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The DNA that time was non existent so to say. I think there could have been some people who had instincts of who may have committed this crime and did not want to come forward. They may have been afraid of naming someone that they were suspicious of.  Many times crimes would be solved if people did come forward with their concerns.  I really believe that someone did know who committed this crime, how could they cold bloodedly bury someone alive and act normal, once the news story came out.  People that remember that crime today, should rehash over in their minds and jot down information that they do remember, it still maybe helpful.

It is great that we can all sit in our chairs and think about what went on or imagine in our minds the day of the crime and how we think it really happened. The jacket has been the point of great discussion. However in our minds if we think about all the blood that was spattered about the crime scene, a great deal. I saw some pictures last week that were on a TV program, W5 or Fifth Estate, not sure. I think it would be incredible if the person was not covered in a lot of blood, their skin and hair must have had blood on it. The dry cleaner indicated to remove blood from a jacket would take a special solution. So he indicated that was not the case, there was no special solution or no visible blood on the jacket, from my memory of what he said. Whoever did the crime, if it was Dennis, would certainly have to remain calm enough to remember to remove the cell phone and also to take the weapon with him and discreetly get out of the building without anyone noticing his departure, and this would all be during daylight hours.  It just is so unreal to me that nobody saw him, no eye witness seeing him leave the building. The gentlemen that heard the noises, unusual that they didn't investigate, since they knew that possibly Richard was working in his office.  It is all circumstantial.  I thought that if Dennis did do this crime, that once he was arrested that he would have folded, said yes, I did it in a rage, I couldn't take it anymore, but that is not what happened.  That is why I am feeling some doubt.  What kind of a person can be so calm, cool and collected, if they committed the crime of killing their own father, no matter what the history was. From the program I watched, it said that Richard Oland was not a well liked man and had lots of enemies.  So when you think of it, there is a some doubt, a smidgen of doubt.  So this decision is by judge alone, but if it was a jury, I believe they would find him guilty.  Of course, you never know which way the wind blows there either.  I used to work for a judge years ago and he used to say: "If he wasn't guilty, he wouldn't be here." ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Since you both are discussing this fact regarding the blood and possibly someone wearing a cover up suit in case of getting blood or DNA on their clothing, I feel that would be a crime of premeditation. However, then it discounts a murder of rage and flash anger. So that would take that theory out of the mix. I am more apt to think that this was a planned murder, maybe not a long term plan, but maybe on that very same day that the crime occurred. They would have to be in possession of a weapon. They would have to in some way protect themselves from blood spatter. We have all been told that there was blood everywhere. So that would mean, clothing, shoes, face, hair, blood would be everywhere on a person. I do believe they focused on one individual for this crime. There was no eye witness to the exact time this happened. Also the police indicated they did not check the other exit to the building, when they were doing their investigation. So someone very well could have left without being seen.  There is enough doubt to possibly find Dennis not guilty. We will have to wait and see and the Judge alone is making his decision and knows all about the rules of law and evidence. It is not like a jury, then there are 12 people who make the decision. So it will be very interesting to know what will come out of all of this trial.  I think there is a possibility that he will be found Not Guilty.  :o :o :o :o :o

I also am wondering why there has been no posting on this thread for a long time.  I certainly am interested in the photos, Lost, thanks for finding this information. Just adding to the posts, I too am with your thoughts on this Lost, I believe it was a planned meeting. I think she planned to meet someone, went to mail the letters and did not want to tell the girls where she was going, by covering and saying she was going for a walk. Well not many people go for a walk in the area she would have walked, by themselves. It sounds kind of scary to me. I would never walk alone at night at all, no matter how safe you think you are, unless it is only a block and you can see your house from where you are. I believe it was someone she knew the person.  Also it is quite interesting related to the red car.  It was such a high profile murder at that time and it wasn't solved, when they had so many officers dealing with the case. And then it could have been a person who was working in the area and just left town and moved on. A mystery that hopefully will be solved. :o :o :o :o

Well this time it's in the hands of "Judge alone", he will make the decision and weigh the DNA evidence and the circumstantial evidence and  testimony of witnesses and all the rules that come with the making of a decision. If Dennis remembered too much, it would look like he was remembering every minute of the day to cover his alibi. So if he says things that he forgot this and that, it may look normal.  He may know exactly what he did to cover up his crime. It is unusual for him to take the stand and this is kind of the last straw, he's hanging onto the last bit of hope there is and this can be the only thing he can do to help save himself from years in prison. So it will be up to the Judge in this case and I don't think it will be a flash decision. :o :o :o :o :o

jobo, I believe that this mistress was in the picture for quite some time. So his wife may have been used to late hours of his arriving at home and after all he was a very high profile business man and they always seem to work long hours and not join the supper table. It is very unusual that the person that killed the victim came with the intent to do so. I do believe it was premeditated, in the fact that if things did not turn out the way they wanted, they came with a weapon to commit murder.  They had the quick thinking to take the cell phone and also the weapon, after committing the crime. They or he may have not been aware of others in the building, below the office of Dick Oland.  Whomever killed Dick Oland, had a plan, preparing to commit murder if they couldn't get what they wanted. Most of the evidence is circumstantial in this case against Dennis O'land, no weapon, no cell phone, no eye witness. The evidence of blood on a jacket inside sleeve, is that enough to get a verdict in this new trial. You'd have to be sitting there listening to the trial and get a real feel of what was happening there. It is hard to know with tidbits of this and that what will happen this time around.  Another week or more on evidence and then that will be the defense resting it's case. It will be interesting to see what happens in this case.

Just commenting on the CTV news report today on the witness for the defense MLA gentleman. He indicated he was in the restaurant directly across the street the evening in question. He indicated he saw someone leaving the building in question. However, he did not say anything about the identity of the person.  In the fact that he and his wife dine there quite frequently, he was questioned as to if he was sure it was that evening that he saw someone coming out of the building. His answer then was, he couldn't be sure because it was eight years ago and a lot of time has gone by.  However, in my opinion only, if I had supper at a restaurant and a murder occurred the same evening, across the street, I damned well would remember it. If I found out the next day after dining out that a well known business man was murdered across the street, I would be freaking out. I certainly would try and recall the events of the evening and would surely comment on it.  I just find this out of the ordinary.  Maybe he didn't see Dennis, he could have seen some other person and doesn't want to identify him because he is afraid.  He must have been on a list before of witnesses, because he did not testify in the first trial.  It would be interesting to know what he saw.  Maybe he would agree to go under hypnosis. I know I am a real Agatha Christie here, but that would be very valuable information to the accused's case. I believe that the witness saw and knows who the person was, whether it was Dennis or someone else, I believe he doesn't want to have such an important role as identifying the possible killer, because it may hinge on his testimony of deciding the case. :o :o :o :o :o :o

Hamilton / Re: Audrey GLEAVE | 73, Murdered (Dec 2010) | Hamilton/Lynden
« on: February 28, 2019, 01:39:22 PM »
Yes, there seems to be a lot of unsolved cases and they should be hiring new eyes to look at these files.  Put someone on the cold cases and check them out and they may be able to come up with some answers.

I have a feeling that Dennis is going to be found "Not Guilty", the defense is going to take two weeks to finish it's case. So we'll see then what happens.  That's all they have to do is plant "reasonable doubt" in the minds of the persons handling his final verdict and that could be very well what happens, NG.

Hamilton / Re: Audrey GLEAVE | 73, Murdered (Dec 2010) | Hamilton/Lynden
« on: February 24, 2019, 11:39:44 AM »
I think they should be investigating the person who did receive the benefits of her estate. Did this person spend any amount of money maybe to pay someone off to kill Audrey?? They should look at a money trail to see who got the benefits.  Who knew her habits??? I do remember her premonitions and maybe there was someone who threatened her and she didn't want to say anything.  It is very odd that she had this premonition. If nobody takes up a conversation with officers on this case,  the police will lay it on the bottom of the files.  Someone should be checking on this case periodically and see what the police are doing, even a person that lives in close proximity to where she lives. They would have an excuse as to being afraid that the killer was living close by. I certainly would, if I lived in that area.

GSAR-Member, this is a great map, so well put together and the information. Every province in Canada should have this setup.  This is extremely helpful to any law enforcement agency trying to solve missing persons cases. Especially if there is an area of several persons missing, it gives a birdseye view of the area and maybe helpful in solving any repeated crimes.  This was a great idea. You should be working for Scotland Yard.  I love watching the stories about Scotland Yard, sometimes they are on PBS. It is much the same as the FBI, a huge operation in  London.  :D :D :D :D :D :D

In all of the investigation in this high profile homicide, it is just so unusual that there have been no suspects. I always felt that it possibly could be someone that could have been moving about, working for awhile in that area and then going out of the country. It would be interesting to get a line on the individual that has a record of violence to see if he was in the area at the time. Any kind of clue should be followed up. Incredible time and money spent on trying to solve this case and still nobody has been arrested. I know all who are familiar with this case, will certainly be happy when the individual who is responsible is in custody. Also thanking all officers and detectives in all departments that have spent many hours on this one case, they have to be troubled indeed by not being able to get a hot suspect, that they can put the cuffs on and take him in.

Yes, it was all explained on our local CTV news here. I get all the N.B. details on our news.  The SJP are maybe not trained enough in violent crimes and homicides to properly do an investigation. I do believe there is a lot of that going on in Canada. They fail to secure the crime scene, they allow numerous people to walk around without proper equipment at hand. There should only be suited persons on the crime scene and nothing moved and photos taken.  We see this continuously in serious crimes.  The same as in the Toronto homicide of the couple that was murdered in their mansion, classed as a suicide and the crime scene was contaminated. If it wasn't for their children getting PI involved, it would have been classed as a murder/suicide.  How can these officers sleep at night. I mean the conclusion was reached almost immediately, because they just in my opinion, can't be bothered doing a proper job. I don't have any faith in what is going to happen at this trial now, it's been just a comedy of errors, kind of a kangaroo court, so to say.  I have a feeling it's a washout. :( :( :( :( :(

An incredible amount of luck for Dennis Oland, granted a Mistrial immediately and the jury that was selected was dismissed by the Judge.  So now he gets a trial by Judge alone, what an incredible stroke of luck for O'land. If he is found guilty on 2nd DM, he probably will only serve a very short time in prison.  There are chances that he could be found NG, it will be very interesting to hear the outcome of the trial.  His lawyer claims Dennis did not commit the crime.  There are no other suspects, as we are aware of.  So if the evidence is not iron clad, Dennis could walk away a free man and if he is innocent, so he should.  Not knowing what evidence they do have against Dennis, it is hard to know what the outcome will be of this very strange murder case, surely one that won't be forgotten with all it's twists and turns.  Hopefully justice will prevail and the right person will be convicted for the death of Richard Oland. :o :o :o

I am definitely thinking foul play on this missing person. There is no way that he wouldn't have been found, at least some trace of him, it just doesn't add up.  Was there a search warrant for the place the party was held. I mean even after this time, they can still get a warrant for a search warrant for reasonable cause to search the premises. If there was any blood or anything found in there, they have all kinds of ways to get DNA and check out for blood and any type of violence that may have occurred. I do hope Ryan's parents don't let this case go cold. :o :o :o :o :o :o

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