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General Discussion / Most missing people return home safely
« on: March 31, 2016, 08:55:52 AM »
Most missing people return home safely

March 30, 2016

When the public thinks of missing people, cases like last week’s disappearance of a two-year-old Manitoba boy, Chase Martens, later found drowned, come to mind.

Or perhaps the high-profile disappearance and presumed murder of Lyle and Marie McCann, a senior couple who disappeared in 2010 on a road trip to B.C. from their home in Alberta.

An Alberta man named Travis Vader is currently on trial for their murder, even though their bodies were never found.

About 62,000 Canadians are reported to police each year as missing, but most, however, turn up safe and sound, according to Carole Bird, a retired RCMP inspector, who was guest speaker at the Rotary Club of Osoyoos recently.

“I’m a little passionate about the issue,” said Bird, noting that typically about 21,000 missing adults are reported annually to the Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC), as well as about 41,000 missing children.

Bird spoke at Rotary on March 17.

Bird, who retired last summer to Osoyoos, led the four-year project of establishing the National Centre for Missing Persons and Unidentified Remains (NCMPUR) based in Ottawa.

NCMPUR provides specialized investigative services to law enforcement, medical examiners and chief coroners related to missing persons and unidentified remains investigations.

It also runs a website profiling selected missing persons cases at

The distinction between adults – those aged 18 and over – and children is important, said Bird.

“Adults actually have the right to disappear if they want to,” said Bird. “As long as you’re not fleeing the law, as long as there are no warrants out for you, you can leave. “You can have a bad day and decide to walk away for a period of time. You can decide you want to start over. A whole bunch of people do it. It’s allowed. In fact, most of the phone calls that police get about missing adults, they come back safely on their own very shortly thereafter.”

Children, however, are a different matter.

They may run away from home, but their disappearance is always cause for concern.

Very few of those result in Amber Alerts – typically fewer than 10 a year – which are only issued by police in cases involving child abductions in the most serious, time critical cases.

On television shows, strangers are most often responsible for child abductions, but in reality cases that are international and longstanding are usually parental abductions, said Bird.

“Parental abductions mean as much to the parent that was left behind as any other missing child, and yet we see cases that take years and years to resolve and some may never be resolved,” Bird said.

Adults who disappear may be involved in high-risk activities, which can mean anything from hunting to hiking, mountain climbing, hitchhiking or even street prostitution, she said.

People can become disoriented for medical reasons, including dementia, wandering off either into the wilderness or in cities. When temperatures are extreme, this can be especially dangerous.

Missing persons cases present unique challenges unlike most criminal investigations, said Bird.

“Let’s say I was investigating a murder,” said Bird. “I have a crime scene usually and fairly quickly thereafter, hopefully, I will figure out who the murder victim was. So I know where and I know the who, and we don’t know who did it yet, but usually through an autopsy I’m going to know the how.”

In contrast, none of this is typically known in a missing persons case.

People may have some idea when the person was last seen, but narrowing down exactly when, why and how they disappeared is much more challenging.

Often, in the case of homeless people, they may only be known by a nickname that could be the same nickname used by others who have not disappeared.

“Often you are working without some of the basic parameters you would typically get in things like a homicide,” she said.

Another challenge is popular misconceptions based on television shows, said Bird.

“I love CSI, it’s a wonderful show, but I’m really sure I can’t get a DNA analysis within an hour, I can’t solve the case within an hour, but what we find is people have that expectation,” she said.

The reality is there are various police forces and standards across Canada and different protocols come into play. The needs to bring these different organizations together and develop best practices were among the reasons the NCMPUR was established.

“There are so many different circumstances and that’s what makes things so complex,” said Bird. “There’s no cookie-cutter mould for how a case will unfold. There are best practices and they may not apply to every single investigation.”

When a person goes missing, they leave behind someone who cares for them – a spouse, a friend, a colleague, or in the case of a child, parents and siblings.

When they come back, the negative circumstances that made them leave can be resolved, Bird said.

When the person doesn’t come back and harm befalls them, whether accidental or deliberate, other issues arise.

Numerous questions arise such as what happened? Can the family get closure and can they move on? Will a family need to await the outcome as a case moves through court? If the missing person was a financial contributor, will the family now have trouble paying the bills?

“These can be straightforward cases or they can be lengthy,” said Bird. “Sometimes they can be ongoing for years. For the family, that can make things very difficult.”

Osoyoos Times

General Discussion / Interesting - Drug testing to get welfare in Florida
« on: February 21, 2016, 01:16:55 PM »
Highway I-95 and I-75 will be jammed for the next month or so with druggies and deadbeats heading North out of Florida, because this is the first state in the union to require drug testing to receive welfare.....

Applicants must pay for the drug test, but are reimbursed if they test drug-free. Applicants who test positive for illicit substances, won't be eligible for the funds for a year, or until they undergo treatment. Those who fail a second time will be banned from receiving funds for three years!

Site News | About Us / Posting Links
« on: February 04, 2016, 11:31:05 AM »
Hi everyone,

When posting links please take the time to post the article. Things have a way of disappearing from the net after a while. If that happens then it leaves many "holes" in our threads.


Les Voth is from Lac La Hache, BC. He was last seen leaving the Williams Lake casino on Friday, January 22 at 12:36 am. Les is driving a black 1996 F350 extended cab pickup - licence plate # BP7000.

Family members say that Les has been suffering from depression.

If you see him or his vehicle please contact the 100 Mile House RCMP at 250-395-2456.

General Discussion / Time Change
« on: November 01, 2015, 05:22:17 PM »
Hi everyone,

Just a reminder to change the time on your profile if the time in your area (I realize not all areas participate) was set back an hour early this morning. That way the time on your posts will be accurate.  :)


General Discussion / Missing Posts
« on: September 12, 2015, 10:37:22 AM »
Hi everyone,

It seems we have some kind of an issue with posts not showing up on the threads. It was first brought to my attention yesterday by a member who had posted in response to something written on the Ruth Degayo thread. When clicking on recent topics it showed that there was a new post there, but it was not there if one went to read. This has continued to be the case with new posts on that thread. I am the fourth person to write something on that thread that does not show up. I simply wrote "testing" to see if it would appear and it did not. When clicking on 'recent posts' a few minutes ago, no recent posts show for this thread, however they do show at the bottom of the page as if there are recent posts.

I'm not sure at this point if this is the only thread affected, or if there are others that I have not become aware of. If anyone is posting and finds their post does not show up on the thread please let me know.



Jessica Newman's thread can be found under 'Solved But Not Convicted'.

Kathy & Alvin Liknes & Nathan O'Brien's thread has been moved to the section "Solved But Not Convicted'.

Published On: Sat, Mar 14th, 2015
AB / Calgary / Display / Missing Persons | By APR

24 Year Old Jessica Rae NEWMAN Reported Missing in Calgary

Calgary-Police-120 Calgary, Alberta – The Calgary Police Service is seeking public assistance to locate a missing woman. Jessica Rae NEWMAN, 24, was last seen in the Forest Lawn area around 9:30 p.m., on Tuesday, March 10, 2015.

NEWMAN is described as Caucasian, 5’3” tall, 100 lbs. with mid-length blonde hair and blue eyes. NEWMAN has a tattoo the length of her spine. She was last seen wearing a black and white mid -length sleeveless dress and black leather jacket with studs on the shoulder pads.

Anyone who may have spoken with NEWMAN before she went missing, or who may have information about her current whereabouts, is asked to call police at 403-266-1234 or Crime Stoppers anonymously using any of the following methods:

TALK: 1-800-222-8477


TEXT: tttTIPS to 27463

CASE # 15102498/4765

Calgary Police Service

NEWMAN is described as Caucasian, 5’3” tall, 100 lbs. with mid-length blonde hair and blue eyes. NEWMAN has a tattoo the length of her spine.

click to enlarge picture

High-risk Missing Person (Berhane BERAKY)


File # 2015-9907
 2015-03-10 08:59 PDT

RCMP are investigating a missing person's case, involving Berhane BERAKY, who was last seen at around 5:50 PM on February 28, 2015, leaving his work in north Burnaby. BERAKY is described as an African-Canadian male, 38 years old, 5'7" (170 cm), 148 lbs (67 kg), short black hair, brown eyes, thin moustache; he was last seen wearing: beige khaki jacket, off-white jacket underneath, black backpack and dark pants. BERAKY is not known to be involved in a high-risk lifestyle and it is very unusual for BERAKY not to return to his home or not to show up for his employment.

Anybody with information about whereabouts or sighting of BERAKY since February 28, 2015, is asked to call Burnaby RCMP Missing Persons Unit at 604 294 7922.

Released by S/S/M John A. Buis604.809.1700


Fort St. John RCMP seek public's help after teen found dead

Jonathan Bruce was found dead near a motocross track on Sunday

CBC News Posted: Nov 26, 2013 7:00 PM PT| Last Updated: Nov 26, 2013 7:00 PM PT

Fort St. John RCMP are asking for the public’s help in an investigation into the death of a 16-year-old boy.

Jonathan Bruce was found dead near a motocross track in Fort St. John Sunday, but police have not been able to determine the cause of death and have ruled the death suspicious until more is known.

“We really can’t say for certain right now how many people were involved, or what happened. It’s still too early in the investigation. So, we’re just hoping that if anybody did see something, they can give us a call and help us out,” says RCMP Cpl. Jodi Shelkie.

An autopsy has been scheduled in order to determine the cause of Bruce’s death.

The superintendent of the Peace River North School District confirmed that Bruce was a former student at North Peace Secondary School in Fort St. John, and counselors were called in today to help grieving students and staff.

Anyone who saw anything suspicious during the evening of Nov..23 or the morning of Nov. 24 near the motocross track is asked to call RCMP at 250-787-8100 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.
With files from CBC's Marissa Harvey

General Discussion / Winter Diary
« on: December 05, 2014, 01:42:17 PM »
I don't know what it's like where any of you live, but here we have snow. I thought this may brighten the day of those who are already getting tired of shoveling all that white stuff.

Winter Diary

December 8: It started to snow. The first of the season and the wife and I took our cocktails and sat by the window watching the soft flakes drift down over the area. It was beautiful.

December 9: We awoke to a big beautiful blanket of crystal white snow covering the landscape. What a fantastic sight! Every tree and shrub covered with a beautiful white mantel. I shoveled snow for the first time in years and loved it. I did both our driveway and the sidewalk. Later the snowplow came along and covered up our sidewalk with compacted snow from the street. I shoveled again and enjoyed.

December 12: The sun has melted all our lovely snow. Oh well, I’m sure we will get some more before this wonderful winter is over.

December 14: It snowed 8 inches last night and the thermometer dropped to 5 degrees below zero. Shoveled the driveway and sidewalk again and the snowplow came by and did its  thing again.

December 15: Sold my van and bought a 4x4 Blazer so I can drive in the snow. I also had to go out and buy snow tires for my wife’s car.

December 16: Fell on my a$$ on the ice in the driveway. All that was hurt was my feelings.

December 17: Still cold (below zero in the a.m.) and icy roads make for very tough driving.

December 20: Had another 14 inches of the white s@#t last night. More shoveling for me today. That damn snowplow came by twice.

December 22: We are assured of a white Christmas because another foot of the white sheet fell today and with this freezing weather it won’t melt until August. Got all dressed up to go out and shovel (boots, jump suit, heavy jacket, scarf, ear muffs, gloves, etc) and then I had to pee.

December 24: If I ever catch the son-of-a-B that drives that snowplow, I’ll drag him through the snow by his balls. I think he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish shoveling and then comes down the street 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over what used to be my clean driveway.

December 25: Merry Christmas! They predict 20 more inches of the white crap tonight. To hell with Santa, he doesn’t have to shovel the white s@#t. The snowplow driver came by asking for a donation. I hit him over the head with my snow shovel.

December 26: We got the 20 inches they predicted and then some. I must be going snowblind or have a severe case of cabin fever because my wife is starting to look good to me again.

December 27: The toilet froze. If you go outside, don’t eat the yellow snow.

December 28: I set fire to the house. Now that white s@#t won’t cling to the roof. We are taking the insurance money and moving to Florida.

In the past June Hibbs thread experienced many problems, as I'm sure most of the regular posters will recall. It was finally closed. Due to a new development in this case I have started another topic for June. We have yet to see how things will play out.   

Chris posted the message below last time we attempted to re-open this thread.   

Feel free to post facts about this case in this thread. but please, do not post names or accusations here.

« on: September 21, 2014, 05:53:08 PM »
The United Nations has declared October 11th, International Day of The Girl Child.  Canada has been a leader in promoting this day at the United Nations.  The International Day of The Girl is an opportunity to raise awareness about the particular challenges that girls face and to take action.

What are some of the issues?

 In Canada:

•46% of school girls in Ontario report being the target of unwanted sexual comments or gestures in the last three months;
•Young women aged 15 - 19 years experience ten times the rate of dating violence than young men;
•Almost one in ten First Nations and Inuit teenage girls are parents.

Around the World:

•Preferential feeding of boys leads to malnutrition for girls, which has lasting physical and mental effects;
•Each year roughly two million girls between the ages of 5 and 15 are trafficked, sold or coerced into the sex trade.



Missing Person to locate – Terrance Michael LANDON

File # 2014-29751
2014-07-22 14:53 PDT

Police are seeking public assistance in determining the whereabouts of a man last seen in December, 2013.

On June 8, 2014 the Kelowna RCMP received a report of a missing person from a campsite near James Lake. Terrance Michael LANDON had been living in a tent trailer on Crown land for several months and was building a small cabin in the woods there. The last known contact with LANDON was on December 26, 2013 and when a friend recently went to check on him, they found his vehicle and trailer there but could not locate him.

Central Okanagan Search and Rescue has conducted multiple area searches but LANDON has not been located.

LANDON is described as:

•Caucasian male
•57 years
•5 ft 7 in (170 cm)
•141 lbs (64 kg)
•brown hair
•brown eyes
•full, grey beard
Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Terrance LANDON is urged to contact their local police, or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477 (TIPS).

Released by

Cst. Kris Clark

Media Relations Officer
Kelowna RCMP
350 Doyle Ave, Kelowna V1Y 6V7
Office: 250-470-6361
Fax: 250-470-6348


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