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Title: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on January 19, 2009, 06:12:22 PM
I came across Dylan Koshman's picture and accounts of him missing. The details are listed along with his picture, a very handsome young man in very good shape. This is on the North American Missing Persons site. I do not know how to copy his picture here. The facts were stated: After an argument with roommates, he was last seen leaving the backyard on 103rd Street and 33 Avenue at 2:30 a.m. on Saturday October 11, 2008.  There has been no activity on his bank account, phone or his facebook since. I feel that something terrible has happened to this young man and he could be added to the list of the young men missing on the west coast. I hope everything was done to verify the story of the roommates, that they didn't do anything to him. I hope forensics went through the apartment to verify the story. He has been missing now almost three months. I hope they are having this case on the front burner.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: mauvelilac on January 20, 2009, 01:46:55 PM
This site has his picture

REGINA -- Larger than life, Dylan Koshman now smiles down from billboards across the Prairies in hopes someone might recognize the missing man, formerly of Moose Jaw.

His family and friends have mounted searches, used websites, and are now turning to billboards in their quest to find the 21-year-old who vanished three months ago.

?I will do anything to find him,? his mother Melanie Alix said Wednesday. ?We want some answers. We just want to bring him home one way or another. We hate living in limbo.?

Her husband, Koshman?s step-father, contacted Pattison Outdoor Advertising about renting billboards last month. The company instead volunteered the space.

?You?ve got a family that?s lost their son ? I just really thought, well, if there?s a way that we can help bring this boy back to his family, then who knows,? said Brian de Ruiter, Pattison?s vice president for the Prairie region.

A total of four three-by-six-metre billboards went up this week on main thoroughfares in Saskatoon, Edmonton, Calgary, and Winnipeg. They tell passers-by that Koshman disappeared in Edmonton on Oct. 11 last year.

That was the day his roommate last saw him when he left their home near 104 Street and 33 Avenue shortly after 2 a.m. He shared the residence with his cousin. According to Edmonton police, Koshman had been drinking, got into a argument and left on foot. He was wearing only shoes, jeans, and a dark-coloured T-shirt.

Koshman had moved to Edmonton, where he worked as a pipefitter, about seven months earlier. He had plans to start an apprenticeship program, knew few people there and kept in regular contact with his family back in Moose Jaw. There has been no answer on his cellphone or activity in his bank account since his disappearance.

?It was the first Christmas he hasn?t been home in his life,? said his mother.

Koshman?s parents went to Edmonton for three weeks last fall to search everything from homeless shelters to ravines and put up missing persons posters ? all to no avail.

The family had bought advertising space on a digital sign mounted on a moving-type van shortly after his disappearance. Then Alix?s husband Denis had the idea for billboards and called Pattison. De Ruiter said it?s the first time he has been approached about putting up such a billboard, which would normally cost about $2,800 a month, depending on the location. Instead, the advertising space, creative services and cost of installing the signs were donated ? saving the family about $8,500 ? while they were responsible for the printing costs only.

While it?s too early to know if the signs are generating any usable tips, the billboards alone are creating a lot of renewed interest, which has picked up Alix?s spirits.

?It?s comforting people aren?t forgetting ? It?s such a scary thing that no one ever wants to have happen.?

Anyone with information is asked to call Edmonton police at 1-780-423-4567 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS.

bpacholik@leaderpost.canwest.com

http://www.leaderpost.com/business/fp/Billboards+donated+Moose+family+search/1152839/story.html
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: mauvelilac on January 20, 2009, 01:59:15 PM
Here is a picture of the billboard that was in the previous story.

http://www.leaderpost.com/business/fp/Billboards+donated+Moose+family+search/1152839/story.html
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: mauvelilac on January 20, 2009, 02:04:07 PM
Crimestoppers link: http://www.edmontoncrimestoppers.ca/MissingPersons/KOSHMANDylan.aspx
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Adrian on January 20, 2009, 02:18:27 PM


 :) Thanks Mauve, for all the information. I look at faces a lot, and he may be here in Edmonton, but I feel he may have met with some bad guys, or something. I hope for him, and his family and friends, that he is located ASAP.

((((HUGS)))) to all family and friends of Dylan Koshman, may peace come to you soon. I am so very sorry for your pain.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on January 20, 2009, 05:53:43 PM
Mauve, thank you for all the information on Dylan. I did not see it here and just wondered why it wasn't and added it on. I just can't understand how a young man could disappear off the face of the earth. Do they think the roomates are telling the truth???I wonder is every stone has gone unturned there. What was the weather like at that time??Is there a river or anything handy there? Also, was he seen at any bars in the neighbourhood after he started drinking. And why didn't his roommates report him missing if he went on October 11th or did they think he was with his girlfriend. It seems like a lot of unanswered questions. Thanks again for giving all the information on this. I send my deepest hope to the family that Dylan is found, but it sure is scary that he hasn't had activity on any of his person accounts. I will pray for his return and send my thoughts to the family and friends that he will be found. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: mauvelilac on January 21, 2009, 02:50:02 PM
Adrian and Cape: You're welcome, no thanx needed. I think Dylan was on here on one of Des's lists if I'm not mistaken. The trouble is there are so many people missing in the Alberta and BC regions it's really hard to keep up with them. I'm truly beginning to wonder if we have a John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Herb Baummeister situation onour hands. The magnitude of young men disappearing is really alarming me because society usually thinks a young man can more readily defend himself against attacks against themselves when it's becoming obvious that this isn't necessarily true. I truly hope we have a happy outcome in these cases that are coming to light but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on January 21, 2009, 03:02:31 PM
Well if Dylan was in a state of anger, he would not maybe notice much about the temperature until later on. He could have walked into any kind of a situation at that hour of the morning and even another fight. He could have been befriended by unknown bad types and they could have took him in and something happened with strangers. Someone in that area definitely knows what happened to him. Did any cabbies see him walking??? Did any police driveby and notice him walking?? Was he walking through alleyways or is it mainly sidewalks and streets in that area. Not knowing the lay of the land it is hard to fathom what coud have happened to him. He may have taken a drive and trusted someone, because he was drinking and he was not thinking straight. Sure hope some leads are soon to be found on what happened to Dylan.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on January 27, 2009, 09:07:15 PM
I think the roomates (cousins) are only telling half truths here.  Maybe there was more going on than just drinking.. and they won't tell you that. A lady walking her dog in the residential area at about 3 am that evening saw a man sitting on the sidewalk. (who walks their dog at that hour?)  She was pretty sure it was Dylan. The area he lived in was residential but about 2 city blocks off several very busy roads.  If he was taken from the residential area, it was by someone who knew he was there, but if he made it to the freeway or 34 St. it would be anyone's guess.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: lostlinganer on January 28, 2009, 11:35:09 AM
I must say; it freaks me out how many people go missing....then people try to figure out what mysterious circumstances preceded .... what little bit of information could point to an ultimate end of this person's life .... whether by accident, by nature, or by deliberate actions by other individuals around this person. 
The more we see of these cases, the more it seems apparent that there is a breed of sickos out there, who just seem to be cruising for, or sitting back hoping for an unsuspecting victim - someone who strayed from the crowd -someone alone and in some despair - or even just someone carelessly displaying a lone, carefree somewhat reckless demeaner for a bit.
That breed of sicko could be of the low-life category with a lust for bullying, torturing, killing etc.  It could also be a category of stalkers, of whom we would least expect to engage in such vile activities - it could be those we don't jump and run from - it could be those we trust and expect to protect and help.   It seems that could be what so many victims across this country secum to.  In this day and age, it is no longer safe to trust your safety is secure because most people out there are just like you and I.  This is no longer the case.  The days are gone when reasonable precausions pretty well kept us safe.  There is more danger and evil present in this day and age, than there ever was...and it's getting worse!  We are in danger we never before dreamed of ...imo.  sorry folks, if this sound pessimistic, or dramatic.  It is what it is!
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on January 28, 2009, 06:58:16 PM
Lost, I am willing to agree with you wholeheartedly. You cannot travel anymore and think, oh, we are going to go out and have a few drinks and come home and this is going to happen and everyone is going to be safe. Everyone has to care about the people they are with. You must have concrete plans when going out with a group. Also, most people when they are young cannot handle a lot of liquor and do unreasonable actions, which can be very dangerous. And lately it has been happening a great deal in this country and not only here, all over the world. Young people have to be more vigilant of their own safety and act accordingly. I do feel very badly for the parents and friends of Dylan. Great investigation should be done on the people who were with him that evening, those are my views. ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Adrian on January 29, 2009, 04:49:50 AM


Yes, there are a great number of young men missing, or found dead. Always suspicious circumstances. You know, Ling and Cape, I also think his friends should be questioned, more, and investigated. ??? :(

I hope the police are really looking into this phenonema, as we just may have a killer, who kills men.I just got a strange thought. I wonder if these sickoes that are abducting women, are not also abducting men, for their own enjoyment. A scenario like that is conceivable.

Ling, you talk about "Fatal Sex", and how there may be a specific location, where a lot of sadistic acts are done. The profilers that Kare have, are  used to dealing with the sexually, sadistic, homicidal maniacs.

Cape, you are right about going out for an evening. We should always be in a group, or with someone, for back up, in case of trouble. Also our defenses go down, if we drink too much, and bad choices are made. Women are exceptionally vulnerable. I remember when I was younger, and good Lord, I took many risks. Not anymore, as I am very suspicious of some people. I hate being this way, as I always look for the good, but now a days, you just can't take chances.

Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on January 31, 2009, 07:24:56 PM
Adrian, you got that right. I think about things I did when I was younger, but around my area we all know everyone, but never let your guard down and be left alone in the crowd. When it is later in the evening, always stay with someone if you're partying, keep safe, have fun, but stay safe. Young people now don't think too much about that, whatever the reason I don't know. My mom is passed on now, but when I was younger I was going with friends all over my area, she always said for me to have cab fare home and not to ever spend it, I followed that motto and by gosh it came in handy at times. Always have cab fare home, because someone might just take off on you and leave you there, one never knows.  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on January 31, 2009, 09:40:28 PM
Cape

That is really bringing back memories for me.  My mom called it  "pin money"  and she said they would use a safety pin and attach it in a hidden place  for when ever it may be needed.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on February 01, 2009, 12:46:41 AM
I won't say how old i am, but you know more people should be telling their children about getting home safe. These days, it is a lot more dangerous.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: mauvelilac on February 03, 2009, 06:26:49 PM
The man in the States, the remote viewer did a reading or a dream whatever you prefer.

http://www.briansprediction.com/MISSING/publicr/DylanKoshman648.htm

Anyone recognize the area?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: lostlinganer on February 03, 2009, 07:04:03 PM
Here are the two statements Brian makes in his prediction:

"Dylan did not know how much S had give(n) him - cant see, mouth is dry -- shacking, foam from mouth - eyes are not there"

"they told police lies, they know it - stories do not make sense, look at page 57 in log - truth will be known on radio"

"cheese fried - body in area 7 ave river"

If went missing from Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan...there is a river and a 7th Ave.

I hope this DD is wrong, I felt sick when I got up today.

Brian





..... also he believes this is the area Dylan is in. (7th ave. runs as a verticle line down the centre of the picture/map.

Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on February 04, 2009, 12:28:52 AM
When I read Bryan's dream, I thought  that Dylan was originally from Moose Jaw, but he disappeared from Edm.  So I went to Google earth and checked the area where the residence was that he disappeared from. 

checked the major roads leading away from there, and found 7th ave.  followed a couple of main roads til I acame up to the Saskatchewan river.  Now Its pretty isolated  there, but there is a golf course and other buildings I can't identify.  Lots of track type roads leading away from the golf course and down the river.

I wish I knew how to copy the google map here.

I don't think he left Edmonton at all.  It would be good if the police would check along the river  at about  7th ave.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: lostlinganer on February 04, 2009, 08:50:06 AM
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Edmonton,+7th+ave&sll=53.431322,-113.462591&sspn=0.01529,0.035706&g=Edmonton,+7th+ave&ie=UTF8&ll=53.426336,-113.462548&spn=0.003823,0.008926&t=h&z=16
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: mauvelilac on February 04, 2009, 09:41:43 AM
If I'm not mistaken, Dylan was originally from Moose Jaw. I personally think he didn't leave his apartment under his own willpower. If he left at all, he left dead. Someone in Alberta needs too tell police to check their records of the two roommates. I think Dylan will be found when the snow melts. If I lived closer I'd go looking myself. I think Brian's close on this one. I got a bad feeling reading it, that's why I posted it.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on February 04, 2009, 03:59:33 PM
I have also a feeling that the roommates of Dylan are responsible in some fashion for what happened to him. The police must go back and investigate the roommates, question them separately and take a video statement from each one of them and go over their stories with a fine tooth comb. Also, the forensics team should be taken to that apartment to check out any foul play. If the roommates have nothing to hide, it shouldn't be hard to do this. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Edsonmom on July 24, 2009, 02:27:47 AM
AWE, his mom just posted this on kijiji.ca

Address: Edmonton, AB
Date Listed: 24-Jul-09
 
Our son DYLAN KOSHMAN went missing Oct. 10, 2008. He was last seen leaving his house in Edmonton just off Calgary Trail and 34 Ave.
He is now 22, 5' 9", 180 lbs (may weigh less than he did in this picture), longer (thick) brown hair and brown facial hair.  He has a dimple on his left cheek and a light scar by his right eyebrow.
His disappearing like this is not like Dylan. He is loved by his family and friends, and is greatly missed. We just want him back or to know where he is.
 
If you’ve seen him, please call the Edmonton Police at 780-423-4567
Or Crime Stoppers (completely anonymous) at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477)
 
*Thank you everybody for caring and continuing to support Dylan, his family, and friends. Keep hoping and praying*

http://fortmcmurray.kijiji.ca/c-community-lost-found-MISSING-PERSON-Please-look-W0QQAdIdZ144277869
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on July 24, 2009, 06:49:53 PM
It is not likely that Dylan is going to be found alive. And at the time a great search should have been done scouring the area to see if his body could be found. Whoever did anything to him, now are probably laying back thinking they got away with murder. All persons should be questioned again. Possibly his mother should consider a civil action against these young men. Get things moving, put a scare into these fellows if they know something.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Chris on September 15, 2009, 11:55:17 PM
That is pretty sad that they are expecting him to be dead. Wonder what the argument was about?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on October 07, 2009, 10:19:44 PM
From the map of Edmonton put up, 7th avenue is not far from the river, straight down Ellerslie Road. There is also the Blackmud Creek which may or may not be deep enough, not sure.
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Des,  I was in Edm. last week and drove over the blackmud creek.  Its not wide, but if he was there i think he would have been found by now.  It only seemed to be maybe 12-15 feet deep at center.  Don't think that would be enough to hide a body for long??

It is strange that nothing else has come up about him.

But those kids he was with know more, I'm positive of that.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on October 08, 2009, 09:14:05 PM
Just read this in the Edm journal

EDMONTON — Melanie Alix says she still looks into every face she meets on the sidewalk hoping to find her son Dylan, who disappeared after leaving his south Edmonton home nearly one year ago.

“If I see someone built like him or with the colour of his hair walking down the street, I’m looking, and that will never stop until we have answers,” Alix said from her home in Moose Jaw, S.K., Thursday. “I know in my heart something has happened to him. Whether it was an accident or foul play, he wouldn’t be away on his own will, I know that for a fact.”

Police say it’s unusual they still don’t have a clear idea of what happened to 21-year-old Dylan Koshman, who was last seen storming down a back alley after a fight with his cousins around 2 a.m. on Oct. 11, 2008. He was wearing only shoes, jeans and a dark T-shirt.

“At the present time there is no theory about what happened and this is why we’re soliciting the public’s help in this matter,” said Const. Jim Gurney, an investigator with the missing persons unit.

Police have no information about what happened to Koshman after he left his home. Police found his wallet in a neighbour’s yard, but there hasn’t been any activity on his bank account and no answer on his cellphone.

His girlfriend reported him missing on Oct. 15, 2008, when he didn’t show up for work. He had moved to Edmonton about six months before to work for an oil and gas contracting company.

“We can’t rule out foul play, but of course we can’t rule out an accident right now. We just don’t know. That’s why we’re asking for assistance,” Gurney said.

Family and friends have accompanied Alix on a number of trips to Edmonton and surrounding communities to put up posters, talk to people and search for her son. Police can only devote so many resources to finding Koshman, so she said she is counting on tips from the public to help find him.

“I just hope there is somebody out there who has any information that could help us find that peace that we need so badly,” she said.

“It’s been a year. People think the suffering’s lessened, but it hasn’t. My heart goes out to all people with missing family members because the feeling doesn’t ever go away.”

Missing persons unit investigator Const. Sean Jenkinson said new information and tips have slowed down as the year has progressed.

“We’ll speak to anyone that has information about him, especially with something like this that’s gone on so long. There may be someone out there we’re not aware of who knew him as an acquaintance and we’ll gladly speak to him,” Jenkinson said.

Koshman’s family is holding a candlelight vigil at 6:30 p.m. on Oct. 11 on the southwest corner of 34th Avenue and Calgary Trail.

“I have to do everything in my power to bring him home, whether it’s the best circumstance, that’s he’s alive ... and the worst scenario, that he’s gone. I want to be able to bury him, grieve and have peace,” Alix said.

ciltan@thejournal.canwest.com
© Copyright (c) The Edmonton Journal
 
 
 

   

 
 
 
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: lostlinganer on October 09, 2009, 09:40:36 AM
Echo that SAP!!! :(
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on November 07, 2009, 11:39:39 PM
I am wondering if he ever was at the cousins house!  Who , other than the cousins was the last one to see Dylan.  Did he go to work that day?   Someone has to crack soon.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on November 08, 2009, 07:43:51 PM
Solvy, apparently he was drinking a lot that evening and possibly so were the roomates. As I understand it there was an argument and that is when he left. As I understand it, that was where he resided, with these roommates. I truly believe that someone is keeping a secret of what really happened that night. Each person should be interrogated again and see how their story adds up.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: lostlinganer on November 09, 2009, 09:23:52 AM
I'm sure you've said that before cape .... and rightfully so!  Imo, I don't believe he left that place and left his wallet behind;  I would believe, however, his wallet got dropped during whatever transpired that those roomies have yet to admit.   My gut tells me he never left his roomie's company....or if he did make a run out of there, someone went after or with him.  (or maybe he even came back for his wallet and that's when something, yet unadmitted, transpired.)  anything is possible and certainly more likely than just "vanishing into thin air".
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on November 09, 2009, 10:30:02 AM
Ditto on that Solvy and Lost, the roomies know what happened to Dylan. How many times have we seen this in the past, who saw the person last and when. How could this young man disappear into thin air. If he was that intoxicated, he wouldn't get far, he would just lay down and fall asleep somewhere. Somebody would have come across him or seen him. I really hope they interrogate the last persons to have seen him again. ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on January 29, 2010, 10:01:45 PM
I have been re-reading this thread today and I am sure that some posts have been deleted.  I remember posts from a person claiming to be a cousin (female) .


she stated that she had 2 cousins leave the house at the time of the argument, only Dylan didnt come back.

I am aware that only the poster can delete their own post.  Wonder why she did that?

Does anyone else remember this ?  Cape or Lost?   Or am I losing my mind!!
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on January 29, 2010, 11:36:18 PM
Thankks chet,   

This case is one I have been watching closely, but havent seen anything new lately.  Hence the review .  If this was fact, it was not released by the police. ther is nothing new at Last Link  either.

I got the impression that the poster was trying to deflect our strong view  that the cousins knew more than they were telling.

If that poster is still reading, come back, we really wouldlike your input.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on January 30, 2010, 02:59:30 AM
Yes Des it is interesting alright.  I always wonder at the amount of guests we have looking in on the posts at any given time of the day or night.  Are they the same people over & over checking on specific cases, or like you say just popping in to see if anything is new with one particular case. 

For sure I think if murderers have access to the internet they will find this site, and their curiosity would not let them pass it by without a peek.  ( thats kinda creepy isnt it)

As for LE , We would be silly to think that the board hasnt been looked at, as a potential resource.

Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on January 30, 2010, 06:39:53 PM
I don't remember the comment about the cousin saying that three went out and only two came back, minus Dylan. Of course, that doesn't mean that it wasn't on here. And why would that comment be removed, is right. Pressure should be put on once again with the last people who saw Dylan. Somebody like you say will crack and give it up on what really lhappened that night. ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: lostlinganer on January 30, 2010, 09:43:58 PM
the comment from the cousin sounds familar to me..... I'm pretty sure there was one here early in the year...(unless that was on another thread)  was Dylan mentioned on another thread....like a discussion thread or in the member's lounge?
I've noticed posts disappearing too....like people come out with something...then they get scared off. :-\
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on January 30, 2010, 10:24:12 PM
Thank you all for your answers.  I think Chet is right, that there was another thread and when they were combined, some posts got lost.  As I also was confused about the posters comments, and Adrien and I posted to each other about it. 

She did not say how many people were in the house that night, only that 2 were asked to leave. Dylan did not come home. did not say when the other person returned either....

So many ??'s

If the family is still willing to believe the cousins story and think Dylan is just missing, why arnt there more concrete facts being put forth.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on January 31, 2010, 04:34:58 PM
SAP, I am with you on this one also. I believe that the answer is right back at that house and the persons who were there know what happened. The police have to interrogate more and keep going back, because someone will crack because there were several people there. So many crimes are not solved, because the police are not doing enough or maybe they're shorthanded and can't put the time on it. Some of these cases should be brought to the front burner, because it is only 2008 that Dylan went missing. This is the time to lean on someone and get some answers, before the case goes too cold and people move away and they disappear into the sunset. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on February 13, 2010, 01:32:15 AM
Hi Jellybean and welcome.

I think a lot of what you have said is very possible.  But I would think that the police would have been able to tell if the crime scene was in that house.  I am sure they checked the home thoroughly.

The back and forth to the house that you mention is very possible.  I also wonder why he would leave taking his cell, but not his coat, unless he didn'tplan on being away too long.  It was cold that night in Oct.

Apparently many searches have been done around the areas with no positive results.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on February 13, 2010, 11:52:40 AM
I have stated this from my first comments, the answer is back at the apartment. The people who were with Dylan that night, know what happened to him. Dylan was not reported missing for a couple of days, so there was time to clean a crime scene. Why do the police just walk away and not investigate with a search warrant in these cases. So many cases where the person did not leave the last place they were in alive. So many domestic violence cases that end right at the home the person was living in. In my opinion, Dylan did not leave that residence walking away. Something very violent happened to Dylan and somebody knows it that was there that night. Take them all in for questioning again, somebody is going to crack. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: debbiec on February 14, 2010, 10:31:53 PM

At this point jellybean anything is a possibility. If and until Dylan is found and this is resolved one way or the other every scenario should be considered.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on February 14, 2010, 11:08:51 PM
Jelly bean

I don't think anything about the contents of his wallet was released.    Just thinking about your scenario.  What would be the advantage of them NOT calling the police when and if this happened, and just calling it an accident.  Why take the trouble to tamper with the body and hide it.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on February 15, 2010, 04:49:01 PM
What if there was more than alcohol at work this night.  Perhaps he was given or took too much drug and died.  If others in the house were involved with drug trade, they would not be very interested in the police looking in and around the house.  So maybe it was the lesser of two evils, report him missing, instead of an accident where more would be uncovered and maybe implicate the others.  Yes it is interesting that the cousins did not report this, as I am sure that the girlfriend talked to them many times over the few days before she reported it.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on February 15, 2010, 08:03:55 PM
I cannot believe that the bank will not give the parents the information. They now know that Dylan is missing after all this time and that his parents have been looking for him. And he has been basically  reported missing. I wonder if his parents had a lawyer, could he be able to get the access to the account to see what activity was on there. Maybe the Crown Prosecutor could get a court order to access Dylan's account, because they feel a crime may have been committed. If the truth is that Dylan left the party and had been drinking heavily, why was his body not found??? I say take them all in for questioning again, that is where I would go. I would keep going back to the people he was with. ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: SAP on May 21, 2010, 10:02:10 AM
What if there was more than alcohol at work this night.  Perhaps he was given or took too much drug and died.   If others in the house were involved with drug trade, they would not be very interested in the police looking in and around the house.  So maybe it was the lesser of two evils, report him missing, instead of an accident where more would be uncovered and maybe implicate the others.  Yes it is interesting that the cousins did not report this, as I am sure that the girlfriend talked to them many times over the few days before she reported it.

Solvy, I tend to think that may be what happened. Considering the fact there were drugs involved, no matter if the others are cousins or friends, they didn't want the police around. I ran into another case recently where a young man had a combo of alcohol and drugs, passed out and vomitted, partially obstructing his airway and he was left for a very long time. He is now quite braindamaged from lack of oxygen. HIs parents feel that b/c of drugs involved that his 'friends' didn't get help for him. How sad that a human life has so little meaning for some. I had thought of Dylan immediately when I saw this young man and heard his history. This young fellow was experimenting, and such could have been the case with Dylan.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on May 21, 2010, 04:55:39 PM
Somehow or other, I believe their story that there was an argument. The story they told was there was an argument and they put him out to cool off. My belief is Dylan did not walk out of his own free will. I believe an altercation took place and Dylan died. They did something to cover up his death and are covering for each other. If it was an accidental dose of drugs, they could call the ambulance and just say it was an accident. But if they had a fight and Dylan died, then that is a different ball of wax. I believe they did something to Dylan, whether it was intentional or an accident, I believe Dylan died that night in that apartment. Those are my views and I am stating them very clear at this time. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)  I am also modifying what I am saying, the police usually say that when they take statements from people that could end up being charged is, there is always a bit of truth in their statements. So they said there was an argument and I think that part of the story is true, but then there is a percentage of it that is lies. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on May 21, 2010, 07:40:50 PM
Hi Sap,  yes  I still am thinking the same scenario for Dylan.  I am in edmonton today, and have driven down close to his home, where he disappeared from.   There is lots of places to "dispose" of a body  here. The whitemud and blackmud creek areas are full of water and fairly deep.  The river and lots of construction near here. New family homes going up, new sewer lines, as the urban area overtakes the rural farms.  The airport is almost in town now! 

I have no doubt one day he will be found.  Just wish his family will push for the truth to come out.  More questions than answers here.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: SAP on May 22, 2010, 10:00:13 AM
Solvy, if the buildings are going up that fast there must be alot of changes in the past 2 years. Is there a quick and easy place they could have dragged Dylan? I have no idea if those creeks dry up a bit in the summer, whether a body could be spotted.
His family had large billboards, and there were so many places his picture was presented when he went missing. I guess not being from here, they don't have all the resources and opportunity to keep on emphasizing his case. That is really too bad.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: SAP on May 22, 2010, 12:49:36 PM
I guess there were some posts removed, since many are addressing "jellybean" and I don't see any posts. Too bad, since it interrupts the flow of conversation. I'm interested in whatever anyone has to say.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: lostlinganer on May 22, 2010, 01:15:44 PM
Poor Dylan; it's been over a year and a half;  somebody knows something.  My gut tells me he was disposed of in those murky waters.  September-October is rainy season in most places, and water levels are high and full of leaves, silt, and debris;  the killer/s wouldn't think twice about using the quick and obvious grave.

I still think "Brian's Dream" is very possibly accurate in this case; but nobody has taken it seriously obviously!  jmo!

http://www.briansprediction.com/MISSING/publicr/DylanKoshman648.htm
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 22, 2010, 01:33:32 PM
I removed my posts out of courtesy for the family.  Gosh, I was clipping along there, getting so wrapped up in this case, that I felt that I might be getting carried away.   I think that it is odd that room mates did not report  him missing.   He came to Edmonton to make a new life (initially), like many  young people did during the "boom".  Time has passed and he cannot possibly be part of the living. If he had an accident outside of his home, he would have been found, sent to hospital, etc. If he had disappeared on his own, why did he not access his bank account? Wouldn't we all have to access ours- should we decide to disappear to start over? And at his age, would he not just use his money to go back home to Moose Jaw? The police would not have checked his home looking for something suspicious, not if reported "missing".  Upon reflection, I also feel sorry for his cousins who kicked him out to cool off.  Just think of how they must feel?  They could very well be totally innocent, although not reporting it does cast suspicion.  Dylan was not known to police, according to news reports.  They originally did not view his disappearance as suspicious, however after talking to his family (Mom and sister) they changed their minds.  Originally, they stated that they had no reason to suspect foul play.  If he had wandered down to the ravine, his remains would very likely have been found by now, as many people walk their dogs through there. However, if he was seen by  a lady walking her dog at 3 am., as he sat on the sidewalk, he probably tried to get back in, where else would he go, could he go, if he discovered that he lost his wallet?  That is really all that we know about the situation. 
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: lostlinganer on May 22, 2010, 01:58:30 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=7+Ave+NW,+Moose+Jaw,+Division+No.++7,+Saskatchewan+S6H,+Canada&sll=50.2957,-105.526085&sspn=0.023742,0.055189&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=7+Ave+NW,+Moose+Jaw,+Saskatchewan,+Canada&ll=50.38995,-105.550761&spn=0.002962,0.006899&t=h&z=17
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 23, 2010, 09:33:42 AM
I have gone back to various articles regarding Dylan Edmonton Journal, and also have found a wonderful web site called Footprints at the Rivers Edge. I am sending an attachment which recaps this info.  Hopefully it will be helpful to we sleuths.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 23, 2010, 12:11:14 PM
Read your post Despere, : Where on Brians dream site, did you find, anything about his dream re: Dylan? Can yu help me locate it? Thanks
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: SAP on May 23, 2010, 12:58:08 PM
http://www.briansprediction.com/MISSING/publicr/DylanKoshman648.htm
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 23, 2010, 02:01:11 PM
Thanks for the link. Read Brian's prediction.  Thing that puzzles me is that the last ping on his cell phone came at 3:30 am in the vicinity in which he lived (see my attachment). So even if he had gone somewhere else, the pings would still show up, would it not? - or would it? It was minus 1C that nite, so he would not have walked to 7th Ave or 7th Street.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: SAP on May 23, 2010, 04:47:41 PM
Thanks for the link. Read Brian's prediction.  Thing that puzzles me is that the last ping on his cell phone came at 3:30 am in the vicinity in which he lived (see my attachment). So even if he had gone somewhere else, the pings would still show up, would it not? - or would it? It was minus 1C that nite, so he would not have walked to 7th Ave or 7th Street.

I suppose we'd need to know where the towers are, how close they are. I have read somewhere before, info given by a communications tech that pings in the near vicinity measure up to 100 feet radius.

I've never believed in ghost/spirit stories until several years ago when I actually knew the people involved as well as the area involved. NC107 had mentioned that Police do use Brian's Predictions, however I have not paid much attention to him. Maybe he has something after all.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 24, 2010, 01:36:32 PM
Dylans last known address is about a 10 minute walk from Hwy 2. There are no ravines in his area.  Any chance he walked to hwy 2 and hitch hiked to leave the area?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 27, 2010, 12:34:29 AM
Don't plan on being frightened off this time, by someone on this website, who made me feel that I must get rid of my comments on this case. His last ping was at 3:30 a.m. He was seen by 2 different people, sitting  on the sidewalk  His last phone call would ay alot, But his parenst"s are going thru hell to find this out with the authoritie.  No way, at the climate temp. would he have the energy to think.  I saytat he ca  . 
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: lostlinganer on May 27, 2010, 01:12:09 PM
who are the most logical people (an I use that word loosely) to notice somebody sitting on the sidewalk several times while passing? 
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: SAP on May 27, 2010, 01:31:46 PM
I really wonder if dogwalkers saw him at 3 AM. I wouldn't be walking my dogs at that time in Edmonton, no way. Perhaps just out the back door and no further.
If those cousins didn't allow him back in that must have been some fight! How could they kick someone out in only a T-shirt? Something smells there.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 30, 2010, 12:43:47 PM
I lived in that area, have since moved, and his area is a very safe area.  It also has lovely apartment buildings, and although it is a rare thing for apartments to accept dogs, some do (small dogs, or cats)  In my apartment we do have tenants here with small dogs, who walk them in the wee hours.  Strange, but true.  I have a cat, can't see myself getting up at 3:00 a.m to walk little poochy to do his/her business.  So it is possible. Family trying to get his cell phone records, and bank records.  Last I read they were having difficulty.  He was 21 an adult and the rule of thumb is, until something comes up, he is still considered part of the living, and that he may just "wanted to have disappeared", which is ridiculous, but that is the law. However, they were able to obtain the information that the last ping on his phone was at 3:30 a.m. He may have called someone to come and pick him up. And yes, it doesn't make sense to be out in cold weather with just a T-shirt on, also, after drinking, he would be getting pretty dehydrated and tired. My heart goes out to his parents, and siblings.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: lostlinganer on May 30, 2010, 09:36:28 PM
Maybe he was picked up by that city's unfinest, beaten for fun, then disposed of.  I'm sure they would know the best disposal sites.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 31, 2010, 01:43:11 PM
Could be. He might of been picked up by someone. According to one web-site, an aunt  of the Koshman family said that his battery on his phone was dead.  However, the police say that the last ping on this cell phone was at 3:30 am in the general area about an hour after he left his residence. Another family member states that Dylan knew a lot of people in Edmonton.  (This is typical of young people,they make friends quickly. Each time the family talks, they give a little bit more info. Not much, just a little bit.  It comes from other family members, not his parents or siblings.  But, when you are on the street in a t shirt, and its -1 C, and if your cell battery was dead that day, as one aunt stated, and you were probably tired and possibly thirsty, and you discovered that you lost your wallet, what would you do? If the cell phone was working, I would call a friend to come and pick me up. If the cell phone was dead?  I would ring the door bell of "my home" to get back in. But the cousins didn't mention that he had tried to get back in. Just goes around and around in circles. I hope the police are still involved in getting info.  A thought - was his wallet checked for fingerprints?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on May 31, 2010, 01:59:34 PM
Brian's predictions are exactly what I said from the very first. I say whatever happened, the cousins are not telling the truth. Something happened, if Dylan left, he came back. If Dylan's wallet and ID were found close by in a neighbour's yard, someone threw it because he went missing right there. Somebody did something right close to home and I say, go back to the cousins, they are hiding something. Brian says what I said right from the first. There are two different stories and that says enough, the cousins know more then they are saying.8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 31, 2010, 04:45:48 PM
 His brother lives in Edmonton, and he didn't try to get in touch with his brother.  If Dylan had enough of living with his room mate, he would have contacted him.  But girlfriend called his brother, and he had not even heard that he was missing as well. They were quite close, as per other web sites. A sister states that the cousins didn't have anything to do with it, as there is a witness to prove it. Family members in Moose Jaw, are beside themselves. Question. Would a cell phone still ping if his battery was dead?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on June 02, 2010, 12:08:55 PM
Jellybean, I really think that once the battery is dead that is it. There is no way for a signal to go through with a dead battery. The reason I say the cousins are involved is that, why didn't they go and look for him. It was the late hours and they knew he could be in trouble, I still think they are suspicious. The reason I say it is, he was missing a long time before they told anybody. They were totally uncaring, as if they knew he wasn't coming back. Look at all of the husbands that have done away with their wives, they always say they ran off. This is a similar situation, it is not adding up that nobody saw Dylan that night. If they saw him on the sidewalk when they were walking the dog, so be it, but I believe he went back. WHY WAS HIS ID SO CLOSE TO HOME?????? Because if his ID was found in the house, they know that nobody leaves home without their wallet. Is this a reliable witness??? I am sticking with my guns on this one, it does not add up at all. ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Concerned on June 02, 2010, 07:49:52 PM
Ron Howard, president and CEO of lomax Inc, a North Carolina firm that develops cell phone tracking technology states, “If you understand how a cell phone works, you can use it as a survival tool." They sell their technology to the US Defense Department. He has some great tips about cell phone tracing in the article, in general. But it doesn't appear that it can ping once dead. I will continue looking for info. But here is a few interesting quotes that may just help someone find someone before the ping dies.

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If the phone as battery power and is turned on, Iomax claims its technology can find that device to within 40 or 50 meters. Traditional cell companies use techniques that can locate a phone within roughly 500 to 1,000 yards, said Howard...


That type of technology does two things: it pinpoints the location of a live cell phone, and in very remote cases, it creates a coverage grid where one didn’t exist before.

“If the cell phone provider can’t ‘see’ you (from nearby towers), at that point you’re outside their range. But you can bring in this technology, which brings the coverage to you,” Howard said. The survival strategy depends on the cell phone user remaining calm and staying more or less in the same area — if shelter and water are available — so rescuers can eventually pinpoint their location using the phone as a beacon.

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/blogs/txt/archive/?postID=473
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on June 05, 2010, 09:27:57 PM
It is a mystery.  One that may not have a happy ending, and perhaps may never be solved..  His sister Tara reported that the last cell phone ping was at 3:30 am in his general area, and then nothing. She also states that the argument is the circumstances, as to his  leaving. but not the cause of his missing.  She states that her cousins were not involved and that there is a witness to prove it. My own sister, who once worked in tele-com said that a ping is when someone calls you.  The expression is often used "ping me" which means call me.  If his cell phone was off, he would not have received the call. The tower within his area, would have received the call and relayed it to his cell phone. Ping his cell phone.  However, if his cell phone was off, or not working, he would not have received the call. Who called him? The two cousins looking for him? The cousins would have told her that they tried to phone him, yet she didn't state that. And how  would she know that his cell phone pinged at 3:30 am in the general area where he lived?  Anyhow, the last trace is 3:30 a.m. We have too many young people missing in our Province. It was never this bad, as it has been the last few years. It still goes back to the house, or hitchhiking.  Hwy 2 is not too far from where he lived.  There are plenty of cars and trucks out driving even at that ungodly hour.  Lets hope that Dylan re-appears and reunites. I doubt if we will learn anything new, until he's found.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on June 06, 2010, 12:19:16 PM
Jellybean, I really think that once the battery is dead that is it. There is no way for a signal to go through with a dead battery. The reason I say the cousins are involved is that, why didn't they go and look for him. It was the late hours and they knew he could be in trouble, I still think they are suspicious. The reason I say it is, he was missing a long time before they told anybody. They were totally uncaring, as if they knew he wasn't coming back. Look at all of the husbands that have done away with their wives, they always say they ran off. This is a similar situation, it is not adding up that nobody saw Dylan that night. If they saw him on the sidewalk when they were walking the dog, so be it, but I believe he went back. WHY WAS HIS ID SO CLOSE TO HOME?????? Because if his ID was found in the house, they know that nobody leaves home without their wallet. Is this a reliable witness??? I am sticking with my guns on this one, it does not add up at all. ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I have been lock-step all the way with you on this one.  Just trying to look at other possibilities.  Nothing new posted from family anywhere.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Chris on June 08, 2010, 08:45:22 PM
I saw a poster today of this case here in Sask. I hope that effort pays off. Would be great to see this solved soon.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on June 09, 2010, 03:37:52 PM
Chris, we sure would like to know what happened to Dylan. A mystery that the family should have solved and anyone who knows should come forward, call crime stoppers and tell what they know related to Dylan's disappearance.  ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: myster101 on June 10, 2010, 12:47:27 AM
my family used to work with Nick Koshman( the cousin) of Dylan. i had only met Dylan twice and he seemed like a nice guy. not one you would imagine to just up and leave. i do hope he comes home. I know what it is like to lose a family memeber. My cousin Jack Fraser has been missing since 2004
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on June 12, 2010, 05:41:28 PM
myster101, so sorry you have someone missing in your family, this has to be very fraustrating for the family members to not know what has happened to the person. So many people missing these days, young and old. You just have to keep going back to the last place they were seen and the answer is there.  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: myster101 on June 12, 2010, 10:45:00 PM
the last place i remember hearing anything was at the place of residence for both Dylan and Jack. I hope everyday  for the safe return home of both of the boys
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on June 17, 2010, 04:09:28 PM
I believe someone on this site, had asked if it was possible Dylan met up with Mark Twichell. He is in jail now, and no word yet as to his trial.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on June 25, 2010, 12:08:02 PM
I sent an e-mail to Edmonton City Police, nudging them to further investigate.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on June 27, 2010, 08:52:57 PM
the last place i remember hearing anything was at the place of residence for both Dylan and Jack. I hope everyday  for the safe return home of both of the boys

Mystery 101. Your wording is that they shared the same residence.  I don't think so?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: myster101 on June 30, 2010, 10:47:46 PM
Jack and Dylan didnt share the same place no. Jack was in Vancouver.

Dylan and his cousin Nick shared the place.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on July 02, 2010, 03:38:51 PM
Jack and Dylan didnt share the same place no. Jack was in Vancouver.

Dylan and his cousin Nick shared the place.
I am  sure we all  hope that he returns to his family safe and sound.  Dylan is quite young, and am wondering if he may have tried to hitch hike back to Moose Jaw. Although you only met him two times, what are your thoughts on this (hitch hiking)  I used to when I was young, but then that was in a different time period. Also, how old was your cousin Jack Fraser. Were there any leads given his family?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on July 02, 2010, 04:15:13 PM
Jellybean, I really do not think that Dylan is alive. I believe he would not have put his family through all of this anguish all this time. I do not think he is able to contact them. He has large billboards posted with his picture on it. I feel sorry for his family not knowing what has happened, but I really do not think he just walked away. I believe something serious happened that night and somebody in that area definitely knows what went down. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: SAP on July 04, 2010, 12:13:16 PM
Jellybean, I really do not think that Dylan is alive. I believe he would not have put his family through all of this anguish all this time. I do not think he is able to contact them. He has large billboards posted with his picture on it. I feel sorry for his family not knowing what has happened, but I really do not think he just walked away. I believe something serious happened that night and somebody in that area definitely knows what went down. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I agree Cape. Usually the last persons with...have answers, but won't tell.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on July 06, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
I agree with Cape and Solvy.  Have right from the start.  However, there may be another explanation as to his disappearance.  I doubt if he is living amongst us. It is the wallet found in the neighbours back yard, along with the fact that no one from his place of residence told another family member that Dylan had decided to go his seperate way.  It was the girl friend who reported him missing.  Unless, Dylan had in the past, spent a few nites away from the residence without contacting his cousin to let him know that he would not be home. So, that might explain why the people of the residence were not concerned. If that was the case,  and they assumed that  Dylan was still angry with them, they would not expect a call.  However, they knew that he did not have a jacket, but that he had his phone, and may have thought that he called one of his friends who came and picked him up. If so, this is not very mature thinking on their part, but then I don't believe that any of them had an adult thought, regardless of their ages.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on September 14, 2010, 06:57:17 PM
Not another word about Dylan.  Mother calls every week.  Still not located, nor solved. Another cold case file?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Edsonmom on October 08, 2010, 01:27:53 PM
Well at least there is a short write up about his case on Global Edmonton.. This poor family..

Search continues for Dylan Koshman two years laterGlobal News: Friday, October 8, 2010 12:49 PM

It has almost been two years since an Edmonton man disappeared without a trace, but his family is not giving up hope. It will be two years on Monday since the disappearance of Dylan Koshman. The 22-year-old was last seen leaving his southside home following a fight with his roommates.


Dylan's family lives in Moose Jaw, but have travelled to the city several times to search for him. On Friday they were back in Edmonton and posted several posters asking for clues into Dylan's disappearance. On Sunday they will hold a vigil for the young man.
http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/Search+continues+Dylan+Koshman+years+later/3645404/story.html (http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/Search+continues+Dylan+Koshman+years+later/3645404/story.html)
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Carol-Lynn on October 11, 2010, 08:28:50 AM
Vigil held for Dylan Koshman  :'(

Family members prayed through tears on Sunday for Dylan Koshman as they marked a two-year anniversary they wish didn’t exist.

“There’s still no closure, and we have no answers,” said sister Tara Koshman, 29. “The urgency is still there, we would just like to know.”

Dylan was 21-years-old when he disappeared after he left his home Oct. 11, 2008 — he was last seen on the corner of 34 Avenue and Calgary Trail.

“We all agree that someone out there had to have seen something,” she said. “Now we need to reach that one person.”

For the second year, family and friends from across Alberta and Regina have gathered in that area to pray for the young man’s safe return or at least for some clues about what happened.

“I don’t believe he’s still out there and just not contacting us,” said Koshman. “There’s a reason.”

Koshman said it’s possible the disappearance of her brother could be linked to a head injury Dylan received previously.

He had formerly had a concussion and lost all memory for 24-hours.

“You never know with head injuries and we have heard of these cases happening,” she said. “It’s one of the possibilities among millions.”

Koshman said Dylan’s mother, Melanie Alix, is in consistent contact with the police on the investigation and the case remains active and open.

Dylan is one of five children in the family.

“He is my brother and I’ll always think of him. He’s one of our own and we will continue looking for him.”

Dylan is described as five-foot, nine inches tall with brown spiky hair and a large dimple on his left cheek. He has hazel eyes and pierced ears. He was last seen leaving his home near 104 Street and 33 Avenue wearing jeans and white shoes.



Melanie Alix (Dylan's mother, black jacket) reads a tribute to Dylan as her sister, Penny Cumming, looks on during a candlelight vigil for Dylan Koshman at the corner of Calgary Trail and 34 Avenue in Edmonton on Sunday, October 10, 2010. Koshman has been missing since 2008. (CODIE MCLACHLAN / EDMONTON SUN)
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: mousey on October 12, 2010, 10:53:11 PM
Love, prayers, and hope going out to your family!  Too many people missing from south Edmonton!!
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: HelpfindDylanKoshman on October 16, 2010, 11:23:34 PM
I am an immediate family member of Dylan. I love him very much, I also knew of this forum, but havent read in 2 years. I am glad that all of you are taking an interest in this case. I dont care what anyone says about him, as long as they are talking, and getting his picture out there.

I do want to address a couple of nagging questions. First of all his cell phone. The phone was either powered off, or lost battery life at around 2:30am. The phone last ping was at this time, and his last call, was trying to call his cousin. The police could not get a ping, gps, or detailed records, because 1) His phone didnt have the feature turned on, and 2) Its not illegal to be missing, and you need a warrant to look at peoples records.

The next thing I would like to address is about the cousins. Those poor boys would have been stoned to death if this were a different time. Some facts are key for police, and need to be kept private. However one thing I need to stress is that they have been questioned countless of hours, by police, and others (still are). They have always been cooperative, and gave statements that all lined up as a story. Remember that he was living with his cousins, and nowhere does it state who was all there, and all people involved that night have the same time line that goes 2hrs past Dylan going missing. I havent ruled anything out about Dylan, neither has the police, but this puts my mind at ease. Also some close people to the family, or privy to the gossip, know a little bit more detail, as I noticed on some of the comments. All I can say the game "telephone" in school, messed up everytime too.

His brother was NOT living in Edmonton at the time.

Third is that I have read this, and most likely some people close to him have had too. We realize that there is a good possibility that he is gone. I cry everytime I write that. But I dont know? I havent grieved over him, I havent come to terms with what I dont know, I havent went through the process of healing. So to me he isnt dead. We worry about him, we are scared that he is alone, we dont know; because there is a chance, no matter how small, that he is alive. So the urgency is still there. We never thought in a billion years that he would go missing. So wI will not rule anything out.  And for those who do know, please call the edmonton police. Bring some peace to our family.

I am through with saying my peace, and again Thank you for discussing Dylan, and being vigilant in help finding the missing.

P.S. All the psychic info we have recieve haasnt turned up anything. That Brian thing too. We did do searches in the area. Never came up with anything.
I prob left stuff out, because I forgot. Tired. Goodnight.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: debbiec on October 16, 2010, 11:40:19 PM
Thanks for being here and sharing a bit of Dylan's story. I can relate to a lot of what you've said,  and understand that the hardest part is the 'not knowing'. Hopefully there is a break in this case soon so that you and the rest of Dylan's family can find peace.

I have re - posted a picture of Dylan to keep him fresh in people's minds.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Edsonmom on October 17, 2010, 12:01:57 AM
Welcome HelpfindDylanKoshman!
 Thank you for the information you have provided tonight, as it clears up, a few things, that we have been trying to figure out.. I can only imagine, how hard this must be, for you & your family, and I am so very sorry, for what you are going through. I hope, that you can find a bit of comfort, in knowing, that there are still people out here, trying to find out what has happened to Dylan.
On behalf of all of us here, I want to apologize, to you and your family, if any of our posts, have offended or upset you, in any way.. Our intention is never to upset, the families, of the missing.
Our hope, is to keep cases, such as Dylan's in the public eye, as someone, who may have forgotten about this case, or may have information, without realizing they have it, may stumble upon sites such as this, and be able to come forward with information, that is new.

I do have one question for you.
Is there no way, that you, as an immediate family member, can get a hold of Dylan's cell phone records? You would think, that the provider that he went through, would be happy to hand them over, in this situation.. Shame on them, if they won't, as this is important information, for this case.

I wish you all the very best, and pray, that you will soon have the answers, that you so desperately need, about Dylan.  You will be in my thoughts & prayers.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 22, 2010, 09:41:37 PM
From the first time that I saw his charming face on posters in my area which was close to  Dylan's home, he and your family have captured my heart and my attention.  In my goings through out my City, I still check faces, looking for him.  God bless all of you.  We search for answers, and often there are not any, and that creates the greatest difficulty.  We as humans believe that there is an answer to everything, when at times there isn't. We become impatient, we want the answers now. Who, what, Where and When, and Why? Sadly, we are anxious for answers, and we place our very own lives on hold. We refuse to move beyond and forward until we have these answers. That is the way that we are. And that in itself is tragic.  Not only is Dylan a victim, but so are you and many others who love him. I pray that you can carry on, and enjoy life, as Dylan did, (re pictures and facebook).  Your prayers for the end to this mystery of Dylan's disappearance  will be answered in due time. (In that I have quiet  confidence)

Peace and courage of heart to you and to your family

JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 25, 2010, 02:22:13 PM
Did Dylan have a knickname?  If possibly, he had amnesia, would he use it?  I will await a response  from you.   If this is the case of Dylan, of which the family is depending upon.  I will go down to the homeless shelters, and search for him. I believe that the family has already searched them,. but it is an every nite thing with shelters.  I promise you that I will search down there for him. 
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on October 25, 2010, 03:26:21 PM
I do wonder why the police have not gotten Dylan's cell phone records. Actually, if they knew the company he was with, I am sure they would provide the records. Because they would want his cell phone bill paid. It would just be interesting to see when the last call was made on his cell and who it was to, date, time, etcetra.  :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 26, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
Capeheart; The last call was made to his cousin. So I am assuming that LE saw the records.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 31, 2010, 03:22:48 PM
Mousey: And Help Find Dylan Koshman. This is my plan. Please do not get your hopes up. I will run off a few posters, and speak to the people in charge of the various homeless shelters that we have here, and also post this message on their Communication boards, in these facilities, so that the men can see. Dylan Koshman, please call home.  That is all that I can do.  However, I can call every week to these places, with the same message.  That is the least that I can do.  I will report back on this website as to what I have done.  will leave a pm for mousey with contacts, re shelters, etc. which she/he can pass onto family.

Peace for the moment, at least
JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 31, 2010, 06:03:56 PM
Thanks for that, but I intend to talk to  nursing stations,  recovery centres which are set up for the homeless, as well as leaving messages every week for him to call home placed on the board. Posters do not stay up very long.   Neither do messages. it is talking to people that deal with the homeless every day that can make a difference.  This will take some time, but when I do something - I can cover more bases.  I am hoping. Thanks for your post.  The family should not expect any miracles.  It looks grim to me.  But the families pain and their steadfast belief that he still alive, well, at least I can give them some type of help.  I will keep this site posted as to what I have done in the following weeks.  If anyone else has any suggestions, please post. I am doing this for his family

Peace  JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Carol-Lynn on November 07, 2010, 05:50:25 PM
JellyBean how have you been making out with your contacts.?

It is so sad that our Adrian is no longer with us I think you and her would have became good friends.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: capeheart on November 16, 2010, 11:12:30 AM
I believe that the police should be doing a review of everything that has happened and get fresh eyes on Dylan's file. I believe that the people who were with him that night should be individually questioned again. They should all have to come in and give the police an account of what happened on the night that Dylan disappeared. Something does not add up about the night that Dylan went missing. I would like to know what is going on with the people who were with Dylan that evening. Are they all friends now? Have they all moved to other areas and have they left their forwarding addresses with the police? Sometimes if friends know something, they separate, they don't keep in touch and their friendship kind of breaks up if they are keeping a secret. I think they all should be taken in for questioning again. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on November 16, 2010, 01:44:38 PM
Capeheart:  As usual word of wisdom.  They have and continue to be questioned, and their story sticks.  But I agree with you. Something happened to him, (I gather that they had a "party", and not all present were cousins.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Carol-Lynn on November 16, 2010, 06:52:50 PM
I can't agree more There has to be someone somewhere that knows. I have to believe that the cops did get DNA from the off the crime. Maybe one day the people who did this to the family of Dylan will see there day in court.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on November 19, 2010, 01:12:33 PM
I did the rounds downtown with a friend in tow, and could not come up with anything. I intend to post the names of the shelters and stop off daytime gathering places, within the next few days.  Most of them have message boards for street people.  A family member would call, and ask to post a message on the message board, example:  Dylan Koshman please call your brother at .... (whatever it is) These messages are not kept on the board for very long, so a family member would have to continue this for sometime, with hopes that their will be a response.  Also they are not allowed to make long distance calls.  So it would have to be a local call. Don't get your hopes up, and this may be a further strain on the family member.  But, it is a source, and reaches alot of homeless people.  Many of them do check the message boards. 
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on December 27, 2010, 02:01:28 AM
Well another Christmas has past and still no Dylan.  I am hoping the city police have not given up on finding him or those who know where he is.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on December 28, 2010, 01:01:46 AM
I will call up all shelters in Edmonton, and  Post names of shelters and phone numbers, but feel that I should ask for their permission, as this will be going onto a website.  I can't foresee any problems with it, as they are in  the phone book and most have their own websites.  In Other words, it is out there, and is therefore considered public knowledge.  It took me a bit of time to figure that one out.  But still feel that I should ask their permission.  There are a number of places that have been established that are not in the phone book. Have made three trips downtown to the usual places for potential sightings and have not turned up anything.  I have a very busy life, and I apologize for being so slow on this.
At this time, since the family are still searching for him, that is the one place that I can help the family. (I have never had any contact with his family - it is just that it is the least that I can do.)

Peace
JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on December 28, 2010, 11:40:32 AM
JB You are being as helpful as anyone can be.  I only wish I could be there to help you. I am sure Dylan's parents will approve of your generous undertaking.  It would be nice to have more facts, but I guess the police need to work on those alone to nail this person(s).  It just takes so ooo long!
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 03, 2011, 09:30:23 PM
How tragic that we have nothing more to post about this young man. I have checked the shelter 3 times and nothing. I have posted the web-sites of Edmonton shelters under Edmonton.

I am posting on this today to keep his name out there!! May this family find Peace and Justice for him soon!!

What I feel has happened to him is of little regard.

PEACE
JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on June 22, 2011, 04:09:46 PM
Dylan has been misssing since 2008.
Where are the police going with his Missing Person Case!!~ Come on!! - Dylan did not voluntarily disappear. !! He was a homebody type. Stuck with people that he knew.
If he attempted to hitch hike that early morning, well --who knows? Questions remain.  Was he in any shape (after drinking)  to get to a major highway to hitch hike?
Or did he just want to get back into the house to fall asleep in his own bed?

WHERE IS, AND WHAT HAPPENED TO  DYLAN KOSHMAN?


PEACE
JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on July 08, 2011, 09:19:22 PM
Dylan has now been missing for three years!!
I hope that his wonderful family will be able to have some closure soon.
Enough is enough. :(

PEACE
JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on September 17, 2011, 10:30:34 PM
Has anything been heard about Dylan lately? Soon will be another full year since he's  been gone. i believe it would be good to re-interview everyone who was at the party that night.  I wonder if Dylan's days were traced the week before, and if anything unusual was afoot?  Any new friends?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: shlee2010 on September 19, 2011, 01:28:29 PM
To all concerned in this tragic disappearance,
I do not want to jump to conclusions or want any of the family or people thinking that I am morbid or do not feel for the family. I believe that the family wants closure and wants questions answered. I would be the same if it were part of my family or even a friend. But have the police questioned Mark TWITCHELL in regards to Dylan's disappearance? For those of you maybe not familiar with TWITCHELL, he was in Edmonton at the same time October 2008 and was just recently convicted of first degree murder of John ALTINGER. TWTCHELL lured ALTINGER in to his garage, killed him dismembered his body and disposed of same. Have the police questioned him? Although we do not want to think TWITCHELL could be involved, why would it not be a possibility?????
My prayers go out to this family.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on September 19, 2011, 02:14:14 PM
Shlee 2010. Thought about MT as well, a long time ago.  Did not want to post my thoughts either, out of consideration for the family. Still, I did take a a couple of trips to homeless shelters with hopes that he may be there. MT was within the vicinity, and Dylan was in a vulnerable state at the time.
I have always hoped that the police might have interrogated MT re: DK.

JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 10, 2011, 09:28:41 AM
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/10/09/family-holds-vigil-for-missing-man


Family holds vigil for missing man


Angelique Rodrigues, EDMONTON SUN

 First posted: Sunday, October 09, 2011 06:09 PM MDT | Updated: Sunday, October 09, 2011 06:14 PM MDT
 

Family and friends of Dylan Koshman, including (left to right) Randy Volk, Melanie Alix, Tara Koshman and Erin Huff, came out to 34th Avenue and Calgary Trail in Edmonton, Alberta, on Oct. 9, 2011 on the third anniversary of the man's disappearance to hold a candlelight vigil. Koshman disappeared in the area three years ago. (IAN KUCERAK/ EDMONTON SUN)

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Family members of missing Edmonton man Dylan Koshman held a vigil Sunday to mark three years since his mysterious disappearance.
 
“It’s so sad and frustrating that it’s been three years with no answers,” said sister Tara Koshman, 30, one of Dylan’s four siblings, through tears. “We can’t move forward, it’s like we’re frozen in time. We’re all stuck at the night Dylan disappeared.”
 
Dylan was just 21 years old when he left his apartment Oct. 11, 2008, after an argument with his cousin, and vanished.
 
For a third year in a row, family and friends from across Alberta, and Regina lit candles and prayed for his safe return on the corner of 34 Avenue and Calgary Trail, where Dylan was last seen.
 
“This nightmare just seems to go on and on,” said Dylan’s mother, Melanie Alix, who has travelled back and forth from her home in Moose Jaw, Sask., to Edmonton many times since Dylan’s disappearance. “We are praying for peace in our family, and for a little closure.”
 
The solemn group of family and friends stood in the waning Sunday sunshine to pray and honour Dylan.
 
“This is so important to the family, for us to come out here and pray together for him,” said Alix. “It’s a difficult day, but it’s good for us to do this together.”
 
Alix remains in regular contact with the police on the investigation, and the case is still considered active and open.
 
“They haven’t had any leads or tips for about a year,” she said. “Before that there were a few tips and a few possible sightings, but nothing ever panned out.”
 
Dylan’s father, Dan Koshman, 50, said he’s grateful to police for keeping the case open.
 
“We’ve been very fortunate that it is still open, they are still actively looking for clues,” he said. “This was a normal kid, he wasn’t into drugs, he wasn’t in a gang, and it’s just a mystery what could have happened to him.”
 
Alix says as time goes on, the family has begun to accept the fact that Dylan might be gone, but they refuse to accept that they will never know what happened to him.
 
“Somebody out there knows something,” she said. “If Dylan is still out there, maybe he can be returned to us. And if not, then maybe someone can bring peace to us”
 
Dylan is described as five-foot-nine with brown spiky hair and hazel eyes.
 
He has a large dimple on his left cheek and pierced ears.
 
The young man, whose 24th birthday was in April, was last seen leaving his home near 104 Street and 33 Avenue wearing jeans and white shoes.
 
Anyone with information is asked to call Crimestoppers at 1-800-222-8477.
 
angelique.rodrigues@sunmedia.ca


Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on November 27, 2011, 07:27:59 PM
Every October this family returns to Edmonton to look for their loved one Dylan Koshman. They need some resolution!!Some peace of  mind!  Why create more victims?? 

 I do not know this family and yet my heart goes out to them - it always has.

This was a young man, full of life, who just wanted to return to home to Moose Jaw, as this city, Edmonton was too much for him to take.

Please come forward if you know of anything, please call Crime Stoppers.
Someone knows. No one disappears off of the face of the earh without a witness!!

JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: VMA on December 05, 2011, 10:32:42 PM
Hi everyone, I am a family member of Dylan Koshman.
My mom and I just came across this site, and it is nice to know there are people that are out there that care. It brings us some hope to know that people are still talking about him, and that his disappearance does matter. Dylan has been missing since Oct 11, 2008 and our family has never been the same since, but we never give up hope and are always searching for any new way to find answers. I know personally I feel very frustrated and have since the very beginning. Since there are 8 pages, I haven't had the chance to read through everyone's posts just yet, but plan on it. Here are a few things that we do know;
- Dylan was living with his two older male cousins
- all that we mainly know are from the cousin's statements
- we know a fight broke at that night between them and Dylan
- and that alcohol was involved
- according to the cousins, they kicked Dylan out the house after the fight; and he walked out the back gate to never be seen again
- our family was not notified of him being missing till Oct 15,2008 by his girl friend
- after numerous times of her trying to get a hold of Dylan, and not being satisfied with the answers the cousins were giving her ( such as them not allowing her into the house the next day, and after calling the police, where she was disregarded as a 'over concerned girlfriend')
-we also know that his wallet with all his i.d. and bank card were found in the next door neighbours back yard (when the police did their 300meter search on the 6 day of Dylan being missing)
-The police did a walk through the house, but they did NOT do forensics or test for DNA
-neighbours have told us personally that they had called 911, 3 different times that night after witnessing a 'very violent fight out in the front yard' ; and that the calls were not responded to
- also what was stated on here, that his last ping showed that he was still in the area, and his last calls were to a different cousin who he tried to get a hold of 6-7 times within 3 mins
Another frustrating point is this is not a bad area of the city, it is a busy and well-traveled area, so it is hard to believe that not one single person seen him, and how he could of disappeared in to thin air.
Dylan was very family orientated and would always stay in touch with his family friends, he is not the type to just take off. He had no i.d.  and his bank accounts and cell phone records have shown no activity. We Love him and miss him, and need to find him.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: solvy on December 05, 2011, 11:07:37 PM
Welcome to the forum VMA.   Thank you for providing more details as you know them.  This case should be able to be solved, and I don't know why it hasn't.  The police must continue to be on top of all the party goer's to find out exactly who was there and what went on that night. I'm sure you are aware that Edmonton's murder rate has soared lately, making it difficult to work on older cases, as new ones crop up continually.  The family must be the driving force to keep Dylans  case alive.  I hope they are getting updates and being kept in the loop as much as possible.

Dylan needs to be found.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: SAP on December 06, 2011, 12:44:26 AM
Welcome VMA. Thank you for adding to what has been posted previously.

The girlfriend was not allowed in the house to see for herself that Dylan was not there ...

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police did their 300meter search on the 6 day of Dylan being missing)
-The police did a walk through the house, but they did NOT do forensics or test for DNA

I am appalled at this. Police would have known there was no further activity on bank account or cell phone. Did neighbors also tell police about the violent fights that night?
With Dylan not turning up, I would have thought the police would return and do forensics to rule out or in anything untoward about Dylan's disappearance.

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-neighbours have told us personally that they had called 911, 3 different times that night after witnessing a 'very violent fight out in the front yard' ; and that the calls were not responded to

That is so very unfortunate. Some police do their job and respond, and others have been known to laugh it off and go on their way. It really seems that the whole situation was not handled properly. Family really need to push for resolution since there was not much done when Dylan went missing. The poster campaign was far and wide on Dylan's missing and someone should have seen or recognized him. We had them in many stores in St. Albert as well, so that coverage was good.
I am sorry for the heartache your family is going through. We have brainstormed on here but with no active investigation, nothing will get done.
I checked back over the pages and evidently many posts have been removed. There is an interesting post a couple pages back by "HelpfindDylanKoshman" and it seems to claim, if I am reading it correctly, that there were many people at the party that night and it carried on for a couple more hours ... that we didn't have that timeline and that police were still working on the case in 2010 with interviewing. Is that correct?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on December 06, 2011, 11:01:27 AM
VMA: I have always wondered about the following;

Who reported that they saw Dylan leave through the back gate and head down the alley?
Was there an eye witness who reported this - other than the cousins?

Why would his wallet end up over the fence in a neighbours back yard? How can that be, if Dylan supposedly left via his own back yard ?

To me, these questions are crucial.
If it was the cousins, and other party goers who  reported him leaving via the back yard, and not a neighbour,  then I would question why they would say this - and question their truthfullness. After all, they had 3 fights out on the lawn.

In addition, would Dylan throw his own wallet over the fence and leave without it? I don't think so - this does not make sense.  Young men keep their own wallets close to them, in their hip pocket.

Is it possible that one of the party goers threw his wallet over the fence?
This makes more sense to me.

Why would the cousins not allow the girlfriend in the home? And why did the cousins not report him missing?
They had 15 days to come up with a story.

Somewhere on this site, a friend or family member did post, and said that the cousins have been questioned by detectives  several times over a long period, and their stories always remain the same.

These cousins and party goers may be totally uninvolved in his disappearance.

I just don't understand their actions, and lack of attentiveness and caring in the circumstances that night and the days following. Even if they were mad at him, one would think that after sobering up, they would have shown some concern as to his whereabouts.

I have a feeling that the police may have some idea , but for the moment,  they lack evidence.
I SINCERELY HOPE THAT SOMEONE WILL SPEAK UP THROUGH CRIME STOPPERS.

JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: VMA on December 09, 2011, 10:44:15 PM
The most gut wrenching fact is that it is not illegal to go missing. The fact is, a lot of things about that night do not add up (even though the cousins stories may have approx. the same time line, there are still a lot questions) there is not much the police can do without any leads.
 
‘The"HelpfindDylanKoshman" seems to claim, if I am reading it correctly, that there were many people at the party that night and it carried on for a couple more hours’ after Dylan left.

What the cousins said was there were only 4 people there & Dylan. The two cousins he lived with, one of the cousin’s girlfriend and another cousin that had come up from Moose Jaw that day. Later that night a fight broke out between the one cousin (that lived there) and Dylan. So as far as I know there was no party, and for how long it carried on after Dylan left is hard to say, since a lot things don’t make sense.

‘Who reported that they saw Dylan leave through the back gate and head down the alley?
Was there an eye witness who reported this - other than the cousins?’

There were no other eye witness other than the 3 cousins who said Dylan left out the back gate and the 1 girlfriend who was also there(who was sleeping at the time). They did not report him missing, and were not concerned when he did not return.
As for the wallet part, it does not make sense to us either. Dylan wouldn’t leave without his wallet with all his I.D. and bank cards or toss it over the fence, the cousins couldn’t clarify as to why it was over there either, they speculated that it could have been tossed into the cousin from Moose Jaw’s back pack by mistake, and that when he was chased out of the house after Dylan left it could’ve fallen out. It sounds like there was a lot of chaos.

“Why would the cousins not allow the girlfriend in the home? And why did the cousins not report him missing? ‘

Not sure. They said they didn’t know where Dylan went and weren’t concerned.

‘They had 15 days to come up with a story.”

It was 5 days not 15 when we were notified and that was only because Dylan’s girlfriend was concerned, and that is when the Police became involved.

I have trouble writing about this or talking about it without becoming extremely frustrated. I do not mean to point the finger at any one, because the facts are we do not know what happened that night. But there are just so many things that do not make sense, I think about it every day. Yes, they were drinking but still if I had a friend or family member take off after an argument/fight, or a roommate or whoever and the fact they did not show up the next day or the day after, I would be sick with worry. I’d be trying to find them, to make sure everything is okay. But they did nothing, if it wasn’t for Dylan’s girlfriend it is hard to say how long Dylan would have been missing for before we would have found out. The cousins were questioned, how many times I am not sure. But their stories remain the same.  They were asked to take a lie detector test, or be hypnotized (in case they could remember something since there was alcohol involved) but they have refused, I wish they would since that might give us some answers. People don’t just disappear, some one knows or has seen something.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on December 09, 2011, 11:54:46 PM
VMA. Thank you for responding. 
Oh my gosh, so many of we posters have been captured by Dylan's missing since day one.

I saw his picture all over the place, including a little restaurant and bar (I will have to think back to recall the name of it) where a friend of mine and I used to drop in to have a good meal. I lived in Dylan's area at the time. His poster was there and I asked the waitress if she knew him, and she said yes, that he often would come in with some friends. Nice guy, she said, and he had a great sense of humour.  He would get the waitresses laughing.  His poster was even in the front reception area of my cat's vet' establishment.

Why would they refuse a lie detector test?  Since I am not related to the Koshman's, I can say this, refusing a lie detector test places suspicion on their shoulders, and if they wish to be cleared, it would be best to take one.
It would go a long way towards clearing the air.

I often wonder if Dylan tried to get back in, as it was cold out there, and he didn't have a jacket.
I am sorrry, but there is something very fishy there.

 Where did the cousin from Moose Jaw, go after he left the house?  Why didn't Dylan team up with him? Or, were they also "not talking to each other", due to the fighting.

So many questions about that fateful night, and so few answers.

I think of Dylan's family so often - and we try our best here, to keep the public aware that Dylan is still missing - should anyone Google his name, this site hopefully appears.

He was not too far from Calgary Trail, and I have often wondered if he decided to hitch hike to his other cousin's place, or even his girlfriend's to have a place to stay.

There was one announcement on a radio program whereby it was stated that a man walking his dog around 3;30 AM saw a young man who fit the discription of Dylan sitting on the curb of the sidewalk with a cell phone in hand. It was in Dylan's area.

That is the last I ever heard of that again.

The case of Dylan missing has perhaps fractured your family, pitting one family side against the other, and if so, that would also add to the tragedy.

Keep the faith that one day answers will be forthcoming. Someone knows something, and when they gather their courage they just may come forward. In the meantime keep his name out there. Keep checking in with the police,and keep checking in here, if you feel comfortable about doing so. :)
Best regards,

JB



Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Concerned on December 10, 2011, 02:30:15 AM
From time to time, we have seen that when friends go their own ways, stories of the experience surface. The fact that one of the cousins had a girlfriend makes me wonder if any facts will ever surface when that relationship dissolves. If there was a fight, I find it odd she would sleep through it. At some point, maybe when she has her own children she will know how very precious a child's life is, at any age. Maybe she will feel compelled to let the family know, at some point, where the truth of that night lies. Sometimes it is a glimmer of hope.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: VMA on January 19, 2012, 08:06:17 PM
Please read the attachment
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on January 22, 2012, 12:37:58 AM
VMA:  I have read the attachment, and I agree with you, that a National Data Bank for the Missing should be part of our police service.  Up until now, Data DNA banks are for criminals.

My heart goes out to you and your quest for a data bank of the missing, and I hope that your successful.

 I have sent an e-mail to my Member of Parliament to back this cause. 

I cannot sign the petition because there was no place on your document to do so.

It doesn't matter, as the more voices, whatever the source, adds up.

A Dna bank saves law enforcement time and money (sadly money always talks), but more importantly, it saves families from wondering each time that they hear of remains being found, the answers can come very quickly and a some small amount resolution can come to those families  who have their loved ones identified.

There is nothing worse than the wondering, where is she/he? 

After times lapses, families change to the realization that perphaps they are deceased, and now all that they wish for is to have their remains found and to be returned home.

At this point, how they passed away is secondary.

Families want the remains  of their loved one to be home first and foremost!! The rest will follow: But to be identified and returned home to their loved ones COMES FIRST.

Please keep us informed. This matter is too important to let it slip by,
Best of wishes with your quest, and if there is anything that I can do, please pm me, and I will do everything I can do to further support you.

JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on January 27, 2012, 02:06:46 AM
And yes, VMA - the police will tell you that there is no harm in going Missing. Surely after the police have been told everything by family, and girlfriend, that his "Missing" has advanced further than that!!
If not, than it should be. 

This young man would have contacted family, and in 4 years he has not! Something is wrong here, and the family knows it.
In fact, they have accepted the fact that Dylan may no longer be part of the "living"

Time! it is time, that his disappearance is given serious consideration by the police force of the City of Edmonton.
Is this taking place?  Are detectives still working on it? Something tells me that they are. (hopefully) , However, this is  still open to question, on my part - not 100% certain.)

As a concerned citizen, I would very much like to know, where the police are in this investigation, or if they are even carrying on with one!

After 4 years, and with the cops knowing his background, one would think that his disappearance should be deemed suspicious!! - And a suspicious disappearance should warrant a full investigation.
By the way, A" suspicious disappearance" is a term  that cops use.  I have yet to hear it or read about it in Dylan's case.

Work towards that term with the City Police  first and foremost!! Get it changed from "Missing" to a "Suspicious Disappearance.

I wish you and his family all of the best in the quest to find answers.

It is time!! Enough is enough!! Patience is no longer a virtue in Dylan"s "Missing", in my opinion.
JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jobo on January 27, 2012, 05:00:11 AM
It would be nice to know exactly how much everyone did drink that night.  I know of people that partied so hard they seriously do not remember what they did the night before.  It is very possible. 
Many people become violent went drinking or doing cocaine.

Even if Dylan did leave after a fight, I would have thought he would return at some point in the wee hours of the morning. Afterall, he lived there, and I think most people would return after sobering up a touch.
 
If we are to believe that the man walking the dog at 3:30 a.m. saw Dylan, what time did he supposedly leave the house?

It has been over 3 years since Dylan's disappearance, under what I would call suspicious circumstances (who would leave without their ID?)  perhaps it would be smart to re-interview everyone involved that night.  Even ex's of those involved that night. 
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on March 01, 2012, 10:04:19 PM
http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/pages/story.aspx?id=6442592648

Mother of missing man on crusade for national DNA data bank

Patricia Kozicka, Global News : Thursday, March 01, 2012 7:02 PM
Dylan Koshman's mother;Melanie Alix;is advocating for Lindsey's Law;which she believes can bring closure to families across Canada.

 , Global News

RELATED
Mother of missing Edmonton man fights for new bill establishing DNA database

EDMONTON - For more than three years, Melanie Alix has been waiting for closure in the case of her son Dylan Koshman. Originally from Moose Jaw, the then 21-year-old was last seen October 2008 leaving his home in south Edmonton.

His family hasn't given up searching for him, but his mother is now harnessing her grief into something she believes can help her and other families in similar situations finally find peace: a DNA databank which would match the genetic information of missing persons with unidentified remains across the country.

"If Dylan was found in another province we might never know because his remains are not connected to a databank," she explains. "And this is my greatest fear: is never having closure - as probably many other parents of missing children."

Alix is trying to get as many signatures as possible for a proposed bill called Lindsey's Law, named for a 14-year-old girl who disappeared on Vancouver Island in 1993, before Conservative MP Ray Boughen of Moose Jaw takes it back to the House of Commons this spring.

She says that since a similar data bank was introduced in the U.S. in 2003, it has reportedly helped solve more than 500 cases. Alix adds that across Canada there are probably more than 600 unidentified remains that haven't been identified because they belong to people who were found in a different province than the one they disappeared from.

"That says a lot - we as Canadians need to step up and protect our families - that's what we're hoping for."

The constables who work on Edmonton's missing person's cases say there are at least 80 open files in our city that date back as late as the 1950's. They believe a national DNA data bank could help them resolve many of those.

"It'll be the first mechanism of its kind, in Canada anyways," says Cst. Sean Jenkinson, adding "it can bring a lot of closure to police agencies, and more importantly, to the families."
His partner, Cst. Jim Gurney, agrees: "They would at least have the comfort that the system is in place to work for them, to try to bring their case to a resolution," he says.

Until that system is in place, Alix says she won't give up fighting for it.

"I'm just hopeful and I'll never quit. I'll never quit trying to get this bill passed."

To sign the petition in support of passing Lindsey's Law, click on the link below
<a href="http://www.gopetition.com/petition/41301.html">Lindsey's Law - Missing Person DNA Databank Petition | GoPetition</a>

Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Concerned on March 01, 2012, 11:48:16 PM
To Dylan's mother. Thank you for your efforts in pushing for a national database. I don't think people realize how difficult it is day after day after day looking for stories of people being found, remains being found, bodies, disoriented individuals or whatever other scenario. Because families are so fearful that if we don't look, who will. If a story appears one day, and I miss it, will our chance at finding our loved one be gone? If the remains are outside of our own area, will our LE become aware to even rule out the connection if we don't bring it to their attention? So we have to look every day.

But, it is not healthy to be searching every day, for years, sometimes decades, sometimes lifetimes, looking for any trace of someone being found. After a while it breaks the spirit. The heart. And, I'm afraid that if I stop, I might miss the chance to save, or find, our love one so deeply. But do people really know how very hard it is to keep record of all these people, and follow up on every story to first find the sex, then the age range, then months later if they identified them.  And only if a reporter follows-up.

In the meantime, we keep our own records. I have a document that is 44 pages long, single spaced and it contains only Ontario. I haven't even been able to venture into the other provinces as well. It has changed my life, really. I can't even begin to tell anyone how much relief a national identification system would mean. To sleep just one day without searching for what most stories call "grizzly finds." Every day we are reminded that those "grizzly finds" belong to family, and they have a name, and they are loved. And, because you search you are aware of the very great number there are. It weighs heavy to know so many are going through what your own family is. It's quite sad, really. If they could only just put together a national database so these families can at least feel there is a chance their loved one can be located. Maybe they could start to heal, then. It would mean so much. So very much.

Thank you, in your own grief and hope, for pushing for something so important.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on March 18, 2012, 03:15:40 PM
I have always had this question; Did those who were there that night, when Dylan left, did they ever participate in searches for him?

JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: D1 on March 18, 2012, 09:58:02 PM
I am as convinced as everyone else here that something happened that night and someone knows. I suspect more than one person knows but some glue holds them and their story/alibi/excuse together. If you figure out the make up of the glue, you may be able to find an ingredient to disolve it?

The Koshman's mission is an admirable undertaking especially under these circumstances. It is tough enough just living with and dealing with a missing family member let alone trying to change a law and force an entire country to come to your aid when it should be automatic, a no brainer. Whats the big deal with our government denying Lindsey's law from coming into existance? Who wants what hidden and from whom?
see- Lindsey's law
www.lindseyslaw.com (http://www.lindseyslaw.com)

This is something that everyone can and should get behind, force yourself one last effort, one last time to see it through to the end. Judy Peterson is circulating a new message. Please download the form!
from Judy-
 
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Thank you so much for taking the time to sign the on-line petition to support the creation of a National Missing Person DNA Database.

Support is growing and now is the time to really flood them with signatures.  Unfortunately, only hard copy signatures can be presented in the House of Commons.   The family of Dylan Koshman has worked very hard to gather thousands of signatures, but we need help to really make this happen.   

Please go to our website – www.lindseyslaw.com  (http://www.lindseyslaw.com) .  There is a link to a House of Commons petition on the home page.  If each of you could print just one copy, gather 25 signatures and mail it to MP Ray Boughen at the address below (postage free), we could have nearly 60,000 signatures by the end of this month. 

 Ray Boughen, MP, House of Commons, Ottawa, ON, K1A 0A4

 I cannot believe that this has happened to Lindsey – she was only 14 years old.  If this can happen to our family, it could happen to someone you know.  Remember that if Lindsey was murdered, he is still out there.  This legislation is not just about identifying human remains to help desperate searching families – the identification of the remains is the pivotal piece of information the police require to even begin their investigation.  That investigation could lead to putting a murderer behind bars and keeping all Canadians safe.

 Please take a few minutes to print this petition – take it to work or to a social gathering and I believe they will be as shocked as you were to understand this does not exist in Canada.  Gathering signatures should be very easy.

Thanks, Judy Peterson… Lindsey’s mom

Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on March 18, 2012, 10:10:21 PM
Sad part is, D1, these folks have been questioned time and again, and the story still remains the same.
Sticking together like glue - exactly in my opinion.  One wonders why it was the girlfriend who did not live there who raised the alarm after Dylan went missing (a few days- if I am correct), that is why I asked the question if those who were present  that nite ever helped in the search for him, or took part in the Dylan Koshman memorials held  here annually in Edmonton  since his disappearance. I know for certain his girl friend did, but what about the others?  From what I gather, his girl friend was not there the nite that Dylan went missing.

JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Annastaisha on March 18, 2012, 10:12:08 PM
JB - I am willing to bet they did not raise the alarm he was missing because to them, he is not missing. They know exactly where he is at.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: D1 on March 18, 2012, 10:26:46 PM
Yep, they know imo2. There are only so many things that will keep an entire group of people silent. Fear for one, common fault another. It does not auger well for Dylan when his so called friends and even some relatives would leave him out in the cold without a word being said. 

Then the Police involved even blew it right from the onset. Dylan never caught a single break from anyone anywhere anytime. There has been a brick wall set up here. Download and sign the petition for Dylan and all the other missing persons in our country. It may be the last chance for many of them.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Annastaisha on March 18, 2012, 10:50:15 PM
signed the online one already, posted to FB and printed off the one and am harassing peeps at work to sign it
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: D1 on March 19, 2012, 12:02:46 AM
Perfect! We try to solve and find the missing persons listed here but no matter what we do none of our efforts would compare to the results that are potentially achievable by the passage of this one bill. The Koshmans know they have to pull out all the stops now and need this stumbling block removed to get there.
good stuff Annastaisha, this bill is long overdue.

JB, I know you have had Dylan in your thoughts and posts for a long time now. I watched and I know you tried, the family tried, the Police have revisited and asked multiple times, the wall of silence has held. The Koshmans are now the main advocates for Lindsey's law. For lack of any other avenue of pursuit, and believing the Koshmans may have their own non public reasons, I am in total support of their cause. It suits us here on unsolved more than most any other issue. imo.. I hope that your interest compassion and energy JB will transfer over into helping to propel this bill along too. It was defeated once before, it needs all the help that can be mustered. 

Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on April 13, 2012, 07:16:27 PM
No young man, out here in Edmonton, would just up and leave, especially when they come from home town Moose Jaw. (I lived there).

Dylan had expressed his desire to return to home. - Moose Jaw. Things were not going well living with his cousin.

He was a family boy! A 20 year old from a small city of Moose Jaw, who came to Alberta to find work and a trade.

  He lived in the city of Edmonton with a cousin, in this cousin's  home, (either rented, or owned)  to use it as a home base to find work and get a trade. That is how it works! But alas, he found a trade. While he yearned to go home, he knew that obtaining a trade was very important IMO, and although he was unhappy, and homesick, he knew that his trade (to get the papers!) could only be done here, as there was nothing for him in the small city of Moose jaw.

 Many familes do that. Work in Alberta, get a trade? Come to Alberta - and how wonderful that you have a relative to take you in while you get established.

Such great connections, are treasured by Mom and Dad's who send their sons/daughers  off to family.  The son will be taken care of, because he is with relatives. He is safe and okay??
Answer, "Yes.  We do not have to worry about our boy, as he is with Family."

Parents are hopeful for their son's/daughers future and they can sleep at night, as they are with Family!!

Since the "men" lived together, and went places together, partied together,  with Dylan, my question still remains.
Did they help in the search.  How were they when facing Dylan's family. 
Have they maintained contact with Dylan's Family, or are they dodging face to face encounters with Dylan's family?


 JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: D1 on May 05, 2012, 11:16:19 PM
The Koshmans have not given up and are now championing the cause for new  dna legislation. Lindsey's law is about to make another attempt at convincing parliament. Time to use some catch lines? the PC's love to use those themselves.  "you have the choice here to be helping the victims or helping their killers." it's time to choose sides!!

http://www.globalsaskatoon.com/mother+of+missing+edmonton+man+fights+for+new+bill+establishing+dna+database/6442559499/story.html (http://www.globalsaskatoon.com/mother+of+missing+edmonton+man+fights+for+new+bill+establishing+dna+database/6442559499/story.html)

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"Without the capability of a DNA database for missing persons, there is a huge component that is missing now."

A similar DNA database for missing persons has been in place in the United States since 2003 and was amalgamated into the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS), which allows law enforcement agencies to search the database for suspects and victims.

The American database has reportedly matched more than 500 missing people to DNA samples.

"It should be in place," said Alix. "They have unidentified remains dating back to the 1950s and to me that is so sad that for that long the person can't be put to rest and for the families that suffer through the whole ordeal."

She said it's estimated there are 600 unidentified human remains in morgues and cemeteries across Canada

Read it on Global News: Mother of missing Edmonton man fights for new bill establishing DNA database

That would sure clear up a lot of the missing persons cases wouldn't it?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 15, 2012, 07:33:10 PM
I have gone back and read everything on Dylan's thread.  Originally, everyone was hopeful, and then - no activity on his bank account and cell phone.  Reading about his little family making trips here to a huge city to look for him
is unfair, and heartbreaking !!

Something terrible happened to Dylan that night, or even early the next morning.

As time went by, the family, ever hopeful that he would be found alive, is slowly coming to the conclusion that Dylan is no longer a part of us. 

I cannot believe , as a citizen, and raising males, how law enforcement can possibly tell this family  that he could disappear on his own. Regardless If my 20 year old sons lost their temper,  and were kicked out of their residence in the cold with only a T shirt on, they would have phoned myself or another family member for help.  And help would have been quickly forthcoming, one province over or not!!

Cell phone Inacivity,  no activity on bank account.
He should not be listed under "Missing"" He should be listed under "Homicide".

If this was a female , with the above, no activity on cell phone, no activity on bank account, missing from work, missing in action, not seen after residential alteration,  perhaps the cops would have a different look at it.  But not a male?

This was not of Dylan's choice. He loved his family, and he had only one province (Sask) to get home to.
Right next door, so to speak, about a 7 hour drive.

I doubt that he would even attempt to hitch hike home to Moose Jaw, Sask.  Doesn't make any sense.
Cold in fall - T shirt only.
THIS CASE OF DYLAN KOSHMAN,  MISSING NEEDS TO BE RE-OPENED BY THE CITY OF EDMONTON POLICE FORCE!!
Under possible HOMICIDE.

JB

Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: SAP on October 15, 2012, 10:17:54 PM
I suppose that when you read back JB that you noticed the missing posts from "loving" cousins that were removed? Strange. I remember the glowing reports of the cousins ... they would never do this or that ... all those posts were removed by the poster it seems. They threw suspicion off the last persons to see Dylan. I'd like to know why they removed their glowing reports telling us how we should think or not think. Suspect? Yes, imo.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Annastaisha on October 15, 2012, 10:20:28 PM
I agree with you JB... if Dylan were female there would be much more out there. I dont for one minute believe that he just disappeared to start a new life with just a t-shirt on and not using his cell phone or his bank account. I do however, think that an accident is possible. If he had been in a fight prior and suffered trauma to the head then he could have succumbed to his injuries at some point - am not familiar with the area but are there bodies of water near by? Or within walking distance.
I havent read the whole thread recently but didnt his cell phone have a couple of pings after he left the house then nothing?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: SAP on October 15, 2012, 10:28:11 PM
This is what a close family member has to say: (from page 8
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- Dylan was living with his two older male cousins
- all that we mainly know are from the cousin's statements
- we know a fight broke at that night between them and Dylan
- and that alcohol was involved
- according to the cousins, they kicked Dylan out the house after the fight; and he walked out the back gate to never be seen again
- our family was not notified of him being missing till Oct 15,2008 by his girl friend

- after numerous times of her trying to get a hold of Dylan, and not being satisfied with the answers the cousins were giving her ( such as them not allowing her into the house the next day, and after calling the police, where she was disregarded as a 'over concerned girlfriend')
-we also know that his wallet with all his i.d. and bank card were found in the next door neighbours back yard (when the police did their 300meter search on the 6 day of Dylan being missing)
-The police did a walk through the house, but they did NOT do forensics or test for DNA
-neighbours have told us personally that they had called 911, 3 different times that night after witnessing a 'very violent fight out in the front yard' ; and that the calls were not responded to
- also what was stated on here, that his last ping showed that he was still in the area, and his last calls were to a different cousin who he tried to get a hold of 6-7 times within 3 mins

Neighbors called 3 times due to the violence and police did not send a vehicle around. The loving cousins didn't leave anyone into the house, and the LE only did a walk through, after the place was cleaned up. 6 to 7 pings within 3 minutes to another cousin ... Dylan was desperate, either due to being cold or being badly injured or both. Did he go back for his jacket since he couldn't reach the other cousin?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jobo on October 16, 2012, 03:39:59 AM
 I don't know how many people were at the house that night, but it would be a good idea if the Police re-interviewed everyone that was there.
 Some couples may have split up, someone might have a bit more info they would like to share at this time.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 16, 2012, 10:51:10 AM
Thank you SAP for  the summation, and the post made by his family.  Time and the realization that he is gone, tells me that the family members are torn apart over this.  They also have their suspicions.  These cousins refused a lie detector test, which says alot in itself.
The area where Dylan lived is a suburban area, no water, just the suburbs.
It has been four years - and nothing.
Dylan cannot be found nor traced.  What does that tell a Mother?

JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jobo on October 16, 2012, 01:30:41 PM
I took another look around the area with google-maps, and you're right jellybean, there's no waterways nearby that I thought Dylan may have gone to.
It is just suburbs.

Why oh why didn't the Cops come when called (three times) to the fight that night on the front lawn, we might not be talking about Dylan's disappearance.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Annastaisha on October 17, 2012, 08:37:20 PM
Why didnt the police respond?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: SAP on October 17, 2012, 09:56:15 PM
I have been told that police often don't bother with domestic complaints; not sure if that is really true. It may depend on the officers on at the time.
At another place, not where I live now, I had a fairly new neighbor who didn't have a phone and came to my place (the only place that had lights on late at night) and asked for me to phone the police for her b/c her husband had been beating her and he only left for a short time. I felt sorry for her and called, and was told that was not a priority. So after the boozed up man appeared at his door, the police also arrived. The woman told him that I called the cops b/c the noise of their fighting bothered me. I was scared of him and yet he came to apologize for the noise. He was also a person I blew the whistle on months before b/c of drug peddling. when he moved away for awhile I thought he was gone and then he returns as my neighbor. This is the kind of instance that make people be quiet about what is happening next door.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Annastaisha on October 19, 2012, 09:35:56 AM
That about not responding to domestics is complete BS!! Domestics are the most dangerous situations because you never know the level of anger and violence that can/is occuring. It is good to know, as a woman, that if I am being beaten on that the cops wont see that as a priority... I hope that they can look my family in the eye when they tell them that I am dead because my "spouse" beat me up and it wasnt a "priority" to them >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: SAP on October 19, 2012, 09:47:18 AM
I don't think it's all instances or all LE, Annastaisha. However I do believe there are some all across Canada who have let domestic violence slip. Some years ago in Winnipeg the same thing happened ... spousal abuse and family phoned for help and none came, and they had a murder on their hands.
It is BS. LE has a motto ... To serve and protect.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Annastaisha on October 19, 2012, 09:58:54 AM
I'm sure its not all officers or forces... when I charged my stalker with stalking (criminal harassment) I had a great constable that I spoke with.
I am hoping that someone somewhere looks at Dylans file and feels their heart tug - and sees the inconsistancies that we all see... I would love to see a relentless pursuit of the truth. Dylan and his family need justice.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on December 06, 2012, 03:40:49 PM
This is to those that know!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO4dxvguQDk&list=AL94UKMTqg-9BYN2exu6nEpyBkgH_3ObeO&index=1
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on January 21, 2013, 11:05:39 PM
Well someone or some people got away scott free.
In my most humble opinion.

I wonder what the cops think?

Do they suspect?  But todate cannot prove?

Surely they know (although they shrug and claim that everyone has a right to go missing) that deep in their minds and within their own  gut feelings that - in the case of Dylan Koshman " going missing"  was not this kid's choice?

JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: leonagleant on January 22, 2013, 12:12:28 AM
It would be interesting to know the criminal and behavioral history before and after of the older cousins. Their names should also be public information.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on February 07, 2013, 07:45:27 PM
Well here we are! February of 2013.

If this young lad disappeared of his own accord, one would think some message would have been sent to his parents!  Especially his Grandmother, whom he loved so dearly. He would have said, "Don't worry about me grandma"  I am fine. 

Guess what?  Not a peep, not a word, WHAT HAPPENED TO DYLAN KOSHMAN?

It is now about time that the police investigate again?

A young man sitting on the sidewalk outside of his home at the god awful hour at 3:00 am,  in October wearing a light T-shirt using a cell phone, by the last witness account.

Any citizen in their right mind, would not consider that this young man disappeared of HIS OWN CHOICE.

No jacket, it was cold - no way home to Moose Jaw. Best thing to do is to ring the bell and go back into that house.
He was not that stupid!! This 20 year old, being drunk, without proper clothing was indeed vulnerable!!

I hope that our City of Edmonton Police, will re-consider some alternatives in finding out as to what happened to this young man.  We have been told that those in the home, refused to take a lie detector test?  Is this true? 

Telling this family (The Koshmans's) that there is nothing "wrong with going Missing is not good enough."That was an easy way out.

 Perhaps the work load was heavy, and short staffed.  Too many other emergencies to attend to.  I would understand that.  The fact that there were many calls placed by neighbours re:  fighting in that house should ring alarm bells. 

The fact that 911 was called that nite as the fighting spilled out over the lawn, and the cops did not respond - is open to question.

I cannot second guess the reasons why the police did not respond that nite, which turned out to be the tragedy of Dylan Missing.

Dylan Koshman, only 20 years of age from a small city called Moose Jaw,  to my mind - is not missing  by way of his own decision .  He was too drunk  and even to cold to leave the area.
JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 10, 2013, 10:50:40 AM
It will be 5 years tomorrow since Dylan went missing.

Here is an update. Pictures and videos on left hand side of cbc news
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/dylan-koshman-s-family-still-searching-5-years-later-1.1927846


Dylan Koshman's family still searching 5 years later

Edmonton police are still investigating Koshman's disappearance
CBC News Posted: Oct 07, 2013 8:18 AM MT| Last Updated: Oct 07, 2013 8:18 AM MT
 

Dylan Koshman disappeared October 10, 2008 after a fight with his roommate. He has not been seen since.
 
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Five years after Dylan Koshman vanished following a late-night scuffle with his roommate, his family is still searching for answers.

Koshman was 21-years-old when he stormed out of his Edmonton home after a fight with his roommate on Oct. 10, 2008. He has not been seen since.

“It was shock, it was panic,” said Koshman's mother Melanie Alix.

After Koshman vanished, family members came to Edmonton from across Alberta and Saskatchewan to search for him.

“I was so scared," Alix said. "The next day we took off and went up to Edmonton and decided that we had to do something. And that's when all of our posters began and searching began. We stayed there for three weeks.”

'It can be a struggle. You can be in the middle of the grocery store. And you can feel like you have to go home. It's anxiety.”- Dylan Koshman's mother, Melanie Alix

The family handed out leaflets, made posters and posted billboards asking for information about Koshman.

Five years later, they have received plenty of tips, but no answers.

Now five years later, Alix said it is exhausting to continue with no idea what happened to her son.

“We don't have that final closure. And that's really hard,” she said.

“Not having closure means not being able to grieve properly if he is gone from this world and not knowing if he's suffering ... and it can be a struggle. You can be in the middle of the grocery store. And you can feel like you have to go home. It's anxiety. And that happens.”

More than anything, Alix says she hopes her family will one day find out what happened.

“I'd like this to end for all of us. I mean, there's somebody out there that might have the gift or the power to give us that closure. And I hope they come forward to do that for us,” she said.

Police investigation ongoing
Investigators have binders full of information on the case and say they have explored every possible lead.

Const. Sean Jenkinson has been working on the case for four years.

“To this day, it's gone,” he said, snapping his fingers. “I can put you down to a three or four minute window. And I don't know what happened in that window. And he's never been heard from since.”

Jenkinson said it's frustrating when long-term investigations slow.

“It's that slowdown period – when the family's calling to see what's going on and there's no new information coming in and you're trying to think of things you may have missed, so you go back and review," he said.

"That's the process we've been doing for four years. It's quite a mystery as to what happened.”

Jenkinson said police still receive tips that they follow up on. But, he said, finding missing people is a challenge.

“That's the unique thing about a missing persons investigation. It's a non-criminal event because, at the end of the day, it's not illegal to be missing.

“If someone is reported missing in one jurisdiction and then moves, through the course of the investigation, out of it – say they die – we may never put the two together.

“We've had files where the missing subject goes into the river in Edmonton and is recovered as far away as Langham, Saskatchewan – so that's quite a lot of geographic area to recover – and unfortunately the window of opportunity to recover someone out of the river is fairly small.”

Each year, EPS investigates about 1,600 missing persons cases. Of those, 98 per cent or better are solved, said Jenkinson.

Koshman's family will be back in Edmonton later this week to hold a vigil for their lost son.




Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: lostlinganer on October 10, 2013, 01:12:14 PM
My heart aches terribly for this family.  :'(
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 10, 2013, 03:09:00 PM
The following name has been brought up previously on Dylan's thread as to whether or not Mark Twitchell had anything to do with the disappearance of Dylan. see our thread on Mark Twitchell below

http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=2939.msg27641#msg27641.

Mark often worked at his film studio late at nite and into the wee hours, which was situated in a rented residential garage (he rented it from a homeowner) for his movie making.
This garage was within several km's from the home where Dylan lived.
Dylan was last seen by a passerby out walking his dog around 3:30 a.m. Dylan was sitting on the sidewalk.

Mark lived in St. Albert, a northwest bedroom community outside of Edmonton.
Yet, the garage was rented on the southside of Edmonton.

I wonder if detective/ Cpl. Jenkins ever looked into that possibility?

And I would also call for a pair of fresh eyes within the dept, to have a look at this case.
If Cpl Jenkins has "missed something" which appears insignificant, perhaps someone else might pick up on it.
We are all human, and after going over the same material over and over again, and seeing nothing significant, perhaps someone else who knows next to nothing about the case, may be able to break through that ceiling.

jb

For further info on Mark Twitchell read Last link on the Left, which carried an indepth look at the Mark Twitchell movie maker.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 14, 2013, 03:17:19 PM
There is a video on facebook Help Find Dylan Koshman. There is also one on You-tube.
The video on facebook has so many pictures of this young man.
I wish this family well in their search for him - even after 5 years.
Someone knows......................................

It is a heartbreaker.

jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: leonagleant on October 14, 2013, 07:51:01 PM
If you scroll up and re-read the posts, the answer may be closer to hand. Neighbours calling police the night he disappeared due to violent fight at the house Dylan lived in? Girlfriend suspicious of his disappearance right away and not given answers by the cousins or allowed in the house? Wallet found in neighbour's yard? Circumstantial evidence seems to strongly suggest foul play.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on February 12, 2014, 08:49:38 PM
http://globalnews.ca/news/1145538/missing-persons-dna-index-celebrated-by-mother-of-missing-edmonton-man/

Missing persons DNA index celebrated by mother of missing Edmonton man

EDMONTON – In the 2014 federal budget, the government earmarked funding for a DNA index that would help police match the DNA profiles of missing Canadians with unidentified human remains, potentially bringing closure to families of missing people across the country.

“I got pretty emotional,” said Melanie Alix, whose son, Dylan Koshman, disappeared in Edmonton in 2008. “You don’t know if it’s ever going to happen, and it’s a long road.”
 

•  Canada’s police chiefs call for missing persons DNA index as conference wraps   

 
Since her son went missing, Alix has been petitioning the government to establish a national missing persons DNA databank.

“It was overwhelming because it felt like it was falling on deaf ears for so long, and then, all of a sudden, it’s becoming part of our new budget.”
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on September 30, 2014, 06:25:10 PM
Perhaps it is because we are heading into the month of October, the month in which Dylan went missing, but I just have a funny feeling that this is the year for the Koshman's to receive their answers.  Hard to explain it.
No I am not a psychic. It is a feeling that just sits with me. Perhaps my feeling is just wishful thinking?

JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Shadow Girl on October 10, 2014, 12:12:33 PM
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/edmonton/Edmonton+police+seek+help+finding+Dylan+Koshman+years/10280577/story.html

EDMONTON - Police are still looking for a man who has been missing for six years and are asking for the public’s assistance in locating him.

Dylan Koshman was last seen by his roommates walking away from his home in the area of 104th Street and 33rd Avenue shortly after 2 a.m. on Oct. 11, 2008. Koshman had allegedly been drinking and got into an argument with his roommates and was asked to leave.

Koshman’s girlfriend reported him missing four days later. There has been no answer on his cellphone, and no activity on his bank account since.

Dylan’s family says this kind of behaviour is extremely out of character.

“We believe that someone out there knows something about this man’s disappearance,” said Sgt. Neil Zurawell with the missing persons unit in a news release.

“Maybe they didn’t feel comfortable coming forward at the time, but people can have a change of heart, and hopefully now they will. Any piece of information, no matter how small, may assist us in determining what happened to Dylan.”

Koshman was 21 when he went missing, so he would be 27 years old now.

He’s described as a Caucasian male, approximately five-foot-nine and 190 pounds, with white even teeth, short brown hair, hazel eyes, slight scars on his left cheek and left eyebrow, and earrings in both his ears. At the time of his disappearance he was wearing shoes, jeans and a dark-coloured T-shirt.

“Our family is holding onto hope,” said Melanie Alix, Koshman’s mother. “We are praying for anyone that has any knowledge or information of Dylan’s whereabouts to please contact the Edmonton Police Service. Our family longs for peace and will continue to search for Dylan until we receive closure.”

Koshman’s family is holding a candlelight vigil on Saturday, the anniversary of his disappearance. The theme is hope and members of the public are invited to attend.

The vigil will be held on the big hill at the southwest corner of the 34th Avenue and Calgary Trail intersection at 7 p.m. Parking is available at the nearby strip mall.

Police will be providing an update on the case at 10:30 a.m.

oellwand@edmontonjournal.com
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 10, 2014, 12:22:14 PM
Thank you for the article Shadow Girl.  Noted that a new Sgt is now involved.  Way to go!!

quote: “We believe that someone out there knows something about this man’s disappearance,” said Sgt. Neil Zurawell with the missing persons unit in a news release.

“Maybe they didn’t feel comfortable coming forward at the time, but people can have a change of heart, and hopefully now they will. Any piece of information, no matter how small, may assist us in determining what happened to Dylan.”
unquote:

To this person or persons, pick up the phone and call Crime Stoppers and it is confidential.  The police will never know who called in the tip!!

THEY WANT YOUR TIP - NOT YOUR NAME.

Crime Stoppers


Crime Stoppers is a non-profit organization funded by people like you.

The Edmonton Police Service, in cooperation with Crime Stoppers, is looking for assistance in solving crimes and identifying the individuals depicted in surveillance still photos. By clicking on the links to the right, you the public can view these crimes and photos.

You do not need to reveal your identity. Crime Stoppers does not subscribe to Call Display, Call Trace or tape any phone calls. If your information leads to an arrest, you qualify for a cash award up to $2,000. We want your tip, not your name.

 To provide information about  any crime:
1.Call the Edmonton Police Complaint Line: 780-423-4567
2.Call Crime Stoppers: 1-800-222-8477
3.Send Crime Stoppers a text message.
4.SUBMIT YOUR TIP safely and securely online.
5.Submit your tip using a Smartphone Application: •For information on iPhone and Android applications, please visit the TipSoft website


GO FOR IT!!



JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Concerned on October 11, 2014, 11:29:08 AM
Wishing Dylan's family and friends well on their vigil tonight.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 12, 2015, 09:04:07 PM
I have so been thinking of Dylan Koshman lately, and sure enough the family are still holding yearly vigils and keeping his disappearance in the news.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/10/11/family-and-friends-of-missing-dylan-koshman-gather-at-vigil-in-edmonton


Family and friends of missing Dylan Koshman gather at vigil in Edmonton 

 By Claire Theobald, Edmonton Sun 
First posted:  Sunday, October 11, 2015 09:24 PM MDT  | Updated:  Sunday, October 11, 2015 09:29 PM MDT 

 Koshman, then 21, was last seen at the corner of 34 Avenue and Calgary Trail on Oct. 11, 2008 and has not been seen or heard from since.

Standing on the corner where her son was last seen seven years ago, Melanie Alix made an emotional plea asking anyone who knows what happened to Dylan Koshman to come forward.

“It’s been seven years, and we’ve had no leads and no news,” said Alix, struggling to hold back tears. “My family is still struggling. Just because seven years has gone by doesn’t mean we don’t still feel the pain. In some ways, it’s worse with no answers. We can’t really say goodbye to him until we know.”

Koshman, then 21, left the home he shared with his two roommates – who were also his cousins – after an alcohol-fuelled argument.

Koshman left from his backyard at around 2:30 a.m. on Oct. 11, 2008, wearing a dark shirt, blue jeans and white sneakers, and was last seen at the southwest corner of 34 Avenue and Calgary Trail.

He hasn’t been seen or heard from since.

“There’s still nothing,” said Alix. “We just want an ending, some closure so we can have some peace in our lives.”

Alix gathered with family and friends at the spot where Koshman was last seen on Sunday, clutching candles while sharing prayers together and releasing a pink balloon into the air with his name written on it.

The vigil has become a solemn Thanksgiving tradition for the family, who despite an extensive search where they hung 30,000 posters have no more information than the day he disappeared.

“It’s disturbing, because this is where he was last seen, but yet it’s a comfort because we all came here together and we all have the same drive to find him and to pray for him and to keep searching,” she said.

Through their sorrow, Alix said the family is thankful for the time they had with Koshman and for the family and friends who have supported each other in his absence.

But for Alix, the pain of not knowing what happened to her son only gets worse with time.

Anyone with information on Koshman’s disappearance is urged to come forward or leave an anonymous tip with Crime Stoppers.

@ClaireTheobald

claire.theobald@sunmedia.ca
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 13, 2015, 02:57:14 PM
http://globalnews.ca/news/1608544/family-of-dylan-koshman-marks-painful-anniversary/

video included

jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Red Viewfinder on February 18, 2016, 04:10:51 PM
I believe the answers to what happened to Dylan, lie with his cousins.

So very, very sorry for the pain his family endures.  :'(
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jobo on February 18, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
I have to agree with you Red Viewfinder. 
I've read that he was last seen by his cousins, and also he was last seen sitting on a sidewalk by someone walking their dog.
Maybe it was one of the cousins sitting on the sidewalk, not Dylan.
Also, I would reinterview the cousin's girlfriend (who was apparently sleeping).
Wouldn't hurt to sniff around the cousins again, too.
Too bad the police didn't look for evidence of finger prints/DNA on Dylan's wallet.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Sap1 on October 09, 2016, 09:30:28 AM
We have not forgotten Dylan either. Our thoughts and prayers for the family and for Dylan. :(

Someone knows more than they have said regarding the happenings that night, especially judging by what neighbors had told police in regards the party going violent. Please have a change of heart and help this family come to some sort of closure.

 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/dylan-koshman-missing-2016-1.3798016

Underneath the soft fall of snow they stood, quietly, with their heads bowed.

Around them several candles shone a flickering light onto the pictures of a young man with a wide smile. After a few moments a blonde woman with a scarf bound tightly to protect her from the cold of Edmonton's first snowfall began to speak.

"If love alone could build a bridge we would build a bridge to Dylan and bring him back home to us. It is said that 'love is the bridge between two hearts,' tonight may love build a bridge from our hearts to his," Melanie Alix said.

Alix — standing on the spot her son was last seen — then lead the small but dedicated group in prayer.

Dylan Koshman
Dylan Koshman was last seen on Oct. 10, 2008. (Edmonton Police Service )

On October 11, 2008, at about 2:30 a.m. her 21-year-old son, Dylan Koshman, stormed out of his home after a fight with his roommate. His family has been looking for him ever since.

They handed out leaflets, made posters and, at times, posted billboards asking for information about Koshman. Eight years later, they have received plenty of tips, but no answers.

'The pain is still as strong as it was the day we found out he was gone, that is why we want peace so badly, we want to find answers.'
- Melanie Alix
To this day the mystery of what happened to him endures.

Every year, just before thanksgiving, the family and friends of Koshman make the trip to 34 Avenue and Calgary Trail to hold a vigil for the missing man. They are still looking — both for him and for answers.

"We make this trip to hold a vigil in his honour and to remind people that he's still missing and to pray to god that we find him," she said.

"The most important is getting his name and face out there again and maybe someone that knows something, that has some small memory that isn't significant to them, it would make a world of difference to the police."

Melanie Alix
Melanie Alix, her face lit by candlelight, reads at the vigil for her missing son. (CBC)

The last memory that Alix has of her son was seeing him at her birthday celebration in 2008. They chatted, he sang happy birthday to her and told her how much he loved her.

"Even though it's bittersweet I was glad we had such an uplifting conversation, even though it was the last one we had."

"The pain is still as strong as it was the day we found out he was gone, that is why we want peace so badly, we want to find answers."

Barring new information or a break in the case the group will be back next year, raising awareness for the long-lost man they miss so dearly.

"We're not going to lose hope, and we will continue to make this journey for him to Edmonton until we have answers.

"I'd give anything for it."

With files from Zoe Todd
   
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on March 27, 2017, 09:35:36 PM
Why did this take so long?  Clark is very good - can't believe why he would drag on investigating this disappearance - It has been 8 years.  Gosh, even citizens could see that something was fishy about Dylan's disappearance very early on.

I hope that Cool Cop Clark
 can solve it.

JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on March 28, 2017, 03:34:43 PM
Going back to page one of this thread, sadly all posters felt that Dylan lost his life that night - and did not go missing on his own. 

It was his gf who reported him missing a few days later.  So, any cleanup of the house would have already taken place.  Cops were not suspicious - that anything was amiss.  It has taken 8 years for the police to turn this over to homicide. 

I would like to know what the fighting was all about.  Seems to me, word got out that Dylan was going to initiate a fight with his cousin as soon as his cousin arrived home.

I think it was accidental.  One big drunken brawl.   Dylan was only twenty, and his cousins are supposed to be grown men.

The cousins refused lie detector tests - so that says alot.

Time to tell the truth - whatever the truth is........

This 8 year old secret - should be exposed.

Give Dylan's mother some peace.  She has suffered long enough.

jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on March 28, 2017, 03:38:01 PM
This is what a close family member has to say: (from page 8
Quote
- Dylan was living with his two older male cousins
- all that we mainly know are from the cousin's statements
- we know a fight broke at that night between them and Dylan
- and that alcohol was involved
- according to the cousins, they kicked Dylan out the house after the fight; and he walked out the back gate to never be seen again
- our family was not notified of him being missing till Oct 15,2008 by his girl friend

- after numerous times of her trying to get a hold of Dylan, and not being satisfied with the answers the cousins were giving her ( such as them not allowing her into the house the next day, and after calling the police, where she was disregarded as a 'over concerned girlfriend')
-we also know that his wallet with all his i.d. and bank card were found in the next door neighbours back yard (when the police did their 300meter search on the 6 day of Dylan being missing)
-The police did a walk through the house, but they did NOT do forensics or test for DNA
-neighbours have told us personally that they had called 911, 3 different times that night after witnessing a 'very violent fight out in the front yard' ; and that the calls were not responded to
- also what was stated on here, that his last ping showed that he was still in the area, and his last calls were to a different cousin who he tried to get a hold of 6-7 times within 3 mins

Neighbors called 3 times due to the violence and police did not send a vehicle around. The loving cousins didn't leave anyone into the house, and the LE only did a walk through, after the place was cleaned up. 6 to 7 pings within 3 minutes to another cousin ... Dylan was desperate, either due to being cold or being badly injured or both. Did he go back for his jacket since he couldn't reach the other cousin?


This spells out the whole sordid night, potential cover up, and cops slow to respond.

jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on March 28, 2017, 05:22:59 PM
Yes, the wallet in the backyard of the neighbours - appears to be a heave ho, after the fact.

I have always thought that Dylan tried to get back into the house, to get his jacket at the very least.  I think he did get back in - and something happened then.  By this time, his cousin from Moose Jaw had already left.  I wonder where his cousin Cameron went after leaving the house?

He would have to bunk up somewhere.

JB
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on March 28, 2017, 09:10:02 PM
I think the cousins who rented the home worked around construction sites.

That might be a good place to start to look for remains.  That was 8 years ago though.

It was a long weekend, so any late nite or early am  activity would not be viewed with suspicion.

I think with the right kind of questioning, answers may be forthcoming.  Whomever did this, may be ready to get it off of their chests.
But, it depends upon how far along they are with their lives.  Perhaps married by now and with kids of their own.   Should that be the case, it would be difficult to give it all up.

jb


 
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on March 29, 2017, 06:13:38 PM
Time to MAN UP!!

Unfortunately, this has now been turned over to homicide - so this paints a different picture as to the type of  attention paid to you by cops.

No more Missing Person detective hanging around to ask questions... it is now big league - it sits smack in the middle of the Homicide Squad.!!

Well now, you can just imagine...... 

Cops are like bulldogs - when they hone in on you - they never let go and they never give up.
May as well get it over with...... talk to a man of the cloth, get a lawyer and turn yourself in.
Spare yourself further anxiety. It will only gets worse - until you clear this matter up.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/dylan-koshman-missing-2016-1.3798016
Quote
The last memory Alix has of her son was seeing him at her birthday celebration in 2008. He sang happy birthday to her and told her how much he loved her.

"Even though it's bittersweet, I was glad we had such an uplifting conversation even though it was the last one we had."

"The pain is still as strong as it was the day we found out he was gone. That is why we want peace so badly. We want to find answers."

Barring new information or a break in the case, the group will be back next year, raising awareness for the long-lost man they miss so dearly.

"We're not going to lose hope, and we will continue to make this journey for him to Edmonton until we have answers.

"I'd give anything for it."
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Sap1 on March 29, 2017, 09:14:26 PM
Quote
Cops are like bulldogs - when they hone in on you - they never let go and they never give up.

Yep, even though they begin at a sleeping turtle pace.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on March 29, 2017, 09:34:49 PM
Sap1
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Yep, even though they begin at a sleeping turtle pace.

Makes one wonder..... if cops did make that house call, these men would have been thrown in the klink for fighting, etc...with
.. time to cool off.

Things might have been different.

However, it was a long, long week-end, no doubt many citizens were behaving  badly...... and kept too busy to respond to that call.  Tired excuse..... I know.....

Beats me as to why - they treated it - as a missing person only....... and for eight years to boot!!
They really slipped up on that one.

jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on March 29, 2017, 10:03:26 PM
Pretty basic problem arises here.  No forensics - no body - nada.  Just a hunch from homicide.

jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Sap1 on April 01, 2017, 07:12:04 PM
This case is again receiving quite a momentum. According to media, police are gaining a lot more tips recently.

Note to perps: You can run but you can't hide forever.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on April 02, 2017, 01:17:46 AM
Messages left by cops all over the place.      Something like.... We would like you to drop into the police station around 6 pm, to answer a few questions regarding the disappearance of Dylan Koshman.

-or -

We have set up  an appointment for a lie detector test on Tuesday at 8:00 a.m.  Be there!!



jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Sap1 on April 02, 2017, 01:36:04 PM
The guilty must be stressed now.  Only takes that one good lead . Le will be busy comparing what was said then and now. One small bit of information that was never revealed is all it could take.  One neighbor that was never interviewed may hold the key ? One witness that never came forward but has over the years realized they saw something that night.  Whomever knows what became of Dylan must surely be feeling anxiety.

And they should be feeling anxiety. I hope they are being totally tormented by their consciences.
I believe there is a light at the end of the tunnel now, finally.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on April 02, 2017, 02:12:09 PM
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/03/31/tip-hotline-opened-in-dylan-koshman-case

Tip hotline opened in Dylan Koshman case

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Edmonton city police opened a telephone hotline Friday to help gather information into the disappearance of Dylan Koshman more than eight years ago.

Wearing a dark shirt, blue jeans and white sneakers, Koshman, then 21, left his home in the area of 104 Street and 33 Avenue at about 2:30 a.m., Oct. 11, 2008, following an alcohol-fuelled argument with his roommates.

Koshman, who had moved from Moose Jaw to Edmonton six months prior to his disappearance, was last seen at the southwest corner of 34 Avenue and Calgary Trail.

His girlfriend reported him missing four days later.

Staff Sgt. Duane Hunter said members from homicide, missing persons and historical homicide sections were continuing to investigate the "suspicious circumstances behind Koshman's disappearance."

Hunter said recent media coverage of the case had created renewed interest leading to new information, and they hoped more would follow.

"We want to make sure that we don't miss anything," he said.

"We look at it from every angle (to) make sure we don't miss any speck of evidence and that the investigation is concluded thoroughly.

"More people should come forward and start providing the information they have regarding this case."

Anyone with information surround Koshman's disappearance may call the hotline on 780-391-5444.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on April 02, 2017, 02:45:39 PM
Ever notice that when cops begin to go down the path that the public approved of - in the first place - in this case murder ..... suddenly people talk. 

Fairly quiet prior, when cops were led to believe that he went missing.... on his own accord.

jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Red Viewfinder on April 18, 2017, 08:19:51 PM
I snooped Cameron Koshman's FB page today. Take a look. He is not exactly the boy next door. It is possible that there is way more to all of this. I wonder if there is any speculation about drug involvement?
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on April 20, 2017, 10:00:51 PM
I had a peek, as you suggested.  Let's hope that what is in Moose Jaw, stays in Moose Jaw.

jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Red Viewfinder on April 27, 2017, 05:39:55 PM
I had a peek, as you suggested.  Let's hope that what is in Moose Jaw, stays in Moose Jaw.

jb

I'm with you Jellybean!!
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on April 27, 2017, 10:31:12 PM
Red Viewfinder - Welcome to Unsolved.  I hope you find your stay with us rewarding.
The mystery of Dylan Koshman has stayed with me, since the day he went missing.


jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 02, 2017, 04:00:00 PM

And the family learned of this case being upgraded to homicide via news reports - not police.
This family has been searching for answers  for years. This does not look good on EPS, imo. Family first - Press second, one would think!

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/sister-of-dylan-koshman-says-family-has-renewed-hope-over-her-brother-s-case-1.3354929


Sister of Dylan Koshman says family has ‘renewed hope’ over her brother’s case

Published Tuesday, April 4, 2017 5:49PM MDT
Last Updated Tuesday, April 4, 2017 7:15PM MDT

Dylan Koshman has been missing since the fall of 2008, and police only confirmed the case had been taken over by the Edmonton Police Service Homicide Unit at the end of March, 2017.

That change and renewed exposure for the case has renewed hope for Koshman’s family, who hope it helps investigators find out what happened to the young man.

Back on October 11, 2008, Koshman walked away from his home in the area of 104 Street and 33 Avenue – reports indicated Koshman had gotten into an argument with his roommates before they kicked him out.
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In the years that followed, and up until 2014, police reported there was no evidence of anything suspicious in relation to the case.

Police confirmed Friday that Homicide Unit detectives had had been involved in the investigation since 2015.

“We’ve been providing direction, advice to Missing Persons Unit investigators, and we’ve also been re-interviewing some of the people involved,” Staff Sgt. Duane Hunter said Friday.

Koshman’s sister Tara said the development was a positive one.
“So this definitely is renewed hope that something is going to happen in his case,” Tara Koshman said.

The family said they heard news of the change from news reports, not through police.
“Tell the family first, our lives are not a TV show,” Koshman said.

Police said investigators from three units are now on the case: Homicide, Historical Homicide and Missing Persons, and they’re asking for tips anyone may have.

Police have set up a tip line for this specific case – 780-391-5444.
With files from Bill Fortier

Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 07, 2017, 10:37:11 AM

http://www.canadapolicereport.ca/2017/04/27/edmonton-homicide-section-confirms-additional-40000-rewards-to-help-solve-five-more-investigations/

Edmonton Homicide Section confirms additional $40,000 rewards to help solve five more investigations
April 27, 2017

Edmonton,  Alberta – The Edmonton Police Service Homicide Section has confirmed new rewards for information that will lead investigators to arrests and charges in connection to five additional homicide investigations.


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The $40,000 reward funds were confirmed and announced at a recent Edmonton Police Commission meeting. The rewards are being made available to the general public for a three-year period.

“We’re hopeful these reward moneys will be the impetus to motivate someone to come forward with critical information that will significantly advance these investigations,” said EPS Homicide Staff Sgt. Duane Hunter.

“Most importantly, however, our priority as investigators is to deliver some answers to family members and loved ones who have struggled with the nightmare of not knowing what happened to their loved ones for far too long.”

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Dylan Koshman

Dylan Koshman, 21, disappeared on Oct. 11, 2008 from a residence near 104 Street and 33 Avenue. The circumstances of his disappearance are suspicious. He has not been heard from or seen since that date. Homicide Section has since taken over the investigation.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on May 07, 2017, 11:56:40 AM
Once again, I wonder if Edmonton City Police have ever considered Mark Twitchell

http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=2939.msg27641#msg27641

as a  suspect in the disappearance of Dylan Koshman - or if they have even interviewed him.

Mark Twitchell a movie maker, lived in St. Albert, a bedroom community North of Edmonton.
He rented a garage in South East Edmonton where he made his films.

He was known to carry a goalie mask, and a taser gun in his car.  Mark often worked late into the nite and even early morning hours.

Dylan, it is believed was last seen on Calgary Trail, a main hwy in Edmonton.  Mark may have taken Calgary Trail to get to St. Albert.

If Mark stopped to offer Dylan  a ride in the early a.m hours,  then that would not be  a good thing for Dylan.

jb

Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Sap1 on May 07, 2017, 03:43:44 PM
That is a possibility too. That was before the Anthony Henday freeway so he would have made faster time using Calgary trail to Whitemud and St. Albert. He could have run into Dylan.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Red Viewfinder on August 13, 2017, 11:04:51 PM
I truly do not think that Dylan ran into Mark Twitchell that night. His own situation was sketchy enough without having to involve anyone else.
IMO this was a very rough group who were likely up to no good. I think the answer lies with the cousins. Whether or not they will ever talk, is the question.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Sap1 on August 15, 2017, 11:32:41 PM
After running through other scenarios, I agree regarding the cousins. The police probably do too but don't have enough evidence, and lost the opportunity long ago.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jobo on August 16, 2017, 06:04:00 AM
Almost nine years has passed...time to re-interview all that were with Dylan that night. 
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on August 16, 2017, 01:15:14 PM
I truly do not think that Dylan ran into Mark Twitchell that night. His own situation was sketchy enough without having to involve anyone else.
IMO this was a very rough group who were likely up to no good. I think the answer lies with the cousins. Whether or not they will ever talk, is the question.

Was Mark under investigation at the time that Dylan disappeared? Or was he still "free lancing"?

jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Sap1 on August 16, 2017, 05:15:55 PM
He was still living at his residence in St. Albert with his then wife in 2008 and had rented the garage in Edmonton.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on August 18, 2017, 06:29:13 PM
Thanks SAP. If I recall, Mark's  wife kicked him out, but since he could not afford a place of his own, he lived in their basement. Cellar dweller ..... ooh scary.

He carried the creepy goalie mask beside him in his vehicle, along with his stun gun.

I wonder if it ever dawned on the police to question him about Dylan?

The police said that perhaps DK succumbed to the elements - I doubt that - as he was surrounded by businesses and residences in the city, when he was last seen.

Or that he wanted to disappear.

I doubt that as his paycheque was not picked up - and his wallet was found in the yard of their next door neighbour.  One needs money to initiate a disappearance, and a decent jacket to wear to hitch hike.  He had a tee shirt on - no jacket.

I do believe with my heart that Dylan went back into the home, and something terrible happened to him - there in that house.

jb



Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on August 18, 2017, 09:58:01 PM
The Disappearance of Dylan Koshman - The Fifth Estate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps9771aPntE
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: D1 on October 08, 2018, 11:52:16 AM
Family speaks out...

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/a-decade-later-family-of-dylan-koshman-wants-answers-from-edmonton-police/ar-BBO5Jau?li=AAggXBV (http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/a-decade-later-family-of-dylan-koshman-wants-answers-from-edmonton-police/ar-BBO5Jau?li=AAggXBV)

Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on October 15, 2018, 04:27:07 PM
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He was living with two older cousins and his brothers Nick Koshman and Colin Demasson. They were renting a house on the city's south side. On October 11, Colin and Dylan got into a fight.
Koshman left the house and the family never saw him again

If this  group were responsible for Dylan's disappearance, surely his brothers would not be involved?


I hope that police have some info for this family.  Ten years - how cruel if someone is holding back.


jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: Sap1 on October 16, 2018, 12:11:02 AM
Iirc, the cousins came home at a point and that is when everything escalated?

Not that poly info can be used in court but at least it might help pinpoint who the liars are. Everyone concerned didn't come near to what neighbors had to say about the violence that night.
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on December 11, 2018, 03:50:18 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-police-offer-new-rewards-for-help-with-5-unsolved-homicides-1.4088536

Edmonton police offer new rewards for help with 5 unsolved homicides
 
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Dylan Koshman was last seen on Oct. 10, 2008. (Edmonton Police Service )
Edmonton police have announced five new $40,000 rewards for information in unsolved homicides, including the 2008 disappearance of 21-year-old Dylan Koshman.
Tip line set up 8 years after Dylan Koshman disappeared
Dylan Koshman's 2008 disappearance upgraded to homicide investigation
Watch The Fifth Estate's 'The Disappearance of Dylan Koshman'
The rewards are being made available to the general public for a three-year period, the Edmonton Police Service said in a news release Thursday.


Friends remember Gary Yemane for his selflessness and his role as an active member of the Edmonton Eritrean community. (Facebook)
Police hope the rewards "will be the impetus to motivate someone to come forward with critical information that will significantly advance these investigations," Staff Sgt. Duane Hunter said in the release.
"Most importantly, however, our priority as investigators is to deliver some answers to family members and loved ones who have struggled with the nightmare of not knowing what happened to their loved ones for far too long."

The new rewards brings to 36 the total number of rewards worth $40,000 each offered in connection with unsolved homicides.
The new rewards are connected to the following homicide investigations:
Dylan Koshman, 21, disappeared Oct. 11, 2008 from a home near 104th Street and 33rd Avenue under suspicious circumstances. He has not been heard from or seen since that date.The homicide section has taken over the investigation.

David Labelle, 30, was killed Nov. 22, 2014, in a residence near 133rd Street and 155th Avenue. Several people were present at the time.

Robert Loyer, 46, was killed May 5, 2016. He was found seriously injured in the area of 106th Avenue and 96th Street, and later died in hospital, as a result of injuries consistent with blunt force trauma.  At that time, several persons were seen fleeing the area where the assault occurred.

Gherezghiher (Gary) Yemane, 63, was shot multiple times May 27, 2016, while out for an evening walk in the area of Ozerna Road in northeast Edmonton. Investigators believe Yemane was randomly targeted. 


Leonardo Duran Ibanez, 42, of Colombia, was killed on Nov. 13, 2016. Ibanez was walking home late at night with a friend in the area of 119th Avenue and 97th Street when he was confronted by a group of people. He was physically assaulted and died in hospital as a result of his injuries.


Anyone with information about these investigations is asked to contact Edmonton police at 780-423-4567 or #377 from a mobile phone. Anonymous information can also be submitted to Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477 or online at www.tipsubmit.com/start.htm.

Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on July 16, 2019, 06:27:47 PM
A witness report was shown on this site, written by one of his cousins. It was hand written by him.  I cannot locate it...… is it still here?

In it the cousin said - and this is important, I have never forgotten it;

"I turned around to get another drink, and when I looked up, Dylan was gone."

and yet - in the news report, he said "I left the room to get another drink, and when I returned he was gone"

Big difference.

Yikes!!

jb
Title: Re: DYLAN KOSHMAN, MISSING OCT. 11, 2008
Post by: jellybean on July 17, 2019, 10:18:30 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/dylan-koshman-edmonton-missing-person-homicide-investigation-1.4037783

The 21-year-old moved in with his two older first cousins, brothers Nick Koshman and Colin Demasson, who were renting a house on the city's south side.
On Thanksgiving weekend, Dylan was feeling homesick. He invited another first cousin from Moose Jaw — Cameron Koshman — to visit. These were his cousins, not his brothers (clarified to correct error)

(see witness statement in the link)

In his statement to police, Colin wrote that when he got home in the early morning of Sat. Oct. 11, 2008, "I confronted them [Dylan and Cameron] and told them to leave. We argued and a fight/wrestling match broke out."
Colin went on to write that after the wrestling match he continued to argue with Dylan and told him to "get out, he didn't live here anymore. Come back and get his stuff later. He left out the back."

His brother Nick, who also declined to speak with the program, prepared a nine-page account of what happened after his aunt asked him to write it out several days after Dylan's disappearance so that he wouldn't forget anything.

Nick wrote that he heard Dylan and Cameron planning on fighting with Colin when he returned home and he texted Colin to warn him. 
After Colin came home, he and Dylan "went at it, pushing each other around. They make it to the floor and Dylan's been throwing punches and Colin looked like he was going more to restrain Dylan rather than hurt him."

Nick says that he turned around "to get a drink and when I came back to see, Dylan had left and Colin said he went out the back."

He said in a telephone interview that after Dylan was kicked out of the house, he hurriedly grabbed his things from Dylan's bedroom in the basement and went out the same door that Dylan left from.
According to Cameron's phone records, someone used Dylan's phone to call Cameron at 3:30 a.m. several times in the span of one minute. Cameron says he missed all the calls because he was simultaneously calling 911 to report that he was hiding from Colin, whom he alleges was trying to beat him up.
At least two neighbours also called 911 to report fighting, which moved from inside the house onto the front lawn.

In addition to the four first cousins, Nick's girlfriend was also in the house that night. There is no indication that she was involved in the fight.

A lot of questions here.  No mention that the fighting spilled over to the front lawn.