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Title: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: debbiec on May 27, 2013, 03:59:52 PM
Search resumes for Lorraine Roach 58-year-old woman missing since May 11

Todd Vandonk | May 24, 2013 - 9:19 AM 


(SELWYN) It has been 12 days since Lorraine Roach was last seen.

The ground search for the 58-year-old woman continued Thursday (May 23) after the search was suspended Wednesday (May 22) as Peterborough County OPP interviewed possible witnesses.

The command post was set up on Lily Lake Road Thursday morning and and members of the Central East Region OPP Emergency Response Team retraced their steps.

“As far as I know, they initiated the search again and they searched the area around where the vehicle was located and they broke off into grids,” explains Constable Iain McEwan.

Ms Roach was last seen when she left her Hilliard Street home at approximately 1:30 a.m. May 11. The 58-year-old woman was reported missing three days later.

Her Pontiac Montana van was found the same day near the access point to the Trans Canada Trail on Akinson Road. OPP have been scouring the area ever since with helicopters, the K-9 unit, all-terrain vehicles and a canoe, searching heavily-wooded areas and bodies of water.

“As long as information comes in, they will continue to search,” adds Const. McEwan.

He says police are still looking for the public’s assistance.

“There has to be someone out there that has seen her,” Const. McEwan says.
Despite many requests from Peterborough This Week the family has declined to comment on Ms Roach’s disappearance.

Ms Roach is described as 5-feet 4-inches tall with dark hair and brown eyes, She wa wearing a three-quarter length pleated coat and a pink sweater.

http://www.mykawartha.com/news/article/1621919--search-resumes-for-lorraine-roach (http://www.mykawartha.com/news/article/1621919--search-resumes-for-lorraine-roach)

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Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: debbiec on May 27, 2013, 04:05:31 PM
This information was sent in to the site. I'm not familiar with all the different areas of Ontario, so not sure if I have posted it in the correct spot. Perhaps someone from the area would know?
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on May 27, 2013, 05:25:23 PM
Yes, Lorraine is missing and her van has been found in that area around Peterborough.  Lily Lake Rd is rural area just north of the city of Peterborough...many people would/could use it to drive into the city of Peterborough from the rural areas.

I wonder what was happening for Lorraine to leave her home at 1:30 in the morning.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Have faith on May 27, 2013, 05:58:58 PM
 This is a very sad development considering the details.  I hope that Lorraine is found safe, and that her family and friends can stay strong during this horrible time.

Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on May 27, 2013, 06:10:10 PM
I to wonder what would make her leave her home at that hour of the morning , and to drive to where the van was found?  Pray she is safe.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on May 28, 2013, 05:19:08 PM
http://www.mykawartha.com/news/article/1622607--how-does-someone-just-vanish-daughter-of-lorraine-roach-asks

 
By Todd Vandonk
|May 27, 2013 - 4:25 PM

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"How does someone just vanish?" daughter of Lorraine Roach asks

Ground search for Lorraine Roach called off as daughter of missing woman says family is hoping for the best

 (SELWYN) George Roach was the last one to see his wife Lorraine Roach.
 She left around 1:30 a.m. May 11. She didn’t say where she was going or why she was leaving. She has never disappeared before, according Jen DeBernardi, Mrs. Roach’s daughter.
“We’re just wondering how does someone just vanish because that’s what it feels like,” explains Ms DeBernardi.
“It is hard to get your emotions around everything. You want to believe the best and that’s what we’re trying to do.”
It’s been 16 days since Mrs. Roach’s whereabouts were known. Peterborough County OPP officially ended its ground search for the 58-year-old woman on Friday (May 24), but the investigation continues.
“The ground search has been put on hold until more information comes in,” explains OPP Constable Iain McEwan.
“They covered a lot of the same ground last week. Without new evidence to proceed or new information to proceed, they’re kind of in a jam.”
Mrs. Roach was reported missing three days after she was last seen. Her Pontiac Montana van was found the same day near the access point to the Trans Canada Trail on Akinson Road. OPP had been scouring the area ever since with helicopters, the K-9 unit, all-terrain vehicles and a canoe, searching heavily-wooded areas and bodies of water.
 Mrs. Roach’s daughter says family has physically scoured areas where police weren’t looking, walking through trails, bushes and marshes in hopes of finding their loved one.
“We will continue to search until we find her,” Ms DeBernardi says.
 The family has also contacted a pyschic, who believes Mrs. Roach will be found. Ms DeBernardi hopes the pyschic is right.
“I have to believe that,” she says.
 tvandonk@mykawartha.com
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on May 28, 2013, 05:39:32 PM
Something doesnt seem right about this to me, she up and leaves at 1:30 in the morning and doent say where she was going?   Wonder what caused her to leave at that hour of the night?
The family or husband wait three days to report her missing?  That makes me wonder why? why the wait?
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Concerned on May 28, 2013, 06:34:23 PM
Reasons a person would leave the house at 1:30 in the morning:

- Someone called and needed her help.
- She was online and someone wanted to meet up with her.
- She got in a fight and left the house to get fresh air.
- She was taken from the house.
- She frequently leaves the house at night.
- She got called into work.
- She had planned on leaving and night would be best, she determined.
- To check up on a another person

Why the wait:

- They really weren't in a hurry to report, because she has done this before.
- They knew she was mad and she would need a day or two to cool down.
- They didn't care.
- They suspect the reason she left could take her a few days.
- It was not unusual for her to leave and come back a few days later.
- They didn't notice she was gone.
- They needed time.
- Make time on someone's side.

What would they need to check to rule out or confirm any of the above:

- Phone records - who did she talk to, when, why. Ping activity.
- Co-workers - was she having problems at home?
- Online records - who did she talk to last, what did she say, when did she post last, what did she post, has she logged in since, was she playing a game with anyone, did she have online friends she would want to see/visit.
- Bank - when were her accounts last accessed, where, why, and any unusual activity. Buy any tickets lately?
- Does she have her identification with her? Her purse? Her passport?
- Did she owe anyone? Did anyone owe her?
- Who were her friends/family, when did she last contact them, why and anything unusual?
- What was her relationship like with those within the house lately?
- Any new information on her health status? Any conditions that would make someone leave and not be able or willing to come back?

Which can be ruled out, and which make more sense.

Why would the authorities not be on it still, what would make them wait for new leads.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on May 29, 2013, 05:32:19 AM
I am surprised the authorities scaled back their search of the area where her van was found....but maybe they want to do more "interviewing". 
I tried to add the google map of the area, but it won't work for me.  The area of Atkinson Rd and Lily Lake Rd (just north of the city of Peterborough) is heavily treed with a river/stream running through it.

At the beginning of the news article I posted, the daughter is saying Lorraine has never disappeared before....and for the woman to walk out at 1:30 a.m. without saying where or what she was doing, just doesn't sit well with me, either.  Why wouldn't she tell her husband if her reason for leaving was a legit one?
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on June 08, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
http://www.mykawartha.com/news/article/1625723--volunteer-search-party-set-up-sunday-for-lorraine-roach

Jun 08, 2013 - 5:25 PM
Volunteer search party set up Sunday for Lorraine Roach
Selwyn woman has been missing since May 11

 (PETERBOROUGH) A group of citizens has set up a volunteer search party for Lorraine Roach, who has been missing since May 11.
 The event begins Sunday, June 9 at 11 a.m. at Ackison Rd (between Lily Lake and Parkhill Road) at the Trans Canada Trail. Police searched the area for several days but organizers hope that fresh eyes will turn up new evidence related to her van being found there shortly after she disappeared.
 "Bring anything you feel would be helpful such as: maps, boots, waders, flashlights, snacks, Canoe, Boat, Walking sticks, lots of bug spray!" says the message on the Facebook page about the search party.
 If they don't cover the whole area, they will begin again next Saturday, June 15, at 11a.m. 
 To find out more and to say you are coming and what searching aids you are able to bring, go to the event's Facebook page.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on June 08, 2013, 07:31:04 PM
How can the Le just stop searching, this woman needs to be found
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on June 08, 2013, 09:57:54 PM
One of many points Concerned made partial quote

Why the wait:

- They really weren't in a hurry to report, because she has done this before.
- They knew she was mad and she would need a day or two to cool down.
- They didn't care.
- They suspect the reason she left could take her a few days.
- It was not unusual for her to leave and come back a few days later.
- They didn't notice she was gone.
- They needed time.
- Make time on someone's side.
Unquote.
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All of the above could well apply to her missing.

 My first question is also;

 Why wait three days to report her missing?  Or did the police not take a missing persons report until 3 days have passed?

How soon did the family notice, on their own that Lorraine was missing.?

Who reported her missing?  Her husband or another family member living in her home?

Did she have an argument at home - and have to leave it, to take a breather?

Does she have a cell phone? and if so,  is it with her?

It is going on one month since her disappearance, and yet her family says that this has not happened before.

Was her car found in good repair?

 Any signs of something untoward in her car?

Where her car was found, was she familiar with that area?

Was her car found close to water??  Did Lorraine show signs of depression?

Oh my gosh, so many questions.
JB

Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on June 09, 2013, 06:23:29 AM
Another question to add to yours, jellybean:   When her vehicle was found was the driver's seat in position for a five foot four inch female driver??  Or....was it moved back for a larger driver?

 Lily Lake Rd. is just on the outskirts of Peterborough.....the old railway trail (now the TransCanada trail) is there.  (I cannot link the map to here, haven't figured out how to do it)   
I am seeing a huge complex that google is saying is a Solar Farm.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: capeheart on June 09, 2013, 11:08:25 AM
It doesn't sound good, the husband being the last one to see her. Also, if she had a bad temper, things may have escalated and something violent occurred. Why would her van be found and she wasn't??? It sounds kind of suspicious. And having the seat checked for distance from the dash, certainly would be a good thing to do. But if this wasn't done, only the person that drove it from the site could vouch for what they did when they got behind the wheel. It doesn't sound good that this lady is safe, she could be anywhere in this area.  :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on June 09, 2013, 08:15:28 PM
Other questions re - the car  - good one about the car seat placement Jobo. 

If she left around 1:30 am she would have had her car lights on.  Was her car found with the lights turned on (the switch in the on position)  if so - should the battery have died, when the battery is re-charged, what time did it say on the car clock? 

And how long would it take for the battery (approx.) to die out? Subtract that amount and it will give a small time-line as to when the car was abandoned.   That is to say, if the car lights were found left on etc. etc.

Where her car was found - did another person leave her home and follow her in their car?  Did neighbours see anything re headlights back outing of the driveway?  Did neighbours hear arguing, fighting, doors slamming?

Have the police ever been called there for a domestic matter?

Where is Lorraine??

JB
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on June 09, 2013, 11:44:06 PM
Sure hope the family and friends continue the ground search for this woman, get the community out they will help search I have no doubt. Dont give up keep search .  You will find her.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on June 10, 2013, 06:25:12 AM
I see from google maps that Lorraine lived outside of the city of Peterborough...and her vehicle was found also outside of the city about 6.6 kms from home.

I like geographical profiling, and one thing that I have noticed....maybe means nothing, but thought I would mention it anyways....where Lorraine lives (rural road outside of Peterborough) there is a Hydro field (right of way) with the hydro towers...and where her car was found is also a Hydro field (right of way). 
 Hydro fields run through the province, of course, but this just niggles at me, the similarities of the two locations.  The Trans Canada trail is also there.

Creature of habit?  (either her or her perp if there is one).
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on July 03, 2013, 07:44:44 AM
I read on WS that Lorraine was a regular at the casino.  The post doesn't say which casino, but I will venture to say it was the one just south of Peterborough, on County Rd. #28.   (Where her vehicle was found is one of the routes she could take to get to the casino, but not a main route.)
Lorraine's daughter says it was not unusual for her to go to the casino in the middle of the night, not unusual for her to be there for extended periods.  That night she went missing she had come back home for more money, and then headed out again.  Her husband says she was not distressed.....

Her vehicle was found facing south (towards the casino).  Her purse was in the locked van, but not her phone and money.

The area she went missing from is very heavily treed.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on July 04, 2013, 12:11:08 AM
wow Jobo thanks for sharing , that is troublesome for sure makes you think there just might be a tie in there.  Wonder if the cassino cameras were checked or if she won a large sum and some one followed her to her van? Just a thought .
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on July 04, 2013, 02:30:10 AM
I would hope that is one of the first things the Police did....check the surveillance cameras at the casino.  Then they would know for sure if Lorraine made it back there the second time.  It is a fairly small casino...and it would not be that busy at that time of night.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Nanc on August 15, 2013, 09:14:37 AM
Any news on Lorraine Roach? This investigation reads so unusual, not leads, no clues yet. Wondering?
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on August 15, 2013, 07:14:17 PM
I read on WS that Lorraine was a regular at the casino.  The post doesn't say which casino, but I will venture to say it was the one just south of Peterborough, on County Rd. #28.   (Where her vehicle was found is one of the routes she could take to get to the casino, but not a main route.)
Lorraine's daughter says it was not unusual for her to go to the casino in the middle of the night, not unusual for her to be there for extended periods.  That night she went missing she had come back home for more money, and then headed out again. 

I doubt if it is suicide - as her money and cell phone are missing.  People with this intention, usually leave these things behind, and in her case it would have been left in her purse.

Jobo, you said her car was pointing towards the casino right?

Looks as though her car was parked neatly off the side of the road, and her car was locked.

 It doesn't look as though  the car was hurriedly abandoned. Looks as though she did this herself? - or someone who knew her, and didn't want the car to be stolen.

This whole  scenario of where her car was found, parked neatly off the roadway, money and cellphone missing gives me the impression that someone "staged" it - to make it look like she was heading off to the casino, and made to look like a possible stop, pullover,  robbery and abduction.

 Car just 7 km from her home. Parked beside Hydro Field which have lights on at night.  (Person would not be getting out of car in total darkness and stumbling around.)
No prints on grass, or any inkling that she had even been there - other than her car.
Which makes me wonder if she was there at all. ???

I mean, it just seems all too neat and tidy somehow.

Her car was sent to forensics.  Hopefully, le will find something in it - which may help to solve the mystery. 
Here is her facebook page set up by her family.
https://www.facebook.com/LorraineRoachMissing 

My goodness, the searches by family are  still going on.

Bless them -

JB
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on August 20, 2013, 06:55:03 PM
No one can spend the amount of time at a casino, like Lorraine two or three days in row was not uncommon, without returning home, by all reports. 

To my mind, she had a debilitating illness, called Gambling.  It brings a family to rack and ruin.
They will lose a home, etc., and still they will continue on.... Casino's win - players will lose -
That is the logistics - and that is why Casino's exist.  Some people never get that into their head, unlike casual players - and Lorraine by all accounts was not a casual player.

I am amazed that her family accepted her absences from her home three days in a row,  at any one given time., which was not uncommon for her. Constant gambling?
I shudder to think of the $ amount of her losses.

jb
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: soccermom on August 20, 2013, 08:15:39 PM
Frankly, I haven't kept up enough with this case -- but I'm not sure it's fair yet to suggest this was an addiction and/or that she had significant losses. That may be true; it may not be. Maybe I've missed some more precise info. But I have only seen her daughter Charlotte (assuming that WAS really who was posting) indicate on WS that her mother had a hobby of spending free time at the casino.  Lorraine  might have played the penny slots for all I know.  She might have gone to the casino to enjoy the kind of social environment where it is OK for someone to arrive alone, rather than out of compulsive need. While I can see that a gambling addiction could have relevance to sleuthing, I prefer, unless there's a link to support these claims, for such intimations to be heavily contextualized as speculative only. MOO :)
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on August 24, 2013, 05:03:53 AM
The Casinos are smart....they are replacing many of their machines with penny machines where the minimum bet is 40cents, which in my opinion will take your $20 pretty fast. 
From what I have read, Lorraine was at the Casino and went back home for more money to return with...and went missing (in the middle of the night) on her return back down to the Casino.  Where her car was found was back roads to the Casino, not the main County Rd.
It is heavily treed in the area her car was found, but I am surprised there has been no sign of her; the area is not that big to search.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Concerned on August 24, 2013, 05:29:50 AM
If she was at the casino, a regular of sorts, wouldn't it seem possible that you would develop a co-dependency behavior with others that have a similar propensity for gambling? So, what if she had announced she needed to go home to get more cash. And, someone left with her. She got the cash. And, they took it from her on the way back to the casino where 1) they could gamble it away, and 2) their car was in the parking lot.

I would be checking the route between the house and where the car was found for Lorraine. In this hypothetical scenario, the perp likely would know that casinos often have some of the best surveillance. So, did anyone leave when Lorraine did? With Lorraine? Or, around the time Lorraine did? Did they get in her car with her to go home to get money? And, around the time Lorraine would be heading back into the casino, was anyone "walking" into the casino parking lot from the direction of the road Lorrain's car was found, around the time she was headed back?  Of course the perp wouldn't driver her car back to the casino...just far enough to walk back.

Does this thought pattern seem like something that could have happened?
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on August 27, 2013, 06:05:40 PM
quote Concerned

"If she was at the casino, a regular of sorts, wouldn't it seem possible that you would develop a co-dependency behavior with others that have a similar propensity for gambling? So, what if she had announced she needed to go home to get more cash. And, someone left with her. She got the cash. And, they took it from her on the way back to the casino where 1) they could gamble it away, and 2) their car was in the parking lot." unquote
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That is a good possibility too.  I also am wondering about global amnesia - stress and anxiety can cause it. According to Lorraine's posts and her family, she suffered from anxiety.
Amnesia from an emotional trauma, or deep seated anxiety episodes can be sudden. - she could have parked that car and kept on going on foot without even knowing who she is.
Recall the woman in the Toronto woman's shelter who walked in there and had no idea who she was?  It turns out she is from the States.  She was eventually identified and  returned to her family (thankfully.)
jb
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on August 30, 2013, 03:30:47 PM
Here we are at the end of August and not a peep as to where Lorraine might me - or even if someone may have spotted her. The police have stopped their searches until they receive a tip.

Seems as though she fell off the face of the earth.  I checked her facebook today, and if I have read it correctly, I believe that she has not been seen on any surveillance cameras either.  Am assuming it would also include the Casino.
https://www.facebook.com/LorraineRoachMissing

jb
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on September 15, 2013, 08:52:54 PM
http://www.missingadults.ca/viewMAcase.php?case=ON-MF-2013-05-01466

Name : ROACH, Lorraine "Lori"
Case : ON-MF-2013-05-01466
 
Date Of Disappearance :  11 May 2013
Additional Images
Location Of Disappearance :  Peterborough County, Ontario
Age At Disappearance :  58 years
Height (estimate) :  163 cm (5'4")
Weight (estimate) :  104 kg (229 lbs)
Hair Colour :  Brown
- dark brown with grey around the face; very thin/fine
     worn just past the shoulders in length 
Eye Colour :  Brown
Gender :  Female
Race :  Caucasian
 
Dental Information : 
Teeth – several dental implants with crown attachments
Fillings – composite resin and amalgam fillings
 Appearance – straight, healthy in appearance
 
Medical Information : 
Heart condition – requires daily medication
Eyes – artificial lens in each eye as a result of cataract surgery
Glasses – wears glasses
 
Notable Identifiers : 
Abdomen – scar from gallbladder removal
Piercings – three piercings in each ear

Habits – drinks decaffeinated coffee
 
Clothing/Jewelry : 
Jacket – ¾ length pleated coat
Sweater – pink sweater, light knit, long-sleeved button-up cardigan
 
Other Personal Items : 
Unknown
 
Additional Information : 
Lorraine was last seen at her home at approximately 1:30 a.m. on May 11, 2013. When she left, she was driving the family van – a 2001 grey Pontiac Montana (Licence plate BMZD600).

The van was located on Ackinson Road near an access point to the Trans Canada Highway on May 13. It was found to be in working order.

 Lorraine’s family is concerned for her well-being as she requires heart medication on a daily basis. She did not have enough medication with her to be gone for any length of time.

According to her family, Lorraine’s disappearance is completely out of character. Police have conducted a number of searches but Lorraine has not been located. The family is continuing to conduct searches. Upcoming searches are posted on Lorraine Roach Missing Facebook page.

Lorraine lives in Sewlyn Township which is part of Peterborough County.

Contact : 
Ontario Provincial Police – Peterborough County Detachment
705-742-0401 or Toll-free 1-888-310-1122
 
Source Links : 
Ontario Provincial Police 
Lorraine Roach Missing- Facebook
The Peterborough Examiner - May 16th edition
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on September 15, 2013, 10:53:42 PM
I am sorry to say this but if she was not seen on any cameras then she did not go to the cassino wondering if they are checking close to home as well.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Logical on September 16, 2013, 03:31:15 PM
"The van was located on Ackinson Road near an access point to the Trans Canada Highway on May 13. It was found to be in working order."

Close to hiway? Was Van operable? Wonder if OPP asked truckers and locals if they picked up any hitchhikers that night in that area? Or saw anyone on the side of the road walking?

Logical

Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on September 17, 2013, 03:27:34 AM
Logical, Lorraine's Van was actually found near the Trans Canada Trail. (Atkinson Rd and Lily Lk. Rd,).....although County Rd #28 is close by and that leads to Hwy #7 (5 minutes up the road) or down to Hwy #401(at least 20 mins south).  Just to clarify a bit, it is the Trans Canada Trail that cuts through in that area.

I wonder if the Police found any tracks...footprints, tiretracks....
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: capeheart on September 17, 2013, 10:57:54 AM
Who is ever to know if Lorraine drove her van to this area, could have been someone placed her van there. Knowing her temper, she may have had a confrontation that did not end well. I hope the police went over her va with a fine tooth comb and also her place of residence. A search warrant should be issued for her  home and surrounding propery. :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on September 17, 2013, 05:45:10 PM
Agreed....there is no 100% proof that Lorraine was the one that actually drove her vehicle to where it was found, even if her purse was found inside.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on September 19, 2013, 01:34:25 PM
I also agree with that thought. There is only one witness who said that she drove off from her home.
No sightings of her anywhere.  Posters have been placed all around the area and other parts of Ontario. Any tips that have come in have dried up. No actual sighting of her anywhere, as far as I know.

Is the roadway lit up at night?  Sounds very rural and possibly dark at nite to me. If that is the case, perhaps that is why her vehicle was parked by the sub station - which would have lights on at nite.

Her car was in running order and had gas in it.  Why would she abandon a car right at that spot, if she wanted to "run away"?
I mean, why not use it to get as far away as possible.  Her family said that she would often be at the casino for a few days without returning home, so she would have had a good opportunity to put some distance behind her, if she chose to.  It would not be necessary to abandon the car.

Very odd that her purse was left in the glove compartment too.

The article said that she left in the family van.  Was this a one car family?? :-\

JB
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on September 20, 2013, 03:35:29 AM
Lorraine's vehicle (not sure if it's their only one) was found near the entrance to the Trans Canada Trail....It's a multi-use recreational trail, and it actually does wind it's way across Canada.
I am thinking you are right about there only being lights at the substation, it is a rural area.  Next time I am out that way I will actually take a detour down Lily Lk Rd. and check out the area for myself.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on September 29, 2013, 12:21:05 PM
OLDER ARTICLE http://www.mykawartha.com/community-story/3717046--how-does-someone-just-vanish-daughter-of-lorraine-roach-asks/
for quote purposes;

"(SELWYN) George Roach was the last one to see his wife Lorraine Roach.
 She left around 1:30 a.m. May 11. She didn’t say where she was going or why she was leaving. She has never disappeared before, according Jen DeBernardi, Mrs. Roach’s daughter

- then we have another version;

This was taken from another website\;
quote
"She was not reported as distressed by my father (last to see her and report her missing) when he last saw her. She apparently was home at 2am to pick up more money for the casino. This was not a 'weird' or 'off' time for her to be up/going out. She was a night owl and frequented the casino late at night as well as being up all night at home with insomnia. She has also gone to the casino for extended periods and this did not seem off to us at first (I had called my dad the day before for mothers day and he said she was still at the casino from the night before and it did not seem strange to me or worry me) Also the cab companies did not report picking her up in that time.
unquote

JB
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on September 30, 2013, 12:09:53 PM
Thanks for copying that, jellybean.  I had read that info previously, I should have forwarded it like you did.

Just want to mention that on the weekend news, that a woman was found dead in her home on Valley Rd. (which is just north of Peterborough).  They want anyone that saw anything suspicious to call the Police, but at this point haven't released any more info pending the Medical Examiner's report.  They did not say one way or the other if it was murder....so I am waiting for up-dates.  I am mentioning it on this thread for Lorraine, because Valley Rd is not that far north of Hwy #7.....north of Peterborough....Lorraine's van was found west of Peterborough.

A friend tells me Peterborough is where many of the inmates (sex crimes) released from Millhaven end up.....this is not official news, but this would not surprise me.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on September 30, 2013, 11:12:31 PM
"She was not reported as distressed by my father (last to see her and report her missing) when he last saw her. She apparently was home at 2am to pick up more money for the casino. This was not a 'weird' or 'off' time for her to be up/going out. She was a night owl and frequented the casino late at night as well as being up all night at home with insomnia. She has also gone to the casino for extended periods and this did not seem off to us at first (I had called my dad the day before for mothers day and he said she was still at the casino from the night before and it did not seem strange to me or worry me) Also the cab companies did not report picking her up in that time.
unquote

Hmm this I am sorry to say seems a little off.  The Daughter called the day before , which was mothers day. What mom doesnt be around to speak to her kids on mothers day? So she was still at the casino from the night before , and on mothers day? then still not home the next day , that seems a little off that would make it a three day stretch.  A person has to sleep some times.  So when was the last time any one saw her aside from the husband who in one artical said she left at 1:30 with out saying where she was going and in another article said she came home a 2:00 am for more money this makes me wonder , did the media get things all wrong , if not something doesnt sit right about that pic.  In canada the casinos are required by law to have videos and yet she was not seen on any video it says in yet another article .  Some think doesnt add up here in my mind.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on October 01, 2013, 03:47:17 AM
I have to agree with you eyeswideopen...this story doesn't sit well with me either.  For some reason, I never clued in that Lorraine missed Mother's Day until you pointed it out.  hmmmm

Perhaps the CCTV at the casino did capture Lorraine leaving, let's say around 1:30 a.m. leaving the parking lot (to go home for more money).  So the last time she was on surveillance was when she left the casino, and she never made it back.
They need to go back into the area of Lily Lk Rd and Atkinson Trail and search again.  I wonder if hunters are allowed to hunt in that area.


Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on October 01, 2013, 10:16:49 AM
I will go back and look but I did read it either here or on her missing on facebooks she was NOT captured in any videos.  Which makes we wonder how long was she really missing for before a report went in?
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on October 01, 2013, 12:48:15 PM
Thanks for going back to check for us Eyes.  Much appreciated.  Mothers day is May 12, she was reported missing May 11th.  I think what the daughter meant was she called a day before May 11th regarding Mother's Day? - Not for Mother's Day. 

Lorraine had a cell phone.  Why wouldn't the daughter call her at the casino?  Did Lorraine give orders not to be disturbed when she was at the casino?

Also, in my home, in the past, the term family vehicle meant just that - one car for the family and everyone drove it.  If she had her own car, I would think it would be referred to as Her vehicle.
(This too, is confusing).

The (one vehicle theory) might explain why hubby didn't go to the casino to get her when she was away for any length of time. 

JB

Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on October 02, 2013, 07:52:31 AM
All I can say is IF Lorraine was at the casino, there would definitely be video of her.....so what gives?  That particular casino also has a race track....for horses and I believe there may be car races once in a while too.
It is a small casino in relation to most.

Hubby and I were actually at that casino a few months ago....we went twice within 4 days.  Something weird caught my attention and I watched an older lady (around 60ish) and two men (younger) wandering around the casino...moving fast.  Then I noticed they were checking machines for cash-out tickets some patrons leave behind (penny or two)..and collecting them.   
The next time we went, a few days later, I noticed the same older lady wandering around again....this time she sat next to an elderly man placing bets at a machine, and started a conversation with him. 
Watching this lady, I wondered what the hell she was up to, I had the impression she was trying to take advantage of someone, anyone.
I hoped they had caught the attention of security and were hustled out....but I have no idea if that happened.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on October 02, 2013, 01:32:38 PM
Here is another mystery to me.

Same Quote from a daughter

"I had called my dad the day before for mothers day and he said she was still at the casino from the night before and it did not seem strange to me or worry me) Also the cab companies did not report picking her up in that time./b]

The van was found locked and facing south (away from home)"

During the extended time that she was at the casino, obviously she had not taken the family car. (as cab companies were checked[/b

]How did she get there? and how did she get home to pick up more money for the casino and use the family car to head back to the casino? 

 ???
jb
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Logical on October 02, 2013, 03:53:09 PM
Hi Jellyben,

I think that maybe a summary of "things" that were already investigated, no times of when these things were acknowledged has been given, the cab checking could have been done once the van was found, or van not found at casino.

Logical
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Jessica- on October 26, 2013, 07:00:57 PM
This is just my opinion, and I honestly mean no disrespect to the family, but have two scenarios that I have thought of.

Could it have been possible that Lorraine had a gambling addiction, I only say this because my aunt has a serious gambling addiction and can stay days at the casino without a care in the world. Could it have been possible that Lorraine spent all of their money and is now trying to get her life insurance policy (If she has one) to cover debt? I also thought Lorraine was retired? So where does all the money to gamble with come from? Her husband, outside sources (Drugs?) or money from someone else (Debt).

Another question:

Why would Lorraine travel all the way back home to get more money, especially if she was known to stay days or hours at a time. This makes no sense, wouldn't she have a debt card? or money in a bank? It makes no sense to drive back for a couple  hundred dollars+, when she could have brought it. Unless she was only limited by her husband a certain amount and had to beg him?

I'm assuming that the Casino attended is in Port perry? So an hour away? Why on earth would you go there an hour, and drive back and hour just to go back again. Three-four hours driving seems out there to grab a bit more cash? No?

Again, no disrespect. I only wish the best for the family.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on October 26, 2013, 07:18:00 PM
My understanding is that Lorraine went to the OLG casino/racetrack that is near the town of Fraserville, just south-west of Peterborough on County Rd.#28.....much closer to her home.
I too wonder why she wouldn't use a debit card...or once she left, why she would bother driving back down again.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Jessica- on October 26, 2013, 07:39:30 PM
You're totally right there is one closer to her. I could only think of the Casino in Simcoe, Port Perry, and Ajax. I thought there was another but didn't know it was that close. Thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on November 08, 2013, 03:33:19 PM
Her daughter said that there has been no activity on her bank account since her disappearance.  Then, I assume she did have a debit card with her.  Strange that she would return for more money, unless there was not enough in her bank account to use her debit card? ..but surely the family would know how much money she had in it via bank statement going to her home by now.

I have "bad feelings" about her disappearance, in that if she left on her own accord, surely she would have contacted a family member by this time via phone.  She had a cell phone did she not?

jb
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on November 08, 2013, 07:44:37 PM
I too think there will end up being not a good end.  I also think some people know a lot more than they are saying . I am amazed that she was not caught on camera any were as I truly believe it is the law to have cameras in the casino for security reasons.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on November 11, 2013, 10:14:50 AM
According to her facebook, the family believes that Lorraine may not be in the Peterborough area.
Judging by the tone of the family, they still believe that she is alive.
(They may know something that we are not aware of.) -

Let's hope that Lorraine picks up a phone, and calls them - at least to let them know that she is fine.
If things have not worked out for Lorraine, the family will gladly welcome her back with open arms.
She is terribly missed.

jb
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on November 28, 2013, 04:31:40 AM
eyeswideopen, I was at that casino a few weeks ago....and I just looked around the lobby and counted at least a dozen cameras....it is a small casino and not that busy....in fact I think I mentioned that the staff is friendly with the regulars....they probably knew her since it sounds like she was a regular at night.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on November 29, 2013, 01:05:18 AM
I too have been to that casino in the past and know there was cameras so wonder why she was not caught on the camera as the police stated that says to me , she was not at the cassino . Just my opinion of course .
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on December 11, 2013, 08:06:49 PM
Lorraine may have been caught on camera earlier, at the casino, earlier in the day.  Did the cops or family say that she was not caught on camera at anytime during that day?  Or were camera's never mentioned??
I think the camera idea came from us, this site.  So I would like to know, if cameras at the casino have ever been brought up by le or family?
Any info on that?? :-\

Also, how may km's is it from her home to where her car was found? 
Is it possible to bike it??

jb

Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on December 11, 2013, 08:45:54 PM
I tend to agree with Jessica, in that Lorraine may have had a gambling problem.  Jobo, you said the slots were penny slots.  Where I live the slots take toonies and loonies, I think - not sure anymore, as I don't play them.  Have seen people going through loads of money at one sitting.

Are there not other slot machines at that casino that would take more than a penny??

I cannot picture a woman( at that early am) driving down that rural road, park her car, lock the door behind her and leave.

At the very least, I cannot picture a woman making a pre-arranged time to meet someone at that hour, down that rural road, park and lock her car, and not bring her purse (which was found in the glove compartment) with her.

JB


Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on December 11, 2013, 09:24:03 PM
I know a penny doesn't sound like much, but the minimum bet on many of the machines is 40cents...and a lot of people bet more than minimum bet.  So, you can go through money pretty quickly.  The machines that are disappearing are the nickle machines. 
I will bet the Police have any info the casino had, if in fact they had some.

I believe that it is possible to bike it.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on December 12, 2013, 12:27:26 AM
There are more then penny slots at that casino I have played there and there is a variety of price unless they changed it in the last couple of months, I have played the quarter slots, the dollar slots, and the 5 dollar slots there .
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on December 12, 2013, 05:52:25 AM
True, eyeswideopen, seems to me they are bringing in more penny machines, but there is still many machines with the other denominations, like you say.  Who knows what Lorraine's favourite machines are, but I'm sure she had a few.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on December 12, 2013, 08:20:53 PM
Well, about penny slots, I sure wish we had them out west,  Not true here! Slot machines are big time, no pennies.

jb
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on December 12, 2013, 08:34:29 PM
Jb penny slots cost more than quarter slots not cheap to play enough of the penny slots you end up playing any were from two to five dollars in most cases each spin. Quarter slots are cheaper.  spent the day seaching to see if there are any updates on her but nothing I could find
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on December 12, 2013, 09:20:22 PM
Well, any family that accepts the fact that a family member is gone for days at a casino, tells me that this family member had a gambling issue.

jb
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: LorraineRoachMissing on March 25, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
Hi Everyone
My account finally let me log in!!

My Mother was 'reported missing' on the monday 13th. I called her the 12th for mothers day and my father said he had not seen her since saturday night for more money (which wasnt entirely strange as yes she did like to go to the casino for a long stretch of say 24 hours). She was last seen on the Kawartha downs surveillance footage on WEDNESDAY the 8th. That was also the last time she had any activity on her computer. So technically most of our family believes she has been missing since the wednesday.

Her van was found facing the direction of the casino (van was about 5 minutes from her home) but under NO circumstance would she ever voluntarily leave her van if she say had to say, pee (she has peed her pants before driving home at night because she was too afraid to stop) or to get out to help someone. She would NEVER ever do that. So yes the van was probably planted there.

The contents inside the van included her engagement ring (no wedding ring) her purse including wallet with these things missing: No keys, cell phone, drivers license, health card, gas card. All of those things have been tagged and there has been zero activity on them. She has a heart condition and needs medication which would of run out on the monday (they were auto renewed at the pharmacy)

The area was scoured by not only police, dogs, 4 wheelers, divers, helicopters and infrared, but also extensively by family and friends, even strangers. We have also searched other areas we thought she might be and postered and cried out to paper across Canada (most of which ignore our pleas)

Also in regards to the foot found, that was a mans DNA and the shoe was too big to be my mothers.

There are still zero leads or clues :(


here is the latest interview with my brother Andrew and I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXcW8Ek4SO8

Thank you for reading this and if you have any questions I will respond as soon as I can

Charlotte Roach
youngest daughter

Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on March 25, 2014, 05:42:04 PM
Thanks so much for  logging on, and clarifying a few points, Charlotte.

So, first and foremost, your mother was NOT at the casino that night (Sat night according to your dad) or come home from the casino for more money.....or else the casino's last CCTV of your mom would not be the Wed the 8th....it would be Sat the 11th.

I see you say MOST of your family believes your mom technically went missing on the Wed...but why did you come to that date?  Because that is the last time anyone but your dad saw/talked to her?  And the last time she was on her computer?  Casino surveillance?  Wow many days passed.  Because the dogs didn't find any trace of your mom around where her van was....well, that confirms to me that she may not be near there....but closer to home, and that the van was planted.  Do you know in which position the driver's seat was?  Was it in position for your mom?  Does your dad have his own vehicle?   

I am sorry, but in my opinion, when there is another search, it should start from her home (where she was reported missing) to Lily Lk Rd....and I believe the Hydro field runs all the way through that area, that is where I think the search should be.

I am sorry for your suffering, but hopefully the weather smartens up soon and you can get out looking.

(I cannot open any youtube videos for some reason or else I would watch your link.)

edited to add: I don't talk to my kids every single day, but if I was not on the computer too, I am sure it would cause major concern.  I very rarely talk to my brother except on the computer, so there is certain habits that we notice about other's behaviours....and when they are off then it is cause for concern.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on March 25, 2014, 07:38:57 PM
Thank you so much for responding Charlotte.  I thought much the same as  Jobo.  I also thought at one point that Lorraine may not have been in that car, and to search in the opposite direction.  I too wondered if  that the car was planted to make it look as though she was heading to the casino.

 Your brother has not had the opportunity to speak to a particular person? Is that person avoiding everyone's  questions??

I think of you and your siblings so often. Charlotte!! I do not live in Ontario, so was unable to assist you.

I could not help but notice that it is Lorraine's children who are doing all of the work, ie facebook page, news articles, posters, organizing searches.   All three of you should be commended. I hope you will consider, searching closer to home.
Take care
JB
The items removed from her wallet is actually her identification is it not?
A robber would not of left the engagement ring.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Concerned on March 25, 2014, 08:01:18 PM
Hi Charlotte, I am so sorry to hear of your family's circumstances. Welcome to our site, and thank you for posting/clarifying some details. A few questions, if she was at the casino Wednesday and that is technically the day you feel she was last seen for the reasons you post, do you know if she had any big winnings? Could someone have followed her and car locked her in to take her money. Was money missing from her purse? Did she have any big withdrawals from her bank account that she made around the time of the disappearance?

If so, someone could have forced her to a bank location to withdrawal. 

However,  if money wasn't missing from her purse, then the motive is narrowed down a bit further. It wasn't for the vehicle, if it wasn't for the money, that narrows the possible motives instead. If the car was planted there, or she was blocked in and forced from the vehicle we would have to ask, "Why? What would they want? Why only her?"  I have to admit that trying to obtain just a person (no money, or valuables) from a moving vehicle would not be a perp's main way of abducting someone, so I believe that could narrow down the motives as well.  Just the very fact the car was planted, tends to suggest motive as well. Robberies, abductions don't seem to drop a vehicle off in the middle of nowhere, they just want the money, or the person. This seems to suggest someone wanted to make it look like she was someplace else, other than the place of happening. That also points to motive, why wouldn't the person want the vehicle where "whatever" happened?

And thirdly, on the road that her vehicle was found, is there any businesses or private residences with surveillance cameras (either direction  of the road, both preferred) which could show the traffic that was following her vehicle, or that followed the same path and shortly after came back the other way, etc.   Or, did they capture someone on foot walking back?  Or, forward?  Did they capture the inside of her vehicle where they  could see if there were one or two people inside? Who was driving? Where was the passenger - backseat?

Just some thoughts that came to mind.

Again, very sorry you and and that your family is going through this.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on March 26, 2014, 10:35:50 AM
Totally agree with you jellybean.....a robber would NOT leave the engagement ring behind.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on March 26, 2014, 12:21:16 PM
Lorraine was very capable and active on computers.
examples"

Lorraine was also into tweeting - https://twitter.com/madmoneyonline

She had a site on Anxiety - http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Lorraine-Roach/1261924728
http://anxietyended.com/?f
This domain is now up for sale
http://domainnamesales.com/domain/anxietyended.com

Questions for Charlotte: Did the police look at her computer?
and did the police check out her cell phone records?
Someone knows something -

jb

Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Concerned on March 26, 2014, 07:17:29 PM
Good point. Perhaps noting what her last few conversations, thoughts, and concerns were in the days, week prior might give some clues. And, did she meet anyone new lately, or did anything out of the ordinary happen lately? People tend to have patterns, and when something or someone comes into the scenario it changes things.

Did she by any chance put anything up for sale lately? Where strangers would come by the house for any reason? Or meet up to look at a (cell phone) she was trying to sell, or anything like that?
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on March 27, 2014, 09:55:13 PM
My Belief is what the son says , kind of says it all for me and they need to look closer to home or very very far away wed to saturday is quite a length of time
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on March 28, 2014, 02:30:44 AM
I managed to watch the video, and I have to agree with you eyeswideopen.  The son (or police) need to talk to the last person who saw Lorraine.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: databrain on April 03, 2014, 06:44:39 PM
So sorry that your Mom is missing and there seem to be few answers.

I think your instincts are bang on about the Wednesday night.  People tend to be creatures of habit, so if she was on the computer daily, then nothing....that is highly unusual.

So if Wednesday is the last time there is any trace of her, that would indicate that the report of a last sighting of Saturday night is not correct.

Could there have been a fight back at home about what transpired at the casino visit on the Wednesday night? Maybe a big loss?  Does the Casino keep records of people's activities?
 
I can't imagine being so indifferent about my partner's whereabouts and to wait so long to report them missing. From the outside, it certainly seems like bizarre behaviour.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: LorraineRoachMissing on April 10, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
jobo: Well she might not have been missing since the wed night... but that was the last time she was seen at the casino and we are unsure of what happened the thursday and friday
My dad has his own truck yes. He idnt really ever drive my moms van

We would like to do more searches yes and I will mention this (starting/ending from the van to the house)

Thank you jelly bean. Also, no they arent 'avoiding' questions, there was just a bit of a situation previous to all this and it kind of got tangled together and words were not shared like maybe they should have been.
Agreed, a robber would not have left the ring
The police have her computer right now but it is a VERY slow process. (they also have my dads) I got a chance to look through it for a few days before they took it. I went on her accounts and emails and never saw anything. She wasnt too computer savey and I didnt see anything weird or odd. Her cell phone also hadnt been used in awhile... it was more for emergencies. I called rogers a month later to check in and there was still no activity on it. It had been out of use for about 5 months before it got cancelled due to inactivity.

Concerned: she was not seen or noted by the casino as having any big winnings. She allegedly came back at 1:30am sat for more money to play...
She never really had any money/cash on her and there wasnt any in the van or the $200 she got the sat morning. She did not have any money in her bank account as she was on disability and there were no withdrawels.
There is a house at the top of the hill that the police talked to so assuming no video from them as well as the other house at the other end of the road...
She did say to my aunt (her sister) that 'she should go be with her daughter in australia' and gave hera tv and microwave they had an extra of.... so there might of been something going on in her mind.. but what. where is she now

The OPP dont have any searches planned as of right now no. They dont spend resources on searches unless there has been a specific tip or clue that she has been seen somewhere. We have gottn them to include the alberta police now after many suggestions that she could be out there (a trip was in the works with my parents to go there to see her birth home Bruderheim)
The family has some searches planned for us and I am currently planning a postering event that we hope goes Canada wide. (see facebook page for more info) :)

The OPP did dust the entire van for prints but all they can tell us so far is there was male DNA in the van along with my moms DNA
They have gotten my dads DNA to compare it to see if it is an unknown male (my dads DNA will be in the van regardless because he was in it before)

Yes we agree and agree the van could definitely be staged

The position of the drivers seat was back as if someone was 'sleeping' in it. Her jacket was also thrown over the drivers seat headrest (not neatly)

If she had a panic attack, which could of happened... where is she now. She needs medication for her heart and there has been no use of her health card etc and no name changes (like maiden name or other family last names)
Could you clarify on that a little more docwho3?
ALso she was not an angry woman no... Her anger came out in sadness and depression...

Thanks guys

edited to remove quote taken from another site.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on April 15, 2014, 03:05:03 PM
Hi Charlotte; Thank you for answering our questions and providing us with a better picture.

There are a few things that I am not clear on, and perhaps you can answer them.

A Question
When was her car located on that road? I am wondering as to how long the car was sitting there, from the Saturday when she returned home and left with more money for the casino. Did the police have any idea?

Another question:

Were her car doors found locked?

and quote Charlotte "The contents inside the van included her engagement ring (no wedding ring) her purse including wallet with these things missing: No keys, cell phone, drivers license, health card, gas card. All of those things have been tagged and there has been zero activity on them. She has a heart condition and needs medication which would of run out on the monday (they were auto renewed at the pharmacy)unquote:

Another Question:
Wouldn't the $200 which her hubby gave to her on the Saturday also be missing? - She was not seen at the casino since  Wednesday - never made it to the casino on the Saturday? So she would of had $200 on her person right?

Also the remainder of her heart pills would also be missing? one pill for Sunday and perhaps the Monday, the day of  refill?
Did she carry her med's in a prescript bottle??

Question:

When you speak of her jacket being tossed on the head rest on the drivers side - do you mean her pink coat? (The description of her coat as given on her Missing Persons poster) - or a suit type jacket? (I think you mean a suit type jacket or you would not have included her pink coat in the description on her Missing Person Poster.
Is that right?

Question:

Is it possible that Lorraine would sleep in her car for awhile, and then go back into the casino? (I think she must have, from time to time)  - at least in the past. I know that I would have to take a few winks.

Did she ever eat anything while at the casino? (No one can go without food or something to drink 24 hours at a time).

By your description of the drivers seat being pushed back, would it be possible that your mom pulled over to take a few winks, with the intention of carrying on to the casino when she woke up?

The Thursday and Friday are unaccounted for.

 Now that is a puzzle.  If, as an example,  she had stayed with a friend on those days, one would think that this person would come forward as everyone in the area must know that she is missing.

And since she went to the casino often and stayed for long periods of time, surely she must be well known there by regulars and management.  Did she ever mention any names? 

Would management talk to you and answer these questions? ie did she have any casino friends?  Did she often catch a few winks in her car in their parking lot when needed? 

  Stay strong Charlotte!!  Blessings to you and your family.

jb








Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on May 23, 2014, 08:56:03 AM


Lorraine Roach has been missing for more than a year
 Peterborough This Week
By  Todd Vandonk 

PETERBOROUGH-- Andrew Cocks has always suspected foul play was involved in his mother's disappearance.

Police are now on his side. Peterborough County OPP confirmed the Central OPP criminal investigation unit has taken over the investigation into Lorraine Roach's disappearance, after classifying it as missing person’s case for more than a year.

“The OPP believe is foul play is suspected in the disappearance of Lorraine Roach,” OPP Constable Greg White said at press conference on Chemong Road, where a missing person sign was unveiled on Thursday (May 22).

“We are confident someone out there has the information that can solve this case and bring Lorraine Roach to her family, and the family deserves the right to closure,” adds Const. White.

Just over a year ago, police focused their ground search for Mrs. Roach at the Akinson Road access point to the trail. She was reported missing on May 12, three days after her husband last saw her leaving their Hillard Street home at approximately at 1:30 a.m.

Peterborough County OPP searched tirelessly for weeks, using helicopters, the K-9 unit, all-terrain vehicles and a canoe to comb  for clues, but the investigation turned up nothing.

READ MORE

How Does Someone Just Vanish?

Husband Defends Himself Against Son's Accusations He Is Responsible For Woman's Disappearance

“I’ve always felt there is foul play involved,” Mr. Cocks says.

Mr. Cocks believes George Roach, his stepfather and Mrs. Roach’s husband, is responsible for his mother’s disappearance.

“Hopefully we can continue to push the investigation and solve this,” adds Mr. Cocks.

At the beginning of the month, Mr. Roach told This Week that he had nothing to do with his wife vanishing. At that time, Mr. Roach said he had been interviewed a handful of times since his wife disappeared and OPP have searched their home and property as well as property the family owns up north. He also said police asked and he gave them a DNA sample because they found blood in the van. Police have also asked him to take a lie detector test but, as of May 8, had yet to take one.

Mr. Roach, along with his daughter Charlotte, were at Thursday’s press conference but he declined to speak with This Week.

“If you have any information, no matter how small it may seem, please call OPP or crime stoppers. You could hold valuable information that helps to solve this investigation,” said Const. White.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on May 23, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
Thank you Jobo for bringing us up to date. Very sad indeed.

My heart goes out to Charlotte.  I believe that George is her father.  Something like this, can tear a family apart - at the very time when they need each other to cling to.

In George's defence, I found this article.

http://www.mykawartha.com/news-story/4509912-one-year-later-where-is-lorraine-roach-/

Her husband defends himself from accusations from her son



MyKawartha.com

By  Todd Vandonk 

PETERBOROUGH-- George Roach maintains he has nothing to do with his wife’s disappearance.

While his two daughters stand by his side, his stepson and Lorraine Roach’s sister Ann Walton and brother Mark speculate Mr. Roach is responsible for her disappearance.

Mr. Roach says he last saw his wife one year ago today (May 9) when she left her Hilliard Street home at 1:30 a.m.

“I miss her every day,” says Mr. Roach.

“I don’t wake up in the morning without wondering where she is and wondering why she is not there.”

Mr. Roach says his wife was supposed to be going to the casino when she left that early morning. He reported her missing three days later when she didn’t return home.

READ MORE: Children still hopeful Lorraine Roach is alive

Andrew Cocks, Lorraine’s son from her first marriage and stepson to Mr. Roach, says Mr. George’s story doesn’t add up because video coverage at the casino last shows his mother there on the Wednesday before she went missing, leaving a span of five days where Mr. Roach was the only one to have contact with her.

“We definitely speculate that something isn’t right and George is involved,” says Mr. Cocks.

He and Ms. Roach’s two siblings confronted Mr. Roach two months ago and straight out asked him where Mrs. Roach’s body is.

“It floored me,” Mr. Roach says about the encounter.

“I was so shocked.”

READ MORE: 'How Does Someone Just Vanish?'

On the recorded conversation, Mr. Roach says it was common for his wife to be at the casino for a couple days and he didn’t start worrying until he knew her medication supply would run dry. The day she was reporting missing, Mrs. Roach’s van was found near the Akinson Road access point near Trans Canada Trail. Peterborough County OPP searched tirelessly for weeks, using helicopters, the K-9 unit, all-terrain vehicles and a canoe to comb for clues in the heavily-wooded area and bodies of water which surrounds the trial. However, the investigation turned up nothing.

Yesterday (May 8), OPP investigators and members of the Emergency Response Team searched the Selwyn Conservation Area near the B.E.L Rotary Bridgenorth Trail, which runs between 7th and 5th line, just down the road from the Roaches’ home.

“The OPP are dedicated to following all leads that will assist in determining what caused her disappearance,” says OPP spokeperson constable Bruce Hanna.

“Obviously there is some concern because this is a missing person for over a year now.”

OPP say Mrs. Roach’s case is still considered a missing person’s case and not a homicide. Mr. Roach says he has been interviewed a handful of times since his wife vanished. He says OPP have search their home and property as well as property the family owns up north.

“They did their searches with dogs and everything else,” he says.

“I will do ever it takes and I will do whatever they want.”

About a month and a half ago, Mr. Roach says police asked and he gave them a DNA sample because they found blood in the van. Police have also asked him to do a lie detector test but he has yet to do one.

“George says he is an open book with police yet he refused a lie detector test,” says Mr. Cocks, despite Mr. Roach saying he didn’t refuse the test.

“I believe there’s questions he still needs to answer,” adds Mr. Cocks.


JB
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: debbiec on June 13, 2014, 10:14:17 AM

This article is from May 21, 2014.


OPP unveil new sign on Thursday to help find missing woman

Lorraine Roach has been missing from Peterborough for a full year now
 

PETERBOROUGH - The OPP is putting out the word in a new way to help finding Lorraine Roach, who has been missing for more than a year.

Thursday, the police and Crime Stoppers are unveiling a 'missing person' sign on the west side of Chemong Road, between County Road 19 and Milroy Drive. Ms Roach's family members will be there for the 12:30 p.m. ceremony.

Police plan to update the community on the case at the same time.

Ms Roach was last seen leaving her Hilliard Street home at 1:30 a.m. on May 12, 2013. Her van was found with blood inside, but she has not been in touch with her family since her disappearance.


http://www.mykawartha.com/news-story/4532143-opp-unveil-new-sign-on-thursday-to-help-find-missing-woman/ (http://www.mykawartha.com/news-story/4532143-opp-unveil-new-sign-on-thursday-to-help-find-missing-woman/)
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: justsayin on June 13, 2014, 10:50:13 AM
Her van was found with blood inside?  I didn't note that previously.  How much?  I think your assessment of the situation is bang-on Angel Trust.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on June 13, 2014, 11:54:31 AM
Points were well given Angel that is for sure -

Sometimes the obvious may "appear" to be obvious , and the list of questions asked on this site, were intended to gently have a certain family member look in  another direction, other than "missing",

 I am surprised that a family member has recently come out publicly accusing him of being the culprit, even though public opinion may also wonder, if perhaps one should look "closer to home:. However, the man should not be blamed and tried in public opinion via a press release.

Read it here:
http://www.durhamregion.com/news-story/4510626-one-year-later-where-is-lorraine-roach-/

I am willing to bet that step son  had conversations with the police, and "insisted that they take a closer look at a possible poi very early on - after the searches brought up nothing.   It is a shame that he had to push and push in order to get action - however, in my opinion, I wish he had not gone to the press about his suspicions. That is all that it is - suspicion.

There are other family members who have to live within that community, most notably the youngest daughter who has been doing the really heavy lifting in locating her missing mother.  The posters and flyers, the arranged private searches, the interviews, etc.  Does it not in the end leave "egg on her  face"?

It is very obvious that the youngest daughter has tried to be supportive of her father, after all, he is all that she has left of her family -  By his step son  accusing him, he has already been tried in the public, and this is unfair. He has not been charged with anything, nor has he been publicly labelled a poi by law enforcement. He has spoken to the press in his defence, to counter the accusations made by step son - and what a sad state of affairs to have to do that. He has yet to take a polygraph test, so be it. Many people do not take these tests and the courts do not allow them in.
Poly's can be open to interpretation.

I know it will be said that at times one has to go to the press to place pressure on the police, but I get the impression that the step son is very capable of doing this behind the scenes, and had already accomplished his goal. Going to the press and insisting that it must be homicide is one thing - but to name a person is quite another. This may have created more harm in the family than good.

I hope the community will embrace Lorraine's children, and be very kind to them, regardless of the public naming of an individual. . At this time, possible shunning of this family  is a very  deep concern that I have. After all, they are innocent victims in all of this.

In any event, a big step has been taken in considering this to be a homicide and the investigation will continue on behind the scenes, press or no press, and an arrest of someone will be made in the end.

Just my feelings and opinion on this....... 
JB
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: debbiec on June 17, 2014, 09:43:28 AM
Quote
I am surprised that a family member has recently come out publicly accusing him of being the culprit, even though public opinion may also wonder, if perhaps one should look "closer to home:. However, the man should not be blamed and tried in public opinion via a press release.


Quote
By his step son  accusing him, he has already been tried in the public, and this is unfair. He has not been charged with anything, nor has he been publicly labelled a poi by law enforcement.

This is correct JB. As far as this board goes, we may all have our own thoughts about what happened to Lorraine, however we need to be cautious when expressing them. We can not accuse someone who has not been named a poi by law enforcement.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on August 30, 2014, 05:52:19 AM
I just read online (kawartha lakes news) that police are searching on ATV's and using unmanned drones around Lorraine's Hilliard St. home...The area around her home is rural and swampy etc. 
sorry I cannot post the link...can't figure out how on my iPad.

I get the feeling they will find her closer to home, rather than where they found her vehicle.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Logical on August 30, 2014, 06:18:41 AM
Here is an article from another feed.

http://www.northumberlandnews.com/news-story/4800433-opp-searching-property-of-missing-peterborough-woman-s-husband/

Aug 28, 2014  | Vote0   0
OPP searching property of missing Peterborough woman's husband
Lorraine Roach disappeared more than a year ago; on Wednesday (Aug. 27) police searched behind the home of her husband


Search for Lorraine Roach
Todd Vandonk
On Wednesday, OPP were searching a wooded area along Hilliard Street Wednesday (Aug. 27) as part of the investigation into the disappearance of Lorraine Roach.
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Peterborough This Week
By  Todd Vandonk
PETERBOROUGH -- Peterborough County OPP are searching the woods behind the home of George Roach, whose wife Lorraine disappeared more than a year ago.

On Wednesday (Aug. 27), there were four police vehicles parked at the nearby Eastern Star Temple on Hilliard Street. Since 10 a.m., officers had been searching the woods, which run behind the temple and Mr. and Mrs. Roach's Hilliard Street home. It was the first time OPP have searched that area. OPP were back on Thursday searching in the Hilliard Street and County Road 19 areas.

Mrs. Roach went missing last May. Earlier this week, OPP released stills from surveillance footage of her at Galaxy Cinemas. It was the last time she was seen in public.

OPP believe foul play is responsible for her disappearance. Mrs. Roach's son, Andrew Cocks, believes his stepfather, Mr. Roach, was involved her disappearance. Mr. Roach denies any involvement.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Logical on August 30, 2014, 06:21:16 AM
And another one

http://www.northumberlandnews.com/news-story/4509912-one-year-later-where-is-lorraine-roach-/


MyKawartha.com
By  Todd Vandonk
PETERBOROUGH-- George Roach maintains he has nothing to do with his wife’s disappearance.

While his two daughters stand by his side, his stepson and Lorraine Roach’s sister Ann Walton and brother Mark speculate Mr. Roach is responsible for her disappearance.

Mr. Roach says he last saw his wife one year ago today (May 9) when she left her Hilliard Street home at 1:30 a.m.

“I miss her every day,” says Mr. Roach.

“I don’t wake up in the morning without wondering where she is and wondering why she is not there.”

Mr. Roach says his wife was supposed to be going to the casino when she left that early morning. He reported her missing three days later when she didn’t return home.

READ MORE: Children still hopeful Lorraine Roach is alive

Andrew Cocks, Lorraine’s son from her first marriage and stepson to Mr. Roach, says Mr. George’s story doesn’t add up because video coverage at the casino last shows his mother there on the Wednesday before she went missing, leaving a span of five days where Mr. Roach was the only one to have contact with her.

“We definitely speculate that something isn’t right and George is involved,” says Mr. Cocks.

He and Ms. Roach’s two siblings confronted Mr. Roach two months ago and straight out asked him where Mrs. Roach’s body is.

“It floored me,” Mr. Roach says about the encounter.

“I was so shocked.”

READ MORE: 'How Does Someone Just Vanish?'

On the recorded conversation, Mr. Roach says it was common for his wife to be at the casino for a couple days and he didn’t start worrying until he knew her medication supply would run dry. The day she was reporting missing, Mrs. Roach’s van was found near the Akinson Road access point near Trans Canada Trail. Peterborough County OPP searched tirelessly for weeks, using helicopters, the K-9 unit, all-terrain vehicles and a canoe to comb for clues in the heavily-wooded area and bodies of water which surrounds the trial. However, the investigation turned up nothing.

Yesterday (May 8), OPP investigators and members of the Emergency Response Team searched the Selwyn Conservation Area near the B.E.L Rotary Bridgenorth Trail, which runs between 7th and 5th line, just down the road from the Roaches’ home.

“The OPP are dedicated to following all leads that will assist in determining what caused her disappearance,” says OPP spokeperson constable Bruce Hanna.

“Obviously there is some concern because this is a missing person for over a year now.”

OPP say Mrs. Roach’s case is still considered a missing person’s case and not a homicide. Mr. Roach says he has been interviewed a handful of times since his wife vanished. He says OPP have search their home and property as well as property the family owns up north.

“They did their searches with dogs and everything else,” he says.

“I will do ever it takes and I will do whatever they want.”

About a month and a half ago, Mr. Roach says police asked and he gave them a DNA sample because they found blood in the van. Police have also asked him to do a lie detector test but he has yet to do one.

“George says he is an open book with police yet he refused a lie detector test,” says Mr. Cocks, despite Mr. Roach saying he didn’t refuse the test.

“I believe there’s questions he still needs to answer,” adds Mr. Cocks.

Follow Todd Vandonk on Twitter @KawarthaVandonk

Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Logical on August 30, 2014, 06:29:18 AM
And another with her seen at the movies

http://www.mykawartha.com/news-story/4777464-missing-peterborough-woman-lorraine-roach-last-seen-at-galaxy-cinemas

Aug 25, 2014  | Vote0   0
Missing Peterborough woman Lorraine Roach last seen in public at Galaxy Cinemas
OPP release stills of security camera footage that shows missing woman's last known whereabouts


Lorraine Roach at Galaxy Cinemas
Security camera footage from Galaxy Cinemas captured Lorraine Roach purchasing a ticket to see the film Oblivion. She has been missing since May 10, 2013.
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Peterborough This Week
By  Todd Vandonk
PETERBOROUGH -- The Roach family hopes new images of their mother help piece together the story behind her disappearance.

On Monday (Aug. 25), OPP released images of Lorraine Roach on the Friday before she was reported missing by her husband George Roach. The images are stills from video surveillance at Galaxy Cinemas on Water Street around 6:40 p.m. on May 10, 2013. According to police, Mrs. Roach appears to be alone, and purchased a ticket for the movie Oblivion.

READ MORE

OPP Suspect Foul Play Involved In Lorraine Roach's Disappearance

Husband Defends Himself Against Accusations He Is Responsible For Wife's Disappearance

Children Still Hopeful Lorraine Roach Is Alive

How Does Someone Just Vanish?

She was later seen leaving theatre, wearing a three-quarter length pleated coat with a pink sweater as described previously by police. Mrs. Roach’s children Charlotte, Jennifer, and Andrew viewed the video today.

“She looked to be OK and didn’t look like she was in distress,” says Charlotte.

“I am glad they’re releasing it. Maybe someone was there and remembers bumping into her.”

Charlotte says it was weird that her mother would attend the movies alone.

“She would probably usually go with my dad. Maybe she wanted to get away or she had stuff on her mind,” she explains.

“It was uncommon.”

Charlotte says there’s still a time between when the movie ended and the return to her Hilliard Street home. There’s evidence that Mr. Roach took money out of the bank night, so his wife could go to the casino. Mr. Roach says  he last saw her leaving the house for the casino around 1:30 a.m.  on May 11, but didn’t report her missing until May 14. Peterborough County OPP searched tirelessly for weeks, using helicopters, the K-9 unit, all-terrain vehicles and a canoe to comb  for clues, but the investigation turned up nothing. Almost a year after vanishing, Mrs. Roach’s son Andrew Cocks told
myKawartha.com
that he believed his stepfather George Roach was involved in his mother’s disappearance, but Mr. Roach denied any involvement. A few weeks later, OPP held a press conference to announce that case had been turned over to the Central OPP criminal investigation unit and that foul play is suspected.



Follow Todd Vandonk on Twitter @KawarthaVandonk

Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on August 30, 2014, 08:57:22 AM
May 10th was a Friday.  According to George she had been at the casino for about two days prior and had returned home around 1:30 a.m to get more money.  Surely she would of told him that she went to a movie that nite (Friday)- or did she?  Seems to me this couple did not talk very often to each other.  There was stress in that marriage in my opinion.  The last time she was seen at the casino, if I recall, was on the Wednesday prior. 

So where was Lorraine on the Thursday and even on the Friday prior to going to the movie?

I think that Lorraine was at home on the Thursday and the Friday up until movie time. Where else would she go?
She was on a disability pension, so she would not have money to stay in a hotel.  No mentioning of any close friends.

She strikes me as being a very lonely and unhappy woman, although always putting on a cheerful face when need be.

I am shocked that the police did not check around the area of her residence.

My thoughts go out to Charlotte and other family members at this very trying, and stressful time.

JB
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on August 30, 2014, 05:11:02 PM
My thought go out to all of the kids and the brothers and sisters for sure .  I think hope of here being found alive had diminished with time.  Wonder what the her son and her brother and sister know that we dont  that would be interesting to bad they wouldnt come on here a share some infor that would be interesting to know 
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on September 02, 2014, 01:18:37 PM
http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/2014/08/28/police-search-for-lorraine-roach

Search continue behind Lorraine's home./jb
=====================================================================

Police search for Lorraine Roach    

By Joelle Kovach

 Thursday, August 28, 2014 6:57:03 EDT PM
Peterborough County OPP are conducting a new ground search of a wooded area near the home of a Peterborough woman who went missing more than a year ago.

Lorraine Roach, 58, was last seen leaving her Hilliard St. home at about 2:30 a.m. on May 11, 2013. Her minivan was located, but no trace of Roach has ever been found.

Searches were done at the time but turned up nothing. On Wednesday and Thursday, police looked for Roach in a swampy, wooded property at Hilliard St. and County Rd. 19.

The search came after police released new video images of Roach on Monday.

In security camera footage, Roach is seen buying a ticket alone for a movie at Galaxy Cinemas on Water St. on the evening before her disappearance. Police say it was the last time Roach was seen in public.

Charlotte Roach, the daughter of the missing woman, said her family has been hoping for some time that police would conduct "a more in-depth search" of the wooded property near the house her mother shared with her husband George.

"We're glad there's still action and activity going on," said Charlotte Roach, 30, who lives in Peterborough.

She said it's been a "hectic" week for her family.

"But we're glad the OPP's investigating, and the case hasn't gone cold," she said.

Lorraine Roach also has another daughter, Jennifer, and a son, Andrew.

Shortly after she vanished, police found Lorraine Roach's Pontiac Montana van on Ackison Rd. south of Lily Lake Rd. just west of the city near an access point to the Trans-Canada Trail.

Daughter Charlotte, who works as a merchandiser at Future Shop, says it's been a very difficult time for her family but that they've been coping "one day at a time".

"We're just doing what we can," she said.

Roach is described as five feet four with dark hair and brown eyes. She was wearing a three-quarter length pleated coat and a pink sweater when she disappeared.

Anyone with information can call police at 705-742-0401 or 1-888-310-1122. Tips can also be made to Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477 and online at www.stopcrimehere.ca.

joelle.kovach@sunmedia.ca


Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on September 18, 2014, 02:13:09 PM
I just heard that several police have been out searching for Lorraine around Fife's Bay Rd....which is in - between where she lived, and where her vehicle was found.   Apparantly the police got a tip(s).
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on September 18, 2014, 10:43:00 PM
Thanks for sharing that info.  I have a gut feeling they will find her in the next couple of days . Hoping for resolution for the family
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on September 18, 2014, 11:54:38 PM
LE have spent a lot of money looking for Lorraine.  When they get down to sawed off hockey sticks -- that tells me, that they have spent enough.  Cadaver dogs are not cheap. 

Law enforcement  have had helicopters, searchers, even drones over swamp areas. the last big search, with cameras on the drones, to have experts look at the pic's to see if there is anything unusual..... I mean really - They spared no expense in searching for her. Only so much money is  in a law enforcement budget.

see unmanned drones link
http://www.mykawartha.com/news-story/4805536-unmanned-drones-used-in-search-for-lorraine-roach/ 

There will come a day, when her remains will be found, either by a hiker, or a person out walking their dog.
It happens - a lot.  Even cops recognize it, in discovering remains.

Frankly, common sense says, that Lorraine is deceased. Why- we don't know.

Hats off to law enforcement for all that they have put forward in the search for Lorraine...

If anything  comes from this tip, of which I doubt,  I would say -let it rest for awhile.
Re- group!!.

JB

ps: I so wonder where this "tip came from" ?  I don't trust it!! Perhaps someone close to the investigation, who had a brain wave? Someone who wanted that area searched- just to be sure?  Sorry, it is just me......

Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: I care about Canadians on November 02, 2014, 03:04:18 PM
House searched in missing woman Lorraine Roach investigation

By Jason Bain, The Peterborough Examiner
Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:50:29 EDT PM
 
The search for Lorraine Roach, missing since May 2013, is now focused on the Selwyn Township home she shared with her husband George just north of the city.

Police issued a forensic warrant for the home and will be there Tuesday and Wednesday, Roach’s daughter Charlotte posted on Facebook on Tuesday.

OPP then issued a press release confirming officers with the Peterborough County OPP detachment’s crime unit and provincial criminal investigations branch and forensic identification services executed the warrant looking for any evidence that could aid the search.

Investigators suspect foul play and police have previously searched the wooded area surrounding the Hilliard St. home, near County Rd. 19.

The 58-year-old was last seen leaving the home at about 1:30 a.m. on May 11, 2013. Her Pontiac Montana minivan was located near the Trans Canada Trail on Ackison Rd. south of Lily Lake Rd., but no trace of her has ever been found.

On Aug. 25, provincial police released security camera images recorded at about 6:40 p.m. on May 10, 2013 at Galaxy Cinemas at 320 Water St. in Peterborough that show Roach when she was last seen in public, police said.

She appears alone in the footage, which confirmed she purchased a ticket for the film Oblivion. It was also confirmed that she left the theatre alone.

Roach is described as five feet four with dark hair and brown eyes. She was wearing a three-quarter length pleated coat and a pink sweater when she disappeared.

The investigation continues under the direction of Det. Insp. Kari Dart of the OPP criminal investigations branch.

Charlotte could not be reached Tuesday for comment. She said in August that her family has been hoping for some time that police would conduct “a more in-depth search” of the wooded property near the Hilliard St. house.

Lorraine also has another daughter, Jennifer, and a son, Andrew.

NOTE: Anyone with information, including anyone who may have seen Roach that day, can call police at 705-742-0401 or 1-888-310-1122. Tips can also be made anonymously to Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477 and online at www.stopcrimehere.ca.

jason.bain@sunmedia.ca
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on November 02, 2014, 06:24:29 PM
Thanks for the update.  So, Lorraine was seen at the cinema the night before she went missing.  Or, should I say the night she went missing.

Edited to add:  I'm surprised they never searched her home much sooner than now.  After all, that is where she was last seen.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on November 02, 2014, 09:55:52 PM
quote Jobo "I'm surprised they never searched her home much sooner than now.  After all, that is where she was last seen. unquote.

Can you believe it?  They checked their property up in northern Ontario, sent out drones, dogs, boats, cops searching in grids, but never thought to check the house? 

After a year has passed. "Ah, did you check the house?  No, I didn't check the house, I thought you checked the house!" :o 

JB  ::)
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: Logical on November 03, 2014, 01:26:24 PM
I believe this last home search was for specifics, they had a forensics warrant, they must have a warrant to search her home for evidence regardless if she is missing, maybe they needed a lead or evidence before they could get a warrant, maybe it took this long to get one approved?

Common guys, how can you think they never went in the house when she first disappeared? <critiquing others comments>.the police are not stupid and have rules and regulations and they follow well documented polices.


I believe they have already been in the house, but a forensics warrant will allow them to collect DNA evidence I would presume.

If the husband had denied access to their home, I am pretty sure the media and his step children would have been all over that and LE would not wait a year to try to get into the house. The LE's in this case have spared nothing so I would be surprised if they had not been in her home already.

But a return visit with a forensics warrant is very interesting, to get a warrant you must be very specific as to what you are looking for and have some proof that it should be there before a judge will sign it.

Logical
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: justsayin on December 29, 2014, 02:02:12 PM
http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/2014/12/29/opp-to-share-news-on-missing-person-probe-tuesday

Provincial police will hold a media conference Tuesday to “make a significant announcement regarding an ongoing and local missing person investigation tomorrow in Peterborough,” the Peterborough County OPP detachment stated Monday.

There are a couple of high-profile missing persons investigations continuing in the city and county.

Lorraine Roach, 58, has been missing for more than a year and a half.

She left her home on Hilliard St. just north of the city at about 1:30 a.m. on May 11, 2013. Her Pontiac Montana minivan was located near the Trans Canada Trail on Ackison Rd. south of Lily Lake Rd., but no trace of her has ever been found.

Lise Fredette, 74, disappeared after leaving her evening shift at Walmart on Chemong Rd. on Nov. 12. Andrew Watson, 76, has been charged with first degree murder, but Fredette's body has not been located. Her keys and glasses were found in her Bensfort Rd. driveway.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on December 30, 2014, 01:34:57 PM
Thanks justsaying for the heads up.  Looks like this is not a slam dunk case /jb
A $50,000 reward is being offered by OPP.

http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/2014/12/30/50k-reward-offered-in-case-of-missing-lorraine-roach
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: capeheart on January 01, 2015, 01:14:21 PM
I am a bit confused on Lorraine's case. So the last known place she was, was the movie. Then she was supposed to have gone home and then left and went out again. So now they feel she may have been a victim of domestic violence, is that what I think has happened. Hoping this case is solved, so the family will know what has happened to Lorraine.  :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on May 01, 2015, 07:01:50 PM
Perhaps police have an idea as to what happened, but cannot prove it?

Forensics checked inside her home in October of 2014.  Surely,  if there was anything of interest sent to the lab, the results would be back by now?  Still nothing?

It will be two years in twelve more days, that she went missing.
Police  believe that she may be a homicide case, and yet ... not one clue.
JB
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on May 05, 2015, 01:36:26 PM
http://www.mykawartha.com/news-story/5594915-two-years-later-and-still-no-sign-of-lorraine-roach/
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on October 04, 2015, 12:28:10 AM
Police are asking Hunters to keep their eyes peeled for signs of Lorraine

http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/2015/10/03/hunters-asked-to-help-in-search-for-lorraine-roach
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on October 04, 2015, 06:32:33 AM
I'm glad to see the Police are actively trying to solve Lorraine's disappearance.   Lots of bush and vacant land between her house and where her Van was found.
My thinking goes to the Hydro right of way that cuts through the land from Lorraine's house to Lily Lk Rd....where her Van was found.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: eyeswideopen on October 06, 2015, 12:56:10 AM
I thought that as well , and I am sure hoping something turns up this hunting season so she can be laid to rest  at the very least.  I know longer have hope she is alive , as a mother would have contacted her kids if she could 
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: ususcatmcdirvm on October 18, 2015, 05:23:29 PM
hi there...I was just reading on the facebook page that she left in the afternoon but earlier on here I thougth I ready that she left at 130 a.m.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on October 20, 2015, 07:52:59 AM
I recall reading that Lorraine left her house in the afternoon, supposedly to go to the casino, CCTV did not catch her there..BUT CCTV caught her at the movie theatre in Peterborough, I believe the nine o'clock movie.
Her husband says she returned home in the early hours...1:30 am.  He was the last to see her and says she went to the casino....but like I say the casino never captured her on CCTV.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on March 18, 2016, 11:11:05 PM
Bumping up Lorraine Roach.  2016 and still no sign of her.  Disappearance - suspected homicide.

jb
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on March 27, 2016, 05:40:30 PM
Not sure why they haven't combed the area better...from Lorraine's house to where her van was....she has to be there, they just haven't found her. 
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on March 27, 2016, 10:45:54 PM
I wonder if the car was driven there, and abandoned by the killer, to make it appear as though Lorraine was abducted from that spot.  Her car doors were locked, and if my memory serves me right there was $200 in her purse which was left in the vehicle.

jb
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jobo on March 29, 2016, 01:43:07 AM
I do think the van was left there to make it look like Lorraine was heading to the casino...and somehow ran into danger/murder....but I don't think that happened.
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on March 29, 2016, 11:50:33 AM
I do think the van was left there to make it look like Lorraine was heading to the casino...and somehow ran into danger/murder....but I don't think that happened.


Right on!! imo.  There was some blood found in her vehicle, wonder whose it was?
If it was Lorraines, then she was transferred in her own car by the killer to a place where her body could be concealed, then the vehicle was driven by the killer to the spot where it was abandoned, which was on the way to the casino. 

The tapes from the casino, did not produce a pic of Lorraine being there.  In fact, she was seen alone at a movie.

An interesting point - her wedding ring was found in her purse, along with the $200 of which her hubby went to an ATM and withdrew it for her.

So far, this appears to be the "perfect murder", no set timeline, no remains - just a vehicle parked and locked on the side of a road pointing towards a casino.

jb

Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on July 22, 2016, 09:18:48 PM
http://www.ontariopolicereports.com/2016/05/lorraine-roach-still-missing-three-years-later/

Lorraine Roach still missing three years later
By Mitch Harasym -  May 13, 2016

(Selwyn Township, ON) – On Monday May 13, 2013, officers from the Peterborough County Detachment of the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) were called to investigate a report of a missing person from a Hilliard Street address located in Selwyn Township. Lorraine ROACH, who was 58 years old at the time of her disappearance, was last seen leaving her residence on May 11, 2013 at 1:30am. After extensive searches by the OPP, family members and volunteers there is still no sign of the missing Selwyn Township woman.

Three years have passed since Lorraine was last seen and police continue to investigate every tip as they are called into the crime office. This investigation remains active and continues under the direction of Detective Inspector Rob Hagerman of the OPP Criminal Investigation Branch (CIB).

Investigators are confident that someone holds the key to information which will solve this missing person case. If you have information about the Lorraine ROACH disappearance please contact Detective Constable Trevor McLaughlin at the Peterborough County OPP (705) 742-0401, the Provincial Communication Centre (PCC) (888) 310-1122 or Crime Stoppers (800) 222-TIPS (8477).
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on July 22, 2016, 09:40:50 PM
I wonder how this case is going?? or where it is going?
Any suspects? - person of interest?

jb
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on September 09, 2017, 05:07:53 PM
When one goes back to page 1 on this thread to read everything, the fact that LR did not show up at the Casino.  In fact she went to a movie instead. I question whether she left her home at 1:30 a.m as stated to go to the casino to gamble.

I think police should revisit the whole thing again - go back to square one.
The only one who holds the key, imo is the killer of LR.

jb
Title: Re: Lorraine Roach - 58 - Missing - May 11, 2013 - Peterborough, ON
Post by: jellybean on November 12, 2017, 03:34:26 PM
A REMINDER

http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/2017/05/12/peterborough-area-woman-lorraine-roach-missing-for-four-years-now

Peterborough area woman Lorraine Roach missing for four years now
By The Peterborough Examiner
Friday, May 12, 2017 5:07:30 EDT PM

Peterborough area woman Lorraine Roach has been missing for four years now and her disappearance remains unsolved.

She was 58 at the time and was last seen leaving her home on Hilliard Street just north of the city in Selwyn Township at 1:30 a.m. on May 11, 2013.

Peterborough County OPP were called to investigate her disappearance on May 13, 2013.

Her Pontiac Montana minivan was located near the Trans Canada Trail on Ackison Rd. south of Lily Lake Rd.

After extensive searches by the OPP, family members and volunteers there is still no sign of her, Const. Jason Folz stated Friday.

In 2014, OPP investigators revealed that they suspect foul play in her disappearance.

In December 2014, a $50,000 cash reward was offered for anyone providing information leading to the arrest and conviction of anyone responsible for her disappearance.

An active investigation continues under the director of Det. Insp. Rob Hagerman of the OPP criminal investigation branch.

"Even after four years, investigators are confident that someone holds the key to information which will solve this missing person case," Folz stated in a news release.

Anyone with information about the disappearance can contact Det. Const. Trevor McLaughlin at the Peterborough County OPP at the detachment at 705-742-0401, or through the OPP provincial communication centre at 1-888-310-1122 or Crime Stoppers anonymously 1-800-222-8477, or online at www.stopcrimehere.ca.