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Title: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on December 28, 2007, 07:52:45 PM
I guess his trial is opening in February, so I guess we may as well start a new thread about that. More stories will be coming up in the news I am sure. Also, I hope more charges and or arrests.
Title: Re: Thomas Svleka Trial
Post by: Adrian on December 29, 2007, 02:54:17 PM

 8) >:( >:( >:( :'( :'( :'(

Good thinking Chris!! Now we just may get some answers.


Like how long was Theresa Innes kept in his truck, up in High Level? He was seen with her, in a motel, and I think they hung out a bit. Then we got that Dale Havenclser(sp), sorry going by memory here.What happened to him, and his Motor home?

There is more, lot's... When he and that gal he was supposedly with, tripped over Rachel Quinney's body. why did he wait three days to call the cops. What happened to the gal in his vehicle? Is she still running? He said they had a disagreement, and she ran!!! ::) ::)

When his sister turned him in, he was arrested, and charged with the murder of Theresa Innes. Why not Rachel too. It took a long while for him to be charged with her death.Rachel was mutilated, was Theresa Innes? Was her body whole, in the hockey bag?

He made the infamous SSSSSHHHHHHhhhhhhhhh.sign, at his court appearance. Was he telling his friends, he would keep quiet, or them to keep quiet. Both?

Would like to know if he was ever at the farm, and who he was friends with.

Who did he hang out with here in Edmonton? Where did he hang out? Is he part of a group, of travelling killers? By the way of deaths around here, there are many different, methods of killing. So far, we got beatings, chopped up, mutilated, burned., and some we know nothing about, yet.

I heard in the paper that he whined like a sick cat, when he was beat up 3 times in the slammer, and was very smug in being put in PC.

I was told by someone on this board, that he asked her to smoke crack with him. This was on 118 ave., and she didn't.Were they both strangers? ??? Had he seen her before, or was this a stranger meeting.Did he stalk his victims?This gal was pretty lucky.

I am hoping for more arrests also, and more than a few.The sk's running around , need to be locked up, 24/7.Those who knew stuff or witnessed killing, should give it up, even if they were just watchers.They became part of the crime by being there, whether by coercion, or to scare them.It goes on and on and on!

I also want to know if the gals were targeted. Why? For what reason?

Let us hope we get some answers.Mean while stay safe! I think a lot of these killings, are being in the wrong place, at the wrong time.Then I think, no, these women pose a threat to them, and then we got the sexually, sadistic, maniac, who will not stop. Why? He can no longer contain himself, he sees, he wants, he gets.Bet he goes back to the scene of many killings, and knows where a lot of missing are.

These creeps find each other, as long as they are out there, the carnage will not stop. Think...the crimes were not front page news, untill, bodies were being found in backyards, of affluent Sherwood Park. >:( >:( >:(



Title: Re: Thomas Svleka Trial
Post by: Chris on December 30, 2007, 12:47:29 PM
Good questions. I just hope all these questions and more are answered. Chances are, he will not testify, so best we can hope for is the police presenting the facts and we get our answers.

Most importantly, I want to know who may have helped.
Title: Re: Thomas Svleka Trial
Post by: kindheart on January 02, 2008, 05:35:32 PM
I was told by someone on this board, that he asked her to smoke crack with him. This was on 118 ave., and she didn't.Were they both strangers? Huh Had he seen her before, or was this a stranger meeting.Did he stalk his victims?This gal was pretty lucky.


What! :o :o I would like to hear more on this story if they are here and want to tell us? Did he just walk up and say "hey there you wanna smoke some crack?"  :o :o :o  They are very lucky considering his alleged crimes. :-\
Title: Re: Thomas Svleka Trial
Post by: Adrian on January 17, 2008, 07:26:00 PM


  Svekla:::

I just received this news, and here it is. In the trial, the talk with the undercover cop in jail, won't be allowed, as evidense, nor some of the questions, when he was interrogated.

Being part of the investigation, why isn't what he said allowed??? He answered the questions, but they are not allowed to be used!!! >:( >:( >:(

 Svekla!!!!!                       

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Better start , by giving up some names, as I for one do not believe you acted alone, and you probably have info on lot's of killings.
Title: Re: Thomas Svleka Trial
Post by: kindheart on January 17, 2008, 09:58:32 PM
Adrian, I read that too! Lots more to come. HOLY!!! 7 OTHER MURDERS!!  The answers are coming for some of the families ;D ;D ;D

Judge describes gruelling interrogation of Svekla

Some of accused killer's statements admitted heading into Feb. 19 trial
Karen Kleiss, edmontonjournal.com

EDMONTON - An Edmonton judge has ruled that some - but not all - of the statements alleged prostitute killer Thomas Svekla made to police during three days of gruelling interrogation will be admissible at his trial.Most of the statements were given voluntarily during more than 20 hours of intensive questioning, when Svekla was "jovial" and "animated" and "willingly ignored" legal advice, Court of Queen's Bench Justice Sterling Sanderman ruled this morning.

However, Svekla invoked his right to remain silent after he learned he was a suspect in seven other murders and spoke in person with his lawyer, Sanderman said. Police pressed him too hard, Sanderman ruled, and some of Svekla's statements were therefore not voluntary and will not be admissible at his trial, set to begin Feb. 19.The content of Svekla's statements is protected by a publication ban. The Journal and other media organizations are scheduled to argue for access to the video and audio tapes of the interviews later this month.

Svekla, 39, faces two second-degree murder charges in connection with the deaths of Rachel Quinney, 19, and Theresa Innes, 36. Quinney's body was found in a rural stand of trees in June 2004; Innes's body was found in a hockey bag in Fort Saskatchewan nearly two years later.Sanderman's decision gave the public some insight into the intensive interview process Svekla underwent at the hands of veteran interrogators who had developed a strategic plan to get information out of him.They were by turns friendly and confrontational, called him a liar and encouraged him to be a man and take responsibility for his actions, Sanderman said. They put undercover officers into his cell, Sanderman said, including one posing as a psychic healer who only wanted to help him deal with his inner demons.

kkleiss@thejournal.canwest.com

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=563f4880-be9e-4f26-a9c4-666863f09fc2&k=94197



Title: Re: Thomas Svleka Trial
Post by: Carol-Lynn on January 18, 2008, 09:43:30 AM
By TONY BLAIS, COURT BUREAU
 

Thomas Svekla
Oppressive interrogation techniques by the RCMP have resulted in statements made by accused prostitute killer Thomas Svekla being excluded as evidence in his trial.

In a ruling yesterday, Court of Queen's Bench Justice Sterling Sanderman said three sets of statements made by Svekla are inadmissible due to constitutional violations.

TACTICS QUESTIONED

Two of the sets are brief and stem from police questioning Svekla after he became a suspect in other serious crimes without giving him an opportunity to call a lawyer.

However, the final Charter breach came on the third consecutive day of interrogation at the Strathcona County RCMP detachment when Mounties went hard at Svekla for seven hours using "aggressive and unrestrained" tactics, despite his insistence that he no longer wanted to talk.

Sanderman ruled Svekla's "will was overridden that day" and therefore any statements he made were involuntary.

 
 
The judge noted there was a "marked difference" in the interview room that afternoon and said police made it clear they were going to "ignore" Svekla's requests to be returned to his jail cell and continue to question him. He said Mounties, who were earlier friendly with Svekla, became "louder and more aggressive" and the seating setup made it seem like Svekla was "surrounded."

The police also began to "toy" with Svekla for the first time. He asked to see a newspaper, which they initially agreed to provide, but then later denied him access to one.

"An aspect of meanness, an aspect of taunting is introduced that day," said Sanderman, adding one senior cop was "extremely aggressive" and "condescending" to him.

"He belittles him and is somewhat nasty with him."

And even after two officers conceded it had been a long day for everyone, Svekla was questioned two more hours.

The judge said some of the tactics used included telling Svekla to "be a man and take responsibility for his actions" and officers acting like "psychic healers who wanted to help him with his demons."

GRUELLING INTERROGATION

Many other statements made during the gruelling May 2006 interrogation were ruled to be voluntary and will be admissible at Svekla's trial, which is set to begin Feb. 19.

The content of all of the statements is under a publication ban pending a hearing with media lawyers on Jan. 31.

The 39-year-old mechanic is charged with second-degree murder and interfering with a human body in the slayings of Rachel Quinney, 19, and Theresa Innes, 36, in 2004 and 2006, respectively.

Svekla is the first person to be charged by Project KARE, an RCMP-led task force investigating the deaths and disappearances of people who lead high-risk lifestyles, including more than a dozen Edmonton-area prostitutes.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Alberta/2008/01/18/pf-4779734.html

Is anyone alce going to the trial. 8)
Title: Some Caselaw for Svekla trial reference.
Post by: kindheart on January 18, 2008, 12:01:05 PM
This is an incomplete but useful list that i thought would be a good reference for all of us to have handy. This trial promises to be full of maneuvers on behalf of all parties.

~kindheart

Supreme Court of Canada case law concerning police powers of investigation

http://www.legislationline.org/legislation.php?tid=155&lid=2700&less=false

Confession to an undercover police officer


R. v. HEBERT [1990] 2 S.C.R. 151
The use of an undercover police officer to [i]actively elicit information from a detained suspect[/i] to subvert the suspect's choice not to make a statement to the police, violates the right to remain silent.
R. v. LIEW [1999] 3 S.C.R. 227
Subterfuge, in and of itself, by the police, does not violate the right to remain silent. It is the act of interrogating the accused or eliciting information from the accused, with a view to subverting the right to silence, which violates the right to silence. The accused does not have to assert his right to silence in order for the right to apply, or for subversion of the right to occur.

Confession to a police agent
R. v. BROYLES [1991] 3 S.C.R. 595
The use of a police agent to actively elicit information from a detained suspect to subvert the suspect's choice not to make a statement to the police, violates the right to remain silent.
 
Appropriate police perseverance in questioning a person not detained
R. v. HICKS [1990] 1 S.C.R. 120
Although having expressed the desire not to make a statement to the police, a person who is not detained may nevertheless be further questioned by the police without this being a violation of the right to remain silent.
 
Conscriptive versus non-conscriptive evidence
R. v. STILLMAN [1997] 1 S.C.R. 607
Evidence is conscriptive when an accused, in violation of his rights, is compelled by the state to incriminate himself by means of a statement, the use of the body or the production of bodily samples. Its admission may render the trial unfair.
R. v. STILLMAN [1997] 1 S.C.R. 607
Derivative evidence refers to the evidence which has been discovered as a result of conscripted evidence, as where the discovery of the murder weapon (derivative evidence) was the result of the accused's coerced confession (conscripted evidence). Its admission will render a trial unfair unless the Crown can demonstrate that the evidence would have been discovered in any event either because an independent source for the same evidence exists or because its discovery was inevitable.
R. v. BURLINGHAM [1995] 2 S.C.R. 206
Where the derivative evidence would not have been found but for conscripted evidence (i.e., information leading to it which was obtained in violation of the Charter), the derivative evidence will be inadmissible.
 
Police-informer privilege
SOL. GEN. CAN. et al. v. ROYAL COMM. (HEALTH RECORDS)
[1981] 2 S.C.R. 494
As a general rule, based on public policy, peace officers cannot be compelled by courts or tribunals to disclose the identities of persons, to whom an assurance of confidentiality was given, from whom they have obtained information while acting in the course of their duties in connection with the investigation of crime or national security. Exeception: The rule does not apply when, in a criminal prosecution, the informer's identity is necessary for the defendant to establish his innocence.

Paid Informants
R. v. DIKAH [1994] 3 S.C.R. 1020
[confirming 89 C.C.C. (3d) 321 (Ont. C.A.)]
An arrangement whereby payment in full to a police agent is made conditional on the laying of charges does not amount to an inherent abuse of process, nor does it, in and of itself, discredit the agent as a witness.

Jailhouse Informants
R. v. BROOKS [2000] 1 S.C.R. 237
The fact that an informant is a "jailhouse" informant will not in and of itself discredit that informant as a credible witness.
 
Basic principle of admissibility of  Statements/ Confessions
R. v. BOUDREAU [1949] S.C.R. 262
To be admissible against the accused, a statement made by the accused to a person in authority must be made freely and voluntarily. A statement is not voluntarily made if it has been obtained from the accused either by fear or prejudice or hope of advantage exercised or held out by a person in authority.
R. v. HODGSON [1998] 2 S.C.R. 449
To be admissible against the accused, a statement made by the accused to a person in authority must have been made voluntarily and must be the product of an operating mind.
A "person in authority" is a person who is formally engaged in the arrest, detention, examination or prosecution of the accused, and includes any other person whom the accused reasonably believes is acting on behalf of the police or prosecuting authorities and could therefore influence or control the proceedings against the accused
R. v. OICKLE [2000] 2 S.C.R. 3
There are two elements to the confessions rule: in order for the confession to be freely and voluntarily made, it must not be induced by any threats or promises, or by an atmosphere of oppression, or by trickery that shocks the community, and it must be the product of an operating mind capable of deciding between alternatives. Statements made as the result of intimidating questions or of questioning which is oppressive and calculated to overcome the freedom of will of the suspect for the purpose of extracting a confession, are inadmissible.

Timidity of the suspect
R. v. HOBBINS [1982] 1 S.C.R. 553
The state of mind of the suspect, and an atmosphere of oppression created by the police in the circumstances surrounding the taking of a statement, are relevant to the admissibility of a statement made to the police after interrogation. However, the suspect's own timidity or subjective fear of the police will not make his confession inadmissible unless there are external circumstances brought about by the conduct of the police that can be said to cast doubt on the voluntariness of a statement or confession, or there are other considerations affecting the suspect that justify doubt as to the voluntariness of the statement/confession.

Insanity/unstable character of the suspect
R. v. NAGOTCHA [1980] 1 S.C.R. 714
Inculpatory statements made by an insane person are not automatically inadmissible, because the fact that a person is insane does not necessarily preclude the possibility of making a statement freely and voluntarily.

Prior inadmissible statement
R. v HOBBINS [1982] 1 S.C.R. 553
There is no presumptive tainting of a second statement merely because a prior statement taken by the same interrogative officers is ruled inadmissible. Factual considerations govern, including similarity of circumstances and of police conduct, as well as the lapse of time between taking of statements.
 
Prior inconsistent statements
R. v. B. (K.G.) [K.G.B.] [1993] 1 S.C.R. 740
Where a major crime such as murder is being investigated, the testimony of a witness is important to the Crown's case, and the character of the witness suggests that precautions be taken to ensure the reliability of the statements taken by the police from that witness, the police should explicitly warn the witness of the severe criminal sanctions for the making of a false statement and then have the witness make his/her statement under oath, solemn affirmation or solemn declaration, and the statement should be videotaped in its entirety.
 
Right to disclosure: Crown obligation to disclose fruits of investigation
R. v. STINCHCOMBE [1991] 3 S.C.R. 326
The Crown has a legal duty to disclose all relevant information to the defence
Therapeutic records (including medical, counselling, and school records)
R. v. O'CONNOR [1995] 4 S.C.R. 417
Even private or confidential documents such as therapeutic records, that are in the possession of the Crown, must be disclosed to the defence.
 
Wiretap packets
R. v. GAROFOLI [1990] 2 S.C.R. 1421
R. v. DURETTE [1994] 1 S.C.R. 469
When determining whether the contents of wiretap affidavits should be disclosed to an accused, full disclosure is the rule subject to certain exceptions: to justify non-disclosure, the Crown must show that disclosure will be prejudicial to the public interest in that it will compromise confidential police informants, ongoing law enforcement investigations, the police's intelligence-gathering techniques, or the interests of innocent persons, and that the prejudice to the public's interests outweighs the prejudice to the interests of the accused. The affidavits should be edited only to the extent necessary to protect those overriding public interests.

Duty to preserve the fruits of investigation, and explain their loss
R. v. LA [1997] 2 S.C.R. 680
The Crown's duty to disclose relevant evidence gives rise to a duty to preserve such evidence, and to provide a satisfactory explanation if it is lost or destroyed.


Title: Re: Thomas Svleka Trial
Post by: kindheart on January 18, 2008, 12:52:32 PM
"However, the final Charter breach came on the third consecutive day of interrogation at the Strathcona County RCMP detachment when Mounties went hard at Svekla for seven hours using "aggressive and unrestrained" tactics, despite his insistence that he no longer wanted to talk"

Oh...now i see the problem.
Title: Re: Thomas Svleka Trial
Post by: Adrian on January 18, 2008, 07:42:49 PM


Thankyou, Kindheart, you have good info there.

I wonder why Briscoe was let go. He drove the car, knew where he was going, went to a mall, and they wanted, the chosen one. Nina Courtepatte.He knew where to go on the golf course, HE held her down and told her to shut up, when she was raped, and hit by stuff like wrenches, or hammers, fists???

So, as far as Svekla, are the cops, who made the mistake of continually interrogating him, who should have stopped, when Svekla, said he wanted a Lawyer, and no longer wanted to talk.

I wonder just how many gals he killed. I dreamt last night, there was more., and he may take some police to older sites, of deviant crime happened..resulting in the death, for these women. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on February 09, 2008, 10:25:15 PM
       
           Those that knew of these horrific slayings::need jail time. >:( >:(

Thomas Svekla, is being looked at, for more than the deaths, of Theresa Innes, and Rachel Quinney. He is being at for about 6 or more. He admitted others were involved, someone had to hold the "scared" girls down.So 2 to hold down, and one to kill her? WHo else involved with this? Where are they, and damn it, Svekla, be a man, cause right now look pretty stupid.

 
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Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 05, 2008, 01:36:16 AM
Father is hostile witness!

By TONY BLAIS, COURT BUREAU

   


The father of accused prostitute killer Tom Svekla was declared a hostile witness today as he denied telling a neighbour he had met both alleged victims with his son.

That gave the Crown the right to cross examine George Svekla while grilling him about the statements Stella Verhoef testified he had said to her after her son's arrest.

The elder Svekla was cantankerous during his testimony and accused the prosecutor of trying to put words in his mouth. He also called the media "worse than hounds" and gave photographers the finger outside court.

Verhoef told court she had met Svekla's dad after going to his Fort Saskatchewan home and offering her condolences about her son's May 2006 arrest and said he said many things to her in subsequent phone calls and visits.

That included saying he had met with Tom both Theresa Innes and Rachel Quinney, the two prostitutes his son is accused of killing, and that they were his girlfriends.

"He said that (Innes) was one of Tom's girlfriends and he had met her in Edmonton and when he moved up to High Level, she had followed him up there," said Verhoef.

The body of Innes, 36, was found in the Fort Saskatchewan garage of Svekla's sister on May 8, 2006. Police allege Innes was slain in High Level and Svekla transported the wrapped and wire-bound body inside a hockey bag.

Verhoef testified the elder Svekla called Quinney, 19, "another of Tom's girlfriends" and told her he had talked to Tom's friends about her youth when they visited him at the security post he worked at for steelmaker IPSCO.

"He had mentioned how young she was and she was just jail bait and, shortly after that, she stopped coming around," said Verhoef.

The naked body of Quinney was found in a patch of trees near Sherwood Park on June 11, 2004. Police allege Svekla killed her earlier and interfered with her remains by mutilating her body and improperly disposing of it.

Court has heard Svekla told police he discovered Quinney's body while smoking crack with another prostitute.

Verhoef also testified George told her he thought his son had done the killings, but then said to her he felt like his son "was being set up."

Regarding the hockey bag with Innes' body, Verhoef said George told her if he had known about it earlier, he would have weighed it down and thrown it off a bridge.

"He told me that, had he known of the body, he would have helped (Tom) dispose of it to help save the family name from disgrace," she said.

Verhoef testified as well about what the elder Svekla said about the much publicized photo of his son holding his finger to his lips in the universally known "shhh" gesture.

"That was a warning for people in High Level to stay quiet," she said George told her.

George Svekla admitted having several conversations with Verhoef, but denied ever talking to her about Innes or Quinney or that he had met them through his son.

"I didn't mention if he brought any women over," he said.

The elder Svekla also denied saying many of the other things Verhoef testified he said, but on some subjects he later agreed he might have said them.

The mother of the alleged double killer, Emily Svekla, was also a witness at the trial today.

She testified her son told her he didn't put Innes' body into the back of his pickup truck parked outside the High Level tire shop he worked at and didn't know the woman.

"He tells me he found it in the back of his truck at the place where he worked in High Level," she said. "He told me he didn't know the person. To my knowledge, he never knew her. He told me he never knew her."

Svekla's mother was also asked about whether her son ever spoke about what he was going to do with the hockey bag containing Innes' body.

"He wasn't sure himself," she said. "He said he found it and panicked."

Court has heard Svekla's sister Donna Parkinson called police after finding the body in her garage. She testified she became suspicious after her brother told her the hockey bag contained $800 worth of compost worms.

Svekla, a 39-year-old mechanic, is on trial for second-degree murder and interfering with human remains.

The trial began two weeks ago with the Crown saying it was a circumstantial case with no confession, no eyewitnesses and no cause of death for either victim.

Svekla is the first person to be charged by Project KARE, an RCMP-led task force investigating the deaths and disappearances of people who lead high-risk lifestyles, including more than a dozen local prostitutes.

Svekla is also a suspect in six other killings and two disappearances.





Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 05, 2008, 01:45:38 AM
Quote
Verhoef testified as well about what the elder Svekla said about the much publicized photo of his son holding his finger to his lips in the universally known "shhh" gesture.

"That was a warning for people in High Level to stay quiet," she said George told her.

Wow!
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: solvy on March 05, 2008, 02:00:15 AM
Yikes,  I would have loved to be able to be in that courtroom to hear that!
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 05, 2008, 04:21:03 PM

Kind of makes you want to check all the property this guy owns. What is up with a dad like that, who says if he knew there was a body, he would help get rid of it!!!

This guy admits also to meeting Rachel Quinney. I wonder if that is all he did?

What a pompous SOB. Maybe there is more to the shhhh gesture than meets the eye, like this ones for YOU pops!Can you imagine this guy having 6 daughters?What an insesitive fool. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 06, 2008, 12:22:49 AM
Yikes,  I would have loved to be able to be in that courtroom to hear that!

Me too!
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 06, 2008, 12:23:53 AM

Kind of makes you want to check all the property this guy owns. What is up with a dad like that, who says if he knew there was a body, he would help get rid of it!!!

This guy admits also to meeting Rachel Quinney. I wonder if that is all he did?

What a pompous SOB. Maybe there is more to the shhhh gesture than meets the eye, like this ones for YOU pops!Can you imagine this guy having 6 daughters?What an insesitive fool. >:( >:( >:(

And all of his pals too, I would also grill that woman friend of his who killed someone. They may all be a group of sickos.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 06, 2008, 07:06:55 PM
 By TONY BLAIS, COURT BUREAU
   

The judge in the Tom Svekla double murder trial today kicked out the brother of one of the alleged victims after the man apparently made a gun to the head gesture.

However, Keith Lajimodiere ? older brother of slain prostitute Rachel Quinney ? claims he was merely scratching his head and family members maintain Svekla had been smiling at them in a ?snide and cocky? manner.

Court of Queen?s Bench Justice Sterling Sanderman told court just before the lunch break he had ejected Lajimodiere because of his ?intimidating? gesture and warned others not to interfere with the trial.

Sanderman said Lajimodiere moved from his usual spot in the back of the courtroom to be closer to where Svekla sat in the prisoners? box and displayed a ?menacing and glowering body posture.?

He said the brother then put his finger to his temple, imitating a ?cocked gun,? while staring at Svekla.

?This was an attempt to intimidate Mr. Svekla,? he said, adding he had told court sheriffs to eject him.

Outside court, Lajimodiere denied trying to intimidate Svekla and said Svekla was taunting him.

?I was just scratching my head and the judge thought I was doing a gesture of intimidation,? he said, adding he would be going to speak to a lawyer.

Both his wife and Quinney?s mother maintained Svekla has been smiling and laughing at them since the beginning of the trial.

?He sits there and smiles in our faces and giving us cocky grins,? said Charlotte Lajimodiere, adding Svekla ?deliberately laughed? at her and her husband this morning.

?We don?t find anything humourous here,? she said. ?We?re not coming here to be laughed at by someone accused of murdering our sister.?

Svekla, a 39-year-old mechanic, is on trial for second-degree murder and interfering with human remains in the deaths of Quinney, 19, and Theresa Innes, 36.

The naked body of Quinney was found in a patch of trees near Sherwood Park on June 11, 2004. Police allege Svekla killed her earlier and interfered with her remains by mutilating her body and improperly disposing of it.

Court has heard Svekla told police he discovered Quinney?s body while smoking crack with another prostitute.

The body of Innes was found in the Fort Saskatchewan garage of Svekla?s sister on May 8, 2006. Police allege Innes was slain in High Level and Svekla transported the wrapped and wire-bound body inside a hockey bag.

The trial resumes this afternoon.

Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 06, 2008, 07:13:45 PM


 By TONY BLAIS, COURT BUREAU

Alberta's chief medical examiner today testified on details of the death of Rachel Quinney (left). Tom Svekla (right) stands accused of her murder, and the murder of another woman.

One of the alleged victims of accused prostitute killer Tom Svekla was found naked and mutilated, but no official cause of death could be determined.

That?s what Alberta Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Graeme Dowling said this morning while testifying at Svekla?s double murder trial.

?I could not find an actual injury or evidence of natural disease that could account for death,? said Dowling.

The pathologist told court he performed an autopsy on the body of Rachel Quinney, 19, in June 2004, a couple of days after the decomposing body of the sex trade worker was found in a wooded area near Fort Saskatchewan.

?The first and most obvious observation was evidence of what appeared to be post-mortem mutilation,? said Dowling, explaining both of Quinney?s breasts had been removed as well as parts of her genitalia, right to the bone.

?The best opinion I can give is these were after death,? he said, adding the injuries from the mutilation did not extend into the body.

While Dowling said he could not determine an official cause of death, he noted there was a high level of cocaine in her blood, which he ruled ?could? be a possible cause of death.

?Cocaine may have been a factor in this person?s death,? he said.

The medical examiner also told court there was evidence of GHB, commonly known as the date rape drug, in Quinney?s system, but added the chemical is in everyone?s body and its levels can increase at death.

Svekla, a 39-year-old mechanic, is on trial for second-degree murder and interfering with human remains in the slayings of Quinney and Theresa Innes, 36.

Police allege Svekla killed Quinney earlier and interfered with her remains by mutilating her body and improperly disposing of it.

Court has heard Svekla told police he discovered Quinney?s body while smoking crack with another prostitute.

While Svekla has denied knowing Quinney, his father George told a neighbour he had met both of the alleged victims with his son and they had been introduced as his girlfriends.

Stella Verhoef testified the elder Svekla called Quinney ?another of Tom?s girlfriends? and told her he had talked to Tom?s friends about her youth when they visited him at the security post he worked at for steelmaker IPSCO.

?He had mentioned how young she was and she was just jail bait and, shortly after that, she stopped coming around,? said Verhoef.

Earlier in the trial, an acquaintance of Svekla said he had seen Svekla ?frantically? trying to close the trunk latch over a ?bulky? object in a duffel bag and then closing it, jamming himself into the car and driving off.

As Svekla drove by him, Brad Ludwick testified he yelled back: ?I didn?t kill the girl. I didn?t kill the girl.?

Ludwick, who used to run an auto wrecker business on an acreage near Sherwood Park, also testified about a ?strange? conversation he had with Svekla about a mutilated body.

In June 2004 he said Svekla told him ?something bad had happened,? but he couldn?t talk about it on the phone.

A day later, Svekla called Ludwick again and said he was in police custody and was at the Franklin?s Inn in Sherwood Park with an armed guard outside his door.

Svekla told him he had found the body of a blond girl he thought was a prostitute and said the genitals had been cut off and the body was purplish-pink and decaying.

?I thought it was a strange thing to say,? said Ludwick.

It was that night that the duffel bag incident took place outside his home, he said.

Ludwick also testified about seeing Svekla use a strong degreaser solvent to perform a ?considerable amount of cleaning? to the box area of a white pickup he owned.

The body of Innes, 36, was found in the Fort Saskatchewan garage of Svekla?s sister on May 8, 2006. Police allege Innes was slain in High Level and Svekla transported the wrapped and wire-bound body inside a hockey bag.

The trial began two weeks ago with the Crown saying it was a circumstantial case with no confession, no eyewitnesses and no cause of death for either victim.

Svekla is the first person to be charged by Project KARE, an RCMP-led task force investigating the deaths and disappearances of people who lead high-risk lifestyles, including more than a dozen local prostitutes. He is also a suspect in six other killings and two disappearances.

   

Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 07, 2008, 03:03:55 AM
Wow, that RCMP profile was dead on. Did they not say look for someone washing there truck in a suspision time or manner?

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Ludwick also testified about seeing Svekla use a strong degreaser solvent to perform a ?considerable amount of cleaning? to the box area of a white pickup he owned.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 07, 2008, 03:37:04 AM


Lot's of information here, from the Edmonton Journal, which is updating every day.

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/features/svekla/index.html
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 07, 2008, 01:25:15 PM


Des, I am going to take this further. We have, most of us, spoken about the freezing of Theresa Innes, in the truck in high Level. There was a humongous tire leaning against the back of the truck, and no lee way for other vehicles to pass. She was "hidden"., by all accounts, at that car shop., in the parking lot.

I am also wondering if perhaps any of the other gals were kept frozen. Like Thomas Svekla, said he knew of a Farm, that should be checked into. Couldn't the cops. ask each owner of a farm, or acreage, to check their property? Like if a cop came to me, and said, we would like to check all barns and buildings on your property, wouldn't a person say yes?

Or if their are any abandandend buildings. I just think that we have too many bodies undiscovered. Way too many.

Where the hell are all the witnesses?
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 07, 2008, 01:54:02 PM


Keith Lajimodier, had enough! The whole family had enough.

They say that since the trial began, Svekla, was smiling, laughing at them, being cocky. Enuff to drive anyone over the edge. Why wasn't Svekla, told to quit making facial expressions, that were demeaning to the family of Rachel Quinney, ??

As an older brother, it doesn't matter of Keith was scratching his head, or had enuff of Svekla gunning him off. I feel he used great restraint, and should most definitely be allowed back in the courthouse.

To have to sit thru testomony, see on the First day of the trial, video of the body of their loved one, mutilated, was more than, any one should bare.

SO where are Svekla's Pals now? The ones who mutilate, perhaps kill, maybe abduct, where are they?????? Do we call Svekla the Mutilator?

What about the drugs, which by the way is not unusual for me to think of as being there. The GHB, well! They are saying Rachel had too much cocaine in her system, well any one could have shot her up, with more.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 08, 2008, 03:16:18 AM
Des, yes I remember that talk of freezing. Makes me wonder why on earth he would go back and pick her up and move her around?

Unless someone else was helping???
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 08, 2008, 03:17:58 AM

What about the drugs, which by the way is not unusual for me to think of as being there. The GHB, well! They are saying Rachel had too much cocaine in her system, well any one could have shot her up, with more.


That would certainly render a victim unable to resist whatever the killer wanted to do. Man this guy sounds like he has been doing this for a while.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: debbiec on March 08, 2008, 10:50:26 AM
I agree with wondering how long he HAS been doing this. Really starting to wonder if he is responsible for a lot more than they already suspect.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 09, 2008, 01:49:30 AM
It had already been printed that he is a suspect in 6 other cases or something like that. I wonder if that female friend of his is a suspect in them too???
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: debbiec on March 09, 2008, 09:45:45 AM
I had read about the 6 but I am wondering if there could be more.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 10, 2008, 04:30:04 AM
I'm sure they are digging up everything they can to see. I could be wrong, but someone once said a killer had a lenghtly cooling off period. He could have started a decade or so ago and then nothing for a long time.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 15, 2008, 03:08:09 AM
Is Tom's father a security guard?

From a previous post:

Stella Verhoef testified the elder Svekla called Quinney ?another of Tom?s girlfriends? and told her he had talked to Tom?s friends about her youth when they visited him at the security post he worked at for steelmaker IPSCO.

Ok, just thinking here. Pops seems to have an anger problem, and I am being nice. The guy is weird, saying he would have dumped a body if he had known. Really?

I would like to know how many gals the elder Svekla went out with? Was he part of it, did he know something, was he totally ignorant of the killings going on.

Did he never suspect his son, signs, clues, demeaner, the drugs? Just a thought, but security guards have badges right, and uniforms?

I do feel that Thomas Svekla may have committed more slayings, he did more than is said, and when he first turned in the fact he found the body, the gal he was with was running like hay, away from him. ??? :o >:( >:(
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Carol-Lynn on March 15, 2008, 08:08:03 AM
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I wounder if this could be the palce he works at.I don't know for sure Just asking. ???
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 15, 2008, 01:55:08 PM


Gee Cl, Pretty good maps, not far from MIll Woods, Shopping Centre. From what I read, the plant shreds steel, cars and stuff.Must be noisy, as all hay!

Didn't Sangheeta go missing from Mill Woods? Aw, just thinking, hmm, need some more pop, and wake up a bit.

I wonder how often the gals went out there to meet pops with Svekla? Be back in a bit.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 16, 2008, 12:53:32 AM
Good point Adrian.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 17, 2008, 05:18:05 AM


Ya know, Debbie, Chris Des, and Cl, + everyone,

I also believe that Svekla was involved with more slayings. Why for instance did svekla say there were others involved? Two to hold the victim down, one to beat up? Was "beat' up, torture/ The mutilations? What is that all about.

Someone in that group, not only depersonalized the female victim, but by the act of removing her sexual parts, tells me, he is scared of women. He can't make it with a women, is jealous of them, may even want to BE one.

That these sadistic pigs, seem to achieve some sort of thrill, or plain old psychosexual victimization, as well as psychopathy, tells me the people involved will NOT stop and are capable of anything.

Not only do they make "friends" with the victims, or are familiar acquaintances, they actually do these horrific crimes, with no concience. How many groups similar to this one are travelling our highways and byways? We still got all the remnants of the Pigfarm, roaming around, some signs of ritual abuse, control, elation, ownership, and incredibly sadistic psychoes.

These freaks not only prey on the most vulnerable, but they seem to have joined a pact of some kind.

Are Corrie Ottenbright still alive, as well as Delores Browers, and countless others that are still missing to this day? Are they being held somewhere?

I think that POPs should be investigated, as well as all farms around that area. He also met Rachel, and Theresa at his work, when his son Tom, brought them around. ??? ???   >:( >:( >:(

Keep this svekla sucker locked up!   Check his friends, and who hung at his house.  Pops seems a a real prick. Check his property.... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 18, 2008, 01:39:04 AM
NEver heard of that. It could be, Svlka and his buddy are both busted for different murders. Both won't be in jail long probably. I agree with Adrian, someone helped. Who?
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 21, 2008, 01:43:07 PM


The link below, speaks of horrors, of gals kept in bunkers, being killed, some with ritualistic behaviours, and the escape of Elisabeth Shoaf. I haven't read it all, but many men appear so far involved. The scary part, is this can likely be happening here.


Thanks, Des for this link! It sure makes ya wonder, doesn't it?
   
   
Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
? Reply #36 on: March 17, 2008, 07:16:27 PM ?
   
Adrian and all,
Has anyone heard of the Monster of Florence?
This is a link to an FBI profile of the serial killer in 1989, after the killers last known murder.
what is interesting is this profile sounds like it could be the killer in Edmonton.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19313866/

But then we get to this article at Crime Library which has many theories, some have gone to jail, but the case remains under investigation. Investigating a group of men, perhaps 12, with occult ties, practices etc. This, too, sounds like many questions we've asked.
***************************************************************

I, myself , have believed for a long while now, that there were many players in the killers of Edmonton, as well as other provinces. You, who have read my sometimes, "crazy" thoughts, have known this a long while.

From back to the early seventies, The Highway Murders, to Today, and the Picktons, the Svekla, and friends, of generational abuse, spawning more serial killers, to the occult, as well as the sexually sadistic homicidal maniac.

If, IF, the serial murders were looked into, at the beginning, a lot of these scumbags would be locked up. There are too many connections to ignore. The plight of the gals, often homeless, addicted, and vulne
rable, has gone on and on. It is not stopping.


At times it has banded us against each other, or brought us closer, to the reality. Many games have been played. No idea is too "out there" "squirrley", if there is some sort of back up. We are all here, and on other forums for a reason, and that is to keep this information of the many lost, missing and/or murders from disappearing from the pages of newspapers etc...

I also admit that Thomas Svekla's father, disturbs me. The man is a sicko, saying, if he knew there was a body, he'd a gotten rid of it himself.I also read that Donna, Svekla's sister, was ostracized from the family for turning him in. Well, whooped tee doo! She had the morals, the ethics, and probably knew or had a hunch, on svekla. She was SOLELY the BRAVE Sister in that family. Donna, You were great, and are a great person, for stepping to the plate.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 26, 2008, 01:49:26 PM
SPOKEN in HIGH LEVEL::

Karen Kleiss
The Edmonton Journal

Wednesday, March 26, 2008

EDMONTON - Accused prostitute killer Thomas Svekla told an undercover police officer he feared another inmate might tell authorities he had confessed, court heard Tuesday.

Recordings of the conversation in a High Level jail cell on June 1, 2006, show that Svekla shared his concern after the inmate walked past his cell and told him he was going to die in jail.

"He might talk to the cops that I confessed to him or something," Svekla told the undercover officer, who cannot be named under a publication ban to protect his identity. "I remember telling the story about that girl I found in the bush."

Svekla, a 39-year-old mechanic, is charged with two counts of second-degree murder in connection with the deaths of Rachel Quinney, 19, and Theresa Innes, 36. Both women worked as prostitutes and were addicted to crack cocaine.

In June 2004, court has heard, Svekla found Quinney's body in a field outside Edmonton. Two years later, in May 2006, he transported Innes's body in a hockey bag to Fort Saskatchewan from High Level.

Last month, court heard testimony from former cellmate Justin Delorme, who said Svekla told him he had killed one prostitute and planned to kill another woman, but failed.

Delorme testified March 11 that Svekla offered to entertain fellow inmates with a story about the killing as they prepared to go to sleep in a High Level jail cell in May 2006. At the time, he believed Svekla was just trying to scare a young inmate sharing their cell.

"He's like, you guys want to hear a horror story?" Delorme told police in June 2006. "And he was telling me about how he killed a prostitute in Strathcona. He said that he killed that girl and he said he was taking that other girl there to kill her, or something like that."

Svekla told Delorme his plans for the second killing came undone when the second woman tripped over the body of the first, Delorme told police. Later, Svekla told Delorme: "The only way I'll get convicted of this is if you rat me out."

On the recording played in court Tuesday, Svekla repeatedly expressed his faith in God. Court also heard Svekla tell another version of the story about how he found Innes's body in a hockey bag in his truck.

"I opened the bag and here there is a leg. So I zipper it back up. It stunk a little bit. And it was still fresh. It wasn't there that long."

Svekla also told the undercover officer police had offered him a deal but that he refused it because he wasn't guilty.

"Just because there's a bitch in a bag doesn't mean I killed her," he said.

The trial is scheduled to resume today.

kkleiss@thejournal.canwest.com
? The Edmonton Journal 2008
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 26, 2008, 09:31:42 PM
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"Just because there's a bitch in a bag doesn't mean I killed her," he said.

What frikin ditch pig. I hope we get to see the look on his face when he gets sentences to the max. Whip that smug idiot look of his face. What a cocky punk. I hope he drops the soap at the wrong time.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: debbiec on March 26, 2008, 10:06:56 PM
I guess if he does go to prison we'll see who the bitch is then.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 26, 2008, 10:26:20 PM
LOL! I hope that is what they call him there.

How evil it is to kill a woman and then refer to her as a bitch while her bosy is in his bag. This guy is sickening.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 27, 2008, 01:03:34 PM


Yeah, there is something not quite fitting there, is there? When Svekla, and the gal went there to smoke crack, the girl got mad and ran AWAY from Svekla, tripping over Rachel's body.Svekla followed her, and claims he too saw the body!

I thought the gal kept on running, then I read elsewhere, she drove back to town with him. Was she not kept hidden somewhere, or what?

Since my computer was wrecked, I lost all the files, bookmarks, links,
absolutely everything.Not a thing was saved from the hard drive.So it is leaving me at a disadvantage. Plus I notice sites I used to get into, I can't. I have to re register everywhere.

Anyway, the girl, so far as I can tell ran because she was scared., first of Svekla, then tripping over a body! That Tom has a pretty bad track record with women. He has to start giving up some names. The cops had years to look into Rachel's death, and Svekla's "finding" her.Why wasn't he watched?

Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 28, 2008, 12:38:17 AM
Has it been proven as fact the woman tripped over the body? I thought that was a story he made up.

I also heard he claimed to find the body while taking a leak and then told the woman about it who looked too.

I think Svlka is a compulsive liar and says all sorts of things.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 28, 2008, 03:31:18 PM


I notice that Tom, at times like to talk, like a rough, tough gangster. He may make himself appear tougher than he is to others, but it back fires.His father appears tough, and maybe Tom his whole life has tried to be like him. They are both sicko's in my eyes.

Remember also, that Svekla went to jail, for molesting his own daughter. He went back up to High Level to see daughter and son.I think he got 18 months. This guy is sure no choir boy, and has many , parafillias.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on March 28, 2008, 08:13:58 PM
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just trying to figure out if it's likely Svekla had others with him

Yes I hope that during his defence he starts to name names. If he does, he knows he can create some doubt. I just hope there is no press ban on that.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 28, 2008, 10:44:19 PM


No way, could anyone think you are defending him, Des. It is like we are being told, he spoke of others, yet still , as far as we know, not named who he worked with.I would have thought the cops could have broken him by now, but it appears Tom Svekla, is still trying to play.

He has admitted to someone driving him down from High Level, but has not yet given up any names, of who may have killed the women, they are looking at.

I do believe the cops have a lot more info, and we cannot forget the women killed after his arrest. No way, do I think he acted alone, no way! He was left holding the bag in Theresa's case, that's for sure. Perhaps his sister had started to wonder, a bit, about his wandering around etc... ??? >:( :( :(
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: AlbertaCowboy on March 29, 2008, 03:18:26 PM
Is the trial open to the public?
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 29, 2008, 09:52:36 PM
Yes, trial open to the public as far as I know.
Svekla told friends: 'I've got a story'
Couple unwittingly had woman's corpse in back of truck while accused killer told of finding Rachel Quinney's body
Karen Kleiss, The Edmonton Journal
Published: Thursday, March 27

EDMONTON - An idle chat about roadkill prompted Thomas Svekla to tell an acquaintance that when he stumbled upon Rachel Quinney's mutilated body it looked as if it had been washed and carefully placed on the ground, court heard Wednesday.

Alice Nalesnik and her husband Les heard the story after they agreed to give Svekla a lift to Fort Saskatchewan from High Level in May 2006, at the request of Svekla's brother-in-law.

They later found out they had unwittingly transported Theresa Innes's body in the back of their pickup truck that day.



The topic of Quinney's body came up during the 700-kilometre drive, after Alice Nalesnik commented on the roadkill on the highway.

"I said, 'Boy those crows sure eat well, they have steak in the morning and ribs at night,' " she told the court.

"He said, 'Speaking of ribs, I've got a story.' "

She said Svekla was excited to tell her about finding Quinney's body.

"He was telling me that the body was fresh, and it was clean, it was washed, and her ribs were blue," she said.

"He said that the body was placed among trees that were not broken or twisted," and that it must have taken two men to move her.

Svekla, 39, is charged with two counts of second-degree murder and two counts of committing an indignity to a body in connection with the deaths of Innes, 36, and Quinney, who was 19.

Court has heard that Svekla found Quinney's body in 2004 and transported Innes's body to Fort Saskatchewan from High Level in May 2006.

Alice Nalesnik also testified Wednesday that Svekla told her he knew a woman named Terri.

"She was a friend of his," Nalesnik said. "The only thing he said about her is that she had two children that were being taken care of by her mother, and that she was drug-addicted and she did a lot of street walking. He wanted to help her."

Svekla has denied anything but a passing acquaintance with Innes.

Les Nalesnik testified that he saw Svekla drag the heavy hockey bag over to the truck before they drove to Fort Saskatchewan, and said he told the couple the bag contained 800 breeding earthworms he could sell for a dollar apiece. Nalesnik said when his wife asked to see the worms, Svekla told her the bag had to stay sealed.

Court also heard Wednesday from George Braun, who oversaw Svekla while he worked as a mechanic in High Level. Braun said Svekla had easy access to mechanic's wire and orange garbage bags, which were used by the janitors in the building.

Court has been told that Theresa Innes's body was wrapped with those materials before it was tucked into a hockey bag.

The trial will resume March 31.

kkleiss@thejournal.canwest.com

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/features/svekla/story.html?id=06ec5e13-e7f4-4605-b5a2-abb15f3c3c59
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 31, 2008, 01:06:14 PM


I haven't heard that name. Perhaps you can recall where you read it. It would not surprise me at all if, there was a farm in the Sherwood Park area.

What I can't figure out, is why the cops have not checked EVERY house, acreage, in that area, and beyond. Talk to the people, listen to what they have to say about the loners, there, etc., and check the barns and all the area. There is a whole vast section, that could be flown over by helicopter, or light planes. Roads would be seen, track marks, and buildings off the beaten track, old, but still used to take the gals.

There are quads, argoes. snowmobiles, tracked vehicles, dirt bikes, etc.. to invade the bush areas. Something may be found, like clothing, or other stuff.(THX Roomie) There is no good reason that this has not been done.

Brianna, was a surprise, but I still think she was done by someone else. The slayer of her, was not part of the "group". They wouldn't take the chance.
There is probably another spot, where there are some of our missing.

It is very easy to get out of town from the 118ave., area. At a number of points, 118thAve, heads out to Yellowhead Trail, Provides very easy access to Range Roads, and Township Roads. IT is not a big mystery.Also down thru 50th St, to Sherwood Park Freeway, and then to Range Roads, and Township Roads.There are numerous easy ways to get there.

It is very dark at night, and not many people on the off roads.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 31, 2008, 01:18:41 PM
FROM the SUN:::Svekla admits to having killed someone in his past. No shit sherlocke!, now where are your friends Svekla?


By The Canadian Press
   

A former co-worker of an Alberta man accused of killing two prostitutes says Thomas Svekla once told him he had a dark past.

Gordon Janke testified at Svekla?s trial that the two were having coffee after Christmas 2005 at the Fountain Tire in High Level where they worked.

Janke said Svekla looked sad and out of the blue said he had a dark past and had killed somebody.

Janke told court the information ?freaked him out? but he didn?t say anything about it.

Svekla is charged with two counts of second-degree murder in the deaths of Rachel Quinney, 19, and Theresa Innes, 36.

Quinney?s body was found in a field east of Edmonton, while Innes?s remains were discovered in a hockey bag belonging to Svekla.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on March 31, 2008, 02:24:37 PM


Does anyone think the recent cat mutilations, are tied in to the murders happening? Just a thought, but it is not stopping. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on April 01, 2008, 02:16:34 AM
Who knows, but people who are cruel to animals are probably more capable of murder then anyone else. Heard SK's start sometimes by being cruel to animals.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 01, 2008, 11:14:59 AM
Svekla was a big talker! So start opening up Svekla!


 By GLENN KAUTH, SUN MEDIA
   
Click here to find out more!

Thomas Svekla once admitted to a dark past that included killing someone, court heard yesterday.

Svekla, who is accused of killing two sex-trade workers, allegedly made the comments to a co-worker during a coffee break after Christmas in 2005.

"He said he had a dark past and that he'd killed somebody before," the co-worker, Gordon Janke, told the court.

"It freaked me out a little bit, but I never said anything about it," said Janke, who added he didn't press Svekla on the matter.

The pair worked at the Fountain Tire store in High Level, where Svekla was a mechanic during 2005 and 2006.

Under cross-examination, Janke admitted he had a difficult relationship with the accused killer.

"In fact, you and Mr. Svekla had problems," defence lawyer Rob Shaigec suggested.

In particular, Svekla hated Janke's habit of whistling while he worked. And when Svekla would complain, Janke would step up his whistling, Shaigec said.

But while Janke said he was uncomfortable by Svekla's talk about his checkered lifestyle, Shaigec also suggested his client was prone to exaggeration.

"He would say things to you and later he would be laughing about those things," Shaigec said.

"HE SAID HE HAD A DARK PAST AND THAT HE'D KILLED

SOMEBODY BEFORE."

GORDON JANKE TELLS COURT WHAT THOMAS SVEKLA TOLD HIM

"He was the type of guy that you didn't know when to take him seriously. A joker and a big talker - that's Tom Svekla in your mind," Shaigec suggested to Janke, who agreed.

Svekla, 39, is accused of second-degree murder and interfering with human remains in the deaths of Rachel Quinney, 19, and Theresa Innes, 36.

Quinney's naked body was found in a wooded farmer's field near Fort Saskatchewan in June 2004.

Court has heard Svekla told police he discovered Quinney's body while smoking crack with another prostitute.

Innes's wrapped and wire-bound body was discovered in May 2006 after Svekla's sister Donna told police she found it in a hockey bag in her Fort Saskatchewan garage.

Police allege Svekla killed her in High Level and then brought her body to Fort Saskatchewan in his truck.

The trial continues today.

Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 01, 2008, 11:33:50 AM

Lot's of WEB Extras, and conversations btw, Svekla, and others.



http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/features/svekla/index.html
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 01, 2008, 01:57:28 PM


I still do believe the spider web, is far reaching, and hitting BC, Sask., and Alberta, Manitoba, and some from the piggy farm may be here, as well as all over Canada, and possibly the States.

There are groups, and the occasional loner.More men are dying, and I think in some cases it was because they caught on, saw something, or were a risk. >:( >:(
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 02, 2008, 12:44:50 PM
I DO BELIEVE:

Like has been often posted, I think, from things I heard from the street, and folks at a grassroots level, that there are groups, of killers, across Canada. I think SVekla was part of one. He may not of even known who the "uppers" were, as he was a fall guy. He is still guilty, of an idignity to bodies. He did mention a farm, near Good OLE Sherwood Park.Some call the "KIlling Fields".

The lures to me are crack, money for crack, and females, or good guy friends, acquaintances, or all of the above.

Angel said, as we have also said, that it makes sense that a woman used, as the gals are by now freaked by men. UNLESS they know him.Familiarity plays a role.WE are certainly not immune to male ./female couples who kill, or even any s/he's.

I was told of a guy on tract who is a tranvestite, likes to dress up, and is also brutal to women he lives with. Could this guy be so sick, and twisted, that he is jealous of these women, and wants to BE one? I don't know. The person has sent her info to Kare.

I think we all know that many transvestites, often fix themselves up, better that we do.Some are obvious, and don't care, and will wear a dress and a mustache. This particular person is on my radar, as I never heard of him, but his female ex/friend, has said some awful stuff about him.

The mutilation aspects, are seeming to be real rage and anger that females, have what they don't, and a sick, twisted one, could actually do that, take parts.

Female lures were used in the Pickton Farm, an d also I feel here as well.They are or maybe are working gals themselves, and are coerced, or shown videoe's to scare the hell outa them. When they become a risk, they are probably killed. BUT also MEN are being killed, and I think in a lot of cases, the men found out something , and were a risk. ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 03, 2008, 12:55:18 AM


More info on the Svekla trial:::
***********************************
 By GLENN KAUTH, SUN MEDIA
   

Thomas Svekla and Theresa Innes were friends who had sex together, court heard yesterday.

"I asked if they were boyfriend and girlfriend. He said, 'No. She's just a f--k buddy,'" Tracy Bolton, who knew Svekla in High Level, recalled of a conversation she had with him in the fall of 2005.

Bolton testified she saw Innes and Svekla together several times during the fall of 2005. Innes, 36, is one of two people Svekla is accused of murdering along with Rachel Quinney, 19. Throughout the legal proceedings, he has denied knowing Innes well.

Bolton, though, said she saw Innes at Svekla's house at least twice in the months leading up to her disappearance.

Defence lawyer Rob Shaigec, however, repeatedly questioned the accuracy of her evidence. Noting she had broken her glasses during a fight with her husband in August 2005, Shaigec suggested Bolton was "blind" without them. It was several months before she got a new pair, court heard.

Later, Bolton admitted her vision was severely impaired despite the fact she was driving a taxi during that period. But, she insisted, she could still tell who people were by their shapes and the way they walked.

Innes, she noted, walked with a distinct limp while Svekla had very noticeable body language.

Shaigec also questioned the witness on her statements to police that she had once seen someone named Quinney at Svekla's High Level apartment some time after she and the accused left a drug treatment program together in the summer of 2005.

Bolton went on to say she understood that person to be Rachel Quinney, something that would be impossible since she was found dead east of Edmonton in the spring of 2004.

Asked to explain her claims, Bolton said she later learned the woman was Rachel Quinney's younger cousin. The two bore a resemblance, the increasingly agitated witness told Shaigec. "It's not my fault that her and her cousin have the exact same birthmark," Bolton exclaimed.

Shaigec's cross-examination came to an abrupt end as Bolton became clearly fed up with his questions about her earlier statements to police and during Svekla's 2007 preliminary hearing.

Bolton warned him to change his attitude, at which point she left the witness stand and attempted to run out of the courtroom. A court security officer stopped her, leading Court of Queen's Bench Justice Sterling Sanderman to threaten to send her to jail if she left.

"That works. I won't have to answer any more of Mr. Attitude's questions," she yelled from the back of the courtroom.

In the end, Bolton agreed to take a short break and finish her testimony. Her appearance followed testimony from Svekla's landlords in High Level, one of whom said she saw blood on the bathtub and in the kitchen of Svekla's apartment after he left it in February 2006.

Court heard, however, that those bloodstains may have been connected to an alleged assault Svekla was accused of against another man. The Crown dropped that case after police lost some of the evidence.

Svekla's trial continues today.

Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 03, 2008, 01:50:17 AM
FROM the JOURNAL: April 3rd,08
 Seems that Theresa Innes was good buddy of Svekla, also Rachel Quinney.....
.................................................

Karen Kleiss
The Edmonton Journal

Wednesday, April 02, 2008

EDMONTON - A High Level landlord who rented an apartment to Thomas Svekla testified Tuesday she saw a freezer in the spartan apartment and couldn't fathom why it was there.

"I thought, what does he need a freezer for, when he is low on money," Elzbieta Lis told the court at Svekla's double murder trial.

Court has heard that Theresa Innes's body was cold to the touch when it was discovered in a hockey bag Svekla hauled to Fort Saskatchewan in May 2006.

A police affidavit entered into evidence suggests investigators thought Innes's body had been frozen, and a medical examiner has testified it is possible that Innes's body lay frozen in Svekla's truck in High Level for months before it was moved.

Svekla is charged with the second-degree murders of Innes, 36, and Rachel Quinney, 19.

Court has heard he transported Innes's body in the hockey bag in May 2006, and that he tripped over Quinney's body in a stand of trees outside Edmonton in June 2004.

Both women were drug addicts working as prostitutes to support their habits.

Lis and her husband, Jozef, rented the apartment to Svekla after he got out of the Action North drug rehabilitation centre in December 2005.

The couple testified they found blood stains on the carpet, on door handles and in the tub when he moved out a few months later.

However, the cause of the stains is not known and forensic tests could not confirm that the stains were actually blood, Crown prosecutor Karl Wilberg said.

Further, in an earlier, unrelated case against Svekla, Crown prosecutors attributed the blood stains to a man Svekla allegedly assaulted, and not to Innes.

The charge in that case was eventually stayed.

In later testimony on Tuesday, a High Level cabbie who knew both Innes and Svekla said they rode together in her cab one night, providing the first clear evidence that Svekla knew his alleged victim.

Tracy Bolton said in late 2005 or early 2006 she saw the two together at least twice, and that she once picked them up together at a trailer park.

"I asked (Svekla) if they were boyfriend and girlfriend but he said no, she's just a (sex) buddy," Bolton said.

Bolton acknowledged she is an alcoholic and an addict and was using crack-cocaine heavily at the time.

Under cross-examination, she became overwhelmed and defensive when defence lawyer Rob Shaigec pointed out multiple discrepancies in her testimony.

At one point she left the courtroom in tears, returning only after a stern warning from Court of Queen's Bench Justice Sterling Sanderman and a five-minute break.

The trial is scheduled to resume today.

kkleiss@thejournal.canwest.com
? The Edmonton Journal 2008


Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on April 04, 2008, 07:06:02 AM
Quote
Further, in an earlier, unrelated case against Svekla, Crown prosecutors attributed the blood stains to a man Svekla allegedly assaulted, and not to Innes.

The charge in that case was eventually stayed.

Huh! Another chance at busting him but some judge let him off the hook. This seems to be a pattern.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: debbiec on April 04, 2008, 11:03:44 AM
Same goes for Canadian serial killer Clifford Olsen. I remember reading about him when he was charged with his grisly crimes, a full two page spread in the Kelowna newspaper at the time which talked about everything in his past leading up to his first murder. His criminal past was alarming (mostly to do with some type of sex crime). If he had been punished when he first started maybe he wouldn't have escalated to murder. That is the system for you though.It is totally flawed.   
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 04, 2008, 06:33:42 PM


From what I have heard, Clifford was a time bomb, waiting to happen.

THE PROBLEM????

He was an expert at hiding his real self.One of my landlords worked with him, and said, he was always yapping, joking around. He brown bagged it to work.Aside from being a jokester(sp) of sorts,he could be moody.

A neighbour told me, he was in your face, out there. Being verbose, and kinda gregarious, he was extreme in the hiding of his true self.

When in jail, he liked to write the parents of his victims, and what he did. Also to his own son.

Svekla, may or may not want the notoriety of an OLson. He acts, like he is just a puppet, or a pawn, being used. I also think he fears for his life. He should. Who knows who he played with!!!!

Does anyone think that Svekla may be misleading us all, in his real involvement? If he knows more, it would be to his advantage to talk. He is still playing games.

I notice he taunts his father! Big time...on TV, to the media, to his dad. "This is for YOU., Dad!!!" Said with a smirk, and a gesture. What went on btw those 2, did his father also use Rachel, and Theresa? They visited his work. He spoke with them, just how many did POPS really know?

I read on one of the reports, that Svekls truck, white, was seen in area of Rachel two weeks prior to her death, then later after her death, with a "date".By this time she was mutilated. Svekla knew where to drive, or was it a fluke?

I myself think the gal he was with was super lucky, or she may have been left lying next to Rachel. He spoke of Rachel, and moonlight, and man, what can I say, the guy freaks me out!I also think that the brother or uncle of Rachel, who made a gesture to Svekla at trial, showed great restraint. Svekla is about getting away with murder. Sadistic, brutal, and yet he still f'ing smiles'

If he was "just" the disposal guy, he is still a freak of 1st class!He was in it up to his eyeballs, and should start naming names. S.O.B. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 07, 2008, 07:20:41 PM
Witnesses Speak out:
What's with the circumstantial case?
*************************
More witnesses link Svekla to slaying victim Innes
 
Karen Kleiss
edmontonjournal.com

Monday, April 07, 2008

The Stardust Motor Inn in High Level.
CREDIT: Supplied
The Stardust Motor Inn in High Level.

EDMONTON - The circumstantial case against Thomas Svekla resumed today with more testimony from drug-addicted friends and acquaintances who saw the accused with Theresa Innes, one of the two prostitutes he is alleged to have killed.

Their testimony is crucial to the Crown's case: Svekla has denied any relationship with Innes, who was found dead in a hockey bag he transported from High Level to Fort Saskatchewan, court has heard.

What has clearly emerged from the testimony is that Svekla and Innes moved in the same circles, bought drugs from the same people, and smoked crack in an old trailer park behind the Stardust Motel in High Level.

Less clear is whether the two were friends or - as some witnesses have suggested - lovers.

Svekla, 39, is charged with two counts of second-degree murder in connection with the deaths of Innes, 36, and Rachel Quinney, 19. Both women were prostitutes struggling with addictions to crack-cocaine.

Ryan Bredesen was living in a rented trailer in the summer of 2005, and for a time Theresa Innes was his roommate, he testified today.

"(Svekla) was dating Theresa at the time, and he was always complaining that he never saw her because she was always working," Bredesen told the court.

He said Svekla told him Innes "was good" - alluding to sex - and he recounted sitting with the couple at a "crack party" he hosted that summer. He later remembered seeing the pair together on the street.

Under cross examination, however, Bredesen admitted that the specifics of his memory are "fuzzy" because he was heavily addicted to crack cocaine at the time. At the party, he conceded that he was focused on the pile of drugs on the table, and not on his guests.

High Level cab driver Donald Boulton said Svekla was well-known in High Level and that he had driven Svekla and Innes together in his cab.

"One other time he was pissed at her because she supposedly ripped him off," Boulton told the court. "He said he was going to 'kill that bitch,' " Boulton said, adding that he didn't take the threat seriously at the time.

Under cross examination, Boulton acknowledged he told police Svekla was not focused on any one woman when he made the threat to kill, but that he was referring to a number of women who had ripped him off. He also acknowledged that he didn't like Svekla, because he said derogatory things about women in general.

The trial continues.

kkleiss@thejournal.canwest.com
? Edmonton Journal 2008
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 08, 2008, 01:39:44 PM

Man, This Dude craved ATTENTION!!!

By TONY BLAIS Court Bureau, SUN MEDIA
   

Accused prostitute killer Thomas Svekla once threatened to kill one of his alleged victims over a supposed drug ripoff, according to a High Level cab driver.

Testifying this morning at Svekla?s double-murder trial, Donald Bolton said Svekla and slain prostitute Theresa Innes were both in the back seat of his cab at the time.

Bolton told court Innes left the taxi and Svekla became angry over her apparently ripping him off.

Svekla said ?he was going to kill that bitch,? testified Bolton, adding he didn?t take the threat seriously.

Under cross examination, Bolton agreed the threat was not in his statement to police and he never testified about it at an earlier preliminary hearing, although he did report the argument over the alleged drug ripoff.

Another witness from High Level, Rayn Bredesen, also testified about seeing Svekla and Innes together at a crack cocaine party at his home, as well as on the street.

Last week, Bolton?s wife Tracy testified as well about seeing Svekla and Innes together in the fall of 2005 and recounted Svekla telling her they were friends who had sex.

The claims appear at odds with Svekla?s own statements to police that he barely knew Innes.

Svekla was charged in Innes? death after her wire-bound and wrapped remains were found in a hockey bag he had transported from High Level to his sister?s garage in Fort Saskatchewan in 2006. The sister called police. The hockey bag containing the body had been in Svekla?s pickup truck which was parked outside the High Level tire shop he had worked at. Svekla claimed the bag contained $800 worth of composting worms.

Police allege Innes was slain in High Level and Svekla transported the body from there to Fort Saskatchewan.

The 39-year-old mechanic is accused of second-degree murder and interfering with human remains in the deaths of both Innes, 36, and Rachel Quinney, 19. Quinney?s naked body was found in a wooded farmer?s field near Fort Saskatchewan in June 2004. Both of her breasts and parts of her genitalia had been removed.

Police allege Svekla killed Quinney earlier and interfered with her remains by mutilating her body and improperly disposing of it. Court has heard Svekla told police he discovered Quinney?s body while smoking crack with another prostitute.

The trial continues this afternoon.

Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 11, 2008, 06:40:54 PM

Every time this goof, opens his mouth, he puts his foot in it!!
WEll seems, this guy just can't keep his yap shut, it goes on, and on..... I think he likes the sound of his own voice. Start confessing, Svekla, you need too, if only for your sanity, and the victims, families, and friends. CANADIAN PRESS
   

An Edmonton court has heard an Alberta man accused of killing two prostitutes showed a friend scratches and bites on his chest that he said were from a sexual encounter.

Gamal Elgharably was testifying at the trial of Thomas Svekla, who is charged with killing Theresa Innes, 36, and Rachel Quinney, 19.

Elgharably says he ran the liquor store in High Level, and Svekla was a regular customer who became his friend.

He testified that some of the wounds Svekla showed him in December of 2005 appeared to be deep and nasty.

Innes was last seen in High Level near the end of 2006.

Police allege she was killed in the northern community and that Svekla transported the body from there to Fort Saskatchewan.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on April 11, 2008, 11:19:55 PM
POor woman, it seems she was fighting back really hard. What a heartless sicko.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 14, 2008, 01:32:01 AM

This guy is a total chick magnet. No matter what he says, or how often he puts his foot in his mouth, he keeps rocking. Hell, the police, should of been checking him out since he turned in the slaying of Rachel Quinney.

He had a mouth like a sieve, and I think a lot of people, could of turned him in for questionning. This narcisistic guy, with his never ending smile, is totally psycho.

This guy should never be let outa prison, ever. He better start copping up some names, as he continually alludes to. C'mon svekla, show some balls!!!!Be a man, show some respect, and who you hurt tragically, so many friends, and family. Idiot!


 
Svekla's girlfriend saw hockey bag
 
Karen Kleiss
The Edmonton Journal

Friday, April 11, 2008

Thomas Svekla
CREDIT: John Lucas/Edmonton Journal
Thomas Svekla

Hunched and trembling, Thomas Svekla's former girlfriend told his double-murder trial Thursday she saw him with a black hockey bag in the days before he left High Level for Edmonton.

A small, weary woman with shaggy, short black hair and a cross dangling from her neck, Diane Kipling was living with Svekla in early 2006 when Crown prosecutors allege Svekla killed 36-year-old prostitute Theresa Merrie Innes.

Court has heard Svekla transported Innes's body in a hockey bag from High Level to Fort Saskatchewan in 2006.

Kipling barely cast a glance at her former boyfriend, but he looked directly at her. At times, he smiled.

In a voice barely above a whisper, she testified the hockey bag was stored in the motel room they shared after he got out of jail in the spring of 2006, but that she never looked inside it, never saw him move it and never moved it herself.

Svekla, a 39-year-old mechanic, is charged with two counts of second-degree murder in connection with the deaths of Innes and Rachel Quinney, 19.

On the day he departed High Level for Edmonton, Svekla wanted Kipling to go with him, she testified.

"He was begging me to go with him."

kkleiss@thejournal.canwest.comm
? The Edmonton Journal 2008


Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 14, 2008, 05:55:43 PM

Hi there, You know when we talked on Thersa Innes being Kept in the truck in High Level? There was a HUMONGOUS Wheel in the back of it, and the front was pointing at a wall?We spoke of how it would take a few guys to put the tire there.

I think she was left all winter, frozen, and High Level is cold, freezing cold in winter.Some things don't add up, like why he would keep her there, when there are miles, and miles of trees, and brush. I don't understand why the body was dropped off in Fort Saskatchewan.

Here is what I think. She was wrapped tight, and maybe in a plastic bag. When it was time to remove her, she was put in the Hockey Bag. With Help!!!
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 22, 2008, 01:57:40 PM

Svekla had history of choking:::
By BOB WEBER, The Canadian Press
   

A man accused of killing two prostitutes has a history of unpredictable anger and violence against women, court heard Tuesday.

The Crown reached back into Thomas Svekla?s high school days to produce two former girlfriends who told of the former mechanic?s sudden rages and chokeholds.

?I remember his thumbs on the centre of my throat,? one of the women told the judge hearing the second-degree murder case without a jury.

The women, who testified as part of a voir dire on the admissibility of their evidence, cannot be identified because of a publication ban.

Svekla is charged in the deaths of Rachel Quinney, 19, and Theresa Innes, 36. Quinney?s body was discovered and reported to police by Svekla himself in 2004. The body had been mutilated and left in a field outside Edmonton.

Innes was discovered two years later. She was found wrapped in plastic and wire, and stuffed in a hockey bag in the back of a truck belonging to Svekla that he had left parked at his sister?s home.

On Tuesday, a woman testified that she met Svekla through her brother.

?He was a good friend,? she said. ?He was not mean or anything.?

But one night in 1985, when the woman was 14, her brother and friends, including Svekla, had gathered at the family farm for drinks before they went to a bar, she testified.

A few minutes after everyone left, she said, Svekla returned by himself with cuts on his hand. She said he told her he?d hurt himself punching a window. The woman, who was alone in the house, unlocked the door and let him in.

She said she washed his cuts in the bathroom sink, went to the kitchen to get some bandages and returned to find something in Svekla had snapped.

?He started getting really mad at me and really angry and telling me this was all my fault. He was just yelling at me. It was almost like an out-of-control anger.?

She said Svekla chased her around the kitchen table and caught up to her in a hallway, where he pinned her with her back to the carpet and her hands behind her.

?He was pushing on my throat,? she told court as she recalled Svekla saying he could kill her if he wanted to.

The woman said she stopped arguing and fighting and allowed Svekla to lead her into her bedroom.

?He had put me down on the bed and told me to keep quiet and he was trying to pull my jeans down. I was squeezing to try and keep them from getting past my waist.?

Eventually, Svekla gave up and she was able to calm him down, she testified. Svekla left and she hid under a granary in fear he would return. That?s where her brother found her when he came back to the house.

The woman said Svekla later apologized. The two were able to reclaim their friendship and even dated briefly a few years later ? a relationship that included sex in the back of Svekla?s Camaro, she said.

A second girlfriend, who had a four-year off-and-on relationship with Svekla in the late 1980s, testified to the same sort of unpredictable rage.

Once, said the woman, Svekla choked her with his hand around her throat. On another occasion, the couple were at a bar when the woman went outside to look at a friend?s new car. Enraged she?d left him alone, Svekla attacked, she said.

?He pinned me against the wall and used his forearm to choke me across my throat and under my chin,? she said.

?I felt helpless. I had difficulty breathing.?

Defence lawyer Robert Shaigec is expected to argue the women?s testimony is irrelevant to the present murder allegations.

Court of Queen?s Bench Justice Sterling Sanderman will rule on the question later.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on April 23, 2008, 02:57:27 AM
If he was violent at that age and never got help, he probably got worse and worse.

Weird how there has not been much news from this trial in a while.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on April 23, 2008, 11:19:04 PM
Good point Des, there is a chance he could be let out. Maybe the jury will be torn and will come up with a compromise conviction of 2nd degree murder instead or something like that.

With the Pickton case, it was clear he was a murderer, with this, it is mostly circumstancial.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 24, 2008, 11:19:14 AM
Svekla and the boogyman:::

By TONY BLAIS, COURT BUREAU
   

Rebecca Kroetsch was very close to Thomas Svekla and had even invited him to her wedding as a groomsman. So, after he was charged with murder, she went to see him.

But, after the hour-long visit at the Edmonton Remand Centre - which Kroetsch described as a "bone-chilling" experience - the Fort Saskatchewan woman walked out convinced the accused prostitute killer was guilty.

"I feel horrified that the person that was so good to me in our teenage years has, I believe in my heart after meeting with him, turned into a monster," she said outside court yesterday after testifying at Svekla's double-murder trial.

"I felt like Clarisse from Silence of the Lambs," said Kroetsch, referring to the Jodie Foster movie character who met with fictional serial killer Hannibal Lecter.

"I saw something in him that horrified me," she said, adding she is now "praying for Tom's soul."

In court, Kroetsch testified Svekla called himself the "bogeyman" and metamorphosed before her eyes from a longtime good friend to someone who really scared her.

"It was all in the eyes," said Kroetsch. "I felt this very cold, scary presence right through the glass. It was very frightening to me."

Kroetsch told court she had known Svekla as a teen in Fort Saskatchewan in the early 1980s and said they had gone to high school together and were "really close."

After hearing the "shocking" news that "this huge person in my life" had been charged with murder, Kroetsch said she approached Svekla's family and arranged a visit.

During the May 2006 meeting, she testified Svekla began asking about a mutual female friend of theirs who has accused him of choking and trying to sexually assault her, and said his demeanour completely changed.

"He said 'I need you to tell her she was the first one. She was the first one I ever hurt. She was the first one to see the bogeyman', " said Kroetsch.

The woman also testified Svekla told her people were very interested in serial killers and he said he should write a book and make lots of money to give to his son.

Kroetsch said Svekla denied being guilty, but was very cryptic about the charges he was facing.

"He said 'Rebecca, this is all I will tell you for now, just for now. I transported a body,' and then he started laughing ... 'just for now', " she said.

Svekla, a 39-year-old mechanic, is accused of second-degree murder and interfering with human remains in the deaths of Rachel Quinney, 19, and Theresa Innes, 36.

Quinney's mutilated naked body was found in a wooded farmer's field near Fort Saskatchewan in June 2004.

Innes's wrapped and wire-bound body was discovered in May 2006 after Svekla's sister Donna told police she found it in a hockey bag in her Fort Saskatchewan garage.

Police allege Innes was slain in High Level and Svekla transported the body from there to Fort Saskatchewan.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on April 24, 2008, 06:13:11 PM
Oh yeah, thanks Des, I forgot about that.

Wow, if he is calling himself a boogey man and his friend thinks he is gulty...
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on April 25, 2008, 09:11:22 AM
Svekla wanted to be in charge! He wanted to kill, and I wonder if he is also a necrophilliac?


 By TONY BLAIS, COURT BUREAU
   

A woman testified yesterday morning that accused prostitute killer Thomas Svekla once attacked her and said he was going to break her neck and hide her body.

The High Level woman, who cannot be identified under a court-ordered publication ban, nervously recounted the details of the alleged Aug. 4, 2005, assault while a witness at Svekla's double-murder trial.

"That's when he said he was going to twist my neck and break it and hide my body somewhere nobody would ever find it," said the soft-spoken native woman.

The woman said she had met Svekla in High Level and ended up going to his basement apartment for a drink.

She told court she was sitting on a sofa in the suite and Svekla sat down beside her.

"I knew there was something wrong and I said, 'I gotta go,' " she said, adding Svekla then attacked her from behind.

"He grabbed my throat with his left hand and he covered my mouth with his right hand. He had me down and was trying to kiss me on the mouth."

The woman testified she "fought and fought" against the attack, but ended up seeing stars.

It was then that Svekla made his chilling threat, she said.

"That's when I played dead," she said. "And as soon as he turned his back, I ran out and he was chasing me from behind."

The woman told court she was able to escape and took a taxi to the RCMP detachment.

She also said she was all bruised up as a result of the assault.

Svekla was charged with sexual assault and uttering threats as a result of the incident and is slated to go to trial in High Level at some point.

The woman's testimony was heard during a so-called voir dire, a hearing to decide if testimony will be admitted as evidence in the trial.

The voir dire testimony is what is referred to as similar-fact evidence. The defence is expected to argue it is not relevant to the murder case and should be excluded.

Svekla, who turned 40 yesterday, is accused of second-degree murder and interfering with human remains in the deaths of Rachel Quinney, 19, and Theresa Innes, 36.

Quinney's mutilated naked body was found in a wooded farmer's field near Fort Saskatchewan in June 2004.

Innes's wrapped and wire-bound body was discovered in May 2006 after Svekla's sister Donna told police she found it in a hockey bag in her Fort Saskatchewan garage.

Police allege Innes was slain in High Level and Svekla transported the body from there to Fort Saskatchewan.

The trial is slated to continue next week and prosecutors told the judge they expect to wrap up their case in the second week of May.

Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on May 24, 2008, 04:38:03 AM




By THE CANADIAN PRESS

   
Well, It won't surprise me if Svekla manages to beat this rap!!! A self confessed liar, wanna be ladies man, and the gift of the gab!!!
   

If he gets any time, it will be for doing indignities to , two bodies. Never mind, the white truck, near where Rachel's body was found, two weeks before her death, or the fact that POPS knew both the victims. Svekla admitted that others were involved, but wait, he lies doesn't he? So WTF is going to be the outcome, and if Svekla didn't kill them, why is he in jail?

Personally, I believe that he knew what he was doing, knew of other players, and may have done more! Also the son of a bitch, and his SSSHHHHHhhh, with a smirk and a smile, gave a lot away. I do believe he KNOWS a lot more of these girls deaths, and should be kept in jail, till he talks. Never happen tho", but I think a killer may be released!  >:(  >:(  >:(   

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A man who once mockingly referred to himself as the "Robert Pickton of Alberta" will learn his fate June 3.

Accused prostitute killer Thomas Svekla is charged with second-degree murder in the deaths of Rachel Quinney and Theresa Innes. The 40-year-old mechanic is also accused of committing indignities to their bodies.

In his closing arguments yesterday, defence lawyer Robert Shaigec said the Crown's case is nothing more than a rickety scaffolding of weak facts, hearsay, coincidence and testimony from accusers whose memories have faded with time or been addled by crack cocaine.

"There may be no homicide in this case, plain and simple," Shaigec told Court of Queen's Bench Justice Sterling Sanderman in a reference to Quinney's death.

Svekla, flanked by prison guards, sat nearby in the prisoner's dock, his paunchy frame clad in a light-grey golf shirt, his balding hair shaved to the skull. He wore wire-rim glasses, moustache and goatee.


Pointing to testimony during the trial from a medical examiner, Shaigec reminded Sanderman that Quinney had so much cocaine in her system she may have died of an overdose.

Crown prosecutor Ashley Finlayson has conceded that the case is circumstantial.

But in his closing address, he said Svekla's behaviour, his penchant for lying and the outrageous odds of one man with a predilection for violence finding bodies of two murdered women in two years is enough to carry a conviction.

"The lies continue to flow, so you should have no difficulty rejecting his explanation," Finlayson told Sanderman, who is hearing the case without a jury.

The stakes may be higher than the case itself.

Svekla is the first person charged by Project Kare, a squad of police officers investigating dozens of missing sex-trade workers and others living high-risk lifestyles.

Quinney's case, as outlined in court, began June 11, 2004, when Svekla went out with a friend to smoke crack and instead made a grisly find in a lonely stand of trees in a farmer's field northeast of Edmonton - Quinney's body.

Police questioned Svekla, made him take a polygraph and got a DNA test, but came up empty and let him go.

Court heard he eventually moved to High Level, 700 km to the north, where he worked at a Fountain Tire store and faded into the background - until lightning struck twice two years later with Theresa Innes.

Like Quinney, the 36-year-old had two children and had tried and failed to break a cycle of crack use and prostitution.

In March 2006, her mother reported her missing. On May 7, the remains of Innes were found at Svekla's sister's house in Fort Saskatchewan just outside Edmonton. Innes's nude body was wrapped in garbage bags, a shower curtain and an air mattress, tightly wound with wire, and tucked into a black hockey bag that he had brought with him from High Level.

He told everyone the bag was full of compost worms and no one was to touch or open it. But his sister, Donna Parkinson, was suspicious and while he was out she snapped on a pair of gloves, opened the bag and called police.

The next morning, officers surrounded Svekla's car as he was leaving to run errands. They charged him with murdering Innes. Eight months later, he was also charged in Quinney's death.

When his trial began Feb. 19, the Crown knew it was thin gruel. There were no DNA matches, no confessions, no murder weapon, no eyewitnesses and no obvious cause of death, though the medical examiner couldn't rule out soft smothering.

In lockup, Svekla was put in a special section with other high-profile accused. Lawyers, he crowed, were lined up to defend him.







      



   
      
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Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on May 25, 2008, 02:48:16 AM


DEFENCE:

No proof Svekla did it, lawyer says
'The pieces of the puzzle don't fit,' declares defence counsel in double murder case
Karen Kleiss, The Edmonton Journal
Published: yesterday 9:29 am

There is nothing to prove that Thomas Svekla killed two drug-addicted prostitutes: no forensic evidence, nothing resembling a confession and a parade of unreliable, tainted witnesses who lied under oath and changed their stories, the defence said Friday during closing arguments in the double-murder trial.

Defence lawyer Robert Shaigec said Svekla found two bodies, moved one of them and repeatedly lied to police, but none of his behaviour proves he is a murderer, let alone a serial killer.

The 40-year-old mechanic is charged with two counts of second-degree murder in the deaths of Rachel Quinney, 19, and Theresa Innes, 36. He stumbled over Quinney's mutilated body in a bush in 2004 and transported Innes's bound body in a hockey bag from High Level to Fort Saskatchewan in 2006.

Shaigec said prosecutors offered little more than an opinion about Svekla's character when they claimed it was "just another day at the office" for his client to transport Innes's body and that he did so for some sinister purpose related to self-gratification.

"It is a far-reaching psychoanalysis of a man who on every account has weirdnesses and strangenesses beyond

what many people can comprehend," Shaigec said. "It is illustrative of why character evidence is so persuasive, but for all the very wrong reasons."

Shaigec highlighted the absence of any forensic evidence linking Svekla to either murder. The male DNA found under Innes's fingernails did not match Svekla and neither the wire nor the tape used to bind her body could be linked to him.

Shaigec said the alleged near-admissions cited by the prosecution are little more than "nebulous" comments and "joking banter."

He acknowledged that Svekla lied repeatedly to police, but told Court of Queen's Bench Justice Sterling Sanderman that he can't use those lies against Svekla unless he finds that they are part of a concocted story that shows a guilty conscience. Svekla lied many times, but his lies were reactionary, Shaigec said. "He was caught with a body, he was interrogated and he lied."

Even if Sanderman uses Svekla's statements against him, he should only conclude that his client committed man-slaughter, not murder, Shaigec said.

He drew Sanderman's attention to the differences between the victims: they are different ages, different heights, different races. Quinney was a stranger, Innes was a friend; Quinney's body was mutilated, Innes's was not. "There is no uniqueness, there is no signature, there is no objective improbability of coincidence. There are threads of similarity and threads of dissimilarity and that's all that can be said," he said.

"The pieces of the puzzle don't fit. It's just a puzzle."

Sanderman is scheduled to issue his decision June 3.

kkleiss@thejournal.canwest.com


? The Edmonton Journal 2008
 
 
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on May 25, 2008, 02:51:17 AM



PROSECUTION:


Karen Kleiss, The Edmonton Journal
Published: Friday, May 23

EDMONTON - Thomas Svekla killed Theresa Innes, painstakingly wrapped her body in plastic and twisted wires and stowed her for five months, then ferried her back to his hometown so he could hide her in his special place, as he had done with Rachel Quinney, the Crown argued Thursday.

In a five-hour closing argument, lead prosecutor Ashley Finlayson weaved together hundreds of factual threads to make the circumstantial case against the 40-year-old mechanic, charged with killing Innes, 36, and Quinney, 19.

Finlayson urged Court of Queen's Bench Justice Sterling Sanderman to reject Svekla's claim that he only found Innes's body and moved it. He said Svekla killed Innes and highlighted the alleged killer's lies and bizarre behaviour after her decomposing body was found in his hockey bag two years ago.



Svekla lied about knowing Innes, Finlayson said. He claims someone set him up by putting her body in his truck, but it "strains credulity" to suggest someone would spontaneously spend hours meticulously wrapping a body in Svekla's shower curtain and air mattress before stuffing it into his hockey bag and stashing it in his truck, Finlayson said.

Then, instead of disposing of the body in a nearby dumpster or any of the fields on the outskirts of High Level, Svekla chose to transport the body back home to Fort Saskatchewan.

"Clearly when he wrapped the body ... he did not have quick disposal in mind," Finlayson said. "There is no urgency. He wants to hang onto that body because he has a reason for doing so, a purpose for doing so. What is overwhelming evidence of that is his reaction when he is arrested."

After his sister found the body and police arrested him on a charge of second-degree murder, Svekla asked them: "Is it something that happened recently? Like, how recent?" Essentially, Finlayson argued, he was asking police: "What body? Which body?

"It is amazing that he could possibly think that it's not for the body he just brought from High Level," Finlayson said. His reaction also provides overwhelming evidence of how little concern he had for Innes, he said.

"His only concern is for his purpose, whatever that is. It's not about self-preservation. It is about that purpose. It is all about self-gratification.

"Who would react in that fashion? I can't think of anyone," he said. "Unless, of course, you have done it before, and it is just another day at the office."

Svekla asked an old friend to help him write a book about his life, telling her people are interested in serial killers. He then asked the friend to take a message to the first girl he ever attacked, to tell her she was "the first one to see the bogeyman." It was the first in a series of near-admissions, Finlayson said.

'SERIAL KILLER'

In remand, Svekla told an undercover officer he was "in the presence of a serial killer."

When discussing his case, he told his mother "that's what serial killers do, that's our motive." He told his sister "they're going to pick on me for awhile until I crack." In a conversation with a police officer, he said "there's no way I did that to all these girls."

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Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on May 25, 2008, 03:01:00 AM


PROSECUTION 2:

Prosecutor lays out case against Svekla
Court reminded of alleged killer's method
Karen Kleiss, The Edmonton Journal
Published: Friday, May 23

He couldn't keep his story straight about finding Rachel Quinney's body, which shows his reason for being in the bush where she was found was a lie, Finlayson argued.

"He goes there knowing that the body is there and has orchestrated this so he can show the body to (the woman he was with) and shock her," he said, calling this another quest for self-gratification.

Finlayson then urged Sanderman to apply similar fact evidence to the other death. If he finds Svekla guilty of killing Innes, he can apply his finding in that case to Quinney's case, because the similarities are overwhelming.


   

Both women were skinny, addicted and vulnerable, and both lived lifestyles that made it almost certain that nobody would notice if they disappeared.

Defence lawyer Robert Shaigec will make his closing arguments today.

kkleiss@thejournal.canwest.com


? The Edmonton Journal 2008

   

 
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on May 25, 2008, 03:20:17 AM



So, was Svekla a Signature Killer? Was he so sadistic and cruel, that his ultimate gratification, was the mutilating of a dead body?

Why did he take the time, the risk, to travel with Theresa Innes for hundreds of miles, to his sister's house? Was he planning on dropping her off  in the same area, and finish his handywork? What was this guy's fantasies? Did he feel more power over a dead body, the last step to his work? Where are Rachel's mutilations? Where are her breasts? Her vagina? Does he have a hiding spot for that too?

What were his intentions with Theresa Innes body?Was he going to mutilate her also? Perhaps take some body parts?

This Svekla is a class 1 creep of the worst kind. I want to know where the other bodies are, families need justice?!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(

If this sadistic monster, is let go, why the F*ck was he arrested in the first place for murder?He spoke of a farm;where is it? He spoke of comrades, he spoke of being a serial killer, he laughed, smirked, and his big yap was nothing but a screen! This sniveling, narcissistic scab, does not need to be let out ever. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on May 25, 2008, 01:09:19 PM


Thomas Svekla, may be released with time served.
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Considering this is one goof, who was in close contact, up close and personal, in I believe life and death. This sadistic SOB may be released?

The above articles from the Journal, and many of our own thoughts, are any of you satisfied with the outcome? Do you think more evidense was needed?People have been charged for murder with NO body at all!!!

Do we really need a guy like this walking our streets, or worse, cruising, and taking another gal to his secret place, with his buddies?

What do you think? Anyone?
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on May 25, 2008, 02:49:53 PM
I have to admit, I will be holding my breath here. It does seem the case was weak.

((They took hs DNA in 2004 and it did not match anything))

That concerns me more. I think that means, most of the other murders are unrelated.

There is a good possibility that a judge, whom might feel sorry for Svekla could rule in his favor. I think the most he could get is charges relating to the body in the bag, but if the judge does not feel it was murder... who knows!
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on May 26, 2008, 03:06:43 AM


Yeah, Chris, it does seem the police acted too fast, but what do you do with someone travelling with a dead body? You can't ignore it that's for sure, but there is the fact of tampering with human remains, found in his possession.

What ever the verdict, there are still a lot of questions to be answered... ??? Thanks for your reply! He may be let go with time served!  ???
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on May 27, 2008, 02:48:40 AM
When the judge does convict him of the crimes he is obviusly guilty of, I hope he gives the maximum. But I still hold out hope that he will be convicted, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence and incriminating statements given. I mean, he tripped over a dead body!

I think his folly was not using a jury. He could have confused the hell out of them with a good lawyer.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on May 28, 2008, 04:00:04 AM

MY FEELINGS:::
It really bugs me that Svekla talked to an undercover cop in jail, and said he was a serial killer, had friends, 2 to hold victim down, one to beat, continually tried to screw stuff up. He came out as the Boogeyman to a friend from years before.

He had grandiose ideas, calling himself the Pickton of Alberta, knew BOTH Rachel and Thersa, well enuff that he introduced them to his father, and they visited his fathers work. Why is the defense saying he didn't know Rachel?

Then I think of Briscoe, and his walking away from aiding in a murder, of Nina Courtepatte, and Joseph Laboucans DNA found on Ellie May Myers body? I wonder of linkage BTW the killers of Nina, and Svekla and his friends.

He spoke of a farm, where there was lot's of evidense. Briscoe living where the 4 men were charged with murder of the 4 police officers.Roscoe, the shooter, was gunned down. How did these 4 fit in the picture?, and did Briscoe KNOW them? I heard Roscoe, had previous pedophile charges, as did Svekla, of his own child in High Level.

Briscoe was 35, Nina 13. These serial killers, and pedophiles find each other.Men are still active! Brianna Torvalson, Leann Benwell, the young girl, recently found in Edmonton, hospitalized. No updates as usual from the police.

To me, I still think of LINKS, and more links, connections, gangs of men, and teens. Women and families who won't talk!!!I do believe there are people who do know what is happening, aside from the bad guys. Some families may even be covering for there relative/friend? Or pretending they know nothing and scared of talking to the police for fear of retaliation.

I wish that the police, got in with the girls, got to know them. I hear too many stories of calls not being answered, or not returned.WHY????

Other missing or murdered, get front page news, re enactments on TV, lots of activity in investigating, photoes OUT THERE and IN YOUR FACE . What about those that are homeless, sex trade workers, couch surfing to try stay alive. Some drug addicts that good ole Edmonton doesn't really give a sh!t about.

Is this killing that has been going on for over 25-30 years, just going to be bypassed, again, and again?Are there also white supremists involved?

Just how many groups are there? How many loners? And I am not leaving out the piggy farm. Picktons buddies are all roaming around....still!!!!!!

I pray for Justice, for all the girls, all the families, all the friends.To the Creator, I pray for your power, to help make some sense of this never ending slayings of people. :'( :'( :'(

SVEKLA should never be let out, and Briscoe shoud be locked up! Birds of a feather!!!!! >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on May 29, 2008, 05:50:23 AM
It would seem bizarre to ignore his statements that is for sure. Courts have ruled confessions given under intense interigations are not valid, but in this case, he gladly gave them.

Yes, like Des, judge only trials make me nervous and I know judges LOVE the attention for making controversial judgements and LOVE it even more when they get to blame police.

I really hope this guy is not one of those people.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on May 29, 2008, 02:10:58 PM
 
JUDGE only TRIALS::::

What can I say? Kinda scary for sure. Thomas Svekla is a walking time bomb, he wasn't arrested for nothing, there two dead people, and with all he has said, the Judge should see that. 8)
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on May 30, 2008, 02:18:23 AM
I feel confident Adrian, I just do. No judge can be that nutty (well, except for the one in the Nina case).
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: capeheart on June 01, 2008, 02:07:49 PM
 ???Don't know very much about this case, don't hear about it in N.S.  I feel that if this guy gets walking it would be a disaster, just from reading the comments about the trial and his attitude. Is he born in Canada or is he here illegally, just wondering.  Ship him back to where he came from if he is not a Canadian.  We have a lot of people in Canada who are charged with crimes and they iknow they are here illegally, but they still don't deport them. Well, I truly hope and pray that this guy is convicted of something until they investigate further on his background.  Of course, he maybe trying to be a loudmouth, considering there was no DNA in some of the matters.  Weird, I will try and keep following the matter now that I know the name of the case.  ??? ??? ::)
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on June 01, 2008, 07:28:28 PM
He is from Canada, but Edmonton has been rocked by some very weird judgements and so there is concern this judge may aquit. I do not think he can nor will.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on June 02, 2008, 03:57:35 AM


We got us a few serial killers around and maybe a loner. WE have over about 90 missing and murdered, in Alberta. Seemingly tied in with other groups, The Pickton Farm,  Svekla and friends.The Highway of tears, where many native women, were killed or disappeared. All over the North West.

Canada's secret...Also has the best profilers, best investigators.

There is a post somewhere here, that says we have 500+ women or teens killed. Also other nationalities. The killing are viscous, cruel, and sick. 8) 8)
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on June 03, 2008, 12:20:36 PM
http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Alberta/2008/06/03/5758456.html

NOT Guilty of Rachel Quinney, and Guilty of Theresa Innes, by 2nd degree.!!!!! ??? ??? ??? ??? >:( 8)

Press Link above for more information. THX.

 By SUN MEDIA AND THE CANADIAN PRESS
   
Thomas Svekla has been found guilty of second-degree murder in the death of Theresa Innes.

Svekla was charged with second-degree murder in the deaths of Rachel Quinney and Innes. The 40-year-old mechanic was also accused of committing indignities to their bodies.

While he was this morning found guilty of murdering Innes, he was found not guilty over the slaying of Quinney.

Innes' family cried in court at the announcement, while Svekla looked down with his arms folded.

In his closing arguments, defence lawyer Robert Shaigec said the Crown's case was nothing more than a rickety scaffolding of weak facts, hearsay, coincidence and testimony from accusers whose memories have faded with time or been addled by crack cocaine.

"There may be no homicide in this case, plain and simple," Shaigec told Court of Queen's Bench Justice Sterling Sanderman in a reference to Quinney's death.

Guilty in one slaying, not guilty of another: judge
Pointing to testimony during the trial from a medical examiner, Shaigec reminded Sanderman that Quinney had so much cocaine in her system she may have died of an overdose.

Crown prosecutor Ashley Finlayson ealier conceded that the case was circumstantial.

But in his closing address, he said Svekla's behaviour, his penchant for lying and the outrageous odds of one man with a predilection for violence finding bodies of two murdered women in two years is enough to carry a conviction.

"The lies continue to flow, so you should have no difficulty rejecting his explanation," Finlayson told Sanderman, who heard the case without a jury.

Svekla is the first person charged by Project Kare, a squad of police officers investigating dozens of missing sex-trade workers and others living high-risk lifestyles.

Quinney's case, as outlined in court, began June 11, 2004, when Svekla went out with a friend to smoke crack and instead made a grisly find in a lonely stand of trees in a farmer's field northeast of Edmonton - Quinney's body.

Police questioned Svekla, made him take a polygraph and got a DNA test, but came up empty and let him go.

Court heard he eventually moved to High Level, 700 km to the north, where he worked at a Fountain Tire store and faded into the background - until lightning struck twice two years later with Theresa Innes.

Like Quinney, the 36-year-old had two children and had tried and failed to break a cycle of crack use and prostitution.

In March 2006, her mother reported her missing. On May 7, the remains of Innes were found at Svekla's sister's house in Fort Saskatchewan just outside Edmonton. Innes's nude body was wrapped in garbage bags, a shower curtain and an air mattress, tightly wound with wire, and tucked into a black hockey bag that he had brought with him from High Level.

He told everyone the bag was full of compost worms and no one was to touch or open it. But his sister, Donna Parkinson, was suspicious and while he was out she snapped on a pair of gloves, opened the bag and called police.

The next morning, officers surrounded Svekla's car as he was leaving to run errands. They charged him with murdering Innes. Eight months later, he was also charged in Quinney's death.

When his trial began Feb. 19, the Crown knew it was thin gruel. There were no DNA matches, no confessions, no murder weapon, no eyewitnesses and no obvious cause of death, though the medical examiner couldn't rule out soft smothering.

In lockup, Svekla was put in a special section with other high-profile accused. Lawyers, he crowed, were lined up to defend him.


Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: capeheart on June 03, 2008, 06:29:29 PM
So glad this TS was convicted today, I saw it on the news here.  I hope he gets Life without parole. He is a weird, creepy person and waving and going on to the cameras.  This is a violent non caring animal that should never get out of jail as long as he lives.  All my best to the families who must breath a bit easier knowing that he was convicted. 
8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on June 04, 2008, 12:52:12 PM

The killer of Rachel Quinney has to be found, the sadistic creep, plus friends have to be caught!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


What was done to Rachel, was so demented, perverted, and reeks of torture!The mutilations, and the sheer apathy in what was done to her by the killers. I will still say killers, as there is more working at this killings, that are still OUT THERE doing their perverted crap, over, and over.

All our missing and murdered women, and kids, as well as men need justice, and their killers found. I am inclined to slowly believe that over goat may be right, altho" he may have the wrong group.

Overgoat"( from Medley thread)
-someone is paying to kill women, and the HA are providing the killers the women and then disposing of the bodies

-someone is paying to torture women, and the HA are providing the torturers the women, and then killing them to shut them up and disposing of the bodies

-the women are being used for HA snuff porn/torture porn, and then killed

- someone is buying human flesh to eat

- some women are being killed to conceal information that they have, so they are used in all of the above scenarios"
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Where are Delores Browers, Corrie Ottenbreight, Jeannie Gingras, and so many more missing?Where are their bodies? Is Jeannie still alive? I hope that Jeannie, went nuts after disappearing, with out her medication, so she is in some hospital somewhere.Jeannie, I think of you daily, and your many friends, do also.Who killed Brianna Torvalson, left again in the Sherwood Park area, where so many gals have been found.

Chris or Des, I can't find a map of the body sites, if anyone has one, can you please put up. I will continue to search, also. :'( :'(

It will help all newcomers who have just learned of all these crimes. ??? ???

Thankyou, and hugs to all family members, and friends, and those of us who care deeply for the injustices done over so many years, and for the First Nation Peoples who have lost so many, as well as others. :'(  :'( >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on June 05, 2008, 12:26:31 AM

INFO ON SVEKLA TRIAL:::::Please press link.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2008/06/04/5765371-sun.html
The link , also has others, concerning the families reactions, and pictures.

GUILTY of the deaTH OF tHERESA iNNES, AND acquitted OF RACHEL QUINNEY"S  DEATH~~~

 By TONY BLAIS, COURT BUREAU

Charlotte Lajimodiere reacts with disappointment outside the courthouse yesterday to a not-guilty verdict handed down by a judge in the death of her sister-in-law, Rachel Quinney. (DELLA ROLLINS/Special to Sun Media)

It's time for the bogeyman to face the music.

Thomas Svekla will be handed an automatic life sentence June 16 after being convicted yesterday of second-degree murder in the slaying of prostitute Theresa Innes, 36.

The 40-year-old mechanic was also found guilty of interfering with human remains for transporting Innes's wire-bound and wrapped remains in a hockey bag from High Level to his sister's garage in Fort Saskatchewan in 2006.

However, Svekla was acquitted on charges of second-degree murder and interfering with human remains in the 2004 death of prostitute Rachel Quinney, 19.

Yesterday's ruling in a standing-room only courtroom was met with tears of relief, anger and several outbursts.

After Court of Queen's Bench Justice Sterling Sanderman left the room, Innes's brother stood and shouted at Svekla.

"Tom, why don't you have the courage to stand up and tell the truth for the first time in your life," said Mike Innes.

Quinney's sister-in-law Charlotte Lajimodiere then yelled something about the judge not having any daughters.

Delia Quinney appeared stunned that Svekla was not found guilty of her daughter's killing and mutilation and needed help leaving the courthouse, weeping and looking like she was on the verge of collapse.

When Sanderman ruled Svekla was guilty of Innes's slaying, her parents and brother began crying while the convicted killer simply looked down with his arms folded.

Outside court, the Innes family refused to talk to reporters and Mike Innes angrily grabbed his wife and pulled her away as she began speaking in front of TV cameras.

"We're happy, really happy," said Nataile Pangnanouvong. "But I feel bad for the Rachel Quinney family."

Lajimodiere, who spoke on behalf of the Quinney family, called it a "harsh verdict" and "a great letdown by the justice system" resulting in "great pain and great anger."

She said the family was torn apart during the trial and the verdict has not brought them any closer.

"There is still no justice for the Quinney family," she said. "It doesn't give us any justice."

Sanderman said the Crown failed to prove any link between Svekla and Quinney and while he found the fact Svekla found her body to be "highly suspicious behaviour," it was not evidence of any wrongdoing.
   

Regarding Innes, the judge "completely" rejected Svekla's claim that her body had been planted in his truck by someone trying to frame him and that he had "panicked" and transported it to Fort Saskatchewan.

"It's fanciful. It's ridiculous. It's preposterous and incapable of belief," said Sanderman. "It's the grand lie spun by him right from the beginning."

The judge ruled Svekla's ever-changing lies and "concoctions" told to police, coupled with his elaborate wrapping of the body to conceal it, led him to conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that he had murdered Innes.

The judge also noted separate admissions Svekla made to a friend and a co-worker that he believed were true.

The first was when Svekla asked a high-school friend to tell a high-school girlfriend that she had been the first person he had hurt and "the first to see the bogeyman."

The second was when Svekla told a fellow worker at the Fountain Tire in High Level after Innes had disappeared that he had a "dark past" and had "killed someone."

Testimony by more than 100 witnesses was heard since Svekla's trial began on Feb. 19, following several months of voir dire hearings to determine whether certain police evidence would be admitted.

He was charged in Innes's death after his sister found the hockey bag containing the remains in her garage and called police. Svekla had claimed the bag contained $800 worth of composting worms.

Quinney's naked body was found in a wooded farmer's field near Fort Saskatchewan in June 2004. Both of her breasts and parts of her genitalia had been removed.

Police had alleged Svekla killed Quinney earlier and interfered with her remains by mutilating her body and improperly disposing of it.

Court has heard Svekla told police he discovered Quinney's body while smoking crack with another prostitute.

The cause of death in both cases was undetermined.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on June 06, 2008, 06:47:19 PM
http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/features/svekla/index.html#

Good coverage of the Svekla , and the court, and witnesses, and families of both Theresa, and Rachel.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on June 10, 2008, 08:36:26 PM
From the above link, one of many stories. This about the infamous SSSSHHhhhh! He says to warn other killers, not to talk, or that it was to one killer, and mentions his dad, later on. Interesting, and shows there are more like him involved!!!( Anne Rule gets her 2 cents in..yeah!)

 
Murderer snagged spotlight with a finger on his lips
But even Svekla can't decide what his 'shhh' meant
 
David Staples and Karen Kleiss
The Edmonton Journal

Sunday, June 08, 2008

Convicted killer and pedophile Thomas Svekla calls it the gesture that made him famous.

On May 11, 2006, four days after the RCMP found the body of Theresa Innes wrapped in a cocoon of plastic and wire and stored in a hockey bag in Svekla's possession, he made his first public appearance.

Prison guards led him in and out of Fort Saskatchewan provincial court for his first court date. A mass of news media cameras focused on him. Photographers call this type of shoot a "perp walk" and usually struggle to get a usable photograph because most accused people duck and hide their faces.

But not Svekla. When he came out, he looked right at the cameras, stopped, held up his index finger to his mouth and went "SRating 3."

He continued to mug for the cameras, looking out the back window of a police car, holding up his handcuffed hands and smiling and laughing.

Svekla's public display baffled investigators from Project Kare, the RCMP task force which handled the investigation.

Why had he acted in such a manner?

During his many months in jail, Svekla gave people different explanations for his behaviour that day.

One explanation from Svekla , who has always maintained his innocence, but hinted he knows the identity of the real killer, was that he was telling that person that he wasn't going to rat on him.

"Remember the gesture that got me famous?" Svekla asked a newspaper reporter in an October 2006 conversation, which unbeknownst to them was wiretapped.

"Yes," the reporter said. "Why did you do it?"

"Just to give people a sign that, you know, I'm gonna be keeping quiet, you know? Not saying anything."

Svekla expanded on this explanation to Project Kare investigator John Respet, saying his inspiration for the gesture came from a 1996 movie, At Close Range, starring Christopher Walken and Sean Penn. In the movie, Svekla said, Walken was a criminal who murdered his crew. Penn played Walken's son. "Sean Penn wound up testifying against his dad, right?" Svekla told Respet. "And in the movie, (Walken) goes like this, right?"

Svekla held up his finger to make the "shhh" gesture. "To be quiet, so he wouldn't rat him out."

Respet told him: "Everybody thought you were playing to the media. So it had nothing to do with the media?"

Svekla replied: "No. I just wanted to tell people that did that to that person (Innes) that you gotta keep quiet."

On another occasion with Respet, Svekla gave a second interpretation, that he had made the gesture to upset his father, George. Svekla had come down from High Level with his hockey bag containing Innes's body and was visiting with his parents, George and Emily. His dad got mad at him and kicked him out of the house. Svekla ended up staying with his sister, Donna Parkinson, who became suspicious about the hockey bag. She found the body inside and called police.

"That's the only reason I was smiling at the camera, too, at my dad, eh," Svekla said.

"Piss him off?" Respet asked.

"Piss him off," Svekla agreed. "I'll see you later, Dad. You got your wish, you know. He wanted me away."

"In this way, though?" Respet asked

"To be honest with you, I don't know," Svekla said. "He's more happier when I'm away. When I'm back, he's grumpy, so me being on camera is just my way of getting back at him there."

Yet another explanation came from a woman Svekla assaulted in her teens in the late 1980s. On July 22, 2006, Svekla called her from the Remand Centre and told her not to believe everything she heard in the media.

"Svekla claimed not to be a serial killer. He said he was laughing in the media because everyone thought he was a serial killer," Const. Kevin Kunetzki said in an affidavit regarding the conversation.

On the same day Svekla called his sister, Donna, who asked him why he had acted the way he did.

"Svekla said it was a joke because he is being blamed for something he didn't do," Kunetzki said. "(He) said he is going to sue when he gets out of jail."

American crime writer Ann Rule, an expert on homicide who has written 29 books on killers, says it's not uncommon for murderers to play up to the media.

Rule points to two notorious American killers, Ted Bundy and Gary Ridgway, the Green River Killer.

"They do enjoy the infamy. I would say infamy becomes them. They love the publicity," she says. "It made them feel important, when really these are very empty people."

Ridgway appeared to enjoy jousting with the police and telling them how clever he was, Rule said.

"He thought he was going to be infamous and a celebrity forever, but now he is all alone in a cell and nobody goes to see him."

dstaples@thejournal.canwest.como
? The Edmonton Journal 2008
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on June 12, 2008, 04:39:19 AM
It does seem like it. I wonder if he did that more then one time. He seemed to be enjoying the attention too.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on June 12, 2008, 12:20:30 PM


I do believe that Svekla holds a wealth of information, on the disappearances of these women.It is time, and probably the best thing he can do for himself at this time. He has to speak up, concerning exactly what he knows. 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on June 14, 2008, 12:15:15 PM
If he does, I doubt now he will open his mouth. I hope they have evidence in another case they can use to force him to trip himself with though. He seems like he wants to brag, but his lawyer probably put a zipper on that mouth.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on June 14, 2008, 04:06:23 PM


He may also have received threats, and fears retaliation. He may get his in prison, hard to say, where they keep him. There are a lot of relatives of missing family, in prison, and they may try to deal with it there own way.

I understand he is in 23 lock up? I hope he does the right thing..... ???
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on June 14, 2008, 09:33:42 PM
The scary thought to me is this. Maybe he did only kill those 2 women? Maybe he was just trying to have it blamed on the real serial killer. Has Kare stopped working? No.

So there is a very good chance, that might be it. There is still a serial killer out there.

The one thing we never hear about is other girls saying they had seen him, or witnessed him doing anything to anyone else. Well, when he was young, but no STW's that I have heard had said anything.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on June 15, 2008, 01:55:42 AM


WEll. a few spoke of their near misses with him, from the past. He has been locked up awhile now.He seemed to like to choke, or asphyxiate, and beat his women.

He may have killed these 2, but I wonder, to what extent his pedophillia went? I hope we hear more. Yes, there still is a serial killer, look at Brianna, Benwell.It is crazy Chris.. are you beginning to think we just have one? What about the female/male aspect. I shudder to think, but look at how many women, and kids have been charged with killing in the last year or more. ??? ???
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on June 16, 2008, 02:30:51 PM

I agree there is so much more to this. The switching off of roles, has a ring to it. It is very conceivable this is happening. I do wonder how many are connected to this group? In the last years, there appears to be an extreme abundance of of the wall killing, and group slayings.

I don't think that svekla just goes up to anyone on the street, and asks them to smoke some crack with him, unless he knew them, or met at some time. >:( >:( ::)
Title: This just in! Life Sentence for the Murder of Theresa Innes!
Post by: CraftyGal on June 16, 2008, 05:04:42 PM
That's right Life Sentence!  :D :D :D :D :o :o :o  Wow the judge finally got it right!


Life Sentence for the Murder of Theresa Innes!

CraftyGal



edited for spelling....
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on June 16, 2008, 08:55:49 PM
Since he has been in custody for 2 years, he will probably get a break on those days, so in fact it is possible he could be out in as little as 13 or 11 years depending on how much credit he gets. BUt then again, he may or may not get parole right away.

If he has done more crimes or had partners, I hope now he will open his mouth and say so. If not, I am sure they will not stop investigating this scum bag.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on June 18, 2008, 01:32:01 PM

That is what I am hoping for, that, now he is locked up, for a long while, he will start talking on what he knows!!!

It would be good to explain his buddies, that he said helped him. Two to hold, one to beat. Or was he talking of other people? You can bet he holds a lot of answers, but he is scared sh!tless, of any retaliation.

His first day in jail, he was supposedly beat up 3 times, and when he got put in PC, he bragged, that, "No one can get me now!!!"

I wonder where he will do his time, they would be nuts to send him to another province.Also I hope he is spoken to by many profilers, investigators, of this type of crime. I want him to GIVE IT UP and CONFESS!

These crimes here have gone on and on for years, and years. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on July 13, 2008, 09:10:16 AM


W.T.F.??? This is nuts!!!This jerk is a killer! He should start talking on what he knows!

When I first heard of this GOOF"S appeal, I thought, OH, NO, not again! Face it Svekla, you are right now where you belong!!! Your hands are dirty, you friggin' diddler, with a penchant for killing STW'S, you make sure you grab the most vulnerable, don't you?

Who are you trying to save out there? You are doing the beef, but I know, as you said, it yourself, that it takes 3, 2 to hold down, and 1 to beat! So start talking...either way, you lose. You are nothing but a sniveling coward, ya need to be castrated, and you need to hear the screams of gal's every day of your life. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Carol-Lynn on July 13, 2008, 09:45:58 AM
Dose anyone remember the guy they were looking for in a motor home.? This is going a while back in the trial when he was first busted.
That being said I sure hope they checked out the Bates Motel on 17th St and Yellow head trail. ???
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on July 13, 2008, 11:12:04 AM


I know what you are talking about, but can't spell the guys name. Des knows. Dale Hasenclever? Both him and his motorhome, disappeared the same time, that Svekla was driving down from High Level with Theresa Innes, who was dead in a hockey bag.

The motorhome, was in Grande Prairie.It was a beige/white color, aren't they all? Anyway, I haven't heard if it was found or not.It was big, and the kind that is all one piece, you drive where you live.

We had pics of it here, but it must of been the site that was hacked down, I can't find it. ??? ??? You thinking it could be at the Bates Motel?  :o
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on July 25, 2008, 05:21:14 PM
Decided to put this link up again, from the Edmonton Journal, and Svekla.

Please press link for more news, videos, and information.

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/features/svekla/index.html

'You didn't destroy us,' Svekla told
Mike Innes, second from left, leaves the provincial courthouse building where Thomas Svekla received a life sentence Monday for the murder of Theresa Innes, Mike Innes' mother. The women walking with Innes are unidentified.
Murderer gets life sentence, no chance of parole for 17 years

Two years after their mother was murdered, Mike Innes still gets regular calls from his younger brother.
 

Snagged spotlight with a finger on his lips

Convicted killer and pedophile Thomas Svekla calls it the gesture that made him famous.
 
 
Tom Svekla's secret life

One summer night some 20 years ago, Tom Svekla, then a teenager of about 17, hammered his bloody hand on the door of an acreage house, asking for someone to let him in. A teenage girl, a friend, appeared...
 
 
Cunning practitioners of the 'pity play'
An alleged victim of Thomas Svekla is comforted.;'V' told police that Svekla tried to pull down her pants and threatened to kill her. The case has yet to reach court, but V testified at Svekla's murder trial about the alleged attack.

Leading psychiatric researchers are convinced there exists a type of person known as the psychopath, unemotional and sinister men and women who are different from the rest of us right down to the basic...
 
 
The stepfather, the pedophile

Charges against Svekla for the sexual assault of a minor -- M's own nine-year-old daughter -- ended their marriage. The extent of his pedophilia is not fully known. He has one criminal conviction and...
 
 
Heart of darkness

The final act of Svekla's disintegration played out in the town of High Level, his own heart of darkness. No longer fit or able or willing to pass himself off as a normal person in middle-class society...
 
 
Svekla guilty of murder in Innes death
Family and friends of Rachel Quinney and Theresa Innes hug after holding a smudge ceremony outside the Edmonton courthouse, before the verdict was delivered in the double-murder trial of Thomas Svekla.

Thomas Svekla has been found guilty of second-degree murder in the death of Theresa Innes, and not guilty of killing Rachel Quinney.
 
 
No proof Svekla killed, says defence
Thomas Svekla

There is nothing to prove that Thomas Svekla killed two drug-addicted prostitutes: no forensic evidence, nothing resembling a confession and a parade of unreliable, tainted witnesses who lied under oath...
 
 
Strong evidence Svekla guilty: Crown
Thomas Svekla on the first day of his trial in February.

Thomas Svekla?s bizarre behaviour and conversational slip-ups provide strong evidence that he killed Theresa Innes, the Crown said this morning during closing arguments in the case of the alleged prostitute...
 
 
Judge admits choking evidence
Thomas Svekla on the first day of his trial in February.

The judge presiding over Thomas Svekla?s double-murder trial has admitted similar-fact evidence showing the alleged killer choked and assaulted two women in separate incidents nearly two decades apart...
 
 
Judge ponders choking evidence
File photo of Thomas George Svekla.

The judge presiding over Thomas Svekla's double murder trial must now decide whether to accept evidence that the alleged killer has demonstrated a penchant for choking women.
 
 
Woman recalls threatening encounter
Thomas Svekla

Another woman testified today that alleged prostitute killer Thomas Svekla threatened to choke her and forced her to have sex with him.
 
 
Old friend's visit to Svekla 'bone-chilling'
Thomas Svekla

When Rebecca Kroetsch visited Thomas Svekla in jail two years ago, she felt like the character who visits fictional serial killer Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs, she said outside court after ...
 
 

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Web Extras
 
 
 

    * Video: Rachel Quinney vigil
    * Video: Svekla verdict
    * Video: Svekla dares police to charge him with 14 murders
    * Audio: Svekla learns sister believes he may have killed Innes in December 2005
    * Transcript: Svekla learns sister believes he may have killed Innes in December 2005
    * Audio: Phone conversation between Svekla and his sister Donna Parkinson on Aug. 26, 2006.
    * Audio: Phone conversation between Svekla and his sister Donna Parkinson on Aug. 27, 2006.
    * Week One: The trial so far
    * Timeline: Events leading up to the double-murder trial of Thomas Svekla
    * Transcript: The second major interrogation, May 9, 2006 (PDF)
    * Transcript: Svekla learns he is a suspect in eight murders, May 9, 2006 (PDF)
    * Transcript: Svekla sends a Mother's Day card, May 13, 2006 (PDF)
    * Transcript: Svekla worries about being called a "hooker killer," May 18, 2006 (PDF)
    * Transcript: Svekla calls in the body find, Oct. 24, 2007 (PDF)
    * Transcript: Discussion with Alberto Choy, Nov. 20, 2007 (PDF)
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: debbiec on July 25, 2008, 06:40:20 PM
I'm so glad this disgusting excuse for a human being is not free to hurt anymore women. However, I really have my doubts that we will ever know the full extent of his killing spree. What makes these monsters tick? Things seem to have cooled off since he was convicted. People not talking about it as much. Maybe people think they are safe now, but I think there are more just like him out there. I know on here we will not forget.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on July 25, 2008, 08:46:15 PM


Svekla is not the only one debbie, I think he had friends as equally as screwed up as him. The same with Pickton. Pickton said 17, Svekla said 3, and a farm!

The spiderweb has grown, and there are many crimes, in other Towns etc..., Good old mobility. I even heard of a bus, that Debbie Lake lived in before she was killed.

Also have to say, I hear that some of the gals have been taken to outer city limits, and thrown out, and their shoes taken away, so they are barefoot, and alone, at night. If you check out serial killers, I got a link put up, that shows where the drops are.Plus more activity.

They have about 16 pinpointed, and we have over 80+ missing or murdered in Alberta.

Alot of the missing are not put out by Kare for Months, and months.

Thx for taking an interest, I am really trying, to find an ending to this.This was covered up for so many years, it is astonishing. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on July 26, 2008, 11:27:25 PM
I was watching the story about Henry Lee Lucas, and somehow, him and O'Tool, another serial killer hooked up and did stuff together.

It makes me wonder if twisted minds find each other. These guys met at a gay bar or party or something. I heard pedophiles have a way of deteticing each other, do serial killers too?

Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on July 31, 2008, 05:33:33 AM


I am starting to think, that the Police, may have a suspect or two. I do believe there is another killer here.(part of a group). Every thing twisted ,The work of the sexually, sadistic, homicidal, maniac.He loves to cruise, just loves it. Slow, easy, then BANG! he sees his prey. He smiles.

Why are there so many missing? The roads are every which way, the guy knows the area, for sure. He knows it well. Wouldn't surprise me if he lived around there.
Maybe he lives in the city? Something has to give!
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on August 01, 2008, 11:17:24 AM


Svekla already said others were involved, even talking of a "FARM', and others as equally dangerous as he was. Plus he was in jail for some of the other killings/disappearances, in both High Level, and here in Edmonton. Leanne Benwell, Briann Torvalson, maybe Bonnie Jack.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on September 04, 2008, 02:34:29 PM

SVEKLA::::
In Court Again: This whacko liked his hands around a ladies throat....Svekla in Peace River for 3 days.
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By CURTIS HAUGAN, SUN MEDIA
   

PEACE RIVER -- Convicted killer Thomas Svekla has been given a three-day break from his second-degree murder life sentence, but he'll be spending it in the Peace River courthouse.

Svekla, 40, is standing trial for the Aug. 4, 2005 alleged sexual assault of a High Level aboriginal woman as well as uttering death threats.

The complainant, who cannot be named due to a publication ban, was the first to be questioned by Crown prosecutor Karl Wilberg and defence lawyer Lauren Garcia.

She told the Court of Queen's Bench yesterday that she and a friend were drinking and walking the streets of High Level the night of Aug. 3 and early morning of Aug. 4, 2005 when they were confronted by Svekla.

Svekla, who was riding his bike, allegedly asked her if she would like to come over to his basement suite to have some drinks. She said yes.

Once in his place, she noticed Svekla clearing off items on his bed before joining her on his couch.

She alleged he began to touch her leg at which point she stood up and said she had to go, court heard.

"He attacked me from behind," she said, pausing for tears. "He grabbed my throat and my hair ... I thought I was going to die, I couldn't do anything."

She said that he tried to take off her pants and began to "force kiss" her and touch her breasts, while she began to get dizzy and weak.

"(Svekla) said he was going to break my neck and put my body where nobody was going to find it," she added.

The complainant said she did the only thing that came to her mind, she played dead.

Svekla relented. Then when he turned his back she grabbed her shoes and ran out the door with him chasing behind.

"I ran and screamed," she told Garcia during questioning.

The court played an audio recording of an RCMP interview with Svekla dated Aug. 5, 2005. In it, Svekla told RCMP he asked the complainant over to his house, thinking she might clean it in exchange for a place to stay.

"I didn't want to have sex with her," he said. "I was lonely. I just wanted to have company."

Once there, Svekla said she began to be unreasonable, asking for drugs and liquor, which he said he didn't have.

"I said you have to go," said Svekla in the interview. "I pushed her up the stairs."

Svekla was unable in the recorded conversation to account for the bruises the complainant suffered to her neck, back, nose and chest.

Svekla was convicted on June 3 of second-degree murder in the slaying of prostitute Theresa Innes, 36.

He was also found guilty of offering an indignity to a body for transporting Innes's wire-bound and wrapped remains in a hockey bag from High Level to his sister's garage in Fort Saskatchewan in 2006.

However, Svekla was acquitted on identical charges in the 2004 death of prostitute Rachel Quinney, 19. He is appealing the conviction.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Chris on September 05, 2008, 01:07:42 AM
I hope they get him on this charge. Clearly this man is a sexual predator.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: Adrian on September 09, 2008, 12:40:10 PM

Let us hope, he gets more time, that fraking killer, predator, and pedophile.!!!


By CURTIS HAUGAN, SUN MEDIA
   

PEACE RIVER -- Convicted killer Thomas Svekla will be sentenced Oct. 10 after being found guilty of sexual assault and uttering death threats.

The trial by jury ended Thursday, a day earlier than anticipated. It cut short Svekla's break from prison, where he is serving a life sentence for second-degree murder for the 2006 killing of Theresa Innes.

The sex assault victim, who cannot be named due to a publication ban, told the Court of Queen's Bench that in the early morning of Aug. 4, 2005, Svekla invited her to his basement suite in High Level, 738 km northwest of Edmonton, for drinks.

Once there, he attacked her.

"He attacked me from behind," she told the court. "He grabbed my throat and my hair ... I thought I was going to die, I couldn't do anything."

She said he tried to take off her pants and began to "force kiss" her and touch her breasts, while she began to get dizzy and weak.

"(Svekla) said he was going to break my neck and put my body where nobody was going to find it," she added.

The victim said she did the only thing that came to her mind: she played dead. When he relented, she escaped.

He was convicted on June 3 of second-degree murder in the slaying of Innes, 36.

Svekla was also found guilty of offering an indignity to a body for transporting Innes's wire-bound and wrapped remains in a hockey bag from High Level to his sister's garage in Fort Saskatchewan in 2006.

Svekla was acquitted on identical charges in the 2004 death of prostitute Rachel Quinney, 19.
Title: Re: Thomas Svekla Trial
Post by: jellybean on March 16, 2018, 12:19:13 AM
To bring this up to date.

Can't locate the background, but it appears as though his sentence was changed from  years, to indefinite - He was designated a dangerous offender and will be locked up indefinitely.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/sex-killer-thomas-svekla-locked-up-indefinitely-1.516309

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he Canadian Press
Published Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:56PM EDT
EDMONTON - An Alberta judge has ruled that a prostitute killer and violent sex offender is dangerous and must stay in prison indefinitely.
The decision in Court of Queen's Bench on Thursday is the end of a legal odyssey for Thomas Svekla, 42, a one-time mechanic who once boasted about being a serial killer.
"Mr. Svekla has a pathology for which there is no cure," Justice Kristine Eidsvik said in her ruling. "It's remarkable the number of people he has injured or harmed."