it should be a fairly easy find.

Capeheart, your words and thoughts are appreciated. I believe the police honestly want to find the missing, and we want them to. If only we knew what kind of equipment they were lacking, what kind of laws would better assist them, what kind of community support measures are helpful, I think it is worth every effort we all make to pay it forward.  I can't help but think if more businesses, homes and intersections had more surveillance camaras details of crimes would be pieced together better. ONE national directory, publicly accessible, about crimes, missing, murdered would help connect people to patterns and crimes. Required public disclosure of offenders residents would bring about awareness and appropriate measures for the public to take to protect themselves and their loved ones.  I think the public is owed the respect of being able to be aware and to be concerned when in the presence or vacinity of a known criminal, not to mention it may prevent crimes.  Delays in notification to other policing authorities are unacceptable. For instance, when a child like Ms. Stafford goes misisng, border patrol and surrounding police authorities should be alerted that moment, not wait two weeks for local authority to investigate, then wait two weeks for OPP to announce possible foul play. This is procedure now, but if we look at it with open eyes and hindsight could a difference have been made if all the authorities were alerted immediately? Are we wasting our legal authorities' time by waiting an inappropriate amount of time before helicopters, all-terrain, water and ground patrols are called in two weeks after, when statistics are telling us that the crime may have been committed  within the first few days? If so many bodies are being discarded in fields and Canada's vast stretches of farm land and woods are troublesome in find the missing, then what better technology exists to find the people in these circumstances?  Is it acceptable to have so many people being found dead in our rivers and our beachfronts.  What if we had national registries for food banks, homeless shelters, the missing and unidentified, as well as registries for those that rent cabins and cottages or motel/hotel rooms?  These databases could be used to help be more efficient in looking at travel patterns and in finding missing.

More sophisticated computer technology and access to technology, might, for instance allow the OPP to better research the internet date Desespere mentions.  If they had access to Penny's computer and knew of an internet date, for instance, why can't they seek all access to his computer and his online communications in the site and other dating sites or emails he may be on. Talk to the dates he went on and see if they were comfortable dating him. 

Also, more needs to be done to research what actually happens to the missing so that more can be learned and more pocedures and investigations can be made to prevent them from taking more  community members in the future. For instance, some abductions seem to be drug based, some seem to be random sexual crimes, some are serial, some come from repeat offenders that have a circular pattern of repeat assault, some seem to be part of a group of traffickers.  Are the sentences long enough? Rehabilitation successful? Is enough being done to prevent escalation, prevent crimes?  What role can the public take.  How can we raise our children better? How can we get helpf for those that display inappropriate behavior before it escalates? What task forces can be created to look at these issues, research the best practices worldwide, and instill these practices so Canada is number one in detrring its growing number of those that go missing or those found dead.

And lastly, we have to look at ourselves. Are we feeding the drug trade? Are we feeding the sexual trade? Are we not addressing behavioral problems in people that develop to believe that sexually assaulting or abducting someone is OK? Are we letting perpetrators off too easy? Are there better ways of finding perpetrators and we aren't changing because we didn't pursue technology, prevention, changes in public policy, etc...  Or, we were too busy to care.

When we are affected by a missing person, we realize how very important it is to care. How important it is to make a difference. There are no words to explain the pain of tryng to find someone you love. Where do you look? What if they need you? What if they are being harmed and helpless? What if you didn't do enough to find them? What if you never find them? What if you find them and its too late? Why are we watiting to find them, they shouldn't have gone missing in the first place.

If this is so, how safe are area residents if they can't find those responsible for Penny missing. How safe is Penny. What chance does she have of coming home. How often does this happen. Why isn't there any word on her. Someone has to know something. Are we suppose to just accept that people go missing? What better equipment. What better ways to investigate. What better ways to find someone sooner. What better ways to prevent. What can be done so others aren't found missing without a clue. What can be done. Penny is a kind person. She deserves to be found.

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