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So sad for the family but at least they know now. Media must have been pressing for info on possible "gang" related activity to which police said they are not elaborating and are looking at many avenues.
The sketch shows a tough person indeed.   I believe they have more than they are letting on and will also have more interviews now.
This crime looks to be solvable, imo.

Vieo: sketch of possible perp @ 00:35

I'm not saying this is related to Honey and Barry Sherman ... but similar in that this man was working on getting drugs cheaper for Americans.

Other Locations / Re: James Baxter 6 November 1988 Sarnia Ontario
« on: November 09, 2018, 01:10:09 PM »
YW EWO. :)

From the link I posted above:

Crown prosecutor Ken McCaffrey consented to defence lawyer Balfour Der’s application for judicial interim release for Dauphinais.

McCaffrey said there were “issues” to resolve in connection with the Crown’s case, such as a Mr. Big operation and the fact the case involves circumstantial evidence.

The elephant in the room ... Mr. Big. Sounds like this is going to be a tough one.

Other Locations / Re: James Baxter 6 November 1988 Sarnia Ontario
« on: November 07, 2018, 02:15:00 AM »


James Baxter, Nov. 6, 1988: Stabbed in the chest at his Sarnia apartment, died in hospital. Two people were subsequently arrested, but a judge at a preliminary hearing determined there wasn’t enough evidence to send them to trial.

On November 6, 1988, Mr. James Baxter was stabbed to death as he lay in his bed in his Canterbury Court home in the City of Sarnia. This brutal homicide remains unsolved, and as you may know, the police never “close the books” on unsolved homicides.

Do you know who killed Jim Baxter? Do you have information you believe may be helpful to the police in this case?

If you have information about the death of Jim Baxter, call the Sarnia Police Detective’s office, or, if anonymity is important to you call Crime Stoppers. If you call Crime Stoppers, you remain anonymous and will never have to testify in court.


 If you have any information about any serious crimes in Sarnia Lambton, call Crime Stoppers.  If your information leads to an arrest, you may receive a cash reward.  You do not have to reveal your identity or appear in court. Crime Stoppers does not use Caller Display or Call Trace.  Sarnia Lambton Crime Stoppers can be reached at 332- 8477, or toll free at 1-800-222-8477.

Vancouver / Re: Kimberly Lynn Hallgarth May 14 2009
« on: November 06, 2018, 04:58:00 PM »
Charged finally! Video at link.
Former CFL player Josh Boden has been charged with second-degree murder in connection with the 2009 death of his ex-girlfriend.
He is accused of killing Kimberly Lynn Hallgarth, who was found dead in her Burnaby, B.C. home in 2009.

Boden has had run-ins with the law before including theft, domestic assault, sexual assault and assaulting a police officer. He played briefly for the B.C. Lions and the Hamilton Tiger-Cats. The 31-year-old former wide receiver was cut from the Lions in 2008.

Boden is expected to appear in court Monday.

Big love triangle.

Racketeering Love Triangle:
Monsanto, FDA, Big Pharma

According to CTV on FB, TO police have given out 9 new warrants for investigation and one was to outside Canada but they would not say where outside. It was said these "9 new warrants/investigations and then police will be wrapping up." 

Video which explains timeline better than bits and pieces from articles online. Why housekeeper did not spot the bodies, and more from forensic experts.

I'm all out of guesses but the "up to 10 million dollars reward" makes me think that private hired detectives nor police have a clue of what happened and no credible leads/or they think they may know but don't have the proof. If the 10 million doesn't lure any viable leads then they have nothing. Unfortunately. For the family I do wish resolution.
Like you said JB, the culprits probably got more than that with this horrid planned execution.

So thankful for the simple life ... not needing to be known to be so wealthy and not needing to have everyone know I give largely to less fortunate.
I do give to charities and especially to abused animal cases, not in the thousands or millions, but what I can. With many doing small donations it adds up and keeps the special Vets paid.

So, a housecleaner allowed the real estate agent and prospective buyer in.  How did she get in?  Obviously she did not go down to the pool area.

I will have to reread from earlier but I thought we already knew there was a housekeeper there that day. Everything sounds odd though.

In my opinion,   TO police are up against that, and it will take the RCMP on the international crime scene to solve this.   

This is just my opinion of course.   No proof on my part.

We already knew that Americans were involved in stealing of secrets/or Barry was in receipt of trade secrets, something to that effect, so Police and PI would have checked travel logs/names etc. In some places people can just walk across the border without checking in, so if it was someone from out of Canada, they would require someone inside as well.

So from page 1. Barry had not shown up for work on Thursday (very unusual as he was there early every day). No one heard from Honey on Thursday. The bodies were found Friday. It was the Real Estate agent who went to check because he could not get a hold of them. No mention of a house keeper/cleaning lady. Perhaps she was just there on Friday and cleaning the upstairs because it has been mentioned that Sherman's didn't use the pool area a lot. She didn't see the bodies until the Agent went looking and found them.??


Family of Barry and Honey Sherman offers reward of up to $10M for information about killings

Toronto police 'fell well below' the professional standard they are required to meet, family's lawyer says
John Lancaster, Andrea Janus · CBC News · Posted: Oct 26, 2018 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago

Sherman family lawyer Brian Greenspan announces Friday that a reward of up to $10 million has been established for information into the deaths of Honey and Barry Sherman. (Tina Mackenzie/CBC)
The family of Honey and Barry Sherman is offering a reward of up to $10 million for information that leads to the arrest and prosecution of suspects in the deaths of the billionaire couple, whose bodies were found in their mansion last December.

The family's lawyer, Brian Greenspan, announced the reward at a news conference in Toronto Friday afternoon.

"We're trying to light the fire. That's part of the reason we've gathered today," Greenspan told reporters.

"To provide the new incentive for members of the public to come forward with information which they might have … but also to light the fire under the Toronto Police Service and to try to ensure that those investigative steps that have either not yet been completed, or not yet been taken, are completed, and to encourage a two-way street."

A tip line has also been set up that will be monitored 24 hours, seven days a week. The number is 1-833-668-0001.

Barry Sherman, 75, was the founder of generic drug manufacturer Apotex. His wife Honey, 70, was a well-known philanthropist. Together, the couple donated tens of millions of dollars to charities. 

Their bodies were found in the basement pool area of their home on Dec. 15, 2017. No arrests have been made and police have not provided an update on the investigation since January.

Police officially characterized the deaths as "suspicious," but initially said there was no sign of forced entry and they weren't looking for suspects. However, anonymous police sources were quoted early on as saying investigators were looking at the deaths as a case of murder-suicide. This "outraged" the family, Greenspan said Friday, and he was retained to organize a parallel investigation by a team of private investigators, largely made up of former Toronto police homicide detectives.

Greenspan said the private investigation is not meant to undermine the work of police, but rather to advance "the common goal of finding and prosecuting the perpetrators."

He would not divulge any specific details unearthed by the private investigation during the news conference, but Greenspan did have strong words for Toronto police, saying they are "required by law to maintain a certain professional standard," but "fell well below that standard."

Specifically, Greenspan said police failed to take into account the fact that the couple's bodies were "staged" where they were found, by their indoor pool, and that police failed to vacuum the crime scene for evidence, such as hairs or fibres left behind by a perpetrator. He also said police failed to properly gather fingerprint evidence that might identify potential suspects.

Greenspan offered some details about how the Shermans were found, noting that ligatures were wrapped around their necks and then around the pool railing, which forced them into an upright position. Barry's legs were outstretched, with one crossed over another. He was also still wearing his glasses, and the sleeves of his jacket were pulled behind him, which would have restricted the use of his arms.

Greenspan also accused Toronto police of failing to thoroughly check the entry points into the home.

"If this best practice had been followed, they would have located the point of entry into the home, which would have seriously undermined their misleading and irresponsible conclusion that there had been no forced entry," he said.

The Sherman family decided to hire private investigators to independently probe the deaths of Barry and Honey Sherman. (United Jewish Appeal/Canadian Press)
Toronto police Chief Mark Saunders, responding to Greenspan at a late-afternoon news conference, defended his investigators, saying the probe was being conducted "to a very high level of professionalism and a high level of expertise."

While he did not address many of Greenspan's specific allegations, Saunders said a lot of work was done from the beginning to protect the integrity of the investigation. While divisional officers first took on the probe, homicide investigators were brought in to oversee the work, as was a forensic pathologist.

He also noted that more than 50 officers have worked on the case, more than 200 witnesses have been interviewed and officers have collected more than 2,000 hours of video surveillance from neighbours.

"The investigation was not taken lightly and still is not taken lightly," he said.

While rewards don't always help lead to breakthroughs in cases, he said, he welcomed the development, saying at the very least it will bring the investigation "back into the light."

Asked whether Toronto police would participate in a separate expert panel Greenspan is convening to assess the information that comes through the tip line, Saunders said he would want to know more about its terms of reference and whether that would stand up to the scrutiny of a court proceeding.

"If it meets that test, then definitely we will be involved," he said.

'This is a joke,' realtor thought
The news conference came on the same day CBC published details of an interview with a Toronto real estate agent revealing new information about finding the couple's bodies.

The agent was touring the Sherman mansion with wealthy Chinese clients when they came across what appeared to be two bodies in the basement pool area of the home.

The agent said he and his clients were surprised at what they saw, and couldn't believe the bodies were actually real.

"This is a joke, something left over from Halloween," recalled the agent.

The agent, who was working for the prospective buyers and not the Shermans, has requested CBC News not identify him due to concerns for his safety.

FIFTH ESTATEBarry Sherman's cousin fails lie detector test over allegation of plot to kill Honey Sherman
He said he learned a couple of days after touring the Sherman home that the bodies in the pool area were real.

"It was scary," he recalled.

His clients were upset, too, after finding out what they'd really seen.

"They were angry," he recalled. The agent described them as being from mainland China and superstitious. They worried witnessing such a sight was a harbinger of bad things to come.

Mansion was listed at $6.7M
On that cool winter day last December, the agent recalled arriving at the Sherman home on Old Colony Road — an affluent neighbourhood in north Toronto — with his clients, before their scheduled viewing appointment.

The mansion was listed at $6.7 million.

The agent said a person cleaning the home let them in and allowed them to wait inside. A short time later, an agent representing the Shermans arrived.

They began touring the 12,000-square-foot mansion.

After starting on the main floor, they walked upstairs to see more of the massive home. The last part of the tour involved the basement pool area.

"My clients weren't really interested in the pool," recalled the agent.

Looking through a large glass door they could see two bodies "on the steps leading to the pool" several metres away.

"What's with these rich people ... who does this?" he recalled thinking. The agent and his clients did not enter the pool area to take a closer look.

Private investigators costly, and unlikely to turn up anything more than police find
The agent says they thought they had stumbled across some kind of bizarre Halloween display or a joke.

"Fake murders," is how he initially described it.

Not long after they left the home, it's believed the agent representing the Shermans called 911 to report the find.

Why did police wait to talk to witnesses?
The real estate agent confirmed that it was "at least a week or two" after police first started investigating the homicides before they reached out to him and his clients.

The agent says he was interviewed at a local police division and agreed to provide investigators with the shoes he was wearing when he was inside the Sherman home. 

CBC News asked Toronto police why investigators seemingly waited for up to two weeks before interviewing witnesses who were inside the mansion around the time the bodies were discovered.

CBC INVESTIGATES Barry Sherman allegedly duped by convicted fraudster
Barry and Honey Sherman deaths a targeted double homicide, police say
Toronto police spokesperson Meaghan Gray said the service cannot discuss details, because the investigation is ongoing.

The agent said police contacted him again recently to come in for fingerprinting, but hasn't been told when or where that will happen.

He declined to provide the names of the clients who were inside the home with him, but said police know who they are. He said they have since purchased another home in Toronto through a different agent.

John Lancaster can be reached at 416-205-7538 or at

Edmonton / Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
« on: October 16, 2018, 12:11:02 AM »
Iirc, the cousins came home at a point and that is when everything escalated?

Not that poly info can be used in court but at least it might help pinpoint who the liars are. Everyone concerned didn't come near to what neighbors had to say about the violence that night.

I had no idea about the wind turbines being there also and all the upkeep and traffic in the general area. Nor of all the different knots used, well the knot everyone uses for tying a shoelace, and the simple knot for horses, and yes there are many uses then for various ropes. The police didn't put out a picture of the rope initially b/c they were likely doing all those checks prior and came to a dead end investigation wise and now put the picture out. The rope still could twig someone's memory and it wouldn't be the first time a relatively small piece helped solve a case. Then as you say, if that rope had been carelessly left by workers, anyone could have picked it up.

Sounds as though that type of rope is used for rescues and it makes me wonder who would just happen to have that kind of rope around for their convenience if it wasn't originally used for the specific purpose.

There is mountain climbing sport and caving in Crowsnest Pass. Rescuers and sports minded people would probably use this type of rope as it is safer. I wonder if that is something police may be looking into who in or around the area are most likely to partake in those activities.

ITA with all of you above. Now it is time to try and flesh out evidence of all other collaborators.

RIP to all the victims and there are so many.:(

General Discussion / Re: Amber Alert Saskatchewan, Alberta, Manitoba
« on: September 17, 2018, 11:43:50 AM »
Thank you for the update Debbie. Whew! Thank God she is safe.

I guess someone just needed a ride; but the horror her parents faced for several hours.

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