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Title: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: ladyt on July 26, 2010, 06:01:27 PM
Ann Shirran was last seen after dark on Sunday evening, July 18, 2010, when she left her home on foot. Ann has limited funds, if any, and was carrying only a purse. Ann is about six feet tall with long reddish/brown curly hair . She has a one year old son who misses her terribly.

SHE IS WEARING BLACK PANTS, A WHITE SHIRT AND GLASSES....
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If you have info you can call Crime Stoppers (1800 222 tips) or the RNC (729 8000) which is 24 hour line. You can also try the RCMP, also 24 hours, 709 7267.
Fri. July 23- Helicopter and ground search began in Kilbride yesterday and the ground search continued today. K9 and Rover Search and Rescue ...a total of 75 people...Flyers will be handed out tomorrow (Sat) and posted anywhere and everywhere- telephone poles and businesses and so on. please contact "Sarah Reddy" about where and when or how to obtain flyers.
Please continue to share her picture and information.
Please phone numbers listed if you have ANY information.
729 8000- RNC 24 Hours
Crime Stoppers- 1 800 222 TIPS begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              1 800 222 TIPS      end_of_the_skype_highlighting
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran
Post by: Concerned on July 26, 2010, 11:34:05 PM
Ladyt, thank you for posting for Ann Mari who has such a beautiful smile.  I searched for more information that I thought may help the visitors to the thread and found a few more pieces of information they may feel is useful. It is always so helpful to know as much as possible. The visitors of this site have varied perspectives and can be extremely useful. Let us know if there is any other information that may help us search with you.  I'm very sorry to hear that she is missing. And, of course, let's try to get this mom home to her baby. I wish you much luck and offer prayers.

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Ground search suspended for missing woman

Last Updated: Monday, July 26, 2010 | 9:52 AM NT Comments4Recommend40

CBC News

A ground search has been suspended for a St. John's woman who has not been seen for more than a week.

The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary says it is still investigating the disappearance of Ann Marie Shirran, who left her home on July 18 for a walk.

Volunteers and police had been searching trails, a wooded area and a pond near her home in the Kilbride area of St. John's. The search had extended to the Bowring Park area.

In appealing for public help in the case this weekend, the RNC disclosed that some residents might know Shirran better as Ann Marie Baggs, the name she had until about six years ago.

Shirran is described as being about six feet tall, weighing about 170 pounds and having brown-auburn hair.

She was last seen wearing black capri pants, a white sleeveless top and flip-flops.

The RNC has pleaded with anyone with information about the case to contact authorities immediately.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/07/26/shirran-missing-search.html
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran
Post by: Chris on July 27, 2010, 01:05:05 AM
Wow I hope she is found soon. Is there any reason to believe someone might have caused her harm?
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran
Post by: Woodland on July 27, 2010, 04:59:00 AM
I wonder who Ann left her son with, after 9:00/9:30 pm that night?  Did anyone else see her that weekend?
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran July 18, 2010
Post by: capeheart on July 27, 2010, 07:57:34 PM
If Ann left home at 9 or 9:30 and she only took her purse, she was possibly meeting someone. She is a very attractive woman. I have no idea about the area, was it well populated or was it rural. She possibly would not be walking in a wooded area in the evening. As another poster stated, was she seen after she left home??? Is there a male friend that she could have been meeting? Did she have an abusive ex or a current boyfriend who was abusive?? I guess the police would know most of this information. I surely hope that Ann Marie is found safe and she comes home to her son very soon. ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010
Post by: ladyt on July 28, 2010, 06:53:47 AM
I believe she lived with her boyfriend and son and I assume that is where the boy was when she went for a walk. The area is just near the city...a small suburb-type area. There have not been any details about where she was going, etc. But I think they're suggesting she was simply going for a walk (safe to do in the area). It seems she has literally vanished without a trace. I am new to this board but would like to use it to the best ability. Did I see a post or something about psychic predictions??
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010
Post by: ladyt on July 28, 2010, 06:57:25 AM
Also, here's the link to the Facebook group:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6900285&id=680395785#!/?ref=home
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010
Post by: ladyt on July 30, 2010, 09:25:19 AM
Rovers Conduct Another Search for Missing Woman
     
 http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?mn=2&id=7850&popular=1
July 29, 2010
There is still no sign of missing Kilbride woman Ann Marie Shirran. A spokesperson with the Rovers Ground Search and Rescue Team says about 40 volunteers searched from Bowring Park down to the harbour Thursday. They also went back to the Petty Harbour and Long Pond area again. The Rovers were out from late afternoon until nightfall. RNC Sergeant Jason Sheppard says they did not receive any specific information to lead them back to the region, but says the search was a follow up to last week's effort.

 
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010
Post by: capeheart on July 30, 2010, 03:25:51 PM
Does anyone think that Ann could have left willingly to leave St. John's??? Was her relationship an abusive one??? And was Ann known to be depressed over anything or suicidal? Those are questions the police may know and we don't. I don't think she was thinking of suicide, because why would she take her purse? I sure hope that nothing has happened to Ann. Do the police suspect any foul play in her disappearance??? Prayers for Ann to return home to her son. This is a long time for her to be missing. If she left with someone on her own free will, hopefully she will call home and say she is okay. Do any of her friends know if she was troubled or was afraid of her companion or anyone else??? So many questions to be answered in the missing lady. My prayers continue for Ann's return. ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010
Post by: Woodland on July 30, 2010, 05:39:02 PM
The purse sticks out in my mind with what little has been reported here so far.

If she was going for a walk, as in exercising, relaxing or whatever, it seems odd to take a purse - it hinders that purpose.  Maybe that was her habit though.

If she had a destination in mind, then it would make sense.

I wonder what was in it - all her ID, bank cards, house keys, cell phone etc?  Or did she leave any of these things behind?

Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010
Post by: capeheart on July 30, 2010, 08:20:04 PM
Woodland, those are my thoughts also. When I am going for a walk, I usually take my keys in my pocket and I may put my change purse in with a couple of dollars in case I want something. But when going for a walk, I never take my purse. But who witnessed Ann, after she left the family dwelling??? Did anyone see her after she supposedly went for this walk? Who is the person that said she went for a walk? And when did this person report her missing, how many hours after? Maybe that was posted, I don't know. ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010
Post by: Woodland on July 31, 2010, 02:48:06 PM
Cape - another question that comes to mind along with your thinking is, when was the last time she was seen before she went for this walk.
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010
Post by: ladyt on July 31, 2010, 03:08:35 PM
There are so many questions that would be nice to be answered. I'm also wondering why she wasn't reported missing until Monday but she went missing on Sunday night. I would report it that night if my spouse didn't return home from a walk.
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010
Post by: Woodland on July 31, 2010, 04:37:27 PM
ladyt - let's hope LE is all over this while info from those around her and close to her is available.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 01, 2010, 04:20:06 PM
If the spouse did not report it until the next day, this is very suspicious. What are the timelines on all of this??? There would be time to commit a crime and destory evidence in all of that time. If Ann had just went for a walk, this is certainly out of the ordinary that the spouse would not have asked for help in looking for her long before the next day. This all does not add up to me. It doesn't sound normal for this kind of thing. Think of it, if you have someone in your home that just went for a walk and obviously they are usually going to say, I'll be gone for a half an hour or whatever. Well when time goes by out of the ordinary you would call a couple of close friends and if they didn't hear from them or they weren't there, the next call would be the police. And if they could not do anything until the next day, get a babysitter and get some friends and go looking for the spouse. :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: lostlinganer on August 01, 2010, 04:33:58 PM
sometimes when couples have a disagreement, one will be so mad, they'll say "I'm going for a walk".  ....and usually take their personal things, like purse and phone.... most people even take their phone in the laundy room with them nowadays ....

If they were having "words", I could see her do this and not bother coming back .... and him not bother looking for her.  .... that's if she went for a walk during a heated disagreement; especially is they get angry with each other, or have disagreements all the time???

Other than that, nothing is normal about your partner leaving for a walk and "disappearing" out of the blue!   .... and you not getting worried about their well being for all that time.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: lostlinganer on August 01, 2010, 04:49:19 PM
that's the bottom line Chet.... a person "of age" is not considered legally missing before the 24-hr mark.  ...and that's too bad; because the trail of a would-be killer, or if there's an abductor, could have been pretty cold and contaminated by that time.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 01, 2010, 05:53:26 PM
Chet, I did think of that, the 24 hour deal about an adult gone missing. But if this person was not in the habit of staying out, surely we do not know what the spouse did in the hours before it was officially reported. It would be helpful to know what his actions were, but I guess we won't know that unless someone from the area can tell us some information.  :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: jellybean on August 08, 2010, 03:51:07 PM
Capehart has asked all of the questions that I would ask.  But, remember it was stated that she had limited funds. This is often the case of an abused woman (am I jumping to conclusions re: abuse?) ..perhaps. She could not travel very far on limited funds.  Also wearing flip flops, can't walk too far in those.  Seen leaving after dark. No mention of time. Who would go for a walk in the dark with  no funds, and not even wearing a sweater.  or decent shoes.  Doesn't look good for the boyfriend. Who said that they saw her leave? Did a neighbour see her leave - or was it the boyfriend? I think the police suspect foul play but are not saying anything.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 09, 2010, 04:40:20 PM
Jellybean, all questions I had asked earlier. It was many hours after she went missing that the boyfriend reported her missing. I hope the police have gone into the home with a search warrant and looked for some evidence. The laws have to be changed regarding a missing spouse. The police should have the right to go in with a search warrant if a person is missing. If the police had asked for permission to search the home, they should have gone in there and went through it with a fine tooth comb. Then they could rule the companion out. But unless they have looked into the home for clues, they are wasting time on this case. What will they do, wait until three years from now and say, oh, the boyfriend is the one, the companion, but we cannot prove it. Hooey on this crap, they have to start going in at the getgo and get to the bottom of it. If the boyfriend has nothing to hide, well so be it. But it looks like the light is shining brightly on her companion. She wasn't reported missing for many hours. He apparently is the only one who saw her leave and that is the story, very convenient. I makes me sick when there is lack of investigation in the early part of these cases. Sorry for going into a rant, but it just seems we hear the same story so many times.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: jellybean on August 09, 2010, 06:32:45 PM
Yes, you asked all of the questions that I would have asked. Regardless, the police have to wait 24 hours, and sad to say in many cases, they wait three days before they will even consider putting out a missing persons report.  I would not be surprised if he is already under the radar, and since they are checking bodies of water, etc., they are probably looking for someone who is deceased.  The statement that Anne Marie had very little money was given in such a way to infer that she never had much money generally.  I don't believe she left the house on her own. That being said, we must still hope and pray that she returns home safely, and that we are 100% wrong.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: jellybean on August 09, 2010, 07:30:29 PM
I googled kilbride newfound news and got the cbc.ca and this is the article that I found there.  It is worth reading, as there are many comments from people, that follows, which may be helpful. To access the comments, go thru google.
A search for a missing St. John's woman widened on Friday to include a city park and waterways near her residence.

Ann Marie Shirran, 32, was last seen at Brennan Field, near her home in the Kilbride area of the Newfoundland and Labrador capital.
Ann Marie Shirran has not been seen since last Sunday. Ann Marie Shirran has not been seen since last Sunday. (Royal Newfoundland Constabulary)

Volunteer searchers continued to look through nearby fields and trails, as well as an area in Bowring Park.

A helicopter that had participated in the search on Thursday was not able to fly on Friday because of foggy weather. The chopper had surveyed the Densmore's Lane area of the neighbourhood from the air.

The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary opened a missing-person file on Shirran on Wednesday.

"We are right now concerned about her well-being, and we would like to obtain any information in regards to her whereabouts to confirm her well-being," Const. Suzanne FitzGerald said Thursday.

Friends said Shirran lived with her boyfriend and her one-year-old son, and said that her child had not been out of her sight since he was born. They say she left the house for a walk on Sunday morning, but never returned.

Volunteer searchers were expected to return to trails and woods in the area Friday.

Police describe her as being six feet tall with brown-auburn shoulder-length hair. She was wearing black capri pants, a white sleeveless top and flip-flops.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/07/23/missing-woman-kilbride-stjohns-723.html#socialcomments#ixzz0wA79sIRv
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: justice on August 09, 2010, 08:36:59 PM
You know, I have been thinking about this for awhile now, how many missing people start off with being being reported missing and having to wait 24 hours for police action, now I am not blaming police I am blaming policy.  What is that saying a stitch in time saves nine.  I realize that this would increase policing man hours, but how many lives would it save or at the very least how many would it solve.  Everyone knows how important the early hours of a crime are.  Something needs to be done.  Especially with all the increase of abduction, murders, etc.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: jellybean on August 09, 2010, 09:30:07 PM
I believe that under certain circumstances,a search should be underway quickly. We have Amber Alert, which also should be changed, but we do not have anything for adults. I think tho, all too often, a partner will leave for a few days, and return home. Now if this policy applied to all who went missing, we would constantly have the police on the go, and search teams kept busy all of the time.  But common sense should prevail, and this is not always the case. Often it is too late and too late.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 10, 2010, 02:44:28 PM
If a person goes for a walk and are expected back within a certain period of time, especially at night time, considerations should be given if they are reported missing. Once family members and friends are called and the hospital, to see if the person has been hurt or dropped in to see a relative, then a search should begin. What would it cost for just a local group of friends and neighbours and a couple of police to see what may have happened to someone, especially a woman. I also do not know why this woman would go for a walk at 10:00 p.m. In my neighbourhood, I would go with a friend for a short walk, but not alone and I live in a pretty safe place. Now in C.B. we have coyote problems and they aren't getting any better. So people who would go out in the country in the evening would certainly be cautious. We were just told yesterday that there are 8000 coyotes on Cape Breton Island, that is a lot. And attacks have been reported. Just this week a young woman was attacked while sleeping, at a campground in Northern Cape Breton. So in Newfoundland, I don't know if they have any such predators as we do here. Hopefully soon, they will have something about Ann. If she has left of her own free will and left the island, I do hope she is safe. My thoughts are, is her companion the father of her baby???? :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: jellybean on August 10, 2010, 03:22:48 PM
In the last article from cbc.ca, it stated that she left the house Sunday morning for a walk.
Honestly, the reporting stinks.  Which is it? Evening, or morning. In the comment section of this article, a woman wrote that she would see her with her child at the park, and that she never left his side.  So, i can't imagine her leaving him behind, should she have decided to leave the relationship.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 10, 2010, 04:08:27 PM
Jellybean, that could be a possibility. And if she was afraid of her companion, that is exactly what she should have done, disappear. Now he may have told her he would never allow her to take the baby away and that is why she left. If she was afraid he might hurt the child, I do not think she would have left the baby there. However, when one lives in a small community usually they know if the boyfriend is abusive. I had noted I thought that Ann went for the walk in the evening, I believe that is what was posted. I do hope she is safe. But when a spouse is the last known one to see the person, that is suspicious. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: ladyt on August 10, 2010, 06:26:06 PM
I believe she said she was going out and left around 9 or so in the evening (reporting does suck).
Taken from the Facebook group:
"She was not meeting with any one. She just said she was going out for a bit. We have no idea where she intended to go or if there was an intended destination."
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=141568745869039&topic=127#!/topic.php?uid=141568745869039&topic=127

I've edited this post because I feel that it may spread rumours or perhaps upset family/friends. I didn't realize there were so many people viewing this forum.

I find it odd that she left on Sunday night to go out for a little while and didn't return but it wasn't reported until Monday. What's even more shocking is that the police didn't do anything about it until Wednesday!!! That's crazy! Is it normal for them to wait 48 hours???
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: jellybean on August 10, 2010, 08:12:02 PM
Ladyt.  Thank you so much for giving us this link on Facebook. Yes, its funny abut rumours.  The way that they can build up and alter perceptions about someone.  Never to the advantage of the person, I might add.  However, she certainly has a lot of friends who care about her, and are frantic with worry.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: Rick1 on August 12, 2010, 12:21:13 PM
You people have no idea. Stop the speculation. You don't know Ann Marie and the rumors aren't helping the family. Let the investigators do their work. >:( >:(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: Woodland on August 12, 2010, 03:48:35 PM
Rick1 - I hope investigators do their job to the utmost ability, including looking at all possibilities for this missing mother, not to mention her other relationships.

Are you a blood relative of Ann, or her baby's father?
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 12, 2010, 05:22:37 PM
Rick1, we want to find Ann Marie. We are not judging anybody, we are just wondering why she has not been found yet. We are running into a long time period here with no answers. And if you know anything Rick1, you give us a heads up. We do not know anything about her relationship and nobody has told anything related to that. We are trying to find out just who did see Ann Marie last, besides her companion. Now that is not asking a heck of a lot of questions. WHO SAW ANN MARIE AFTER SHE LEFT HOME IN THE EVENING??????  :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: jellybean on August 13, 2010, 10:53:32 AM
Canadeast,com

Police resume search for St. John's woman missing since last month
Published Friday August 13th, 2010


ST. JOHN'S, N.L. - The search for a missing Newfoundland and Labrador woman has moved to the Blackhead area of St. John's.

Ann Marie Shirran was first reported missing July 18.

Following searches around her home in Kilbride, the Goulds and Petty Harbour, the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary has brought in a special dog team from the Ontario Provincial Police to assist efforts.

Police spokeswoman Const. Suzanne FitzGerald says they're also using the help of the Rover's ground search and rescue team, the RNC's Marine Unit and the force's mounted unit.

FitzGerald says the dogs have been in the area for a few days and will remain there for several more days.

She says police still haven't ruled out the possibility of foul play. (VOCM)


Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: Chris on August 13, 2010, 11:45:09 AM
hi Rick, we don't have any idea, all we can do is speculate. But at least we are paying attention. Do you have any facts? thanks.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: ladyt on August 13, 2010, 01:15:27 PM
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2010-08-12/article-1671816/Shirran-search-resumed-in-Blackhead/1
Shirran search resumed in Blackhead
Members of the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary are combing the Blackhead Road area of St. John’s in their search for Ann Marie Shirran.

Topics : Blackhead , Kilbride.Const , Ontario
The 32-year-old has been missing since July 18, when she was last seen at her home in Kilbride.

Const. Suzanne FitzGerald told The Telegram the RNC’s mounted unit is also on the scene.

“The officers are able to get a higher and better view than those in the ground search.”

Cadaver dogs have been flown in from Ontario and are being used in the search.

“These are specialized dogs, trained to detect decomposition of human remains," FitzGerald said.

The RNC’s marine unit is scouring the waters off the coast near Fort Amherst and Cape Spear and along the shoreline.

FitzGerald said the search wasn’t prompted by a tip or additional information they received.

“We have searched a number of difference areas and we have expanded our search,” she said.

“This is just where the investigation has led us.”
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: ladyt on August 13, 2010, 01:26:32 PM
"Missing N.L. woman may be crime victim: RNC"


Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/08/13/nl-shirran-search-813.html#socialcomments#ixzz0wW2G1icT


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/08/13/nl-shirran-search-813.html#socialcomments

Interesting comments below story and I find it interesting that the RNC are not finally saying she may be a crime victim (took a month to release that information!).
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: jellybean on August 13, 2010, 05:58:56 PM
Lady T
Thank you for sharing these articles with us.

How far away is Blackhead from her home in St. John's? I am not familiar with NFLD. I have a strong feeling that she will be found close to home. If she left in the evening, not wearing a jacket, and a good pair of shoes, I can't see any woman walking very far dressed like that.
Nor, do I feel that a woman would hitchhike at night. (hitchhiking would be the best way to go a distance, if one wasn't driving.) On the facebook, one can see that she is loved and has many wonderful friends, therefore, I sense that if she was "troubled" in anyway she would have confided in one of them. It is a mystery, and hopefully for the sake of  her family, (her husband and child) she will found safe and well.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 13, 2010, 06:19:28 PM
LadyT, thank you for the updated news on Ann Marie. I did feel at the beginning that she may be a victim of foul play. Of course, the police cannot tell us all of their information when they are investigating a case. If someone transported Ann Marie to another place, she could be almost anywhere in the area. But police must have some information that they are looking in another area. Sure hope that the find Ann Marie, wherever she may be. And thoughts to her family and friends for her to be found. And bless the little child that is now missing his mom. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: ladyt on August 13, 2010, 07:53:46 PM
Lady T
Thank you for sharing these articles with us.

How far away is Blackhead from her home in St. John's?

On the facebook, one can see that she is loved and has many wonderful friends, therefore, I sense that if she was "troubled" in anyway she would have confided in one of them.

I believe Blackhead is about 20-30 minutes away from Kilbride and the area is rocky coastline and the final destination on the road is Cape Spear National Park. The area is also vast forest.
I think her family probably did know of her troubles but obviously they aren't going to tell the public (and why would they), nor would the police release that info. But to be troubled or have a history of problems doesn't warrent having something bad happen to you. I'm sure there are many people out there that have problems and they don't get kidnapped, even if it were, for example, drug troubles. I'm sure the family have told the police all there is to know of her problems, if any. I would think her boyfriend would have the most knowledge and would tell them of anything unless he'd keep it to himself for legal reasons(?).
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 14, 2010, 01:43:02 PM
Thanks for that update, it gives us more of an insight into Ann Marie's disappearance. Hoping for the best for all concerned in Ann Marie's disappearance. :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: jellybean on August 15, 2010, 10:10:23 AM
Lady T.  Do you know what type of work her husband did? Do you know if she frequented Tim Horton's at the bottom of the hill, or any other place in town, that is, when she could leave her son in the care of her husband for awhile, so that she would have time to herself?
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: ladyt on August 15, 2010, 04:28:30 PM
No, I don't know the answers to any of these questions, unfortunately.
I'm not sure if anyone is keeping up with the Facebook page but this was posted by her boyfriend yesterday:
"Fingers point. Thoughts shift. Hearts break even more. If YOU are out there, reading this. Your damage has been done. Please give her up. For this boy."
Obviously, there is information that we just don't know about and there must be a lead that the police are following. Today, according to Facebook, they're trying to organize a search by friends, family, and whomever else wants to help. It's so sad. This little baby boy will probably never see his mother again :(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: Concerned on August 20, 2010, 05:07:43 AM
I always hate to post this kind of thing because of the realization that someone may be throwing a wrench in the search...but then again, fresh eyes in both areas may not be a bad thing.  With 2-3 woman missing within 1-2 months in the same area, it is probably good to post all possible relevent info. So, here goes:

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Missing person Ann Marie Shirran may have been spotted west coast of Newfoundland
WEDNESDAY, 28 JULY 2010 22:50 WRITTEN BY LEN HUMES
The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary is providing an update regarding the missing persons investigation into the whereabouts of Ann Marie Shirran, previously known as "Ann Marie Baggs".

The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary has received information from the public that someone matching Shirran's description has allegedly been spotted on the West coast of Newfoundland. RNC officers throughout the province are continuing to search for Shirran, who has been missing from her residence on Brennan Field in Kilbride since July 18th 2010. Shirran is approximately 6' 0" tall, 170 lbs with shoulder length brown/auburn hair and blue eyes.

The RNC Major Crime Unit are following up on all information that has been provided thus far and are continuing to appeal to the public, not only in this province but across Canada. Their investigation continues in the attempts to ensure her safety and well-being.
http://www.oyetimes.com/news/101-canada/4940-missing-person-ann-marie-shirran-may-have-been-spotted-west-coast-of-newfoundland
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: Concerned on August 20, 2010, 05:10:32 AM
They held a vigil for Ann Marie on August 4, 2010:

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Vigil held for missing St. John's woman
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 4, 2010 | 7:48 AM NT
A quiet vigil was held Tuesday night in western Newfoundland for a woman who vanished from her home in St. John's more than two weeks ago.

Ann Marie Shirran, 32, was last seen July 18 at her home in the Kilbride area of St. John's. A subsequent ground search found no clues to indicate her whereabouts.

More than 100 friends, family and supporters gathered on the Majestic lawn in Corner Brook on Tuesday night to keep Shirran in their thoughts and prayers. Shirran, formerly known as Ann Marie Baggs, had lived in nearby Steady Brook.

Krista Brake, one of the organizers, said candlelight is an important symbol for friends to share as they await Shirran's return.

"Back in the old days they would light a candle and put it in the window for someone to come home and I think that's probably... it's just the comfort of it," Brake told CBC News.

"Everyone standing together, lighting the candles in the hopes that wherever she is, she'll come home."

Claire White, who grew up with Shirran, said the disappearance of an old friend has really hit hard.

"It's hard to think about, that something like this could happen, that somebody could just go for a walk and then nobody hear from them again," she said.

"It's hard to think we could have no idea what happened."

The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary has issued several calls for public help in locating Shirran, and posters with her photo have been distributed across St. John's and have appeared in the Corner Brook area.

Police have described Shirran as being about six feet tall, weighing about 170 pounds and having brown-auburn hair. She was last seen wearing black capri pants, a white sleeveless top and flip-flops.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/08/04/ann-marie-shirran-vigil-804.html
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: Concerned on August 20, 2010, 05:16:48 AM
Interesting comment "An RNC officer said last week that foul play has not been ruled out."

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Search continues for missing St. John's woman

Last Updated: Monday, August 16, 2010 | 8:19 AM N

Police continued to search near St. John's Sunday for a local woman who went missing in mid-July.

Royal Newfoundland Constabulary officers began looking for evidence of Ann Marie Shirran in the Blackhead area, between Cape Spear and Shea Heights late last week.

Shirran, 32, from the Kilbride area of the city was reported missing July 18.

Police won't say what led their investigation to the Blackhead area.

An RNC officer said last week that foul play has not been ruled out.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/08/16/nl-shirran-search-816.html

Also found this information:

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Missing N.L. woman may be crime victim: RNC
Fri Aug 13, 1:18 PM
ST..JOHNS (CBC) - Police say they haven't ruled out foul play in the case of a St. John's woman who has been missing since July.

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Ann Marie Shirran, 32, from the city's Kilbride area, was reported missing on July 18.

On Thursday, police searched the Blackhead area, between Shea Heights and Cape Spear, near St. John's.

Police used boats to search the ocean off Blackhead and cadaver dogs borrowed from the Ontario Provincial Police were used to search the woods and trails in the area until about 9 p.m.

The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary said it could not divulge details of an ongoing investigation but added that the force's investigation led them to the Blackhead area.

"We are [in the Blackhead area] for a specific reason," said Const. Suzanne FitzGerald.

A ground search was launched in wooded areas and ponds near Shirran's home, as well as the Bowring Park area in the days after she was last seen.

The RNC had said it received a tip that Shirran, who formerly lived in Steady Brook and had been known as Ann Baggs, was seen on Newfoundland's west coast. But police said they were unable to confirm that she was recently seen there.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/100813/canada/canada_newfoundland_nl_shirran_search813

Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: Concerned on August 20, 2010, 05:18:08 AM
Interesting comment by a post in the comment section of the article:


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Offshore1997:  Did anyone elses hair stand up on the end of their neck when they showed where they were searching?
Pretty much same spot as the Dana Bradley crime scene.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/08/16/nl-shirran-search-816.html
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: lostlinganer on August 20, 2010, 04:41:32 PM
indeed concerned..... creepy.... and I'll bet Shelly Stokes would have serious vibes on this!
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 20, 2010, 09:24:14 PM
I've been to Newfoundland about four times and it is a very rocky rugged coast. And the place they are looking for Ann, surely she would not be walking in that area. The aspect of foul play is definitely in the minds of the police. It would be a miracle if they find Ann Marie in that area. Hoping they can get to the bottom of this case and quickly. :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: ladyt on August 23, 2010, 05:44:31 AM
It's not looking good for Ann :(
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/08/23/missing-student-found-rnc-8.html

These types of searches must be making the family sick with worry. It doesn't give much hope for a positive outcome.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: jellybean on August 23, 2010, 11:08:12 AM
LadyT:  In reading the comments by readers at the bottom of this article, one reader states that he heard a rumour that  the child is held is in protective custody, and is not with family members.  Why would this be?  Must have been a tip from someone who is "really in the know" about what is going on in that area of Nfld
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/08/23/shirran-search-woods-rnc-823.html#socialcomments
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: ladyt on August 23, 2010, 11:20:55 AM
I know, I've just read the comment about the child being in protective custody. What does this mean? Obviously, there is a reason the boyfriend is out but what about the rest of her family. Why can't they look after him? Poor kid...he must be so confused.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 23, 2010, 05:38:11 PM
If the child is in protective custody, then there must be a POI or her companion is not the father of the child. Also, they sort of have to take the child in protective custody because of what happened in the Doctor's case in Newfoundland. She took her baby and walked in the water and drowned her and the baby when she was let out on bail. The court system failed that child. I would say the police are not taking any chances with this child. They have to make sure the baby is safe. I am really glad that the police have followed the procedures they have. This is definitely the right road to take with the child.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: jellybean on August 24, 2010, 05:25:54 PM
 If  Ann Marie was out and about, and walking away from her usual neighborhood, I wonder why she wasn't spotted? A 6 ft woman, has a commanding presence.  Quite the mystery
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 24, 2010, 06:15:03 PM
Jellybean, exactly. I had stated in the first stages of the news she was missing, who saw her after she left home. It doesn't look like anybody saw her except her male companion. There is a lot going on behind the scenes, I think. Hopefully we will know what happened to Ann Marie. Her family certainly must be upset by her disappearance. She is now missing over a month. :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Missing from St. John's: Ann Marie Shirran
Post by: MamaMeanie on August 29, 2010, 09:53:48 PM
 Missing woman may have been spotted on west coast: RNC Submitted
Ann Marie Shirran, formerly known as Ann Marie Baggs, has been missing since July 18.
Published on July 27th, 2010

http://www.thewesternstar.com/News/Local/2010-07-27/article-1609788/Missing-woman-may-have-been-spotted-on-west-coast:-RNC/1
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: MamaMeanie on August 29, 2010, 09:55:36 PM
If the child is in protective custody, then there must be a POI or her companion is not the father of the child. Also, they sort of have to take the child in protective custody because of what happened in the Doctor's case in Newfoundland. She took her baby and walked in the water and drowned her and the baby when she was let out on bail. The court system failed that child. I would say the police are not taking any chances with this child. They have to make sure the baby is safe. I am really glad that the police have followed the procedures they have. This is definitely the right road to take with the child.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I watched the documentary, and followed a lot of news articles on this case, and THIS (Anne Marie) case has nothing in common with that case at all. The mother is missing, and is just a missing person's case, she isn't a risk to her child at all.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 30, 2010, 04:36:01 PM
I am not saying she is a risk to the child, I am saying it is a possibility that the person she lives with is a risk to the child. They cannot leave a child in the care of someone that the police may think has something to do with Ann Marie's disappearance. I am not saying Ann Marie would do any harm to her child. She is the victim in this case or a person who is in trouble. Maybe I wasn't clear in what I was saying. The important thing is, the child is safe and now we hope Ann Marie is safe somewhere.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: lostlinganer on August 31, 2010, 12:05:07 AM
That is pretty clear to me cape.  A precedent was set here.  Now the child is to be protected first off.  Then try to find Ann Marie.  God only knows what danger she could have been in.  I pray she is hidden somewhere and making sure she's safe.

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Also, they sort of have to take the child in protective custody because of what happened in the Doctor's case in Newfoundland. She took her baby and walked in the water and drowned her and the baby when she was let out on bail. The court system failed that child. I would say the police are not taking any chances with this child. They have to make sure the baby is safe.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: capeheart on August 31, 2010, 11:20:24 AM
A long time and still no word about Ann Marie. Lost, did you get my PM, about another case?
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: lostlinganer on August 31, 2010, 03:04:00 PM
no Cape, you must have "lost" it... pardon the pun.  However, I wonder if I may have unwitingly replyed even though I didn't receive it.  lol .... if you check out my posts today. ;)
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran, July 18, 2010 - Missing from St. John's:
Post by: Concerned on September 05, 2010, 10:34:43 PM
Sadly, the remains found in campgrounds last week near Cappahayden have been identified as Ann Marie. Foul play is suspected.

Special thoughts and prayers to her family, friends, and especially her little child.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20100905/newfoundland-body-100905/
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: Chris on September 05, 2010, 10:36:54 PM
I am glad the family at least knows what happened now. Hop they can solve one quckly now!
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: amIam on September 06, 2010, 11:00:59 AM
Newfoundland police have arrested a 39 yr old man regarding Anne Marie's murder.

http://www.canadaeast.com/front/article/1205919
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: amIam on September 06, 2010, 11:06:01 AM
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2010-09-06/article-1728270/UPDATE%3A-39-year-old-arrested-for-Shirran-murder/1
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: ladyt on September 06, 2010, 12:29:31 PM
The man that has been arrested is her boyfriend, Dave Folker.
So sad.
A child has to grow up without his mother because of this lunatic that supposedly loved her.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: amIam on September 06, 2010, 02:06:05 PM
ladyt, is this boyfriend, the father of the child or does anne marie have any family to take care of the child?  I read the child was placed in protective custody.  I am wondering if LE were aware all along that this fellow was responsible for her disappearance but we unable to connect the dots until Anne Marie's remains were discovered and LE were in fear for the child's safety. Whatever the case, as you say this dear little one has to grow up without a mother.  So sad for all involved.  And so very senseless..another case of violence against women.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: notatowniegirl on September 06, 2010, 04:10:18 PM
From what I've read, he is the little guy's father. He's got such a hard childhood ahead of him :(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: capeheart on September 06, 2010, 04:12:01 PM
I just found out today that Ann Marie is deceased, this is so very sad but I can't say it was not expected. I felt that the story was not true from the first, that Ann Marie just walked away and never came home of her own free will. God bless the little child that she left behind and her family and friends that have to go through such a terrible ordeal. From the very first I felt that it was her boyfriend who was responsible. God bless those left behind to deal with this horrible tragedy. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: ladyt on September 06, 2010, 04:30:54 PM
Why do such senseless acts have to happen? This poor boy left motherless by his father. How can someone be so heartless? I bet he "planted" the rumours all along trying to throw police off but obviously they knew it was him and just needed the body. So sad.  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: capeheart on September 06, 2010, 04:58:18 PM
LadyT, I just wish those young women with abusive men in their lives would learn from so much violence against women that is reported daily. Women in abusive relationships should just get out now. Leave and don't look back. Move if you have to and stay with a family member. Every day we read about such things in the news. So heartless for a man to take the life of a child's mother. The lives that are ruined by a senseless act of violence. It is hard to believe that anyone can act in such a manner. RIP Ann Marie. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: Concerned on September 06, 2010, 05:02:03 PM
Does anyone know if this child has a warm, loving family member that will take care of him?  Not only did the perp take this mother's life, but her child is changed forever. Where did we get in society that harming another person is even a thought much less carried out? How do we get values and respect back?
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: Maureen on September 06, 2010, 05:14:52 PM
RIP Anne Marie and I hope justice will be served. My thoughts and prayers are with her and her little boy.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: Concerned on September 07, 2010, 09:58:21 PM
David Folker, 39, officially charged with second-degree murder and performing an indignity to a human body. He will remain in custody without a bail hearing. Next court date is September 28, 2010.

A poster said, Ann Marie Shirran was a good friend, and had an amazing singing voice. Her family and friends crowded the court house yesterday.

http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2010-09-07/article-1730214/David-Folker-charged-with-the-murder-of-Ann-Marie-Shirran/1
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: lostlinganer on September 08, 2010, 11:17:19 PM
There were two deaths in the past week or so, that are extremely disturbing to me and others. There are also many similar, and there will be more;  yet when they are only days apart, the impact seems to be that much harder .... that much more painful to deal with!  :'(

The following is a post I wrote about Sonia Varaschin a few minutes ago.  While writing, the beautiful face of Ann Marie Shirran is also flashing before my mind.  I know while I am writing about one, I am picturing and hurting for the other, as well.   And in the same way, I am reliving the many dozens of posts I've written similar over the past few years.  I still hurt for all those missing and murdered during that period too - the feeling doesn't seem to go away.  Even those I have only learned about on this forum, but never was involved in commenting on, over the years before I joined the site, I've come to know and mourn for in my heart.  This is something we just can't help as each individual's thread grows, and we learn from others, the traits, the stories, the memories of each person.  We become subconsciously attached like family ... hearts ache for the loved ones of the individual as much as for the lost soul.

 
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I know this is all so very extremely heart wrenching.  I wish there was a way we could let Sonia's family and loved ones, and people in Orangeville, know just how deeply so many in this country are sharing the shock, dismay, and nothing short of anger,  at this horrible fate brought on  this beautiful caring and useful woman - at the hands of someone else...someone so useless and uncaring that they don't deserve to be breathing the air we share.   No matter how much it happens, it doesn't make it any less hard to bear when it happens yet again and again.   

Dear God; there's got to be a way to stop this kind of behavior.  All too often, this involves what are supposed to be adults, not animals.  What way are people being bred in this day and age, for so many to turn out so brutal and uncaring for the life of another, and the effects of such an unnecessary and horrible crime on the rest of society as well?  I'm sure if a mother knew she was going to raise such an animal, she would never be able to face his birth. 
Words cannot explain the thoughts that go through the minds of so many of us, both posting and reading on this board.  It's as though all we can do is keep preaching, keep spreading the word, keep striving to teach our children the paradox of the principal:  We must not kill!  We must not injure or deliberately hurt our fellow man; yet we must beware to protect ourselves and our children and loved ones from the increasing incidents of human animals among us.... those with no soul and apparently not even the brains they were born with.  My sympathy and love is extended to Sonia's loved ones who mourn her today.

I do hope her family find peace and at least some small degree of comfort,  in the fact that our love goes out to them.... and our tears are shed for their beautiful Sonia .... lost before her time.

RIP Ann Marie - God bless and keep your loved ones. :'(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: Concerned on September 09, 2010, 04:48:23 AM
Very well said, Lost. Heartfelt, and so very true.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: ladyt on September 09, 2010, 05:17:21 AM
Murder suspect has N.S. record: documents
Last Updated: Wednesday, September 8, 2010 | 3:38 PM NT Comments24Recommend36
CBC News
David Folker, 39, has been charged with second-degree murder in the death of his girlfriend, Ann Marie Shirran.David Folker, 39, has been charged with second-degree murder in the death of his girlfriend, Ann Marie Shirran. (CBC)

A man accused of murdering his girlfriend in St. John's went to prison for criminal negligence causing death in Nova Scotia, court records show.

David MacBurnie Folker, 39, was charged in provincial court in St. John's Tuesday with second-degree murder in the death of Ann Marie Shirran.

Shirran's decomposed remains were discovered by campers last week about 100 kilometres south of the home she shared in St. John's with Folker, who reported her missing in July. The couple had a one-year-old son, who was placed in protective custody earlier this summer, police said.

Court records in Nova Scotia show that Folker was given a two-year sentence in 1992 for criminal negligence causing the death of Victor Clark Chandler, Jr.

Folker had pleaded guilty to the charge, which was laid after a June 2, 1991, crash near Scotch Village in Hants County.

Folker, who was 20 at the time of the incident, had also been charged with impaired driving causing death in the same case, although that charge was dropped.

The National Parole Board told CBC News that, following protocol, its records on the case were destroyed 10 years after Folker was paroled.

Folker has been remanded in custody in St. John's until at least his next court appearance on Sept. 28. Shirran was the subject of an intense public search that involved police and volunteers.

Folker had been, until after his arrest on Monday, one of the administrators of a Facebook group that Shirran's friends had established during the search.

Meanwhile, Folker has had other encounters with the courts. In June, he was charged with mischief after an incident at an office of the provincial Department of Human Resources, Labour and Employment in Mount Pearl, near St. John's.

Sources told CBC News that Folker had stormed out of the office, slamming a door and smashing a hole in the wall.

That matter is expected to be called in St. John's court later this month.


Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2010/09/08/folker-dangerous-driving-908.html#socialcomments#ixzz0z1vhMxDl
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: capeheart on September 09, 2010, 05:45:04 PM
Well this shows that this man has a violent temper. Ann Marie must have seen these actions at times when she was living with him. It is just so sad that she did not take her child and just leave that home. She could have just up and left when he wasn't home. Had the child's clothing ready and just walked out the door with the baby. I am so thankful that the baby was taken away from this monster before he could hurt the child. It gives me the chills to think that he could have done something to the baby also.This is a senseless act of violence and uncalled for and I hope he pays the ultimate price for what he has done to Ann Marie. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: Concerned on September 09, 2010, 08:42:50 PM
Very nice article of Ann Marie Shirran, through the memories of others.

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Murder victim worked in Wawa
Local News
Posted By MICHAEL PURVIS AND SHIRLEY MILLS, QMI AGENCY
Posted 13 hours ago
http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2749394
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: capeheart on September 09, 2010, 08:52:47 PM
Thanks for that link on Ann Marie, Concerned.  So sad that she had such a talent for writing and being such a part of the community, she certainly will be missed by friends and family. :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: jellybean on September 11, 2010, 10:44:42 PM
So very tragic!! Very tragic indeed. Good point, as to why she did not take her child and leave.  We will never know the answer.  The answer has passed away with her. I sincerely hope that a family member will take the the child and raise him. Get him out of Protective Services.  He has lost a father and a mother.  The Mommy, of whom  never left his side, is no longer. Women, wake up!! No relationship is worth staying in, if you are so very unhappy!! The end result can be very dangerous. But, I suppose, we all feel that things will work out, if we try a little harder;,  We believe that there is something wrong with us, or that  we can 'Change them'  Such a sad ending.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: capeheart on September 12, 2010, 09:26:34 PM
Jellybean, I think that women do not understand these men. I guess they take the make up stuff, you know, fight and make up. There comes a time you have to get out, it may be a boyfriend, husband, father, sister or someone that could have violent tendancies, you have to see it and sopt it before it escalates. Take the warning signals, because they are there. ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: jellybean on September 13, 2010, 05:02:03 PM
Amen.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: jellybean on December 18, 2010, 02:18:25 PM
UPDATE: HERE IS HER FACEBOOK PAGE THAT HAS BEEN KEPT UP TO DATE:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=141568745869039&v=wall&ref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=141568745869039&v=wall&ref=ts)

Her husband is out on bail.  Hearing to be held in the spring of 2011.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: jellybean on March 17, 2011, 06:01:42 PM
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2010-12-13/article-2038580/Preliminary-inquiry-for-David-Folker-set-for-next-spring/1
Preliminary inquiry for David Folker set for next spring


David Folker in court in this file photo. Rosie Gillingham/The Telegram

David Folker in court in this file photo.

    Published on December 13th, 2010
    Published on December 13th, 2010
 

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The preliminary inquiry for David Folker has been scheduled to begin next spring.

In provincial court in St. John’s this morning, Folker's lawyer Bob Simmonds and Crown prosecutor Iain Hollett agreed to begin the hearing May 30. It's expected to last six weeks.

Folker, 39, is charged with second-degree murder in the dearh of his common-law girlfriend, Ann Marie Shirran. He is also charged with improperly or indecently interfering with or performing an indignity to a human body.

Folker and Shirran had lived together and have a son who is a year old.

Shirran, 32, disappeared July 18 and an extensive search was conducted. Her body was finally found by campers in the woods south of Cappahayden on Sept. 2.

Folker was not in court today. He was released on bail Dec. 1 and was ordered to live with his mother in Nova Scotia.

Simmonds told Judge Robert Hyslop that he has most of the police evidence on the case, but is still waiting for forensic test results, which should be ready in about a month

Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: solvy on March 17, 2011, 07:07:44 PM
What!!!   I didn't think you could get out on bail with a murder charge???   Why I wonder 
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: jellybean on March 17, 2011, 08:08:28 PM
He has been released to his mother.  It is on this thread (somewhere)  He is not from Newfoundland - Anne Marie was. He moved back with her as she was homesick for the rock.

PEACE
JB
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: jellybean on June 13, 2011, 09:41:08 PM
It's not over yet!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2011/05/30/nl-shirran-folker-prelim-530.html


Inquiry opens in Shirran slaying

CBC News

Posted: May 30, 2011 6:50 AM NT

Last Updated: May 30, 2011 11:43 AM NT


David Folker sits in provincial court in St. John's, shortly before a preliminary inquiry began into a second-degree murder charge against him. (CBC )


A preliminary inquiry started Monday for the man accused of murdering Ann Marie Shirran, whose disappearance in St. John's last summer triggered a wide search.
 Ann Marie Shirran was reported missing last July. Her remains were found in early September, near Cappahayden. (CBC)
David Folker, who was charged last September with second-degree murder and with interfering with a body, had been Shirran's partner, as well as the father of her young son.
 
The inquiry will determine whether there is enough evidence to send the matter to trial. The next three weeks have been set aside at provincial court, as well as an additional three weeks starting in September.

About 35 witnesses are expected to be called during the first phase of the inquiry. A publication ban will prohibit reporting of the details that Judge Colin Flynn will hear.
 
The charges were laid after a six-week search in the St. John's area, in which friends and family members appeared for public help in locating a woman they said would never have left her one-year-old boy alone.
 
Shirran's body was eventually found in early September, in a wooded area about 100 kilometres south of St. John's, near the community of Cappahayden.
 
Folker, who was charged a few days later, has been on bail since December. He has been living at home in Nova Scotia with his mother.
 
St. John's lawyers Bob Simmonds and Rosellen Sullivan are representing Folker.

Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: jellybean on August 07, 2012, 11:37:14 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2012/05/01/nl-folker-shirran-plea-501.html



Folker pleads not guilty to murdering girlfriend Shirran
 
Ann Marie Shirran's remains were found in 2010 six weeks after she went missing
 
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Posted: May 1, 2012 11:46 AM NT

Last Updated: May 1, 2012 1:32 PM NT

David Folker pleaded not guilty to murdering his girlfriend Ann Marie Shirran during a court appearance today. (CBC)
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David Folker has pleaded not guilty to murdering his girlfriend, Ann Marie Shirran.
 

 During an arraignment Tuesday at Newfoundland and Labrador Supreme Court in St. John's, Folker also pleaded not guilty to interfering with human remains.

 
Shirran's decomposed body was discovered by campers on the Southern Shore in September 2010. She had been missing for six weeks.
 
Folker is the father of Shirran's son, who was just one year old at the time of her death.
 
Folker's trial is not expected to start until next year.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: jellybean on January 15, 2013, 05:12:03 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2012/09/28/nl-folker-simmonds-lawyer-withdraws-928.html

(The topic of Anne has been placed under Solved)  It still is an active case, in that the court case has not started).

Defence lawyers withdraw from Folker murder case

Bob Simmonds and his firm had been representing man charged in death of Ann Marie Shirran
 
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Posted: Sep 28, 2012 9:05 AM NT

Last Updated: Sep 28, 2012 10:44 AM NT

A prominent St. John's law firm has been permitted to withdraw from a high-profile murder trial.
 
Bob Simmonds and his firm have been representing David Folker for almost two years.
 
Folker is charged with second-degree murder in the 2010 death of his girlfriend, Ann Marie Shirran.
 
On Thursday, Newfoundland and Labrador Supreme Court Justice Wayne Dymond granted the application to withdraw.
David Folker is charged with second-degree murder in connection with the 2010 death of his girlfriend, Ann Marie Shirran. (CBC)
An application to the court noted that Simmonds and colleague Rosellen Sullivan "owing to previously unforeseeable professional and personal circumstances ... are no longer in a position to represent David Folker in this matter."
 
Simmonds said the application is connected to issues with his own law firm, and that his relationship with Folker has been fine.
 
"What I can clearly put on the record — and I did put this on the record, and I want no misunderstanding with anybody — this is not a breakdown of the solicitor-client relationship," he told CBC News.
 


 "David Folker has been a model client. He's been on bail. He's working. This is no way is precipitated by anything Mr. Folker did whatsoever. This was a problem that was internal to our firm."


Not guilty plea

Folker has pleaded not guilty to the charge.
 
A legal aid representative, John Duggan, told the court that Folker has a new lawyer in mind.
 
Duggan said that because this is a murder trial, Folker will in fact have two lawyers.
 
The matter is back in court Nov. 1.
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That is all that I can find?  This trial was to start November 1, 2012.  --Anything new?
JB

Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: jellybean on January 28, 2013, 09:34:14 PM
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2012-05-02/article-2968739/Folker-murder-trial-date-set/1
Folker murder trial date set
 Published on May 2, 2012
Rosie Gillingham 

Backlog of other serious cases pushes it to February 2013

The man suspected of killing his girlfriend — the mother of his child — in the summer of 2010 won’t go to trial until next year.
 
David Folker formally answered to the charges against him Tuesday morning in Newfoundland Supreme Court in St. John’s.
 
The 41-year-old is charged with second-degree murder and improperly or indecently interfering with or performing an indignity to a human body.
 
Folker is not in custody, so when the case was called he walked out of the public seats and into the prisoner’s dock.
 

He pleaded not guilty to both counts.
 
His eight-week jury trial is scheduled to start Feb. 4, 2013.

When trying to agree on trial dates, Justice Wayne Dymond pointed out the court schedule is extremely full this year, with two other murder cases set to be heard in the fall.
 

Steven Michael Neville’s trial is set for October, while Trevor Pardy’s is scheduled to begin in November.
 
Dymond noted the courthouse has only two jury rooms, one of which is very small.

He said the fall murder trials will overlap for one week, making accommodation difficult.
 
Folker’s lawyer, Rosellen Sullivan, told the judge that since she’s also representing Neville, it will be difficult to schedule pre-trial applications.
 
Dymond, Sullivan and Crown prosecutor Lloyd Strickland agreed to set the case over until the next arraignment date, June 4.
 
“Maybe something can be worked out (regarding scheduling for pre-trial applications) between now and then,” the judge said.
 
Folker is accused of killing his girlfriend, Ann Marie Shirran.
 
The 32-year-old disappeared July 18, 2010, and was reportedly last seen at the Kilbride home she shared with Folker.
 
He reported her missing. An extensive search was conducted, but it wasn’t until Sept. 2, 2010 that Shirran’s body was found by campers in the woods south of Cappahayden.
 

Other murder trials
 


In Steven Neville’s case, jury selection is set for Oct. 2 and the trial is expected to run from Oct. 22-Nov. 30. He’s charged with first-degree murder, attempted murder and breach of probation.
 
He’s accused of killing Doug Flynn in Paradise by stabbing him Oct. 9, 2010, and allegedly trying to kill another man, also by stabbing.
 
Trevor Pardy is suspected of fatally shooting his ex-girlfriend, Triffie Wadman, on Oct. 1, 2011 on Boggy Hall Place in the west end of St. John’s.
 
His trial is scheduled to run from Nov. 19 to Dec. 7.
 
Meanwhile, another murder case was called during arraignments Tuesday.
 
David John Ryan was not in court but was represented by his lawyer, Bob Buckingham.
 
Crown prosecutor Steve Dawson told the judge he needed more time to review the file, calling it “somewhat complicated.”
 
The case will be back June 4 for a status update.
 
In May 2007, a jury found Ryan guilty of second-degree murder. He was sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 16 years. However, in March Ryan was released from jail to await a new trial.
 
His conviction and sentence had been overturned by a Court of Appeal panel that concluded the judge should have declared a mistrial in the matter, which saw Ryan representing himself.
 
The panel said Ryan did not have an understanding of the complex legal issues involved in defending himself.
 

Many serious matters pending
 
Besides Folker, Neville, Pardy and Ryan, four other murder cases are in various stages of progress.
 
Raymond Gerald Newman’s case is on hold while lawyers deal with a slew of pre-trial applications.
 
Newman, 33, has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder in the death of his estranged wife, Chrissy Predham-Newman, 28.
 
Predham-Newman’s body was found in her Airport Heights apartment in St. John’s Jan. 21, 2007. She had been stabbed numerous times and her throat was reportedly slit.
 
Newman was arrested and charged 2 1/2 years later. He was initially denied bail, but later released on conditions.
 
Jury selection was originally scheduled for Sept. 19, 2011, with the trial scheduled to start a week later. However, due to ongoing applications matters — which are banned from publication — new dates for the trial have yet to be set.
 
The preliminary inquiry for Philip Wayne Pynn and Lyndon Malcolm Butler is scheduled to begin June 28, and is expected to last three weeks.
 
They are jointly charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Nick Winsor in the east end of St. John’s July 9, 2011, and the attempted murder of another man.
 
They also face other charges, including assault with a weapon and attempted robbery.

Pynn is still in custody, while Butler was released at the end of March on strict conditions.
 
A third man, Jonathan Eugene Rowe, was arrested in connection with the murder last month.
 
He was charged with being an accessory to murder by reportedly helping Pynn escape from the scene after Winsor was killed.
 
Rowe is in custody and is due back in court May 17.
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: jellybean on February 24, 2013, 01:57:28 PM
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2012-12-03/article-3132212/Folker-murder-trial-rescheduled-for-fall-2013/1
 His trial has now been moved forward to the fall of this year.
Folker murder trial rescheduled for fall 2013
Title: Re: Ann Marie Shirran | Murdered | St. John's (July 18, 2010)
Post by: Annastaisha on December 17, 2013, 12:17:37 PM
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/national/killed+spouse+body+Newfoundland+woods+faces+sentencing/9295307/story.html

ST. JOHN'S, N.L. - A man convicted of second-degree murder for killing his spouse and hiding her body in the woods south of St. John's, N.L., must serve 15 years of an automatic life sentence before he can apply for parole.

Provincial Supreme Court Judge Wayne Dymond delivered the sentence Tuesday for David Folker, found guilty last month in the slaying of 32-year-old Ann Marie Shirran. At issue was how much time he would have to spend in prison with no chance of parole.

Folker, 43, testified during his six-week jury trial that he never meant to kill Shirran when the two had a fight late on the night of July 18, 2010.

He said she died after he threw her to the floor and that he panicked, thinking police would blame him and he would lose custody of their baby son.

Folker said he hid Shirran's body in the woods near Cappahayden and lied about her disappearance until campers found her remains seven weeks later.

Dymond said Tuesday that Folker's "web of lies" raised false hopes that Shirran was alive as a costly police search dragged on.

Folker killed Shirran in the presence of their son, Dymond also noted.

"How that will affect the child in later years is not known at this time."

The judge also stressed that Folker left Shirran's body to the elements and wild animals, not showing any remorse until he admitted as his trial began that she died after they fought.

"The fact that Mr. Folker could allow this to happen speaks to his makeup as a person."

Dymond said he also considered Folker's troubled childhood in rural Nova Scotia, being raised by family friends after his parents separated.

Dymond noted that Folker got his high school equivalent in 2001 and became a welder. But he struggled to find work in Newfoundland in the weeks and months before Shirran died, his trial heard.

Dymond said Folker had no criminal history of violence in his relationship with Shirran.

The Crown wanted Folker to serve 18 years with no chance of parole, while the defence asked for 12 to 14 years.

Folker was also convicted of interfering with a dead body for how he drove Shirran's corpse, as their one-year-old son slept in his car seat, to a remote area about 100 kilometres south of St. John's. He then walked a short distance into thick forest and left it there, he testified.

Dymond sentenced him to 3 1/2 years concurrent with his life sentence on that count.

Folker apologized for his actions during a pre-sentencing hearing Dec. 4.

The couple's son, now four, is being raised by Shirran's family.

In a victim impact statement, her mother, Diane Baggs, wrote that losing a child "is this mother's worst nightmare."

She described sleepless nights and days of prayer during the search for her daughter.

"Her son will never feel her comforting arms again. There will be no more firsts, no special days, no milestones or any good times or bad times shared with his mother."

Baggs said the child suffers separation anxiety and often asks why he can't visit his mother.

"Even though he is a wonderful, loving, happy, friendly child, he realizes there is an integral piece missing in his life.

"The day is coming soon when he has to learn the truth."

Shirran's father, Jon Baggs, had already lost a son to a drunk driver in 2004. He said he has needed sleeping pills since seeing photos of his daughter's skeletal remains during Folker's pre-trial hearings.

The province's chief medical examiner testified at trial that Shirran had suffered blunt-force head injuries that would have been fatal but could not say for certain how she died.

"The images of Ann Marie's remains are etched in my brain and will go with me to the grave," wrote her father in his victim impact statement.

Outside court Tuesday, Baggs fought tears and said any relief from Folker's sentence will do little to ease his pain going forward.

"It's a chapter in our life tale that's over with and we'll just have to move on."

Shirran's brother, Dana Harrell, described an agonizing loss of faith since his sister died, coupled with rage.

"My anger is black and directed at David Folker with such intensity that it has been challenging to manage it," says Harrell's victim impact statement. But a desire to be there for Shirran's son is a powerful inspiration, he wrote.

"Those deep-rooted feelings of vengeance are rationalized away by my even greater want to be there for my sister's amazing little boy."