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Title: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: Chris on September 24, 2007, 10:21:38 AM
Raymond Venerus, 55 years.
Occurrence No. 12901-07
Address: Dublin Line South of 5 Sideroad, Milton, Ontario 


At 9:50 am on Wednesday February 21st, 2007 Police were called to Dublin Line south of #5 Side Road in the Town of Milton. Raymond Michael Venerus was found shot to death, lying on the ground outside his motor vehicle which had been left idling.

Ray Venerus was a long time Milton resident who over the past several years operated several local businesses.

Investigators are appealing to the public for help and any information that can assist in identifying the person or persons responsible, and can help solve this serious crime.

If you have any information on this case please call the Major Crime Bureau at 905-825-4747 Ext.5082 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS.


Please quote the case number and victim's name when calling. Thank You.
http://www.hrps.on.ca/data/homicide/homicide_12.asp
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: rlaughton on April 21, 2008, 07:16:29 PM
Last month I did up a Google Earth posting showing the information relative to the Raymond Venerus case.  I use this approach quite a bit in my research on WWI soldiers from the Milton area, to track their fate in the Great War, in battle and to the final grave.  I thought it might have some application to adding to an unsolved mystery, as many people around town asked "Where is it that this guy lived and was killed"?  Halton Crime Stoppers and Halton Regional Police are aware of this Google Earth Tour and asked me to leave it in place.

If you have not used Google Earth Tours before, once the file opens click the play button (in the dark red oval) and the tour will start.  More details will be added as they become available.  The following is just a "snap shot" of the screen from the Google Earth Posting.  The see the full map click on the link or the image.  June 12, 2008: I should have noted on the Google Satellite Image that the Venerus home is the property near the "tail" of the red arrow, the only home in that area.  Next time I do an update on Google Earth I will add a pointer to the house.

The two (2) YouTube videos from Halton Region Police Services follow the Google Earth posting. (Note: if it says the video is no longer available, just use the link to go the video as it is still there)

Download the KMZ file that opens in Google Earth with details shown in image: Venerus KMZ File (http://www.mediafire.com/download/25x1d4a87d1ccf1/Raymond_Venerus_Homicide%2C_Halton_Regional_Police.kmz)

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/87a0/j1aoa5pxn4trc316g.jpg)

YouTube Crime Reenactment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpPgIg2jolk

YouTube Reward Announcement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVbL5h2sJyw

Most recent newspaper report:
 
Quote from: Stephanie Hounsell, Milton Champion

News, Apr 04, 2008

Police are reaching out to the public, offering a $20,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person -- or persons -- responsible for killing 55-year-old Raymond Venerus last year. The reward was announced Monday afternoon during a hastily-called press conference at Halton Regional Police headquarters in Oakville.

The announcement has been posted on YouTube under "Venerus homicide" for added exposure.

Police are hoping the reward -- which expires March 31 of next year -- will entice someone to come forward with new information.

"This is an attempt to reach out to the public in a way we don't often," said Sgt. Brian Carr to reporters and camera crews.

The reward will be shared proportionally amongst people supplying information at the conclusion of the trial and any ensuing appeals, police said.

Venerus was found shot dead on the side of Dublin Line -- north of Hwy. 401 -- near his home at 9:50 a.m. February 21, 2007 by a passerby. The small business owner was found lying on the roadway next to his Jeep Cherokee.

Police are asking anyone who may have seen something unusual from the early morning hours to 11 a.m. February 21 to call the Venerus Homicide Tip Line. Anonymous information doesn't qualify for this reward, which was approved by the Halton Regional Police Services Board and is separate from Crime Stoppers.

Halton police chief Gary Crowell told reporters homicide officers have followed up with numerous persons of interest in the case, but no arrests have resulted.

The case has proven challenging for investigators given the limited number of leads, he said.

Investigators spoke with more than 200 people who knew Venerus, but "none of the tips were fruitful," Crowell said.

A reenactment of the crime aired on CHCH around the one-year anniversary of the murder, but garnered no tips, he said.

Nevertheless, he said he wants the public to know investigators haven't given up.

"Investigators continue to actively pursue leads," he said.

Inspector Chris Perkins said Venerus was "known to police," but that police don't believe there's any connection between that fact and his murder.

At the beginning of March, the reenactment was placed on YouTube, marking the first time Halton police have utilized the popular video-sharing medium. It received about 1,200 hits, and on-line comments that could become leads.

Lead investigator Roger Wilkie of the homicide division said Venerus leaves behind a common-law wife, an ex-wife and two children, all from Milton.


May 28, 2016: I just realized I could edit the posts and update the links. I have also put copies of all the files that remain active, that I have posted, in an on-line folder: Ray Venerus Files (https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gu872gi2zmajg/Venerus_Files).
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: Chris on April 22, 2008, 01:22:23 AM
That is fantastic stuff! Great job with that.

Is there any theories about this case? IT does seem planned.

Keep up the great work, if you make more files be sure to send us the link here so we can see it.
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: Adrian on June 10, 2008, 07:56:38 PM

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Venerus was found shot dead on the side of Dublin Line -- north of Hwy. 401 -- near his home at 9:50 a.m. February 21, 2007 by a passerby. The small business owner was found lying on the roadway next to his Jeep Cherokee.

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I just found this, and watched the videoes. Surely someone saw, a vehicle or 3, hanging around until Mr. Venerus left his home. How would they know when he was leaving, or was it someone he knew?Someone he was in contact with. I wonder what his regular hours were for work? Or was that the time?

I think people are afraid to talk... ???
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: rlaughton on June 11, 2008, 09:27:36 AM
The suspicion was that it was a "professional hit".  The area was quite remote and it is unlikely that cars would have been driving in that area, other than on the expressway (the 401) that is south of the property.  Anyone that drove down to the house did so intentionally.

Most of the stores and restaurants in Milton now have posters, so they are looking for that one person who does know something.  It will probably be solved one day when someone does a plea bargain on another case and trades information for leniency.
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: capeheart on June 11, 2008, 03:55:57 PM
This certainly sounds like they were waiting for Mr. Venerus to leave home. They laid in wait for him.  Especially the fact that he lived in a remote area. Hope they catch the killers of this man. If he was known by officers, I wonder what for? Maybe he was involved in criminal activity of some kind. Sorry for his family to have to go through this.
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: Chris on June 12, 2008, 04:37:01 AM
The suspicion was that it was a "professional hit".  The area was quite remote and it is unlikely that cars would have been driving in that area, other than on the expressway (the 401) that is south of the property.  Anyone that drove down to the house did so intentionally.

Most of the stores and restaurants in Milton now have posters, so they are looking for that one person who does know something.  It will probably be solved one day when someone does a plea bargain on another case and trades information for leniency.

I'm thinking pro hit too.
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: Adrian on June 12, 2008, 12:29:25 PM


Yeah, It is sounding like a pro hit. I wonder who was behind it.

Thanks rlaughton for all the information, as well as insight!

Probably business, or connected. We never know for sure what man will do, or re act in a conflict. It could of been anything. I am glad I am not rich in money(tho wish I was at times! Ha!)
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: rlaughton on June 14, 2008, 09:22:51 PM
Some other information:

Toronto Star - Police Probe Milton Slaying (http://www.thestar.com/News/article/184908)

The company that Raymond Venerus was involved with was shut down in Ontario and the owner moved to New Brunswick and restarted the business:

Albino Pischiutta & Fero New Brunswick (http://www.fero.ca/contactl) - link updated 28 May 2016

More About the Ferro Company Crimes (http://www.thestar.com/printArticle/184908) - this link is no longer available

So, you think maybe there was some "bad blood" somewhere and that some information was not yet known?

Quote
During the 1990s, Venerus was an officer in Fero Waste & Recycling Inc., a company that went out of business a decade ago after being hit with charges of overbilling customers ? including the Maplehurst Correctional Centre ? and cheating on GST payments owed to the federal government.

After being hit with fraud and tax-evasion charges, the company then became embroiled in a nasty dispute between former partners, with Fero president Albino Pischiutta moving to New Brunswick to set up another waste-management firm.

He was also sued for $19,000, for what a former employee called unpaid wages.

Pischiutta declined to comment yesterday about the death of his former partner.

"I don't want to talk about it," Pischiutta said three times, and then hung up the phone.

Police said yesterday Venerus was slain sometime between 6 a.m. and 10 a.m. Wednesday.

Halton police say they'd like to talk with anybody who might have seen any unusual activity in the area of Dublin Line and Highway 401 on Wednesday until about 11 a.m.

Pischiutta had a 50 per cent interest in Fero, with Venerus controlling 40 per cent of company stock, and Doriano Poloni of Campbellville owning 10 per cent.

The three men and bookkeeper Deborah Ann Marple of Milton all pleaded guilty in 1995 in Milton Provincial Court to six counts each of uttering forged documents in connection with the scam.

A judge ruled that Marple did not benefit personally from the scheme.

The case involved losses of about $79,000 to six customers, including the jail, between Jan. 1, 1991 and Dec. 1, 1992.

A five-month police investigation found they falsified documents and generated phony invoices to justify the amounts they were overcharging.

In 1997, Fero was back in trouble with the law, as Judge John Robinson of Ontario Court (General Division) fined Venerus $10,000 and Poloni for obtaining a fraudulent Goods and Services Tax rebate.

The company was also hit with $157,389 in fines for evading payment of the GST, by understating its income by $2,359,382.

By doctoring the books, the company was also able to get a GST refund of $15,245.

**forum link removed
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: Chris on June 16, 2008, 04:04:29 AM
Yes, so often a 'junior' partner wants more then what they are entitled too. It does seem more likely that this was a hit then.

Good research by the way.
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: rlaughton on July 02, 2008, 05:50:15 PM
A reliable source tells me that the partner was "clean" and not involved in any way.

There is a theory "about town" that it was a collection of accounts due on his son and Ray was "in the wrong place at the wrong time".

That may be all conjecture.  I have no knowledge of the son, etc.
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: Chris on July 06, 2008, 12:37:16 AM
A reliable source tells me that the partner was "clean" and not involved in any way.

There is a theory "about town" that it was a collection of accounts due on his son and Ray was "in the wrong place at the wrong time".

That may be all conjecture.  I have no knowledge of the son, etc.

Good point. Family would be next then. I am glad the partner is clean, that makes this a bigger mystery though.
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: rlaughton on March 31, 2009, 01:24:48 PM
There is an update to this story, as it appeared in the Milton Champion of Friday March 27, 2009.

(May 28 2016: The link was broken so I am just leaving the text. I will put all the articles in a current post)

Here is the text for those than can not follow the link or in the event the link is removed at some time in the future:

Quote from: Milton Champion
A $20,000 police reward for information regarding the murder of a Milton man has been extended for one year.
The Halton Regional Police Services Board recently approved the extension of the existing reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or people responsible for murdering 55-year-old Raymond Venerus two years ago.

The morning of February 21, 2007, Venerus was shot and killed a short distance from his Dublin Line home, Halton police said.

A passerby found his body lying on the road next to his Jeep Cherokee.

An autopsy revealed the cause of death was a gunshot wound to the head.

Anonymous information won’t qualify for any portion of the $20,000, and claims for the reward will be recognized only when made in writing prior to March 31 of next year.

The reward will be shared proportionally between the people supplying the information at the conclusion of the trial and any appeals.

To learn more about the reward, visit www.hrps.on.ca or type in ‘Venerus homicide’ in YouTube at www.youtube.com .

If you have information about the murder, call Halton Regional Police Service’s Venerus Homicide Tip Line at (905) 825-4747, ext. 5140. You can also e-mail information to Sgt. Roger Wilkie at roger.wilkie@hrps.on.ca .


Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: Silverdog on March 31, 2009, 09:50:28 PM
Sounds to me like a deliberate hit. **Someone** had something to gain by this man's death. Who inherits his 40% share of the business? Did he have life insurance? Would his death enable his creditors to get the money they were owed? Or was someone just fed up with waiting for it?
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: solvy on March 31, 2009, 09:57:38 PM
right on Silver.

Follow the money. Thats usually where you'll find the culprit in these type of cases.
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: rlaughton on September 25, 2010, 08:00:22 PM
I was checking an update on this file and saw the Halton Regional Police have a web page dedicated to unsolved murders. Ray is on the list, as are many others.

http://www.hrps.on.ca/CrimeFiles/Pages/UnsolvedHomicides.aspx

A Police Officer is one of the unsolved homicides?
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: Chris on September 26, 2010, 01:43:09 PM
Thanks. I'm going to take a look and see if there some cases not listed here already.
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: rlaughton on February 23, 2012, 03:26:33 PM
Milton Canadian Champion - February 23, 2012
(5th Anniversary of the Murder - still unsolved - see note about weapon)

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h78/26thNF/MiltonChampion23022012.jpg)

This was on the front page of the local paper, here in Milton Ontario where it all took place.

If you Google "Ray Venerus" there is a lot of additional information.
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: Ron on May 23, 2016, 01:29:45 PM

Police doing re-enactment.

Halton Crime Stoppers is hoping a reenactment of a 2007 homicide, filmed in Oakville Wednesday, will finally bring justice for the victim’s family.

Raymond Michael Venerus, 55, was murdered outside his home on Dublin Line in Milton on Feb. 21, 2007.

Police said around 9:50 a.m. on that day, Venerus got into his Jeep Cherokee and drove to the end of his driveway where unknown suspect(s) approached him.

“He was not a man to back down from a confrontation and he stopped his Jeep and got out,” said Det. Const. Paul Proteau, Halton Crime Stoppers Coordinator.

“Raymond Venerus was fatally shot once in the head. To date police have been unable to identify the person responsible for shooting him.”

It has been nearly a decade since this murder took place and Proteau said the reenactment video, filmed at a residence on Burnhamthorpe Road West by CHCH, is intended to get people thinking about this incident again in the hope that someone may remember some crucial piece of information or have a change of heart and tell Crime Stoppers what they know.

“Mr. Venerus has family in the Milton area, who deserve to know what happened to their father and grandfather,” said Proteau.

“Police believe there are those in the area who can still shed some light on this investigation and we are appealing to anyone with information to come forward.”

Proteau said a lot can happen in 10 years.

During that time, the killer may have told someone what they did or someone could have found out.

“Maybe there is a spouse or ex-partner or friend of the person who committed the offence, whose relationship with that person has soured and they are ready to talk about this now,” said Proteau.

If that is the case, Proteau said that person can contact Crime Stoppers anonymously at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477) and provide their information.

Those who supply important information may also be eligible for a cash reward of up to $2,000.

Proteau said the re-enactment featured a Crime Stoppers volunteer playing the role of Venerus.

The video shows the ‘victim’ driving down a driveway and onto the road.

At this point, a gunshot is heard and the scene then shows a body lying in the roadway next to the idling vehicle.

Proteau said he wanted the re-enactment filmed in Oakville as opposed to the Milton neighbourhood where the murder actually took place because he didn’t want to re-victimize that community.

He chose a rural location similar to Dublin Line and noted the homeowner allowed Crime Stoppers to use their property for free.

The video is expected to run on CHCH at around 6:50 p.m. on Friday (May 20).

Proteau is also hoping to add the video to the Halton Crime Stoppers website www.haltoncrimestoppers.com when it is available.

It’s not the first time police have tried this method of cracking the cold case.

Five years after Venerus was shot and left to die, police released a YouTube video in hopes of solving the cold case.

Five years and hundreds of interviews later, Halton police said they knew someone out there knows something and someone will tell. It’s just a matter of time.

Homicide Detective Alistair Watt said at that time, there’s no such thing as a cold murder case. “We never give up,” he said.

A $20,000 reward and a Crime Stoppers re-enactment video in 2009 sparked some interest from the public, but the reward expired in 2010 with no new leads.

A passing motorist spotted Venerus’ body beside his Jeep Cherokee on Dublin Line outside his home around 10 a.m. that fateful day.

Police haven’t commented on the type, calibre, or number of weapons involved in the slaying other than to say investigators know what they are looking for.

When he was killed, friends and associates told The Hamilton Spectator Venerus was “a multimillionaire, an “in-your-face” kind of guy who ran a number of businesses and owned commercial properties in Milton, including a successful towing company, garage and service station and leased properties to others.

Early in the investigation police said investigators examined Venerus’ past and did not consider it a factor.

Anyone with information about this crime can contact Crime Stoppers anonymously at 1-800-222-TIPS FREE (8477), through the website at www.haltoncrimestoppers.com or by texting ‘TIP201’ with the message to CRIMES (274637).

Residents can also contact the Halton Regional Police Service Homicide Unit at 905-825-4747, ext. 8760.




                                                 http://www.theifp.ca/news-story/6563268-halton-crime-stoppers-hopes-milton-homicide-re-enactment-filmed-in-oakville-will-help-solve-cold-cas/
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: rlaughton on May 27, 2016, 08:31:55 AM
The initial KMZ file I included with the site locations and links to the Halton Regional Police information was lost when Google Earth shut down the old site.

I found the new FORUM and have added the old files back to the system. With the new site, you must be a REGISTERED USER to view the MEMBER PERSONAL SITES. It is free to register. I guess I should have put it in another location on their site.

You can find it here:

http://googleearthcommunity.proboards.com/thread/2862/ray-venerus-homicide

A copy of that file has now been placed in the shared mediafire folder as well:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/25x1d4a87d1ccf1/Raymond_Venerus_Homicide%2C_Halton_Regional_Police.kmz
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: jellybean on May 27, 2016, 10:08:52 PM

http://www.insidehalton.com/news-story/2957170-police-look-for-leads-in-venerus-murder/

Jul 06, 2007  | Vote0   0
Police look for leads in Venerus murder
Burlington Post
Almost five months after a Milton man was gunned down near his rural home, police still haven't made any arrests.

But that doesn't mean they aren't actively investigating the murder of 55-year-old Ray Venerus, and officers are continuing to appeal to anyone with information to do the right thing and come forward.

"I certainly believe there's someone out there or more than one (person) with information," said Det. Sgt. Al Frost of Halton Regional Police's homicide unit.

"I'd love to have those people reach out to us. We're always looking for the public's assistance."

Venerus was discovered shot to death near his Dublin Line house, south of No. 5 Sideroad, February 21 by a passerby.

Venerus, a local businessman, owned a building on Regional Road 25, just south of No. 5 Sideroad, that contained an Olco gas station and Miltowne Automotive Services and ran Ray Venerus Enterprises Ltd., a used auto dealership, out of that building.

Frost said there are five investigators currently working on the case.

"We're pursuing interviews and investigating (a number of) avenues."

Since the investigation is ongoing, Frost said he can't reveal much information about the murder -- such as how many times Venerus was shot or whether it was a drive-by shooting -- or the police investigation, including whether they have suspects in mind.

What he could say is police continue to believe it wasn't a random killing.

The public, he said, can be confident in the resources police have committed to the case.

"We're doing all we can in terms of continuing to pursue this," he said.

This is one of about a dozen unsolved cases in Halton.

Frost said he remains optimistic the killer will be caught. Someone somewhere likely has important information that could lead to a break in the case, he said.

The number to call with information is (905) 825-4747, ext. 5082.

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The business,  Milltown Auto Services Repairs still exists. /jb
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: rlaughton on May 28, 2016, 05:30:37 AM
I just realized today I could update the old posts that had broken links. Some of the Toronto Star original articles are gone and I do not have paid access to the archives. From now on I will save them to a separate storage site so they do not disappear.

You can find any of the files that I have used here: Ray Venerus Homicide Storage Folder (https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gu872gi2zmajg/Venerus_Files)

I have located most of the articles in the Milton Champion, so I will put them in there as well.

The gas station referred to in the above post appears to have changed from an OLCO Station to a GLOBAL Station but I do not yet know if the ownership has changed. Interestingly, if you use Google Earth Street View you get two different pictures at the same site. You will note that the building on the right has the same address.

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/ad73/vnz1gf1exf8ymao6g.jpg)

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/ecfe/032acr5dzwdgxg66g.jpg)

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a5d5/gs4qp4998aj2wbt6g.jpg)

The site location:

Milltowne Automotive Services
8612 HWY 25, MILTON, ON L9T 5H1
Tel: 905-878-5984
GPS:  43°32'10.16"N  79°54'59.47"W

Halton Crime Stoppers hopes homicide reenactment will generate tips: Videographer Jason Trout and Volunteer actor Fred Barrett recreate a Milton homicide from 2007 at a farmhouse in Oakville on Wednesday evening.

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/69b0/agbm2adyibhrscc6g.jpg)

All the Milton newspaper articles are now in the storage folder (https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gu872gi2zmajg/Venerus_Files) for the period February 2007 to May 2016.
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: jellybean on May 28, 2016, 02:55:14 PM
rlaughton.  Thank you for sharing your very meticulous records on this crime with us.

I did note two things - through google of course, that a baby boy was born in 1970 to a Raymond Michael Venerus, and am wondering if this is the  victim's son from his first marriage and  named the boy after him?

I mention this, as in 2008, a man in his 30's with the exact same first, middle and last name, was arrested by the Milton police for possession of estacsy and dangerous weapons.
And in a small place such as Milton, what would be the odds that the victim and this man are not related?

I also noticed in Ray's obit that the wording was very low key.  Unlike most obit's, family names were not given.  The word family was used only.... not the wife's name, etc.
This struck me as unusual, Ray being a noted local business man, and according to his cousin worth millions.

Since Ray owned much in the way of real estate, and leased many of them out, it would be interesting as to who cashed in upon his death.

The fraud charges executed on a Prison is very daring - and I'll bet the business partners had a lot of laughs about that, until they were caught!!

His murder appears to be an inside, revenge type of killing. in my opinion.
Or, I wonder if the police were constantly keeping an eye on Ray, and he had to be killed so that he would not talk to the police.... on heaven's knows what!!

While the police are saying that it is important to the family that they have justice, I also wonder if police suspect that his murder is possibly linked to other things and believe that his murder covers  - a wider net - shall we say.

Why else would they use a re-enactment of the killing as a first, for Milton police, and why else have they stayed on this case for so long?
They do have other unsolved crimes that the police could have used.  Actually, the info given out was very little. Too little to jog anyone's memory, other than those involved.

In my opinion, and I agree with other posters,;the only way that they will find out who killed Ray is if some small time hood is picked up and makes a deal, in my opinion - or as the police suggest an ex-spouse or associate might have a change of heart and say something worth noting. The above statement by police, makes me think that they are terrified to talk, which makes me wonder about a wider net of criminal activity.

His ex business partner is doing very well in the waste disposal business in Moncton NB.
Not a hint of scandal. A company that NB can be proud of. This makes me wonder who was the real mastermind behind the prison swindle?

And who if anyone  might have been involved in giving them the contract and taken a cut?  Just surmising....which is not surprising!

The date of the trials of the fraud have not been given, nor how long this company swindled before being caught. 

How easy would it be to find a hit man who was just released from prison?

However, the police did say that his murder may not have had anything to do with his past.
  I for one do not believe them.

Ray got out of his vehicle, so how could he be mistaken for his son?
If his son was the target, and the father was murdered by mistake, regardless, they would have got the son by now.

And I just learned via the video that there were several of them.  Who witnessed that?

And one last thing, why would Ray get out of his car?  I wonder if it was an "arranged meeting"? - and he walked into a trap?

jb

Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: rlaughton on May 29, 2016, 10:38:48 AM
I have uploaded a number of other newspaper reports and documents to the shared MediaFire folder (https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gu872gi2zmajg/Venerus_Files) for Ray Venerus.

As I live in town, I know the names of the family but I do not think they would want that information made public. If that information is required by a member for a specific purpose I can release those details directly to the member. Some of the information is in the new newspaper accounts that I uploaded, thus it is already public.

I also researched the related companies and their Owners/Directors/Officers. That is a relatively easy task to search on-line. The information is interesting, however it does not link any of those people to that specific crime.

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/0048/6ztf5g6toaf3aw86g.jpg)
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: jellybean on May 29, 2016, 01:07:46 PM
Thank you for sharing your files.  I have  read a few of them so far, and it is indeed a mystery.

Often, people will leave comments at the end of the articles, and through a few, I have learned that he was also a grandfather, in addition to being a father of young children, his death  has created innocent victims.

His murder was a cowardly act, and there does not appear to be any acts of retaliation, so am assuming this killing was a one off - and it will not go any further.  Almost 10 years have passed.

I wonder if there is still "talk on the street", and if police are keeping their ears close to the ground.

I wonder if he was generally known to police prior to the fraud charges, and if they had additional concerns about him - after? Perhaps this fraud incident was the first and only offense against him?

If police are saying that there is no connection between his murder and the past fraud charges, then what else did  the victim find himself in to warrant his murder?

That is the BIG QUESTION

Murder is a final act.

ps. A news article in the folder, is headed Five from Fero Waste - 4 officials and one company employee.  Only 3 company official names were given along with one company employee.
Was there a fifth?



jb

Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: rlaughton on May 31, 2016, 06:57:22 PM
That might be a reporting error as the Toronto Star 23 February 2007 article says:

The three men and bookkeeper Deborah Ann Marple of Milton all pleaded guilty in 1995 in Milton Provincial Court to six counts each of uttering forged documents in connection with the scam.

I could not find any mention of a 4th and the business was owned 50/40/10 by the 3 men charged.

Albino Pischiutta went to New Brunswick where he still runs Fero and Doriano Poloni appears to be with a waste management firm in Rexdale Ontario. It appears the bookkeeper Deborah Ann Marple was not really involved.
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: jellybean on May 31, 2016, 07:50:05 PM
The men are sticking to what they do best..... Waste Management. How did they get contracts after being charged with fraud and placed on probation?

I wonder if the employee who was owed $19,000 ever received his money??

 And even more serious, from a tax payers point of view,  do Municpalities, OR private companies not bother with  back ground checks on their vendors?

Same goes for obtaining  business license, bonding and workman's comp for their employees.
Waste Mgmt can be a dangerous job, and accidents can and do happen.

jb
Title: Re: Raymond VENERUS - Murder - Milton (February 21st, 2007)
Post by: rlaughton on July 03, 2016, 06:53:28 PM
A new reenactment of the crime was made in 2016 by the newsgroup at CHCH TV in Hamilton, Ontario. I regularly search for a release of this new video but it has not yet appeared. If anyone has found it, please post the link.