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Title: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: never_lose_hope on December 22, 2008, 03:04:53 PM
Taken from The NFLD Telegram

The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary is hoping that age-enhanced pictures will help to find Adam, Trevor and Mitchell O?Brien.
The RNC is working with Child Find to distribute new missing-persons posters in an attempt to solve the 11-year-old case.
The three children went missing in November 1996 along with their father, Gary O?Brien.
Anyone with information should contact the RNC at 729-8000, Child Find at 1-800-387-7962, or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS.

Taken off Reader's Digest Website

Adam, Trevor and Mitchell O?Brien, Torbay, Nfld.

Diana O?brien feels closest to her boys when she?s dreaming, and able to hold, hug and comfort them. Reality sets in when she wakes to three empty bedrooms.

Diana?s world turned upside down on November 9, 1996, when her ex-husband, Gary O?Brien, allegedly abducted 14-year-old Adam, 11-year-old Trevor and four-year-old Mitchell.
She remembers the beautiful fall day as if it were yesterday. Gary had visitation with the children on Saturdays. He called that morning to say he would be late picking them up. Diana told Gary that Mitchell wasn?t feeling well and that she thought it best he stay home with her. Gary became angry and insisted she have Mitchell ready when he got there around noon.

Gary picked the boys up at their mother?s apartment in Mount Pearl, Nfld., then called that night at around 8:30. He told Diana the children were not coming home and that the family house in nearby Torbay was rigged to explode.

?I asked to speak with the children, and he told me ?later,?? Diana says. ?I screamed at him?and the phone went dead.?

Diana called the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary. When police went to the family home, they defused a propane-rigged bomb they say could have levelled the neighbourhood. A nationwide hunt for Gary and the boys began. Gary is listed on Interpol?s web site for abduction and attempted murder.

Diana believes the planting of the explosive was Gary?s way of enabling an escape. ?He knew I would phone the police and that they?d rush to the house,? she says.

Since the disappearance, the story has been featured nationally as well as on America?s Most Wanted. Over 200 sightings have been received from across Canada and the United States. Police say some of the tips came from people who knew Gary and knew what the children looked like.

But ?we?ve had nothing where we can say, categorically, ?That?s them,?? says Staff Sgt. Robert Johnston of the major crimes unit.

One year after the O?Briens went missing, the waters off a cliff near Torbay were searched. Cars are sometimes driven over the 90-metre drop there into the ocean. The search located an engine assembly from a 1989 Ford Tempo.

The serial number matched that of Gary?s car. Because there?s no indication anyone was in the car at the time it plunged over the cliff, police still consider the case an active file.

Diana believes that, like rigging the house to explode, Gary got rid of the car to mislead police. She is adamant that the boys are missing, not murdered. She describes her ex-husband as a good father who would never physically harm his children.

?I live for the day when my boys will come back,? she says. ?That?s the day I?ll feel complete again.?

Link TO THEIR Posters

Case number:
Num?ro de dossier:    10,000-P

Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: never_lose_hope on December 22, 2008, 03:05:42 PM
I was surprised there was nothing on this case posted. Mauv, Chris, Adrian & the rest.. curious to your thoughts on this case? It was a parental abduction, the father took all 3 boys...... but I am interested in your thoughts.

Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: mauvelilac on December 22, 2008, 06:35:16 PM
I think Never that with the cars engine being found the police pretty much wrote it off as suicide. I believe they are alive. I was in Newfoundland in 2005, went to the area where the car went off and I don't buy the suicide either. A mother, deep in her heart knows when her child is dead, much less three. I see a New in the place where they are. I thought at first New Hampshire but it could be New Brunswick. New Hampshire is just over the border from New Brunswick. With my luck they could be in Ontario right under my nose.
The one thing that bothers me and I don't know if they did this in 1996 but when I went over, they took the licence plate # of my RV and my daughter's van and recorded the # of people in each vehicle. Assuming the father gave alias names, they still should be able to determine if he and the boys took the ferry, when and which ferry. I think after November 1st only one ferry runs from Placentia if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: TrialAndError on January 25, 2009, 03:18:37 AM
The only ferry that runs to and from NFLD after the end of october is the one from port aux basques. and one from lewisport to labrador. but if i were him i would have went to st. pierre being that it is owned by france and they wont share information with another country. there for he could stay there as long as it takes for the waters to calm and return to canadian soil or fly from there to well anywhere in the world.

He was smart enough to leave enough behing to buy just enough time to make it to the st. pierre ferry with the bomb and the "suspected suiside" and how many police officers would even think that he would skip the country in that manner? it makes the most sence. i mean if i just kidnapped 3 kids and tried to kill someone i would want to get somewhere that even if they did find me they wouldnt beable to touch me. The police wouldnt have had enough time to alert the ferry service running to st. pierre being that its only a few hours drive to get there as apposed to half a day to the ferry across to nova scotia and to risk getting off the ferry to a hord of cops waiting for him...just my theory....
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: mauvelilac on January 25, 2009, 12:26:59 PM
It's a pretty good theory Trial and makes perfect sense. Thank you for correcting me on the ferry that runs after October. I really couldn't remember.  So would he take the Lewisport ferry to St. Pierre or is this a totally different ferry you are speaking of and where would he have caught it?
Just wondering, if time had passed and everything cooled down could he have flown from this St. Pierre or would he have had to return to Nfld to do so?
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: TrialAndError on January 25, 2009, 01:00:37 PM
sorry the st. pierre ferry runs from a town called fortune which is just south of grand bank. im going to estimate the drive there at about 3 hours and he could have taken all the back roads through small towns to avoid any cops on the highway. and i know that from st. pierre they have a few flights back to eastern canada and im pretty sure there is an air france flight that goes back and forth.

Also as i can remember the security on that ferry is quite pathetic being that st.pierre is such a small place and has virtually no threats he could have just bought the tickets without even having to give a name, leaving him free to pass back and forth from st.pierre to newfoundland whenever he deemed necessary.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: lostlinganer on January 25, 2009, 01:09:33 PM
A lot of Newfoundlands in North Sydney and New Waterford....also in New Brunswick for that matter.  ...seeing as this became considered closed by the RNC -and it was taken off Reader's Digest Website, do any of you have pics of this missing children and their Dad?
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: mauvelilac on January 25, 2009, 01:41:31 PM
They have a facebook group Ling.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/group.php?gid=13630588125

You'll find pictures there.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: lostlinganer on January 25, 2009, 03:07:47 PM
thanks mauve; ...looking for age enhanced pic.... newfoundlanders usually keep the accent (as Capers do) - you know there's one near by their voice.... so I would like to see some photos in case I hear a Newfoundland accent near by anywhere I'm out to.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: lostlinganer on January 25, 2009, 03:18:06 PM
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=13630588125#/photo.php?pid=2699682&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=13630588125&aid=-1&id=703080502&oid=13630588125
(sorry; I spelled O'Brien wrong when saving the photo.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: lostlinganer on January 25, 2009, 03:24:54 PM
added to their facebook page by:  Shannon Budgell Tansley
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2699681&op=1&o=all&view=all&subj=13630588125&aid=-1&oid=13630588125&id=703080502
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: lostlinganer on January 25, 2009, 03:33:26 PM
Actually; Readers Digest is still displaying this.
http://www.readersdigest.ca/mag/2002/04/help_us.html
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: mauvelilac on January 25, 2009, 03:49:47 PM
I feel sorry for these boys to be raised by a father capable of doing what he has done. What kind of example has he set as a parent? What must they think of their poor mother who has been missing them this many years. I hope they didn't grow up to be as hateful and vindictive as their father was when he took them from their mother and created all that diversion. This man needs to be found and pay for his, non-custodial parental kidnapping and the bomb diversion. 
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: lostlinganer on January 25, 2009, 04:28:00 PM
mauve; I've written the creator of the facebook page; i'm trying to find a picture of the heartless jerk that calls himself "a father" do I can study his face....and post it for others to see.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: never_lose_hope on January 25, 2009, 07:18:26 PM
Hey thanks for getting the discussion rolling on this one, it's pretty hard to find a lot of info on it. I've read the articles I could find... done my facebook version of research hoping the boys are still alive and discovering all the things people their age are into like facebook... I am always waiting for one of these missing kids we talked about to turn up.... with no idea they are being looked for the way they are you know? ... I can't imagine how the poor mom feels.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: Shelly Stokes on May 04, 2009, 06:55:04 AM
mauve; I've written the creator of the facebook page; i'm trying to find a picture of the heartless jerk that calls himself "a father" do I can study his face....and post it for others to see.

(http://) Pic of Gary O'Brien
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: lostlinganer on May 04, 2009, 09:16:50 AM
thanks Shelly....wonder how long ago that pic was taken of "dear Dad"
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: Shelly Stokes on May 04, 2009, 09:19:39 AM
thanks Shelly....wonder how long ago that pic was taken of "dear Dad"

That was posted by RNC when they went missing.  I believe it is the only picture available, to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: never_lose_hope on May 04, 2009, 12:07:57 PM
That's definatley the only pic I've seen sleuthing.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: KTiller on November 08, 2009, 12:57:35 PM
My only problem with all of this is the age of the boys...you would think that a 14 year old boy could somehow find a way to contact his mother if he could and now he is 25 certainly old enough and strong enough to over power his father. Even at age 14, he wasn't with his father long enough for him to have convinced him that they belonged with him and not their mother.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: history_major on May 03, 2010, 06:35:27 PM
Perhaps the lack of contact from the boys being older is due to a story told to them by their father?  Something along the lines of that they aren't wanted anymore by their mother, or worse, he made the boys believe their mother is dead.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: capeheart on May 03, 2010, 08:12:23 PM
History-major, I have always thought so much about this case. A long time gone and no contact with the boys. The boys were 14, well at some point in time they would be able to get to a phone without their father and call their mother. I do not believe that they are alive. My feeling is that either by accident or by murder/suicide that Mr. O'Brien drove off the cliff. He did do something violent and who knows what state he was in. He definitely would need his car to get to where he was going. He would have to have met up with someone to give him another car. He surely would not have gotten off of Newfoundland, because the ferry in North Sydney would have been alerted and the police would have been there. Even if they walked off the boat. The captain of the ferry would have been able to know if they were aboard before the boat even docked. He could have looked at faces and so on and known if they were on the ferry. I don't think they are alive. If he put his car over a cliff and just started walking, well obviously you've never been to Newfoundland. It would be a long stretch possibly before you would come to anything. No, I don't think they are alive today at all. Because the children would be old enough to know they were from Newfoundland and I am sure there was more then their mother that they remember. I would like to think they are alive, but knowing the circumstances, I don't believe they are alive.8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) I opened this up and modified it a bit, because someone posted relating to the St. Pierre ferry. Well if they went to St. Pierre, they would have been found in a heartbeat. Most of the people there speak French and also, it is a very small island and they certainly would not be able to hide there. They would be able to fly out of St. Pierre, but then what kind of money did he have??? I don't see anything here related to how he was able to survive with three children, what funds did he have? Also, did he ever have a CC and was his bank account accessed at all???? These are the two things that could really put a big light onto the case. I don't know of any of those details.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: history_major on May 14, 2010, 08:49:47 AM
Very true points cape, I just like to think that a father would not murder is three boys...but time and time again we see parents commit horrible acts against one's own flesh and blood.  Any idea why no bodies have been found?  Four bodies are certainly a lot to hide...the car was found in the water...is it possible for the bodies to have left the car at some point...or did he ditch the car and take the boys elsewhere for the murder suicide...
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: capeheart on May 14, 2010, 02:41:44 PM
History-Major, I would suspect that they may not have had seatbelts on. This car was dumped into the ocean, so this would be the rugged altlantic ocean and it was coming on winter. This was in November and it was coming on winter. We get very bad storms on the ocean and especially in Newfoundland. There would be a great deal of rushing waters and I do suppose any trace of them would have been washed out to sea, especially if they did not have seatbelts on. This man had very violent tendancies. The fact that he set an explosion to take place in his home, this guy was in a rage and was not responsible for anything he did. He would have possibly wiped out a neighbourhood by his actions in setting up a bomb in the home. The boys were old enough to phone home and they were never heard from again.  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: history_major on May 15, 2010, 09:00:04 AM
I must have missed the line about the body of water being about the ocean.  In that case, I fully agree with you...but if they did not have their seatbelts on...how do you convince a 14 and 11 year old boys to NOT wear their seatbelts?  Either way, its good to see the mom holding out hope and not giving up.  Who knows, perhaps this man is smarter than we are giving him credit for and is able to appear to have killed himself with his kids when in fact is living out a new life somewhere.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: Rhino on September 05, 2010, 09:33:27 AM
My 2 cents worth.......I also believe that they are deceased, I was part of the dive crew who recovered the engine of Garys vehicle off Red Cliff, the front section from the firewall forward was also there but not needed for ident purposes, the rest of the vehicle couldn't be located....we used an ROV to check the deeper water,  The impact with the water from a several hundred ft drop would be extremely violent...destroying said vehicle and all in it. Note: the vin # on the engine identified the vehicle as beloning to Gary O'Brien...end of story.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: amIam on September 05, 2010, 01:48:29 PM
Rhino, welcome, it's so nice of you, a person directly involved with the recovery of Gary O'Brien's car engine and VIN# identification to come forward.

My 2 cents worth.......I also believe that they are deceased, I was part of the dive crew who recovered the engine of Garys vehicle off Red Cliff, the front section from the firewall forward was also there but not needed for ident purposes, the rest of the vehicle couldn't be located....we used an ROV to check the deeper water,  The impact with the water from a several hundred ft drop would be extremely violent...destroying said vehicle and all in it. Note: the vin # on the engine identified the vehicle as beloning to Gary O'Brien...end of story.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: Chris on September 05, 2010, 09:50:49 PM
yeah that is probably right.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: capeheart on September 06, 2010, 05:33:53 PM
Rhino, I just noticed your post today. Yes, it is definitely my opinion and feelings that all of those people died in the vehicle that went over the cliff. This man was in a violent rage when he carried out his actions on that day. So horrific and mind boggling to think that any one person could have that much anger and rage in them to set a bomb and then take all of his children with him and drive off a cliff. Chilling and horrible for the people that were left behind.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: capeheart on September 08, 2010, 11:51:38 AM
Chet, we did point out to you several reasons that we do believe they were in the vehicle. He would have to have another vehicle and there was no information on that? He would have to be able to get on the ferry to North Sydney and evade being seen with his three children? And if he tried to separate them, they would be able to go for help because they knew he was violent? The captain and stewards would see every person that leaves that boat if they are looking for anyone. And the police would be there waiting for the ferry to land. The police would have been there and witnessed everyone who left the ferry and would have recognized them for sure. More then once people have been arrested coming off the Newfoundland ferry. And Chet, have you ever been to Newfoundland??
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: capeheart on September 08, 2010, 04:38:02 PM
Chet, I know we all have our feelings and opinions and that is what we are all about. So it would be great if it was true that they were okay, but I don't hold any hope of that. ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: cana_nomad on December 02, 2012, 09:25:28 PM
One of my Newfie friends brought this case up and I found the following.  Thoughts?

Ontario police trying to refresh O'Brien lead
Last Updated: Thursday, April 22, 1999 | 5:34 AM ET
CBC News

The mystery of Gary O'brien and his three missing children has moved to Ontario
In November 1996, O'Brien disappeared with his three boys from their home in Torbay. Now police in Thunder Bay Ontario are desperately trying to find a woman who may lead them to the missing family.

Last year Child Find Canada received an anonymous tip from a woman in Thunder Bay. She recognized pictures of the boys on a visa bill.

Detective Constable Don Hurd says the caller identified herself as a babysitter who had taken care of the boys. Hurd says the woman knew some family-related details, such as one of the boy's nicknames.

Thunder Bay Police have been trying to find her, O'Brien and the children. Hurd says investigators have exhausted all possible angles, so they are going public in hopes of finding the woman.

They've also contacted law enforcement officials across Ontario in case O'Brien is still in Thunder Bay and plans to flee.


This was from 1999.  She seems pretty certain it was them.  If they are alive, this guy is one hell of a hider.  How do you conceal four people?
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: eyeswideopen on December 03, 2012, 02:31:18 PM
Actually at that time it would have been reall easy to hide in Thunder Bay.  I moved up there prior to that, and while moving lost my two kids ID including their health cards.  I had no trouble registering them in school with out any id, .  Thunder Bay back then was a bit behind times so it would have been quite easy to be living openly in Thunder Bay and not be noticed what so ever.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: cana_nomad on December 03, 2012, 10:03:19 PM
Given that she knew one of the boy's nicknames (which was not made available to the public) I am wondering why nothing has been heard about them since 1999.  It's weird- I could see them all dying the first day OR still hiding, but I can't see them being hidden until 1999 THEN harmed after.  So, if this was them, then where in the world are they now?  could they still be in Thunder Bay?  They would all be well into adulthood now, and from what eyes just said, it's easy to register kids there (such was the case in Edmonton too...random...) in school.  Also, I think a lot of these non-custodial parents get away with this stuff for so long because they claim to be/are homeschooling, which I think needs to be looked into by local authorities more.

So, if they ARE alive, I am thinking the father might have relaxed his grip on them a bit because of their ages.  I can see the 5 year old (now 21) being completely brainwashed because he was so young when he was taken.  It could be that the father threatened to harm him if the older boys spoke up.  Who knows.  It could also be that they received no schooling and turned to alcohol and drugs/life on the streets, dispersed from each other.  I often wondered how many of my shelter clients over the years could be possible cases of abduction.  We would have people with no ID and no family just show up.

Things just aren't adding up here.  Why would he plant a bomb in order to distract police while he disappeared if he was just going to kill them?  Wouldn't he just take the boys out for a drive during visitation and murder them that way?  It just seems his plan was too elaborate if murder was the goal.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: leonagleant on April 01, 2013, 10:28:47 PM
And why plant a bomb? That is not at all within the range of normal behavior. We are talking about a seriously disturbed person who should have attracted some attention throughout the years if he is in hiding.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: Besani on April 02, 2013, 10:48:34 AM
Is there anyone here that lives in Newfoundland that could possibly take a picture of the cliff where they found the car?
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: October on January 29, 2015, 03:21:51 PM
My Father knew Gary O'Brien... Don't hold it against him. We also lived near by the mother.

I don't have much to add to your discussion but this.

3 of Gary O'Brien's close friends committed suicide in the years following the disappearance. Coincidence? Maybe. Guilty Conscience? Just as possible.
Whether they knew the Fate of the 4, or aided them in disappearing I can't say. Maybe the men taking their lives had nothing to do with this case, but it's makes you wonder.

Take from that what you will.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: cana_nomad on February 09, 2015, 09:29:24 AM
Hi October,

That is very interesting isn't it?  Of course, it could be anything.  Often times it is theorized that suicide is almost contagious in people who may have been masking depression.  One person finds a way out and it becomes easier to lose yourself to that, as it were.  But yes, it could be guilty conscience.  Or fear of the law.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: coldwinters on January 27, 2017, 03:59:21 PM
NTV news mentioned the O'Briens tonight on the evening news. They said it is believed they may be living in the USA. NTV didn't give any evidence or reason as to why they are believed to be in the USA.

Does anyone know of any evidence to suggest the O'Briens may be living in the USA?

I believe I wrote here before that I think the father killed the 3 boys here and none of them ever left the island.
Title: Re: Adam, Mitchell & Trevor O'Brien Abducted & Missing since Nov 09, 1996
Post by: Elle on February 04, 2017, 12:29:25 PM
This came across my facebook today and I did a share and read a few newspaper articles. If their mother believes that the father could have taken them to a cult environment to live, then there are certain cults that show pictures of members i.e. New Vindraban in West Virginia (I did some snooping). Perhaps they could view the pictures and look for people resembling her sons or the father? Just a thought.