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Title: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: Besani on April 02, 2013, 10:57:20 AM
It was the perfect day weather-wise to participate in a search for a St. John’s man who has been missing since Feb. 8, but it wasn’t the perfect ending.
The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary (RNC) joined the Rovers Ground Search and Rescue Tuesday in the city’s east end in an effort to find clues to Joshua Miller’s disappearance.
RNC Sgt. Rick Thorne told The Telegram Tuesday evening officers thought there was chance something might be uncovered, given the recent mild temperatures and the amount of rain cutting away at the snow.
“No, they never found anything,” he said.
“They just thought to revisit the area and maybe pick up some information by going over it with the Rovers, but it was to no avail,” Thorne said.
The media relations officer couldn’t be reached to find out what the next move is in the search for Miller.
The RNC suspended the ground search Feb. 14, but is still actively investigating his disappearance
Miller was reported missing Feb. 10, but was last seen by friends on George Street during the early morning hours of the day before. 
After an altercation in which he was reportedly kicked in the head by an assailant outside the Sundance bar, according to friends, Miller was put in a cab by himself.
A friend of Miller’s who was with him that night lives in the Stavanger Drive/Blue Puttee Drive area.
Police have asked residents of the area to check their backyards and sheds for any signs of him.
Miller is described as being 6’1” and 180-185 pounds. He has short, sandy-coloured hair and blue eyes.
At the time of his disappearance he was wearing jeans and a black T-shirt, according to police.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: Besani on April 02, 2013, 10:59:13 AM
Whoever kicked him in the head needs to be found and dealt with. Obviously Josh suffered from his injuries and ran off to die somewhere. I think the other person should be charged when Josh is found.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: kMiller on August 12, 2013, 03:05:09 PM
Things do not add up in this case. More has to be done to find him.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: debbiec on August 12, 2013, 04:25:27 PM
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After an altercation in which he was reportedly kicked in the head by an assailant outside the Sundance bar, according to friends, Miller was put in a cab by himself.

Surely the cab driver would have been asked where he dropped him off. That would have at least given some idea of where to begin looking.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: EastCoastGirl on August 12, 2013, 04:51:52 PM
I always thought this case was a little odd. I mean, Joshua apparently had a lot of friends and Newfoundland is pretty tight knit... but there's virtually nothing on him in the last little while. No real updates. I couldn't even find a Facebook group about him AT ALL. I found his FB account and looked around at his friend's accounts, but I didn't really find anything with his picture, information about him missing etc.

I'm sure this isn't the case, but it FEELS like no one really cares? :S
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: EastCoastGirl on August 12, 2013, 04:52:54 PM
Things do not add up in this case. More has to be done to find him.

Why do you say that KMiller? Btw, I agree! wanting to hear more from you!
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: jellybean on August 12, 2013, 07:00:29 PM
I found an excellent article - and the reader's comments are worth taking in.   Comment  from a guy who drives cabs. included
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-06-12/article-3274519/Still-no-trace-of-Joshua-Miller-four-months-after-bar-fight/1

Still no trace of Joshua Miller four months after bar fight
Four months after a popular young man got into a scuffle on the George Street bar strip in St. John’s, he seems to have vanished.

Searchers say they’ve come up empty and have no fresh clues that might help them find 20-year-old Joshua Miller.

Friends have said they put him in a cab alone outside a George Street bar early on the morning of Feb. 8 after Miller was kicked in the head during a drunken fight.

Searchers repeatedly scoured backyards, sheds and a heavily wooded area of the east end of St. John’s where police say Miller was last seen.

“It’s unusual that we’ve found absolutely no evidence,” said

Sgt. Hubert Hall, search and rescue co-ordinator for the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary.

Miller, who worked at a George Street bar and had a second job to pay his way through school, has a wide circle of friends who were out in all kinds of weather trying to find him.

Hall said an extensive ground search Feb. 10, the day Miller was reported missing, was followed the next day by a mounted unit that went over the area. A canine unit and a helicopter joined in Feb. 12 and there was another expanded ground search March 5, he said.

When the snow cleared, an even bigger search April 27 involved about 60 people, most of them volunteers from the Newfoundland and Labrador Search and Rescue Association and other regional groups, Hall said.

“There was no clues or evidentiary value that would assist in the investigation.”

Harry Blackmore, co-ordinator of the local Rovers Search and Rescue team, took part in all five efforts.

“We’ve checked every backyard, sheds, under different things that we could get at through all kinds of wooded areas, every kind of path that you could think of,” he said.

“We broadened our search into the heavy woods where rabbits got a job to run, but people went through it.”

The area where Miller was last seen has been “saturated” using a grid approach in which searchers walk closely together in lines, Blackmore said.

“We’ve exhausted every avenue that we can from the search and rescue part of it as to where he could have went. All we know is that he was dropped off on the street and we start from there.

“If we found a clue belonged to him, we would definitely do another search. But until something shows, I don’t think there will be any other searches done right now, anyway.”

A spokeswoman for the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary said the investigation continues, but there is no new information to report.

Peter Brushett, Miller’s boss at The Martini Bar on George Street, said friends and co-workers have kept in touch with police for any news.

“Josh was a good kid,” Brushett said. “I mean, he was working his way through school same as any other typical, young 20-year-old. And he was just a really good guy.”

Blackmore said his team has done all it can and is ready to head out again at the first request from investigators.

“We’ve dealt with the family ourselves as a search team,” he said of Miller’s closest supporters and loved ones. “And the family knows we’ve done everything we could do.”

Miller is described as about 6-1 and 185 pounds with blue eyes and short, sandy-coloured hair. Police say that at the time of his disappearance he was wearing jeans and a black T-shirt.

Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.

Check out reader comments from provided link.

 
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: capeheart on August 13, 2013, 11:05:31 AM
Was it confirmed that Josh was put in a taxi and sent home?  Something the same thing happened in PEI a couple of years ago. A man came home on vacation, he was well known and had a professional job. He was quite full that night and he got out of a taxi and was going to his mom's home. He had no sense of direction and they found his body in the water, which was not far from where she lived.  People come very disoriented when intoxicated. Also Joshua had an injury, so he may have gotten out of a cab and could have ended up anywhere. Is there any water around where he would have gotten out of the cab??? He could have been washed away with tides.  So sorry the family has not found any answers to his disappearance.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: Dulsebunny on August 21, 2013, 07:42:43 AM
Updated info on Aug. 13. Police received new info but haven't heard a word since.
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-08-13/article-3349579/RNC-checking-out-new-information-in-Joshua-Miller-missing-person-case/1
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: Dulsebunny on August 21, 2013, 07:52:25 AM
Capeheart: It is said that they were searching the area of Stavenger Dr. and Blue Puttee. They don't intersect, though. Stavenger Dr. is a big box store area while Blue Puttee is residential. Lots of woods and several ponds but it's not really near the ocean.
I'm not sure they said exactly where he was dropped off but surely the taxi driver would know.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: kMiller on August 24, 2013, 06:14:27 PM
Joshua supposedly hopped the cab in the Stavanger Drive area, running into the woods leaving a fairly new iPhone in the back of the cab yet the cab driver did not report the incident right away. Now any decent person who seen a completely wasted young man run into the woods in the middle of winter wearing little clothing would report that to the police, let alone the fact that he never paid for the cab.
This does not make sense.
Joshua was also training for the police force, and spent years as a cadet officer, so hopping a cab and running into the woods would be completely out of character for him...drunk or not.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: jellybean on August 24, 2013, 06:47:49 PM
In addition to being kicked in the head, he may also have been slipped a Micky Finn - or some such drug.  If not - the brain injury resulting to being kicked in the head, might or might not explain his behaviour. 

The fighting outside where he received a bashing might have resulted in him taking some type of drug, thus being somewhat aggressive,  of which his friends will never admit to.

Why this person who kicked Joshua in the head has not been charged.  Cops need witnesses, and they also need to talk to Joshua to confirm it - to lay assault charges.  That would be the first charge.
Therein, if they can prove that the head injury caused his strange behaviour, then further charges can ensue.  However, they cannot find Josh. Perhaps his friends or witnesses are not cooperating with the police ie: the name of the person who kicked him in the head.

If they do find Josh deceased then, an autopsy will show what the cause of death was

Depending upon the outcome, then the correct charges may be laid..

This is in my own humble opinion.

JB

A young man with such promise and still missing is very upsetting indeed!!

Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: Dulsebunny on September 05, 2013, 08:36:53 AM
I agree K Miller. It does not make sense about the taxi. Was the driver keeping the phone in lieu of payment? If I was in possession of a phone and hadn't been paid, I would be calling all the numbers in it trying to track him down-either for the money or to return the phone. Years ago, my daughter left her phone at a business in another province where she was living. A kind lady found it and called the "mom" number. The driver should have at least contacted the dispatcher with the info that a guy got out without paying. People get charged for it all the time.
Of course, we have no way of knowing what questions the police asked him and how he answered them. Might be a logical explanation.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: eyeswideopen on September 05, 2013, 10:46:15 AM
something doesnt sit right about that taxi driver.  Was he not bound to let the dispatcher know a cell phone was left in his car.  Was he questioned and his criminal record checked by police, was his log of calls checked.  I am thinking the taxi driver needs to be scrutized a bit more in my opinion.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: kMiller on September 06, 2013, 06:49:35 AM
New media releases on this case are few and far between, it almost seems like nobody is even looking for Joshua anymore.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: EastCoastGirl on September 11, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
It's strange... Not only because there's not much attention in the media, but I could never find a Facebook group either. Usually when someone goes missing, especially at his age, a Facebook group is made.. I couldn't find one.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: jellybean on September 23, 2013, 09:22:17 PM
I wonder if Josh was found, in other words he is no longer missing.  I mean there are no further appeals from the cops or his family for the public's help. 

Perhaps he arrived home safely and his family would just like the matter dropped and forgotten???
Don't know. ???
jb
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: Dulsebunny on September 26, 2013, 09:11:31 AM
Jellybean: I suppose it's possible. I often share pics of the missing and many times you never hear if they have been found. You have to assume they have been if you never hear about them again.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: kMiller on September 26, 2013, 03:53:53 PM
Josh has certainly not been found! The media does not do enough to cover this case. It's sad people believe he has been found. The public should be made more aware.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: kMiller on September 26, 2013, 05:18:27 PM
In regards to his family not looking for him, I can assure you they are.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: EastCoastGirl on September 27, 2013, 12:21:31 PM
Hi KMiller,

I am wondering if it would be beneficial to open a Facebook group for him. Not only does it put him back in the spotlight (on social media anyways), but we can come together and maybe do our own search for him or SOMETHING. If traditional media isn't paying attention, then maybe we should bring this to social media!

This is so shocking. Newfoundland is small and close knit... one of our own is missing!
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: kMiller on September 27, 2013, 02:51:15 PM
I would love to do this!
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: Dulsebunny on September 27, 2013, 04:33:15 PM
K Miller: I don't think anyone was suggesting that his family wasn't looking for him if he is still missing-only that he may have been found and it wasn't made public. Unless it was on the CBC news site, I would never know.
It's a good idea to start a FB group. If you do-let us know. I don't do pages or open groups but I would be happy to share the link on my wall.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: Dulsebunny on November 14, 2013, 08:19:02 AM
New search for Joshua Miller in Mobile yields no results:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/joshua-miller-search-takes-turn-to-southern-shore-1.2426166
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: SAP on November 14, 2013, 09:01:19 AM
Missing Canada Facebook also publicizes Missing Persons and Brian keeps a running commentary of the missing. Just "like" the site to get frequent feedback.

https://www.facebook.com/MissingPeopleCanada

That way Joshua keeps getting passed along on everyone's feed who can then "like" and share to their friends and the public. The viewing audience is large, across Canada.

eta: I have sent the following link to Missing Persons Canada FB:

http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-06-12/article-3274519/Still-no-trace-of-Joshua-Miller-four-months-after-bar-fight/1
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: Besani on April 11, 2014, 09:59:01 AM
Obviously hes in the woods and the cab driver is a dummy for not reporting it. they may habe been able to find him sooner but with the head injury he probably died in the night.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: Annastaisha on April 12, 2014, 09:10:48 AM
I recently started working as a dispatcher for a cab company. The cabbies that I work with - most would not report an incident like that and if they did, it would be because they were stiffed on cab fare and marked as No Service - if we knew who he was. Generally after the bar, we just "FLAG" cars - meaning a generic message to all the cars out that night that there are people at a bar - we don't dispatch individually to a bar in bar hours (just residential addresses).  It very well could be that the driver was holding onto the phone for payment. Drivers where I work are allowed to take collateral.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: RubyRose on April 12, 2014, 03:39:15 PM
That would make sense, Annastaisha.  Also, unfortunately in this particular case, the cab driver may not have realized he was as badly injured as he was.

Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: Annastaisha on April 14, 2014, 05:13:50 PM
Ruby - people with head injuries can often be mistaken for being drunk - same symptoms like slurring and incoherent babbling and somewhat odd behavior. You are probably right, the driver may not have even recognized that Josh was injured.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: EastCoastGirl on May 03, 2014, 07:25:44 AM
I live in Newfoundland and have been following this missing person report quite closely. I find it SO strange that I never really hear anything about him at all (in the last year). Nothing in the news, on Facebook, etc. We even have mutual friends on FB and nothing....
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: jellybean on May 05, 2014, 12:46:07 PM
Here is an article posted in February of this year. It is from the Telegram - so the police are still investigating/ jb

http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2014-02-07/article-3607609/Joshua-Miller-missing-for-one-year/1

Joshua Miller missing for one year

Josh Josh PennellPublished on February 07, 2014

RNC asks again for public’s help in solving the case


The RNC reiterated its plea to the public today to bring forth any information they may have about the disappearance of Joshua Miller.
RNC asks again for public’s help in solving the case



Miller, 20, was reported missing on Feb. 10, 2013. He was last seen when he left downtown in the early morning hours of Feb. 8 and jumped out of a cab near Stavanger Drive.

“Even the smallest piece of information sometimes can be very important to a police investigation,” acting Sgt. Todd Barron said at a news conference in St. John’s.

Police have investigated many tips since Miller went missing, the most recent coming in just a few weeks ago, Barron said.

Despite investing what Barron described as a lot of time and resources, the tips have not led to anything conclusive.

“Most of the leads came from the perspective of sightings — seeing him in certain areas. And people who he was with on the night he disappeared,” he said.

Miller was in a physical altercation downtown before jumping into the cab and disappearing. He was wearing jeans and a black t-shirt despite the cold temperatures. The RNC said they have ruled out the altercation having anything to do with his disappearance.

There has been no activity on any of Miller’s financial accounts since he was last seen. Despite this, the RNC is not assuming anything.

“At this point we have no evidence to suggest he is not alive but, again, we remain open to all possibilities,” said Barron.

Miller is described as 6’1” and 185 lbs with short sand-coloured hair and blue eyes.

Anyone with information on Miller is asked to contact the RNC at 729-8000 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477), or email missingpersons@rnc.gov.nl.ca . Information can be submitted anonymously on the NL Crime Stoppers Website www.nlcrimestoppers.com.


josh.pennell@thetelegram.com




Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: jellybean on May 22, 2014, 10:23:19 AM
It is a 17 min drive (approx.) from the bar to his friends area. Reports are that he jumped into a cab at the Sundance Bar - and another report is that his friend placed Josh by himself into a cab at the Sundance Bar.

Which is true?  Placed and jumped can make a big difference in the condition of Josh at the time.

Reports say that Josh jumped out of the cab near Stavanger Drive. This is where his friend lived.

Perhaps in the telling, there is something screwy right there.

If Josh had to be placed in a cab by someone, that usually means that Josh was not in very good "shape" - and if he jumped out of the cab - then he was not too bad off at the end of the 17 minute drive. REALLY? 

Is the  "assisting friend" one and the same who lives on Stavanger Drive?

Or, was there a different friend who lived on Stavanger Drive?

Was it ever firmly established by the police that the cab story is true?? If a fare was picked up, was it really Josh who was the passenger? How could Josh jump out of a cab when injured and drunk?

That area was searched with a fine toothed comb.  I say that Josh was not there. I think that if such a passenger existed, then it was not JOSH. And the first statement that Josh was placed in a cab is NOT TRUE.



JB
 ::)


Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: jellybean on May 22, 2014, 02:40:29 PM
Joshua supposedly hopped the cab in the Stavanger Drive area, running into the woods leaving a fairly new iPhone in the back of the cab yet the cab driver did not report the incident right away. Now any decent person who seen a completely wasted young man run into the woods in the middle of winter wearing little clothing would report that to the police, let alone the fact that he never paid for the cab.
This does not make sense.
Joshua was also training for the police force, and spent years as a cadet officer, so hopping a cab and running into the woods would be completely out of character for him...drunk or not.

So, this person left an ipod in the backseat?  Could of dropped it accidentally when he jumped out of the cab.
Was it Josh's ipod?  Do you know?

If this cabby incident happened.  Then it is quite possible that someone from the bar hopped into the cab, gave an address, other than his own - but close enough to his - asked the driver to stop - jumped out of the cab, ran into the woods.
No cab driver in his right mind would chase him into there.   Then when the cab drove off - the guy walked home.
He stiffed the cab driver out of paying fare.  And - when the story came out - that it was Josh - this person did not step forward

I doubt if this was Josh.  By all accounts this young man worked - was putting himself through school - and as you say, he had plans on going into law enforcement. 

JB
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: jellybean on June 07, 2014, 10:09:48 PM
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2014-06-06/article-3754221/Clues-lead-to-new-search-for-Joshua-Miller/1

Clues lead to new search for Joshua Miller

Published on June 06, 2014


New information concerning a St. John’s man who vanished without a trace over a year ago has convinced police to search the Mount Scio Road area of the city.

 
Joshua Miller. — File photo


         



Joshua Miller, 20, was initially reported missing Feb. 10, 2013. He was reportedly involved in an altercation on George Street and was placed in a cab by friends. Miller was later dropped off in the Stavanger Drive area wearing only jeans and a t-shirt.

Several areas have been searched since then, including the Stavanger Drive area and Mobile, but no trace of Miller was found.

Late Friday afternoon, the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary announced it will conduct a search this weekend around Mount Scio Road.

Shortly after Miller’s disappearance, the RNC reported that someone saw Miller at approximately 8 a.m. in the area of Baird Place off Thorburn Road. That same day, he had reportedly been spotted near the Avalon Mall mid-afternoon. Mount Scio Road also connects to Thorburn Road.

The RNC is asking anyone with information about this case to contact police and provide as much detail as possible. The RNC’s major crime unit recently set up a direct tip line at 729-8800.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: jellybean on June 13, 2014, 04:45:34 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/rnc-say-nothing-found-in-latest-search-for-joshua-miller-1.2669232



RNC say nothing found in latest search for Joshua Miller

St. John's man last seen in February 2013

CBC News Posted: Jun 09, 2014 8:03 AM NT| Last Updated: Jun 09, 2014 5:58 PM NT

The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary says its latest search over the weekend for a missing St. John's man turned up nothing.

Const. Steve Curnew said a ground search team with more than 40 people did not find the body of Joshua Miller, despite weekend efforts that were concentrated in the heavily wooded area of Larkhall Street to Mount Scio Road on Saturday.

"We regret to say nothing was found during that search," Curnew said.

Police said on Friday that it had received new information in the case of the missing man who has not been seen since Feb. 10, 2013. He was 20 years old when he went missing.

"In this instance, they re-investigated, or re-spoke to someone close to Josh, provided information saying that he frequents this... general area, from time to time," Curnew said.

"It wasn't something that was searched originally, but this new information lead us to the ground search."

The square-kilometre search was supposed to have lasted through the weekend, but Curnew said it was concluded in one day.

Curnew said the RNC will continue its search.

"It's very rare to have a disappearance such as this without a trace," he said.

"It's still an active investigation, and we're still pleading for information."

Curnew said a tip line has now been established, and anyone with any information about Miller's whereabouts is asked to call: 709-729-8800.

Last seen

Miller was last seen by his friends during a night downtown when they put him in a cab.

A cab driver then last had contact with Miller after he got out of the taxi on Blue Puttees Drive, in the Stavanger Drive area, in the east end of St. John's.

Miller was said to have been wearing just a T-shirt and pants at the time.

Previous search efforts near Stavanger Drive and on the Southern Shore over the last 16 months have not provided any credible information about what happened to Miller or where he may be.
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Very rare to have such a disappearance without a trace, the police said.
 
Well yes it is- especially when experienced cops say so.   Perhaps there isn't a trace of Josh, because some people saw to it that there would not be.  I strongly suspect foul play here, in my opinion. The cops are  being given the run around, and I think they know it.  But - they have to check out leads right? Someone knows what happened to this young man - and they are remaining very quiet in my books.

I don't  think Josh is in the city at all!!  I think that there are a group of people who know exactly what happened to Josh and where he is.

It is all smoke and mirrors in my opinion for a big cover up.


Just my feelings on reading all of this. Nothing is really adding up, it is full of confusion and slight of hand.

JB
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: capeheart on June 14, 2014, 01:17:50 PM
I still believe that the police should be actively checking the records of the cabbie. What was his next call and did he report to his dispatch that he had dropped JM off or that he ran out of the cab. Did he report that to the dispatcher??? And what was the next call, in relation to the time that he supposedly dropped JM off. Because if JM did not pay for the cab, maybe another altercation took place between the cabbie and JM.  A bit of unanswered questions in all of this. The fact that nothing was ever found in relation to JM.  Hopefully they will get new leads with the tip line and maybe offer a reward. Prayers to the family and friends of this young man. :o :o :o
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: jellybean on June 05, 2015, 06:20:10 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/joshua-miller-still-missing-2-years-later-friends-wonder-what-happened-1.2952050

Last Updated: Feb 10, 2015 7:44 PM NT

Chris Duke, a friend of Miller's, said he's been helping out in the search for his friend's whereabouts since he was reported missing, but nothing concrete has turned up.

"I can't even fathom the fact that two years later, we're still here, we're still stalemated at this point," said Duke.
■RNC say nothing found in latest search for Joshua Miller
■Joshua Miller search takes turn to Southern Shore

"Just the lack of pertinent information that has come along in the last two years and the lack of progression in the investigation — I mean, we're virtually at a standstill."

'Seems efforts have been futile'

According to Duke, his friend's disappearance still takes a toll most days.


'He had so much enthusiasm for life it was almost inspiring and his absence has such a profound effect on the people who loved and cared about him.'

- Chris Duke, friend of missing Joshua Miller

"It's been tumultuous, at best. From day to day, there's times when you can completely tune it out, you can go about your day as if it's normal routine. But then there's days when even the slightest trigger from a song or passing a location that can bring the situation right to the forefront of your thought pattern," he said.

Duke added that while he's tried to remain positive that something will eventually turn up, it's hard to keep spirits up.

"It seems like our efforts have been futile. I mean, you try to keep these feelings of optimism that eventually something will come forward that will lead in the right direction," said Duke.

"There's days where you're feeling sad and upset at the fact that this is happening … when it hits close to home, [it's a] complexity of the emotions that I don't wish upon either friend or foe."

Nothing left unturned

Duke said he and some other friends continue to look in areas that weren't officially searched by police, just in case they stumbled across something.
■6 months later, no trace of missing St. John's man
■Friends concerned for missing St. John's man

However, nothing's been discovered.

Harry Blackmore, with Rovers Search and Rescue, says he originally expected to find Joshua Miller within a couple of days, and it's unusual for someone to be missing this long in the specific area they were searching. (CBC)

Harry Blackmore, with Rovers Search and Rescue, said he figured crews would find Miller fairly easily, considering the region they were searching.

"We figured he might have got caught in a tree or something and broke his leg or whatever, but from the area we searched down there it's a massive, massive area and every bit of it was done like a fine-tooth comb, really, over two or three different times," said Blackmore.

"So where he could be gone is right now anybody's guess."

The main area searched is a fairly busy residential and retail area of the metro St. John's area, and Blackmore said for a missing person to go undiscovered for this long is unusual.

"We figured for sure that we would have him within a day or so, but with the amount of effort that went into it from the police — everything that we could have down there we had. We had the horse down there, a full mounted unit, dogs were down from the RNC, we had our own divers in the river, our own people down in suits," he said.

"Everything that we had we threw at it for a good amount of time, and for someone to go missing like that down there it is unusual. Where he could have went, nobody knows."

Won't forget Joshua

Meanwhile, Duke said despite the fact that the case doesn't appear to be moving forward despite the amount of effort put into it, he wants to make sure people don't forget his friend.
■Search for missing St. John's man continues

"We try not to let Josh's story fade out of the limelight — this was a guy who had so much to give the world. What he aspired to do, certainly in the last few months that he was around, he was well on his way to attempt to become accepted as a police officer because he wanted to help people — that was Josh by nature," said Duke.

"He had so much enthusiasm for life it was almost inspiring and his absence has such a profound effect on the people who loved and cared about him."

The RNC said there is still an active investigation into Miller's disappearance.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: kMiller on June 07, 2015, 10:58:28 AM
It is a 17 min drive (approx.) from the bar to his friends area. Reports are that he jumped into a cab at the Sundance Bar - and another report is that his friend placed Josh by himself into a cab at the Sundance Bar.

Which is true?  Placed and jumped can make a big difference in the condition of Josh at the time.

Reports say that Josh jumped out of the cab near Stavanger Drive. This is where his friend lived.

Perhaps in the telling, there is something screwy right there.

If Josh had to be placed in a cab by someone, that usually means that Josh was not in very good "shape" - and if he jumped out of the cab - then he was not too bad off at the end of the 17 minute drive. REALLY? 

Is the  "assisting friend" one and the same who lives on Stavanger Drive?

Or, was there a different friend who lived on Stavanger Drive?

Was it ever firmly established by the police that the cab story is true?? If a fare was picked up, was it really Josh who was the passenger? How could Josh jump out of a cab when injured and drunk?

That area was searched with a fine toothed comb.  I say that Josh was not there. I think that if such a passenger existed, then it was not JOSH. And the first statement that Josh was placed in a cab is NOT TRUE





You've made some very valid points here.  There are alot of inconsistentcies in the telling of Josh's story.
If Joshua was in such bad shape from a bar fight,  why didn't his "friends" escort him home? Or to the Stavanger drive area?
It is very likely he wasn't put into a cab. 
Foul play is looking like more of an option here. Stavanger Drive has been picked apart by not only the police force but his family and friends desperately seeking answers. If he was anywhere in that area, something would have been found. 

Also, why was the search taken from the Stavanger drive area to a remote area in Mobile NL?  Way to many unanswered questions.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: SAP on June 07, 2015, 12:09:24 PM
Has hypnosis been suggested for all the people who had been drinking together that night? Memory can really be impaired after an evening of drinking and often what they saw or think they saw happen isn't what happened at all. With a fight happening and time moving fast afterwards ...

Recently I heard of an exam done for a group of people going into investigative work. They were stone sober, and a 'villain' was brought into the room for a brief period and then taken out. The group then had to describe this villain. None of them saw the same thing and all did miserably.

I would suggest hypnosis and if anyone doesn't want to go through with it, I'd have to wonder why. 
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: kMiller on August 28, 2015, 05:36:30 AM
Any new updates from this case?

Can't seem to find anything. Also noticed the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary doesn't even have Joshua even listed as a missing person on their website.

How are the  the public supposed to help find this man when they are not being made aware that he is still missing?   ???

Hopefully new leads arise in this case soon.
Title: Re: Joshua MILLER - 20 - Missing - February 8, 2013 - St John's, Nfld
Post by: debbiec on August 28, 2015, 10:11:16 AM
I haven't been able to find any recent updates on this case either kMiller.

Taken from reply #36.
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Meanwhile, Duke said despite the fact that the case doesn't appear to be moving forward despite the amount of effort put into it, he wants to make sure people don't forget his friend.

"We try not to let Josh's story fade out of the limelight — this was a guy who had so much to give the world. What he aspired to do, certainly in the last few months that he was around, he was well on his way to attempt to become accepted as a police officer because he wanted to help people — that was Josh by nature," said Duke.

"He had so much enthusiasm for life it was almost inspiring and his absence has such a profound effect on the people who loved and cared about him."

The RNC said there is still an active investigation into Miller's disappearance.

Joshua is still missing.