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Sorry I forgot to mention one more fact about the boot print. The type of boot print would give a lot of information about the origin of the owner. Typically forestry workers would either wear a caulked boot (spikes on bottom for steep terrain) during working hours and/or have a boot with a vibram sole (which would typically be stamped on the bottom of the boot in a yellow square which may or may not show up on the print depending on quality of the print). Less expensive hiking boots at the time normally did not have vibram soles but higher end, work quality mountaineering boots would have. To any extent, the tread patter of forestry related boots would be aggressive and deal threaded (depending on age of boot) for the Revelstoke area but other industrial boots (mechanical, shop or plant related) may not have such an aggressive and deep tread. I'm not a forensic expert but I would think there would be a lot of other more complex details that could be attained from the type of tread (locally bought for example) and the wear pattern (walking pattern of the individual). I know this may be a long shot from one boot print taken 17 years ago but it may narrow down an age group, weight, height, profession, etc.

Hello everyone. It's been awhile since I've been back to this sight and came across it last night while looking up some stuff about Revelstoke and re-read all the posts. There was one thing that I read but was unsure where the information came from as there is a bit of confusion as to its origin. The piece of information I am referring to is the size 11 boot print. Some have speculated that it may have come from the logger who found the vehicle and that seem to be that about it. Well Anna and Sherlock established that the vehicle was discovered by RCMP helicopter and RCMP were first on scene. I can't imagine them creating the boot print then documenting it so that leads me to believe this boot print was potentially created by someone exiting the vehicle or around the vehicle before it was  officially discovered. Now this would be no knew information in itself as many have hinted to the fact that this boot print may have come from someone involved. The part about the boot print that seems odd to me is the fact that it is a "BOOT" Print and not a "SHOE" print. Most of the suspicion around Brianne's disappearance has revolved around locals so called around her age. At the time in small town Revelstoke I think I can safely say that most teen-age males (assuming size eleven boot was male) and males in there twenties and early thirties would probably be wearing some sort of running shoe (Nike, Reeboc, etc) on a typical Saturday night especially if they were out on the town so to speak. Not many people chose boots to typically normally wear unless that was there common foot wear. To me this suggests either an older male or one that worked in an industrial setting in the town (CPR, the Mill or a Forestry setting). This by no means is conclusive evidence, but it seems odd to me that young adults around Brianne's age normally wore boots on a Saturday night during a very hot and dry summer. As I have stated before, 1998 was a bad fire season and there was a lot of extra fire fighters not typically from Revelstoke in the area at the time and most were camping out and not staying in hotels. This could explain a male boot print as typically wild land firefighters would be working very long hours each day and not get off work until 8:00 to 10:00 pm. The latter part of the paragraph is heavy speculation but it is one explanation for someone wearing an eleven sized BOOT print on a Saturday night on a labour day weekend just before school started. Hope this opens people minds to look at clues at face value without assuming previous accusations or speculations.

Yes that all seems correct and yes there would be less chance seen if one takes the hardway unless you meet someone coming down the hardway. Very narrow steep grade. Really only room for one vehicle to pass at a time.

The picture of the car in the police garage has the headlights up. I am pretty sure those old flip top lights were on when they were flipped up. I highly doubt the police would have turned them on after especially if they said he battery was dead from the door being open. So I would think it is safe to say the lights were left on. Does not sound like if someone wanted to ditch a car in the middle of the night with loggers soon driving the road in the early hours of the morning they would leave such a beacon. Display even if they were trying to stage the vehicle.

I don't remember if lights were left on or off. I did read where the ignition was turned off and passenger door left open and battery dead. You are right about looks like occupant(s) left either in a hurry or either intoxicated or bumped head and just up and abondoned the vehicle. Under normal or planned circumstances it is usually instinctive to shut the door without even thinking about it. Only other circumstance that the doors would be left open is if the vehicle was pushed over the bank by two people holding doors open.

Hard to say for certain, but yes quite possible. At that point in the road you can drive in on direction back to Revelstoke or you can drive in the other direction and turn onto the hard way and get back to Revelstoke also. It is like a big loop right there. The hardway is a rough, steep section but if driven slow, a two wheel car can go up and down. Have done it in my car but it is rough on it. One could even speculate that the car have accidentlly driven past the turn off onto the hardway while driving back towards Revelstoke, would have tried to turn around by the 18 km mark because it is well known that the hardway is at 19 km but the markers on the tree are not very visible at night.

The vehicle I have read was located at the 18 km mark on the road that you drive from Revelstoke. At kilometer five, is echo lake, a very popular swimming hole, bush party and camping spot. However at kilometer 7.5 on that same road you can turn off on the 'hardway' (a shortcut branch in the road) and drive down approximately 1 kilometer and you come out at kilometer 19 on the same road where briannes car was. So yes, from where her car was, echo lake is only about 4.5 kilometers away if you drive down the hard way shortcut eitherwise it would be a 13 kilometer drive. One kilometer away from where her car was parked is the akokolux falls. Not a swimming hole but again a bit of a bush party hang out. Also there is a trail into a view spot over looking the water falls. Quite impressive falls.

Ya I read that a beach towel was found also. Not many so called beach areas to swim in Revelstoke compared to other towns of bc but 1998 was a warm summer. Popular swim holes were/are Williamson lake (adjacent to airport on way out to echo lk), Echo lake, Martha ck provincial park (twenty minutes north of revy up highway 23 N) and blanket ck provincial park (south of revy on west side of Columbia down by galena bay ferry). Of these spots, echo lake and martha ck would be the most popular for after hour swimming partying. 
There was also two popular cliff jumping spots approximately five minutes and fifteen minute north of revy along the Columbia river. One is called water world and it is just south of Martha creek (fifteen minutes north of revy) The other is adjacent to the Revelstoke dam on the east side of the reservoir (five minutes north of revy). The spot by the dam was very popular at the time for teenagers to party at on weekends and build a fire beside. Fire crews were often called out on Monday mornings to put out these camp fires that the kids would try to kick off the cliff to put out. To be honest with you, the spot was very popular in mid to late nineties for such activity, then just seem to fade off the radar. Possibly a generational thing.

Revelstoke in 1998 was a small, close knit town. I would say drugs were one of the biggest so called crime issues of the day. Being smack dab on the trans Canada highway between Calgary and Vancouver made it a convenient pit stop for such an underground element. Besides the drugs, I do not recall many other major criminal element. There was the after hour biker bar, run by a well known biker group, up across from the super save that people usually went to after the bar closed. So to me any criminal element by locals at the time I would speculate that murder was not a frequent practice, thus making me believe that it probably would have been somewhat accidental or non intentional. I can definitely see why one would dumped the car out there. Very few houses along the way, very secluded, thick forested, etc.  Like I had mentioned earlier, 1998 was one of the worst fire seasons on record for Revelstoke, second to 2003. At that time there were a lot of fires north of town and south of town, but on highway 23 south towards galena bay. A lot of extra  vehicles would be traveling most of the back country roads north and south of Revelstoke. The two other major entries in and out of Revy were east and west on the transcanada highway. Always busy night and day. I do not remember many fires up the akokolux drainage in 1998, thus making it a low traffic stretch of road at the time. There we also a lot of bush party destinations along the way. An area called the 'flats', often also called six mile and twelve mile, was flood plain adjacent to the Columbia river which was one of the most popular grad party spots in Revelstoke and it is on the way out to Echo lake. Revelstoke was also filled with a lot of out of towners at that time. Not only from the ball tournament and junior B hockey game that night but also from the hundreds of extra fire fighters that were there fighting the fires. I hope this info can bring new light onto a cold case.

I forgot to mention that the road does maintain somewhat the same elevation and condition for quite awhile after where it was found. At that time of year it could have travelled quite a bit further south. The road for the most part was a well travelled and graded road for logging trucks to easily travell on.

It has been a few years since I have been up there, but from what I remember the road that forks at 12 km goes up to around 36km due mostly east ( bunch of old cutblocks up there then ends, that road is the akokolux I believe). It does fork a few times up there and mostly just leads to old cutblocks. The road where Brianne's car was found, Macrae main I believe heads south and east. Many branches down latter. Macrae area is a very popular hiking and back country ski area. I also believe if you keep heading south you can connect or get close to the old Arrowhead townsite that was flooded out and abandon in the sixties when the dams were built. I have not travelled that far down there but it can be seen on Backroads mapbooks.

You may be right JB, but I can't stop thinking about how the vehicle was left. The doors carelessly left open, in the open somewhat without camouflage along a busy logging road at the time, coolers, smokes, beer left behind, mirror screwed as if someone was crossing to passenger side to get out. Seems too staged for an amature to go to all that trouble to make it look like an accident yet leave no trace of body. If the perp was trying to make it look like Brianne had been in the area I doubt he or she would spend so much time in area to make everything perfect. I definitely do not rule out foul play, but logically speaking two highly probable scenarios keep coming back to me.

Scenario 1: Brianne drove out there for whatever reason (to go to party at the falls or drop off someone at the party) and got mixed up on how to get back to Revelstoke because of the many branches in the road in that particular area. Tried to turn vehicle around on narrow road and drove off down bank. Once on foot in the dark it would be very easy to get lost. If she walked. back towards revy, there is a good chance she would have missed the switchback at 12km and went straight up the akokolux and headed east away from Revelstoke. Road goes up at least to 35 km mark I believe. A lost person can easily get distressed and panic can set in. I know, I've been temporarily lost in the bush many times. You end up retracing or curling the path you have taken many times. For me this distress usually sets in after a couple of hours of traveling and not seeing anything familiar. On a logging road most people can travel around a kilometer ever eleven or so minutes. That would be approximately ten to twelve km's from where you started from. Now if she is starting to panic, the one thing that keeps going over in your mind is you need to see where you are in the big picture so you want to get to high ground. She may have wanted to get to high ground in an attempt to see echo lk, the Columbia river or even possibly a peak like Cartier or begbie which are very familiar to locals (although not likely being so far up the valley). The akokolux drainAge is a steep, rough, ugly terrain to navigate. Very easy to scale up an area and loose footing and roll ankle or more serious injury making it difficult to make your way around. Come late August temps overnight start to drop especially in areas of cold air drainage from steep peaks and glaciers which is what the akokolux valley is like. 1998 was a bad fire season in revy and September had clear skies, warm temps in the day but clear cold nights after dark. Hypothermia can easily set it especially the high up in elevation you are. In my mind it is highly likely and highly probable. Would be very difficult for a team of eight professional search and rescue to cover that much area not to mention difficult to conduct a grid search in such steep ugly terrain even for highly trained, young, in shape professionals. Not to mention they probably concentrated along roadside and the akokolux river. Would take weeks and weeks to thoroughly search a 12km radius area by hundreds of volunteers in that terrain. If Brianne was hurt in that area, a search team did not even start looking for her for five days. That is a lot of cold nights unfortunately.

Scenario 2:  if foul play did occur, and the perp was driving Brianne's car and was trying to turn the vehicle around, then it is highly likely had they drove off the road in an attempt to turn around and got stuck then I believe they would be in a big hurry to get as far away from that vehicle as fast as hey could and would not attempt to fluff the scene especially if Brianne had been in the area. Two areas come to mind in that area to get rid of any evidence. One  slow the akokolux falls, and two off the steep cliff approximately 1-2 km away up the hard way. One would think that the police having a helicopter in the area would have checked out the bottom of the cliff but only they would know. Would be difficult for untrained ground crew to check it out without ropes. Maybe able to come in from below. Not sure never tried. Very high cliff though that looks down over akokolux river below.

I am new to this site but have read all the postings so far. I lived and worked in the  back country of Revelstoke for many years and remember when Brianne went missing.  A link  brought me to this page and i became intrigued after reading many pistings 

After reading all the posts about the where and how the car was situated on the FSR, whether it was dumped, staged, pushed off, driven off, etc I wondered why no one has considered if the vehicle was trying to turn around and drove down the small embankment accidentally. I am familiar with the area and know that near that particular km mark on the road, a locally know short cut emerges onto that road at 19km called 'the hard way'. It is a very steep, rough section that you turn onto at 7.5 km off echo lake road and emerges back onto echo lk FSR (Macray at that point i believe) at 19km mark just before the bridge and dam above the akokolux falls. One who is not familiar with the area can easily get turned around and confused. The road also branches at I believe 12 km where it changes names (macray main I believe). The falls was a well known place for bush parties which is right at 19km. Coming down the 'hardway' there is also a well known view point near the top which has a very high cliff. Not sure if any of this information is helpful. My hearts goes out to the family and friends of Brianne.  :)

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