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I don't believe her, she wouldn't know.  The police don't tell anyone anything about any case they are investigating, to parents, friends or whatever. If they have an arrest in the near future, nobody knows until they put the cuffs on the individual. So she is talking through her hat. They could be telling her anything to keep her off their backs.  If Terri is arrested for this case, I will be totally surprise and would venture to say, that I would not be a totally convinced that it was an honest and above board investigation. I would be thinking that evidence was planted in some way to convict her. It will be interesting to see how it all turns out in the future. I believe a stranger took Kyron that day. If we could only see the clues and tips that came in that day on Kyron's being missing. If we only could see the hundreds of clues that must have been reported that day. It would be interesting if the police would just list 50 hot clues that they couldn't get to solve that day. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I am wondering about wild animals in the area, other then 2 legged ones.  I mean there could have been foul play, but there was a snow storm that night, bad weather.  Would there be a body of water around there that he could have fell in or someone could have committed a crime and put his body there.  This sounds kind of a cooked up story about Ryan. I mean he was there with friends, what is the odds of him just walking out in bad weather to walk home. It doesn't sound right to me.  More detailed investigation should be done with everyone at that party.  There is too much crime happening these days and people getting away with too much, because of poor investigations. :( :( :( :( :( :(

In the early stages of this thread, I had mentioned that I thought Sonia may have been watched by someone in the neighborhood that knew she lived alone.  The facts of taking her body from the scene of the crime and taking the time to remove her body and take it to the area that he did, surely could mean that he is familiar with the area and the knowing of her movements. He would know that it wasn't possible that someone was going to walk in on him. He would know that she would be alone at the hour he committed the crime.  In other crimes there has been profiles done that when the perp removes the body from the scene of the crime, that he removes her from the closeness of the area where she or he resided.  I just watched a show on Dateline of a crime that was committed and a female murdered, she also lived alone. The perp removed her body from the home, took her in her own vehicle and then drove her vehicle back to her home. He put the car in the garage, cleaned up the scene of the crime and left.  That crime has not been solved.  They did look at an ex that she lived with in that home, but there was unknown DNA found, so this excluded him from the murder.  There could have been someone living in Sonia's neighborhood that was a temporary resident of Orangeville. He could have been working from another province, country or whatever.  He could also be still living in that area.  It would be interesting to know how many unsolved assaults and murders have been committed that are in that area. The same MO.  I would say someone has to know something about this crime and is keeping a secret, about a friend, brother, someone knows who killed this young woman and they should call Crime Stoppers in their area. They do not have to give any information as to their name, just give information that could be the clue in solving this crime.   :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

General Discussion / Re: McDonald's Murderer Investing Money
« on: May 24, 2018, 02:22:11 PM »
I totally agree, anyone who commits cold blooded murder should spend the rest of their days behind bars.

General Discussion / Re: McDonald's Murderer Investing Money
« on: May 20, 2018, 08:40:05 PM »
It was the most horrific time for us in Sydney and the people in Cape Breton and most of our provinces in Canada. It was a nightmare case and we all remember where we were and what we were doing when we found out about this. I will never forget it, because I was working at the court house at the time and remember the day they bought them in. There were crowds outside the court house, yelling and screaming and I can still remember all of that. They should never be able to make one penny and if they did, it should be turned over to the people who were victims of these murders and the ones who were injured. That is my comment on the whole horrible crime. Nobody here will forget, nobody. They even tore the McDonald's restaurant down, where the crime happened. 

Other Alberta Locations / Re: Steven Duggan missing from Banff
« on: May 11, 2018, 01:43:34 PM »
I believe he was murdered. I do wish that young men and women would be so careful about their financial activities. I mean if anyone knows you have any money on you in this day and age, you are at risk. Always act like you have enough for a few drinks, never open your wallet and just take a reasonable amount of money for the evening. I have had money stolen on me and at a place I would not expect it, because there were other people in the home that night. I just left my purse in a bedroom, I thought was okay. There was not one cent in my purse the next morning and I knew I had 35.00 in it, not a lot. But it was by chance that I took over 200.00 out of my purse before I went, because it was Christmas time. So never let on that you carry funds. There is a thread on here related to a young man who is from Nova Scotia, he was last seen going to cash a cheque, he did hitchhike, because it was a rural area,  he was never seen again and they still don't know what happened to him. I don't believe a wild animal got this man. Like someone said, he was not one to go around these areas alone. When the situation does not fit and you have a gut feeling about something, this is possibly a murder.  Also in that area, like you say, they do not want to let the public know how much crime goes on in those tourist areas, pathetic. Crimes should not be covered up and the public should know about it.  It's like cruise ships, there are hundreds of bad things happen, but we never hear of it. :( :( :( :( :( :(

When they start telling the excuses like they belonged to some far fetched incel group or something, I don't buy all that at all.  They just want to give an excuse and make themselves known for supporting some sick motive for what they did.  The fact that this guy just picked on the name of the guy in California who committed murder and violence and then shot himself and blamed it on women, is a sick, sick, sick idea. It is because they hate women, that is the reason. The guy in California, he was a very attractive man and I am sure he had no problem getting a date. I would bet anything that if friends of his were interviewed, that he dated women. So I am not buying all this stuff at all.  The only reason the guy in Canada couldn't get a date, is possibly because he didn't respect women and didn't treat them right. I am not convinced of any of this cooked up motive, I call it.  That is my opinion.  He just hates people and premeditated murdering people on the street, a terrorist attack, that is what was on his mind and I don't think it had anything to do with that group.

I did watch the show tonight and my heart goes out to her family. This was the most evil of crimes that I ever heard against a young woman. To think that four grown men abducted a young innocent woman in the morning and brutally raped and murdered her, they deserve to have the death penalty, but they did not. They can rot in jail and the am sure Satan will be waiting for them at the end of the road, they have to be possessed by the devil. God bless Holly's mom and dad and the family members, justice has been handed down and still another has to go through a trial. An unbelievable crime, so very sad. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Have Faith, actually, I do not think they have one iota of evidence to take Terri to court on any charges at all. I mean they have to be the worst investigators in the world, if all the time and effort that was spent on this case and she was not taken to court on anything, the woman is innocent of any wrong doing, that is my opinion.  I mean it could be any one of us that was constantly in the limelight for eight years of rumors and suspicion, but she doesn't deserve this kind of life. I just don't get it at all, if she is guilty of anything, they have to be the worst police in the world.

Today is April 21, 2018 and the story about Holly is on 20/20 tonight, according to my schedule and that is on ABC.  I do believe I saw it before, not sure, but am going to watch it again tonight. I know it is a horrible and tragic story of a beautiful girl abducted.  I send my prayers to her family and to the investigators that had to go through this also. RIP, Holly.

Have Faith, I know there has been all these stories, but where is the hard evidence that Terri did any of these things, absolutely none, because if there was there would be charges. The police just do not have evidence that can take Terri to a grand jury on these allegations. I firmly believe that someone has been possibly not happy with Terri in the past, be it an ex or whatever and wants to sink her ship. I mean if the diappearance of a little boy seven, is not going to get investigators motivated to lay charges, what will.  I am totally convinced that this investigation was off the rails from the getgo and that the real abductor got away with Kyron.  I am not saying Terri may not be guilty of some shady actions, but I don't believe she did anything to Kyron. We don't know all the clues that were out initially in this case and I would bet there are thousands that possibly has the major one that failed to be followed up on to find out what happened to Kyron.  It stands to reason, if she did any of these things (and they have tried to find something to stick) well something would have stuck. Therefore, I feel the case in the beginning took a wrong turn and never got back on the right road.  That is my opinion on Kyron's disappearance.  It is a great mystery that I am sure we all think about on this site. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

To think that if it wasn't for the children, someone may have gotten away with murder. What a flawed initial investigation by the police, unreal and scary for the family.  I wonder how many unsolved cases there are in Ontario. I know the police are overwhelmed with violent crimes in a big city. A horrible crime such as this surely would not look like murder suicide, how much education in homicide would the detectives have, they'd better go back and take a few updated courses in that field. :( :( :( :( :(

I always feel in my mind that the police do have a suspect in mind. I think they just haven't got the one piece to arrest that person.  Something just does not fit, that through all of the investigation that has gone on for eight years, that nobody has been arrested in this high profile murder.  It certainly was at the top of their list to solve this crime.  I believe they have to have fresh eyes go over every clue that they have received and there must be thousands.  There could be just one little piece of information that fresh eyes could pick up.  They have to be overwhelmed with information.  They always say in the first few days of a crime, if they don't get a good lead, it doesn't take long to go cold. I think they have to start right from the evening of the crime and do it all over again, every tidbit of information that was given to them.  Thoughts and prayers to those involved, officers and family, trying to get justice for Sonia.

USA & Other / Re: US Family of four vanishes in Mexico
« on: April 04, 2018, 03:16:13 PM »
Mexico is a place that is not to be trusted in any way. I wonder if this is really the cause of the deaths of these people. I never heard of it before, carbon monoxide poisoning is a cause, but this is a mystery. :o :o :o

It is very sad that Ryan went missing, but we have heard of many instances like this. People think it is okay out in the snow and wind, but when they get out there, it is very confusing which direction they are going. I am not familiar with the area he went missing, but if there are any hills he could have fell down and hit his head or something and the snow just covered him over, they may find him very close by when the snow melts. God bless his mom, she must be devastated without knowing what has happened to him.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

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