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Title: Karla Homolka
Post by: Carol-Lynn on December 15, 2007, 11:19:00 AM
 
    December 15, 2007

Karla takes off for CaribbeanSeeks normal life for young son: TVA report

By CP
 

Karla Homolka, seen here in 2005, is living somewhere in the Antilles with her husband and year-old son, says the TVA network. (file photo)
MONTREAL -- A Quebec television report says Karla Homolka, who served 12 years in jail for the lurid killings of two Ontario schoolgirls in the 1990s, has left Canada for the Caribbean.

The French-language TVA network reported yesterday Homolka had relocated somewhere in the Antilles, the chain of islands forming the Greater West Indies.

The network said she left with her child and husband, who is originally from the Caribbean.

TVA did not identify the source for its information. It said her lawyer did not have any comment and that Homolka would not grant an interview.

Tim Danson, lawyer for the families of Homolka's victims, said yesterday that he was unaware of the report that Homolka had left the country.

"I have not heard that and they don't need to certainly tell me that in advance," he said.

 
 
Although Homolka is a convicted felon, Danson says she's not bound to Canada.

"There's no restrictions on her. So, she's free as a bird. Although being allowed into another country, that's interesting."

"I mean if she left the country that means another country has to allow her in.

"That would be interesting."

Homolka was handed a 12-year manslaughter sentence for her part in the sex-slayings of Ontario teens Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French.

Homolka was released from jail almost three years ago and did not have any limits on her freedom.

TVA said Homolka decided to leave Canada so she could give her one-year-old child a normal life.

Homolka has moved several times in the Montreal area since her release. She was tracked down by media after she got a job at a hardware store in nearby Longueuil.

Homolka's plea-bargain deal in the slayings, in exchange for testimony against former husband Paul Bernardo, sparked outrage after videotapes surfaced that suggested she was more a willing participant and less a victim of Bernardo.

The sentence also took into consideration her role in the 1990 death of her 15-year-old sister Tammy, who died on Christmas Eve after Homolka held a drug-soaked cloth over her face so Bernardo could rape her.

http://www.ottawasun.com/News/National/2007/12/15/pf-4725594.html
 
 
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: never_lose_hope on March 05, 2008, 10:13:05 AM
Let me share for a moment how much I despise the being of this monster. I was just a young child when this whole tragedy unfolded, my mother pertective as she is, sheltered my siblings and I from the huge amount of media coverage turning the news off when these stories would come on, so it wasn't until grade 11 Law some 5/6 years ago that I really heard all about this and begain to look into the case a little more myself (mind you I find it hard to do without feeling sick to my stomach!)

I believe whole heartedly that Homolka is more guilty that Bernardo himself. Who GIVES their little sister to their fiance for Christmas?? How unspeakably evil! She also was the one who befriended the girls and brought them to the home of the two to be tortured. I know my husband is a pedophile and rapist, but really I'm just to abused and scared to say anything? Bullshit! You enjoy this stuff in the same sick way he does, they were sexually explicit with each other from day one, having sex in a room with their friends present, sitting in a very awkward situation..

On that note, She has a kid!!! She is not just a murderer can I remind everyone she is also a pedophil she did assist in raping these young girls, using a bottle on her own sister to my recollection! Yet she has a child? Some law should be able to take children off of pedophiles, I can only imagine the awful life that child will lead. What gives her the right to have kids anyway, The girls she murdered and raped will never have the chance to have children let alone graduate highschool, buy a car or LIVE a life hell she didn't even grant those girls the right to die pure or in peace. IF I had the choice to rid the world of one person, it would definately be this monster.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Adrian on March 05, 2008, 01:26:03 PM


Karla, and Paul, : A Marriage sealed in hell!!!

They met, had sex within the first hour, so they say, then tuned into each others twisted fantasies, like white, on rice. I don't know who had the power, sometimes I think Bernardo/s fist ruled, then I think Karla ruled , or was she giving into him? Her own sister, raped, drugged, in the house, and then murdered, while her family upstairs, how narcissistic can people get? I saw the pics of that witch smiling and laughing, and it is sickening, and horrific that they would do this to her own flesh and blood.

Plus they picked up two school girls, for their own demented pleasure. They were killed, and also were not all three of the girls taped? It defies my imagination, on what these two killers have done, and also how many never made it to discovery, if any, and how many they molested.

Karla got her psychology degree, so is well acquainted with the terms used and what they mean. I wonder what her new husband is like. Who holds the whip so to speak.Scary thought, and they are out of this country in the Carribean? I worry about their child, and everyone elses there.

They should both be serving life sentances. I still am on the fence of the DP, but slowly falling off. Some creeps never learn. Look at Teskey. Pickton, Olson, and so many more. These sexually sadistic homicidal maniacs, will never change, ever. They go on, and on. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Chris on March 06, 2008, 12:17:57 AM
Let me share for a moment how much I despise the being of this monster. I was just a young child when this whole tragedy unfolded, my mother pertective as she is, sheltered my siblings and I from the huge amount of media coverage turning the news off when these stories would come on, so it wasn't until grade 11 Law some 5/6 years ago that I really heard all about this and begain to look into the case a little more myself (mind you I find it hard to do without feeling sick to my stomach!)

I believe whole heartedly that Homolka is more guilty that Bernardo himself. Who GIVES their little sister to their fiance for Christmas?? How unspeakably evil! She also was the one who befriended the girls and brought them to the home of the two to be tortured. I know my husband is a pedophile and rapist, but really I'm just to abused and scared to say anything? Bullshit! You enjoy this stuff in the same sick way he does, they were sexually explicit with each other from day one, having sex in a room with their friends present, sitting in a very awkward situation..

On that note, She has a kid!!! She is not just a murderer can I remind everyone she is also a pedophil she did assist in raping these young girls, using a bottle on her own sister to my recollection! Yet she has a child? Some law should be able to take children off of pedophiles, I can only imagine the awful life that child will lead. What gives her the right to have kids anyway, The girls she murdered and raped will never have the chance to have children let alone graduate highschool, buy a car or LIVE a life hell she didn't even grant those girls the right to die pure or in peace. IF I had the choice to rid the world of one person, it would definately be this monster.

I tottally agree with that. It was insane they let this woman walk out after so little time. In my experience, there are women out there who get turned on by pedophiles and sex creeps. There are 2 women in particular on the amw who fall head over heels for every pedo creep who shows up on that site spewing his pedo liberation crap. Karla is clearly a monster and I am sure she will make her child available for men to have sex with, she is definetly that demented. How can those crown attorneys sleep at night?
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Chris on March 06, 2008, 12:20:06 AM
Oh I agree ADrian, to hear what they both did together, I am so angry they let this beast slip away. I am even distrubed any country would let that trash in there country. It bothers me so much they were going to let her out after 4 years, only public outrage kept her locked up the full 12 years.



Karla, and Paul, : A Marriage sealed in hell!!!

They met, had sex within the first hour, so they say, then tuned into each others twisted fantasies, like white, on rice. I don't know who had the power, sometimes I think Bernardo/s fist ruled, then I think Karla ruled , or was she giving into him? Her own sister, raped, drugged, in the house, and then murdered, while her family upstairs, how narcissistic can people get? I saw the pics of that witch smiling and laughing, and it is sickening, and horrific that they would do this to her own flesh and blood.

Plus they picked up two school girls, for their own demented pleasure. They were killed, and also were not all three of the girls taped? It defies my imagination, on what these two killers have done, and also how many never made it to discovery, if any, and how many they molested.

Karla got her psychology degree, so is well acquainted with the terms used and what they mean. I wonder what her new husband is like. Who holds the whip so to speak.Scary thought, and they are out of this country in the Carribean? I worry about their child, and everyone elses there.

They should both be serving life sentances. I still am on the fence of the DP, but slowly falling off. Some creeps never learn. Look at Teskey. Pickton, Olson, and so many more. These sexually sadistic homicidal maniacs, will never change, ever. They go on, and on. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: rlaughton on April 30, 2008, 02:53:28 PM
Just my few words on this topic, I have mentioned to friends and they say "never thought of that - could be right!"

I think everyone more or less agrees that Paul Bernardo was the "Scarborough Rapist" but I don't think that was ever proven or needed to be proven.

I believe that Karla Homolka was one of the victims of Paul Bernardo when he was just the Scarborough Rapist - she liked it and agreed to come back for more - that is why it was never reported.  The locations match.

Comments?
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Chris on May 01, 2008, 04:24:05 AM
Wow! I never thought of that. Karla a victim who liked it? She does seem to be twisted enough. She raped her own sister.

Well, I think now we'll see a lot more police resources being put back into these cases. I bet Karla takes off for good to avoid being questioned. Maybe someone in prison heard her confess? Those won't be enough though.

Just want to see him face justice for his crimes, and it would be nice to try Karla again.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: wildchild on May 03, 2008, 06:58:32 PM
I think Karla is guilty of a lot more than we know about. She was the one who got the drugs to sedate the young girls. The things that were done to these young girls during and after, is totally insane. Read up on Leslie Mahaffy or Kristen French, you will see how warped the gruesome twosome were.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Chris on May 05, 2008, 12:56:24 AM
I've read quite a lot. There is a concern there is a male female group working in Edmonton and beyond as well. Svleka, the edmonton serial killer, he had a girlfriend who went to prison for a different murder.

Makes me wonder if there are more out there.

And yes, I think Karla did more. Who knwos what, just hope they find out soon.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: never_lose_hope on November 04, 2008, 08:56:01 AM
So I was thinking about this last night...

does it terrify anyone else that we don't really no where she is anymore??? She went to that island almost a year ago, but for all we know could be back and looking much different again... creeps me out and terrifies me... especially since she has a kid and inevitably because of this will be around other kids through hers... feels so wrong!
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Chris on November 05, 2008, 01:37:12 AM
Yeah it is unnerving. It is weird any other country would let her in.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Syiena on November 05, 2008, 08:50:11 AM
she's served her time, therefore she's free to do what she wants.  This absolutely terrifies me, because she's out there somewhere and we don't have a clue where or what's she doing.

I agree, I think she had more to do with these crimes then she's letting on. 

One thing I know for sure is:  this makes me sick to my stomach.

Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: never_lose_hope on November 05, 2008, 09:06:46 AM
I am certain she had far more involvement than what was claimed and I think police know this. Not only that but in jail the crimes Bernardo has confessed to she was also involved in a fair number of them.... he's challenged police to polygraph her.. I think this would prove it..
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Chris on November 06, 2008, 12:12:53 AM
It would be great if they can pin another crime on the pair. I am sure there is more out there they can use to convict her.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: prettyprecious on December 02, 2008, 03:17:46 PM
Karla Holmolka no longer goes by the name "Carla Teal",and anyway it was at the time I was in prison with her spelled "Karla Teale". Also, in response to member Chris, you'll never hear of a "real", and "true", confession whispered to another inmate, only because the whole time period that I knew her in prison, in Kingston, Ontario,at the now closed down infamous Prison For Women, she steadfastly stood her ground that she was fearful of her husband. One really unreal conversation I remember taking place was when I was telling this women about another inmate that was actively pursing me, and wanting me to be with her, and Karla pipes in,"" thats gross,""it's like she truly lives in another world, like we all don't know what she's there for,we all know that she had sex acts with her sister and Kristin and Leslie, the victims. Karla acted like a princess, and in turn she was treated like one by the correctional officers, the teachers, the librarian and all the counselors. The C.O's even played cards and spent time sitting and watching T.v. with her. The reason they could only give her12 years was because the had already made " the deal with the devil" {as it was called}, with her before they got their hands on the tapes showing her as more than an "unwilling participant", in what took place. The prosecutions reasoning was that if they "reneged" on their deal with her, no one in the future would divulge any information that they held in relation to crimes, in fear that whatever deals they made with the courts and prosecution could possibly be broken, and not upheld. That being said, I feel that when someone has completed their sentence, they have served their legal obligation, and are entitled just the same as the rest as the world to live their lives out the best way they know how. Some may not like it, but if you hold the laws of the land in high regard,than this you must too.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Chris on December 02, 2008, 03:38:23 PM
How come that does not surprise me at all? The princess gets her special treatment. I guess the C.O.'s thought she was a celeberty or something.

I guess for the rest of her life she was claim she was scared of her husband, and there may be some truth to it. But I think that is also what made him so attrative to her, was that he was a violent sick demented psychopath.... just like her.

The video that came out later on proved that she enjoyed this as much as Paul did and it is too bad the justice system felt they 'needed' her testimony when there was more then enough evidence to get a conviction.

Surprise me one more time. Did she ever seem to express any guilt or anything about her crimes?
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: maggie on December 02, 2008, 04:05:22 PM
I've always thought along the same lines as most of you.  Bernardo was 'only'  (roll my eyes at that) a rapist until he hooked up with Homolka.  I firmly believe that she was the one who escalated the crimes to murder. 

Does anyone else feel that reproductive rights should be removed via sterilization in the case of sexual offenses against minors?  Why should they be allowed to breed victims closer to home?

I don't know about Homolka, but I have heard that Bernardo had been repeatedly sexually victimized by his step father when he was young.  I wonder if his mother ever did anything about it?  Does anyone think that its dispicable for a parent to protect their partner from full scrutiny of the law?  Does anyone else agree that a parent should be charged with reckless endangerment if they do protect their partner and not their child?

I'm probably going to get a few women pissed off at me.  I have this crazy notion that most wicked people are the result of what a mother did, or failed to do, in raising that child.  Did she barter the child's safety for financial security?  Did she raise the child around a violent and alcoholic man or was she one herself?  Did she even make an effort to avoid conception until it was with someone worthy of being a father to her child?  Did she help that child have the best chance to be educated, the best chance to be healthy, both mentally and physically?  Was the child a priority in her life and did the child KNOw AND TRUST that?

Now, all of those circumstances aside.  I believe that both Homolka and Bernardo are mentally ill beyond any help at this point and should be behind bars for the rest of their natural lives.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Chris on December 03, 2008, 12:00:03 AM
Well it is probably true some kids become freaks because of what Mom did or did not do, but it is also true the same happened because of Dad. It would be difficult to put the blame on just the mother.

I've always felt TV is the worst thing for kids, it seems serial killers and sex crimes took off after the 60's and that is when TV starting blasting us with all sorts of horror.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Adrian on December 03, 2008, 04:09:03 AM

When a child is being victimized in their own home, and the father, or step father, is sexually, and emotionally abusive, then the mother should also be held accountable.I hate that f'ing word denial. when it comes to abuse in the home. My mother knewwhat was happening and did nothing to stop it. Actually a few people knew, and the abuse continued.

No child should have to sleep with one eye open, or put a knife in the door, and sleep on the floor fully clothed, in case the sickoe creep tries getting in.

Plus mothers who stay with such men deserve punishment as well.

Karla Homolka, should never have been released, she was a hard wired babe, with a psychopathic mind.She was selfish, cruel, despicable, and a pedophile, as well as killing her own sister, and Leslie, and Kirsten.

No I don't believe in all the laws of this country. Both her and Bernardo deserved the death penalty. Since we no longer have that, then, life in prison. They don't leave till they die...JMO >:( >:( >:( >:(

I know P4W is closed, but I thought Karla did her time in Quebec?There are many sexually abused women in prison, it is a wonder, none of the girls beat her up. In PQ, she was not known as well.I really think that she would have been shanked in P4W...

Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: waabzy on December 03, 2008, 06:51:42 AM
Welcome to the board prettyprecious!
I used to go into P4W, attending some of the Native Sisterhood events,and with a programme that a group of us did called Healing through Music with Faith Nolan. We went in and sang songs with women from a number of the ranges every few weeks for about a year.
Many other women reported what you just did about Karla, who, much to her dismay I am sure, was not all "That important" to the other women inside.
We all know that if she hadn't been held in seg during her incarceration she may not have lived long enough to be released.

You must have known Carolyn Connolly then? She was doing time at the time Karla was there. Are you aware Carolyn was brutally murdered here in Toronto on Aug. 2, 2008? She was my cousin.
Take care. Stay strong!
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: prettyprecious on December 03, 2008, 09:58:25 AM
Maggie, your  absolutely right, Paul Bernardo was the Scarborough rapist and he has been convicted in some of the rapes, and through all of the rapes, no one ever had been murdered until Karla came along,as far as we know. I believe she was a master manipulater and that she had her "fun" with her husband and the victims and then when all was said and done she was jealous at what her husband had done with them and wanted them dead. Paul was always looking for a virgin to fulfill all his fantasies and Karla wasn't able to give that to him, the closest thing to that, that she could give him was her sister, and that was where it began. Also, after her sister was dead, she started inviting a friend of her dead sisters over for little overnight pajama parties, under the guise of reminising about Tammy and Paul and Karla used the Halothane that killed her sister and made her choke on her vomit and stop breathing on the friend when she feel asleep. Halothane is used on animals in a vetrinary setting to knock animals out for surgery, and it is administered with a special device. Karla just soaked a rag with it and covered their faces with it, which can cause an overdose, the friend actually stopped breathing and she called 911, but then moments later she came around so they called 911 back and said everything was ok now. I think that they should have responded to the call regardless.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: prettyprecious on December 03, 2008, 10:11:55 AM
In response to Chris, I've never seen Karla acting as though she were remorseful or take any responsibility for what happened. She wanted everyone to feel sorry for her. She had pictures of her dead sister Tammy on her cell walls across from her bed and she seemed to have an obsession with anything "Disney" related. We were allowed to have 4 boxes of personal belongings sent in at the beginning of our sentences and she had Mickey and Minnie Mouse sheets, comforter and different Disney shirts and jacket.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: prettyprecious on December 03, 2008, 10:31:57 AM
The reason that Karla moved to the Carribean was because even though she is currently married, when she was still in prison, she was writing a guy who is also in prison that killed his wife, and at the time of Karla's release they were trying to put the condition on her that she could not associate with him because they believed that together Karla and him would ultimately repeat the same type of offenses that she and Paul had. Seperately, the threat was reduced, but together they felt it was the same personality mix that would repeat history. So she married this other guy on the outside and the guy she was writing in prison is the guy that is actually from the Carribean, it was convenient to flee there to get out of the public spotlight, because she is just biding her time with her husband out there until her real true "love" is released from prison, and returns to his home country to join her, where I imagine her "current" husband will be left in her trails and God only knows what will become of her child and the publics safety with the too of them together!!!
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: waabzy on December 03, 2008, 10:34:43 AM
It would be interesting to find out WHO she married. WHO is this guy that would marry this monster and allow her to have his child?
Pretty scary.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: prettyprecious on December 03, 2008, 10:47:43 AM
In response to Adrian, Karla DID do time in P4W, she began her time there in 1993 and THEN was tranferred to Joliet in Quebec in 1998, I should know, we were the last 13 girls left and transferred out in August 1998. As much as people wold like to believe in typically movie "stereotypes" she was not ever "shanked" or an attempt even made, the most that ever happened was that she had a telephone that staff plug in to the wall for inmates to get there free phone call home a week thrown at her head. Canadian prisons are not as bad as American ones, not saying that you are American , but thats where it's more likely to happen, also in men's prisons.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: prettyprecious on December 03, 2008, 11:21:32 AM
Hello, to Waabzy!! I don't remember you, but probably would if I saw you. Did Carolyn go by the name Colleen? I'm just trying to think if it's the same person. I'm really sorry to hear what happened to your cousin. It's really very sad and angers me that so many women are being preyed upon, and especially women who are already society's most vulnerable women and women who have already gone through so much already in life and had to go through so much healing to be once again be victimized even in death and to be taken from us in such a way.You must remember Joey Twins then? She was actually with the girl I'm thinking of named Colleen? I remember Colleen coming back to P4W after she was released to visit Joey in the PFV. But I had heard that Colleen had passed away from her illness, so maybe it's not the same person. Either way, I'm really sorry for your loss, it makes me sick what people do to one another. I was in the SNU for awhile in P4W, thats how i was able to get so close to Karla, but your right, she's very lucky she walked out of there. I'm setting up an appointment with a career counselor to help point me in the right direction on where to go to get funding and where to enroll in school to become a drug and alcohol counselor. I was enrolled last year in a drug and alcohol course and had paid part of the tuition and started it, only to find out that it wasn't really accredited and that I couldn't hope to find good employment with it once completed. I wish you and your family all the best and pray for healing for the pain brought to you and your family from Caroyln's death.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Chris on December 03, 2008, 12:00:51 PM
She wanted everyone to feel sorry for her.

Like most sicko's do.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: waabzy on December 03, 2008, 12:01:08 PM
Hi Precious! Carolyn was Colleen  and Margaret's sister. All 3 were in B range back then. Yes Coll passed away about six months after being released from P4W...... just enough time to get her boys back and start over. Their other sister Trish who you may have met at any one of the Socials also passed away about 2 years ago. Carolyn was the  middle one in age between Marg and Colleen.WTG sister on your future plans!!! I wish you the best!!!
WHere are you living now?
I know Joey well......... we probably know a LOT of the same people!
Feel free to private message me here.
Take care. Stay strong!
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: waabzy on December 03, 2008, 12:02:09 PM

Like most sicko's do.
yeah but as Karla found out Chris, at P4W it didn't go too far lol.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Adrian on December 03, 2008, 02:33:21 PM


prettyprecious, I am happy you met up with waabzy. It is fantastico you are going back to school, as we need people who have been in the system, and know the ropes, to educate our youth, and brothers, and sisters.

You have a good way of speaking, and your words will be listened to, Take care, and Stay safe! ((HUGS))

PS: I don't even want to think of Karla hooking up with the guy who killed his wife.A psychopath has no remorse, and is incapable of feelings, so yes, I do believe they would team up to commit more crimes.I also hope she has no children of her own.

Thanks lots for coming here... :)
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: never_lose_hope on December 03, 2008, 03:35:18 PM
I'm glad other people are just as bothered about her having a kid. and agree with whom ever said people who commit crimes against children she be unable to have kids.... Everyone forgets She's a freaking pedophile!!! Sickens me, and it doesn't surprise me that she  doesn't feel remorse she's just concerned about HER life and living HER life blah blah blah why should she get to when those girls don't get a second chance!!! Makes me so mad. I've been having a lot of nightmares about it recently... has to mean something but anyway..

Welcome to the board pretty
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: maggie on December 04, 2008, 11:31:00 AM
"(Chris) Well it is probably true some kids become freaks because of what Mom did or did not do, but it is also true the same happened because of Dad. It would be difficult to put the blame on just the mother."

I lay the prime responsibility on the mother because, outside of rape, a woman controls the life of a child from the moment of conception. 

Every time we have a sexual encounter, without taking levels of protection against conception, we risk choosing a potential male role model for a child.

We have a choice as to whether a child is born.

We can choose to drink or do drugs or ignore our health during our pregnancy and seriously impact that child's future.

We can choose to give our child to a family that can offer it everything we wish we could.

These are all choices and responsibilities that a father cannot share with a mother. 

Finally, we can choose our child over any of our other needs when the man in our life hurts them. 
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: prettyprecious on December 04, 2008, 12:23:55 PM
Waabzy, I thought the names sounded familiar!!! Wow, so much tragedy in your family hon. I probably did see Trish at one of the socials but I can't remember, I'm so sorry about Trish's passing. I do remember Margaret faintly too. I first went to A range, then SNU for programs and therapy,{after it was no longer seg} and at the end before the prison closed on B range. I live in Hamilton now, and I can't wait to start school! I will p.m. you later, not sure how just yet!! Lots of love!!!
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: prettyprecious on December 04, 2008, 12:37:46 PM
Thank you Adrian for the kind message, your absolutely right, having found myself in many places that others may be in or headed for, I really want to reach out to our youth and anyone in need and be able to talk with them and share my experiences, tell people what worked for me and what didn't and hopefully spare others from having a life fueled by drugs or alcohol and to make choices that they are happy with and are able to live with. I also think that by talking with people when they are young {1 on 1} and truly listening you may sometimes be able to identify a "Karla" or a "Paul" in the making. Some people will always be who they are and no matter how much therapy or conditioning you do the end result will always be the same.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: prettyprecious on December 04, 2008, 12:41:14 PM
never_lose_hope: Thank you for the welcome :)
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: prettyprecious on December 04, 2008, 01:28:16 PM
Maggie: I have never heard it said that Paul's step father sexually molested him, however Paul's step father was a peeping tom he had even been charged in the in relation to it, and in the beginning Paul was doing the same thing when Karla's sister Tammy was alive, he purposely adjusted Tammy's blinds so he could see in better and he even went as far as to masturbate on to Tammy's pillow when she was asleep. {Sick Bastard} Paul also had an extreme, intense hatred for his mother, because around the age 16, she finally revealed to him that his "father" was not his biological father and that Paul was the result of an affair, and he always felt his mother "dirty" because of it. His mother was a large obnoxious, loud, abrasive woman, whose vocabulary was very colorful, even at inappropriate times including Paul and Karla's wedding party, and took to sitting on the floor of the venue in her full leg cast and making a scene of herself. I agree that parents should be held accountable if they don't act on abuse or allegations of abuse. Paul and Karla were in the car together when they pulled over in a church parking lot and Karla got out with a map under the ruse of asking Kristin French for directions.Paul then got out of the car and came behind Kristin with a knife and they forced her into the car. Kristin was seated in the front passenger seat with Karla sitting in the back behind her holding her back in the seat and pulling on her hair. During the struggle Kristin left behind one of her moccasins and a corner of the map was ripped off and police found that too. The map that Karla had pulled out and was showing to Kristin was a map of Burlington, Ontario, and here they were in St.Catharines asking for directions in St.Catharines. Kristin was from St. Catharines and her body strangely enough was found in Burlington. Ontario. Also,  Leslie Mahaffy was from Burlington,and her body was found in St.Catherines encased in 9 cement blocks in the lake.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: waabzy on December 04, 2008, 10:14:53 PM
[quote uthor=prettyprecious link=topic=1331.msg20138#msg20138 date=1228415035]
Waabzy, I thought the names sounded familiar!!! Wow, so much tragedy in your family hon. I probably did see Trish at one of the socials but I can't remember, I'm so sorry about Trish's passing. I do remember Margaret faintly too. I first went to A range, then SNU for programs and therapy,{after it was no longer seg} and at the end before the prison closed on B range. I live in Hamilton now, and I can't wait to start school! I will p.m. you later, not sure how just yet!! Lots of love!![/quote]
You know sister,  often when I would be with Carolyn or Coll after their release and we were just hanging out, laughing together, or talking about "before's" I would often look into their eyes and see what so many others never got to see..... that they were loving sensitive,not as tough as they would have liked everyone to believe they were, and that they had hearts of gold. Yes Trish attended the socials when she wasn't in Vanier LOL. Carolyn, especially took time to trust anyone. She had reasons to not trust and everyone had to earn her trust. She would look deeply into peoples eyes, they say as though she was looking deep into their spirit until she got to know them.  This story has been repeated over and over again at each vigil by those she knew.
To have Coll die so soon after her release was heartbreaking.  Then for Trish to have her beautiful little girl, only to die so unexpectedly about 7 years later, and now Carolyn being so brutally murdered is about all I can handle. 
They are heavy on my mind and in my heart tonight. 
Margaret is doing well. She remained in Kingston after her release.
Did you know Patrice O'Donnell as well?  Patrice and I were in foster care and in the system together for years. I only heard of her death when  I was in PEI of all places about to speak at an AIDS Conference for youth when I walked in from having a smoke outside just in time to see Patrice on video at the presentation.
Another precious life lost.
To send private message just click on my name in blue above any of my posts and you will be brought to a page which gives you the option of sending me private message. I would  like to continue this conversation with you off board.
Hamilton is not so far away! I would LOVE to get together with you sometime.
I am SO proud  of you for returning to school! I wish you only the best. Stay strong!
Hugs

Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: never_lose_hope on March 09, 2009, 05:04:15 PM
Okay haven't read this post in a while but read A LOT of material on this case since,

one correction on Pretty's comments about how the Kristen French thing went down, it was a map of Scarborough (not that it matters, I'm not picking at you or anything but it's Paul's home town and where he was the Scarborough rapist)

Also although Paul was not sexually abused that we know of his sister Debbie was by Paul's "father" (step father actually) and then Debbie's daughter was sexually abused by her grandfather Kenneth Bernardo (Paul's step father) he was actually in jail serving time for the sex abuse when Paul was arrested finally. Debbie then requested (after having finally put him behind bars for his abuse) to request he be let out she forgave him and thought he was needed with his family at the time.


Just random stuff but thought it might help make sense of the whole "where they come from" theory also Karla's mom is freaking nuts! After picking out their daughter (Tammy)'s casket they went home and "fucked" as she told her friend/ neighbour .... not something I'd particularly be doing after such an event but anyway Dorothy Homolka isn't all there either.

Like I said I've been reading a LOT Of stuff on this case to gain some understanding toough to read but if any one is curious about anything let me know and I can answer questions if I've read about it...
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: mauvelilac on March 09, 2009, 05:41:11 PM
You know Never, my daughter bought me that big blue book, the title escapes me but it's written by Stephen again the last name escapes me. I read two chapters and that was about say five years ago and I haven't been able to pick it up since. Those two beautiful girls, dead so young, their lives eradicated by two selfish, evil (I'm sorry) evil people.
When I was in PEI, I bought the book that was banned for sale in Canada, I guess that's when the trial was going on. I don't know why they banned it because it didn't say anything the other three hadn't touched on. The store owner was so worried I'd be caught with the book and forced to tell where I bought it.
Karla should still be in jail. They never should have made any kind of deal with her. I'm glad at least that she isn't in Canada anymore. I don't even think her own son is safe around that woman. No matter how well or often you wash a rotten egg, it still is what it is, a rotten egg.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: never_lose_hope on March 09, 2009, 05:56:09 PM
Mauv,

I read "Invisible Darkness" Stephen Williams and " Lethal Marriage" by Nick Pron out of the two I prefered Invisible darkness as I felt that at points Lethal took on the pitty role towards the mid-end still a well written book but I hate any ounce of pitty for that beast.

and I agree that no one is safe with that wench she is evil and I don't feel bad saying it for a second. I  fully believe she killed the girls for a LOT Of reasons.. the autopsy's don't match her account of how they died! She is a liar who studied the battered wife syndrome to use to plead her case and save her ass. Anyway I should probably be quiet as I've gotten ripped apart on other sites for this issue not that I think that will happen here but I am VERY opinionated on her guilt.

As a mentioned before a while bag Mauv I'm like you in the sense that I am very very intuitive and although I haven't truly learned to use this skill I do often have dreams which then come true (not in a fun way usually) and I've had dreams about them and feel strongly there is at least one other muder they are responsible for, don't know if you've had simmilar feelings/thoughts/ dreams (not sure how it comes to you actually, don't think I've ever asked that). anyway just my thoughts and opinions no fact in my thoughts but I do THINk ONe day we'll find out more.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: mauvelilac on March 10, 2009, 08:40:47 AM
I remembered the name of the book this morning. LOL but I still couldn't remember the authors last name. I can't get through that book, it just disturbs me to no end. I finished a chapter and a half and it's still sitting there, someday maybe.
I feel she's guiltier for the ultimate murders than Paul is. He took them, there's no doubt about that, he raped them, again no doubt but the murders I think she committed to pay him back for Tammy's demise. And pay him back she did.
I seldom dream. In the case of Nicole Morin, I had wicked dreams for weeks after she went missing, but in Paul and Karla's case, whenever I saw that camaro the officials were searching for, I'd say to my daughter, wrong car, the cars all wrong, when Leslie was missing I saw concrete and body parts literally. I won't go on, sometimes what I see is too graphic. I saw a lot in this case, where Kristens body was, that her hair was cut, that she was wrapped up, on and on. It infuriated me they bought an American psychic in when I was telling them where to go.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: never_lose_hope on March 11, 2009, 07:52:56 AM
That has to make your furious! Why bring in a US psychic to assist while you're already providing them to tips/ clues they could investigate.. disgusting but a lot of aspects of that case were handled incorrectly.

The book was very difficult to read at times, I've just always been one of thoe people who has to try and discover why people do the things they do and I thought I might determine more after reading it... they're both still just nuts but I do agree and always have felt Karla is MORE guilty then Paul... he is GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY! But she literally brought him girls as "gifts" to torture and rape... and giving your sister as a Christmas gift.... disgusting! She killed her sister! Drugged her... killed... I hope karma gets her.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: leonagleant on January 18, 2012, 04:20:36 PM
I understand karla now has not one but two children with her husband in the Antilles. She also operates a web site to sell cotton diapers under her new name and has been caught stealing ideas and text from other businesses and posting personal information on parents web sites under this new name.

There is a alot of misinformation or mysterious info circulating about karla on the net. The rumour of her affair with the porn star is denied as a fabrication, but oddly the porn star Luka Magnotta does look like he could be Paul Bernardo's brother! So maybe where there's smoke there's fire...her actual husband and father of her child named Theirry Bordelais looks nothing like the porn star and is a not very attractive. (Luka is olive skinned and Thierry is dark skinned.)
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: eyeswideopen on May 30, 2012, 09:15:26 PM
gee if anyone has an internation telephone plan perhaps we should call her and let her know about her old boyfriend being wanted.  Sorry I couldnt help being sarcastic as she is as much a sick of her ex who is wanted for the body parts shipped to Ottawa.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jellybean on June 02, 2012, 06:40:23 PM
This is a long read re: Karla and Magnotta - but well worth it.  McLeans Magazine always have excellent articles.
Apparently, these recent rumours are not facts.  Impossible for them to have ever met.  It gives the timelines.
http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/06/01/magnotta-and-homolka-anatomy-of-a-rumour/

JB
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: leonagleant on June 02, 2012, 07:15:02 PM
I saw that. Amazing how often the media gets things just plain wrong and in this internet age, it's easy for people to research and spot these errors. Another example. If you look under Homolka on Wikipedia you will see they say the National Post has her living with three kids in Montreal! Don't you think there would be an uproar if Homolka had settled down in Montreal with her family? She may well have three kids by now but is more likely still hiding out in Antilles operating her diaper business. The columnist who reported that misinformation is more of an opinion columnist than and news reporter. Amazing their fact checkers didn't spot that one. Wonder if the national post ever bothered to run a correction.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jellybean on June 03, 2012, 08:38:43 PM
I wonder how she was able to leave Canada with a criminal record? What country would have her? How did she obtain a passport in order to leave Canada?
I wonder how that works.

She has changed her name, she has her own children now, and perhaps maturity has set her off on a better path.

JB
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: leonagleant on June 21, 2012, 05:53:02 PM
A new mini "e-book" is out on Karla Homolka, confirming she's a mother of three children in Guadaloupe in the Caribbean:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/21/karla-homolka-is-a-mother-of-three-living-in-the-caribbean-e-book/
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jobo on June 22, 2012, 02:47:57 AM
Did you see the deal Homolka made with the Reporter? (as per above link).    Todd has to reveal how she found Homolka so Homolka can clean up her trail....  This Homolka sure does know how to make deals, doesn't she?   One small problem though, the info is there for all to read, now.  Wonder if Homolka will pack up and move on?
Todd goes on to say she couldn't determine how Homolka and her hubby were employed....
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: never_lose_hope on January 29, 2013, 11:24:50 AM
In respect the Paula Todd's book, I've got to stay there was nothing profound in this, anyone with a brain and google could've known this info, I've been aware of her trail for years and was dissapointed the book revealed no more than sleuthing would. Also TBH it is kind of weird doing what she did but that JMO.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: SAP on September 27, 2013, 03:22:35 PM
I agree with P. Bernardo's father ... Karla got away with murder.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/09/26/paul-bernardo-dad-says-karla-homolka-got-away-with-it

TORONTO - As his sex-killer son settles into his new prison cell thanks to the pending closing of his old home, Paul Bernardo’s father says in his opinion Karla Homolka should still be locked up behind bars, too.

In an exclusive interview with the Toronto Sun on the eve of Kingston Penitentiary shutting its doors after 179 years, Ken Bernardo said it's not easy as a parent of such a notorious killer and understands “it’s worse” for the families of those he was convicted of murdering.

“It's harder on them and it's terrible,” he said from his Scarborough home. “They have to live with it every day.”

Ken Bernardo, who said his son receives daily threats on his life, says “naturally” he feels the pain of the suffering the families of Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy go through.

It’s a constant source of “distress,” he said.

However, while his son is “doing his time like a man,” it does irk him that his former wife Karla Homolka is free, living on the island of Guadalupe with a new husband and children, he said.

“As far as I am concerned, Karla has got away with it and is free but that is a whole other story,” he said.

Karla testified as a witness for the Crown against Paul Bernardo in exchange for a 12-year prison sentence — despite the attempt by Bernardo on the stand to convince the jury that while “responsible” for the deaths of French, Mahaffy and Homolka’s sister Tammy, he did not actually commit the murders.

It was a contention rebuffed by the jury and Bernardo was found guilty of first-degree murder and also declared a dangerous offender.

But his father has always felt Karla got a better shake than she deserved.

It’s the most vocal Ken Bernardo has been on the subject of his son’s ex-wife in any of the half dozen times I have spoken with him in the past 20 years.

But he has hinted before his disdain for the plea arrangement and accommodation she received in what was known as “The Deal with the Devil” and that he felt Karla was more involved with these homicides than the justice system made her pay for.

In 2004, when Toronto Police were looking at his son’s movements as the ‘Scarborough rapist’ and if he could have run across vanished Elizabeth Bain, Ken Bernardo mocked the suggestion.

“It’s not likely,” Bernardo told me. “I think the fact that she (Karla Homolka) doesn’t know anything about it tells me a lot.”

There has never been any love lost between him, his wife Marilyn and Karla.

In fact, when I talked to them on the day their son was arrested in 1993, both talked of a conflict they had with Karla over what would be served for supper at their 1991 wedding.

But Ken Bernardo said when he speaks with Paul these days, “We don’t talk about the past. We just go on. What can you do about it?”

Over the years, he has refused interviews and never been friendly or inviting but Ken Bernardo has also never been rude with me. He tries his best to answer the questions and, while always reluctant to speak, he has also been pointed, unfiltered and frank with his answers.

Ken, who himself has a sexual assault conviction on his record, has expressed to me in past conversations he will not walk away from his son, despite the evil acts.

And this week said that he and his wife Marilyn and the Bernardo siblings “do the best they can” to forge ahead, knowing how horrible Paul’s heinous crimes were and how much destruction he caused.

“It is hard,” he said of what has transpired.

He acknowledged last week a new chapter has started for the Bernardo family, thanks to the Government of Canada’s decision to de-commission the Kingston Pen after housing Canada’s most dangerous people since 1834.

After almost two decades of calling it home, the notorious school girl killer was transferred out of Kingston Pen for a new home to serve out his life sentence.

And, the Sun has learned, from several Corrections Canada sources that new home is down the road 20 minutes at maximum-security Millhaven Penitentiary.

Ken Bernardo confirmed the transfer.

“He was moved out a week ago with a bunch of others,” he said.

There was discussion, he said, of moving him to Quebec to serve time at the same prison where Russell Williams was transferred.

But Paul Bernardo ended up in Millhaven.

Ken Bernardo said it will be a change for the family who had regularly visited their son at KP.

In fact in some of those visits, he said, he met Williams’ wife Mary-Elizabeth Harriman “a couple of times” and found her “to be a very classy lady” and unfairly tarnished in the media.

The senior Bernardo said he would have preferred the old prison remained operational.

“I don’t know why they closed the Kingston Pen,” he said. “They have a lot of inmates double-bunking at Millhaven now. “

But like before, he said, his son is not in general population, mostly for his own protection.

“There are threats on his life every day,” he said.

He said his 49-year-old son will be housed in Millhaven similar to the way he was in Kingston — in a small cell where he sits for 23 hours a day, with one hour for yard time.

“They have a segregation wing there at Millhaven,” said Ken. “Paul did not have any say in it.”

Although he plans to, he has not yet made his way down to Millhaven for a visit, he said.

“But I have talked to Paul on the phone and he’s fine there,” Ken said. “He knows he is serving his punishment. It’s hard but he never complains.”

Ken Bernardo said he has no knowledge of Paul applying to be reclassified and sent to a special housing unit in Bath, as I reported last month.

But it would be extra difficult for this to happen because of the enormous profile his son has.

The elder Bernardo feels because of the “media attention” his son is singled out more than others whose crimes are just as heinous.

However, he realizes it is what it is.

“At least he’s still in Ontario and we will be able to see him from time to time,” said his father.

And, he said, it’s not lost on him the families of those whose lives his son and his former wife stole can no longer do that
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: SAP on October 10, 2013, 09:24:30 AM
On page one or two of this thread, Prettyprecious claimed that Karla's jailhouse penpal was from the Caribbean, where she and her now husband have gone to live. I believe that was an error, as the penpal was a French national according to news articles. Her then penpal Jean-Paul Gerbet lost his bid for parole in 2008 (for murdering his gf) due to his relationship with Karla and was released in 2011 and immediately sent back to France.

 http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/01/karla-homolkas-exlover-granted-parole

It's great that relationship was stopped b/c Karla apparently was quite persuasive with him and fed his ego. There's a lot of mention on the Net about this relationship. Thank God the parole board and the prison saw to it that this did not materialize into more.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jellybean on April 19, 2016, 05:05:25 PM
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2016/04/19/quebec-town-upset-to-learn-karla-homolka-living-among-them

Quebec town upset to learn Karla Homolka living among them

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FIRST POSTED: TUESDAY, APRIL 19, 2016 12:53 PM MDT | UPDATED: TUESDAY, APRIL 19, 2016 02:34 PM MDT

Residents of a Quebec town are shocked and furious after learning notorious schoolgirl killer Karla Homolka is living among them.

Global News reports that Homolka -- who served 12 years in jail for manslaughter in the sex slayings of Ontario teens Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy and her sister Tammy -- has lived in Chateauguay for at least two years.

Residents were in disbelief that they weren’t told Paul Bernardo's ex-wife had been hanging her hat in the Montreal suburban community.

One shaken mom said cops told her the flaxen-haired killer lives in the area and her daughter attends Centennial Park School, according to Global.

Another mother said her kids are friends with Homolka’s children.

The school issued a press release assuring parents that children at Centennial Park are safe.

“As you know, under Quebec Law, all children have the right to privacy and an obligation to be in school,” principal Joanne Daviau added.

“This is why I cannot comment any further or provide any personal information about any family.”

Now using the name Leanne Bordelais, the former vet’s assistant drops her kids off at school and picks them up.

Previously, she lived in the Caribbean island of St. Lucia with her second husband and three children. In October 2014, the trial of killer Luka Magnotta learned from Homolka's sister that she was back living in Quebec.

Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: leonagleant on April 22, 2016, 11:30:19 PM
In all the commentary in the news stories why has no one suggested that child welfare should pay a visit to check on the domestic welfare of her children? People seem so concerned about the effects of them being socially ostracized but not of the effects of being raised by a sadist with no moral compass.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jellybean on April 23, 2016, 10:51:12 AM
http://www.cjad.com/cjad-news-quebec-beyond/2016/04/20/if-youre-worried-move-homolkas-husband-to-chateauguay-residents

If you're worried, move: Homolka's husband to Chateauguay residents
Posted on 4/20/2016 2:48 PM by Richard Deschamps

While the uproar continues over news that convicted sex killer Karla Homolka has been living a quiet life in Chateauguay for the past two years, the man she married in 2007 says their family isn't going anywhere.

"If [parents and residents] are worried, all they have to do is move," her husband told La Presse on Thursday. "They just have to leave. We have our house, sir. It belongs to us."

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The man didn't explain to the paper why they picked Chateauguay to settle. "We're free, we're in a free country. We could have gone to Toronto, we couldn't have gone to Vancouver, but we came here. It's our choice.

"Has anything happened in the last 10 years? Then why are people so concerned? I don't understand why people are concerned."

Homolka, who's now living under another name, was sentenced to 12 years in prison in 1993 for manslaughter in connection with the sex slayings of Ontario schoolgirls Kristin French and Leslie Mahaffy. Her then-husband, Paul Bernardo, continues to serve a life sentence for murder.

Despite the uproar over Homolka's presence, Stephen Feinberg, a lawyer specializing in prisoners' rights, says Homolka has a right to live anywhere she wants.

"I suppose many people live near somebody that makes them feel uncomfortable," he says, "but if that person is not currently breaking the law, there's nothing you can do."

Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jellybean on April 23, 2016, 11:08:22 AM
HERE'S A RADICAL THOUGHT!! :o

If anyone is being harrassed or have reason to live in fear, it would be Karla and her family.
Next thing one knows these town folk will work themselves up to such a pitch that the police will have to step in.  My God, she has lived there for two years without incident. 
Leave her alone!! It is not only Karla that the public wish to further punish - also her children!! To think for a moment that her children should be removed and placed in foster care is barbaric. By all accounts she is a very attentive and protective mother.
She has done horrific things in the past, served her time, and I worry more about the behavior of the citizens than I do Karla's. She has stayed out of trouble, she is raising children with her husband. She keeps to herself, and SHE MINDS HER OWN BUSINESS.  - Perhaps the townsfolk might want to do the same thing.
The so called journalist, who outed her, by going from door to door, should be fired! He/she has created a tempest in a tea pot, where one did not exist, in this othewise peaceful community.  Now anxiety abounds.   Shame!!  How's that for radical thinking?
PEACE
Jellybean

http://www.lfpress.com/2016/04/20/karla-homolka-seemed-pleasant-next-door-neighbour

Karla Homolka 'nice': Next-door neighbour
Katherine Wilton, Montreal Gazette
Thursday, April 21, 2016 10:02:43 EDT AM


MONTREAL - When Bruce Richter lived in Scarborough, Ont., in the early 1990s, he occasionally saw Paul Bernardo walking around the neighbourhood with his girlfriend, Karla Homolka.

“She was very pretty,” Richter recalled of the teenager, who would eventually become one of Canada’s most notorious criminals for her role in the sex killings of two schoolgirls and her 15-year-old sister, Tammy.

So Richter could hardly believe his ears on Wednesday when he learned that all these years later, Homolka was not only living in his Chateauguay neighbourhood on Montreal’s South Shore, but on his street.

“It’s very strange considering I saw her when she was a kid with Bernardo,” Richter said. “One time, my friend chased Bernardo out of the bushes when he was hiding near a (woman’s home).”

Chateauguay residents were stunned to learn this week that Homolka, 45, resides in the community and has children attending Centennial Park, an elementary school that is a short distance from her home.

Homolka is now using the name Leanne Teale, which is the surname that she and Bernardo adopted shortly after their marriage. Teale was a serial killer in the movie Criminal Law and a character that Bernardo admired.

A woman who lives next door to Homolka told the Montreal Gazette that she didn’t know her neighbour’s real identity until this week. She said Homolka has lived on the street for about two years, but said she keeps to herself. “They have been nice people,” said the woman, who refused to give her name. “I feel very sad for the children.”

Richter said, he too, has never spoken to Homolka, but he doubts that it will be easy for her to remain in the community. “She does have a right to stay on the street, but it won’t be fun for her children, especially at school. You know how kids are. It will be hard for her to escape her past.”

He said he believes that some people are still angry that Homolka only received a 12-year sentence for manslaughter for her role in the killings of her sister, 15-year-old Kristen French and 14-year-old Leslie Mahaffy.

Homolka remained inside her home with some of her children on Wednesday and asked reporters to stay off her property. She startled a television reporter when she smacked her hand against a frosted window pane as the reporter was asking to speak to her. Homolka later called the police, who instructed reporters to stay off her property.

Homolka’s husband, who is her former lawyer’s brother, told La Presse on Tuesday that if neighbours were worried, they could simply move.

As news of Homolka’s presence in the community spread, curious residents drove by her two-storey home a short distance from the Chateauguay River.

A parent, whose child attends Centennial Park School, said she was certain that children were talking about Homolka in the schoolyard on Wednesday. “Now I have to explain to my son who she is,” said the parent, who gave her name as Karina. “It’s Karla Homolka. We all know who she is.”

The New Frontiers School Board issued a statement Wednesday saying psychologists and counsellors are available to speak to any parents or children who need their services. The board said it wanted to reassure parents that any adult who works or volunteers directly with students has to undergo a criminal background check.

The statement also said that the issue came to light on the weekend when a reporter went door to door asking if people knew that Karla Homolka was living in the area.

A man who lives across the street from Centennial Park elementary said there has been a lot of commotion at the school since news broke that Homolka’s children are students there. “There are a lot of worried parents,” said the man, who gave his name as Ron.

Ron said he was surprised to hear that Homolka is living in Chateauguay but not surprised that people eventually discovered who she is. “Did she think that she was going to live a normal life?”

Philip Yates turned up at the school on Wednesday to keep an eye on his grandchildren, one of whom may be in class with Homolka’s child.

Yates said he feels badly for Homolka’s three children, whose lives have suddenly become much more difficult and he wonders whether Homolka and her husband will stay in the neighbourhood. “She can’t keep picking up and moving,” he said.

Chateauguay Mayor Nathalie Simon said she understands the concerns of some of her city’s residents.

“The fact that our city is making headlines for something like this is not pleasant,” Simon told the Montreal Gazette on Wednesday.

“I don’t know who buys houses in the city of Chateauguay, I don’t know who moves into my community – it’s the same for any municipality.” She said she “understands people’s questions, the fears that are being expressed (but) I imagine that as a larger society, we have mechanisms in place to protect our citizens, to ensure they are safe.”

 

Andy Riga of the Montreal Gazette contributed to this report
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Sap1 on April 24, 2016, 08:17:05 AM
I so agree with you JB. Not that I give Karla a pass for past deeds, however her children are not criminals and have every right to a normal life. Once media gets a hold of a story, they are the ones who create a feeding frenzy.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Sap1 on April 25, 2016, 07:27:28 PM
And the feeding frenzy is on it's way. A Professor from the University claimed this all could trigger Karla's psycopathy even more. She is cornered now and who knows what to expect. She is a serial killer but she has been stable for a number of years. This is really going to cause a bad backlash for the children. Idiot journalists!!
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: RubyRose on June 11, 2016, 02:08:20 PM
I feel very sorry for her children as well.  None of this is their fault.

The videotapes (which, unfortunately, were not available at the trial) do show, however, that she was a willing and equal accomplice with Bernardo and, in my opinion, for what it's worth, she should have received the same sentence he did, not a sweetheart of a deal simply because she testified against him.  Had that happened this issue would not be arising now.

As well, I believe the public does have a right to know.  I believe if I was the mother of young children or teenagers and lived in that  neighborhood, I would want to know so I could make my own decision how to best deal with the situation.  That would not include harassing her or ostracizing her children.  The second husband sounds like a real sweetheart.  To say that if "anyone is worried they should move" smacks of arrogance.

At the risk of sounding repetitive, once the videotapes surfaced, the whole deal should have been revoked.


Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Mickeygirly@ymail.com on October 14, 2016, 10:41:51 PM
I just have to say KARLA does not deserve to be left alone.  Of course it is not the children's fault but at the same time the government made a terrible terrible mistake and she does NOT deserve a happy normal life.  She knows how to play people!  Her husband can not expect to have a normal life either.  He knew what she was when he married her.    I believed her at the beginning but that changed for a number of reasons.  First when she did not disclose what she did to her own sister and another friend of her sisters after her sister died.  Her little drug cocktail killed her sister yet she did it again.  And from what I heard of the video - she was a willing participant.  But the final straw was the letter she sent to her sister saying that she would change her looks and that people were basically stupid and would forget about her.  Kristen and Leslie will never have the opportunity to walk down the aisle or have children and watch them grow.  I have no problem with them being harassed to the point that if she is truly capable of true love to give her children up to someone so they don't have to live in her shadow.  I think it would be perfect for her to have to deal with the pain of the loss of her children (let me make this clear - by then living with someone so that they are not constantly in the lime light.). She should have thought about this before she had kids... but no - life is all about her.  I really wish she would go back to the islands.  I am around her age and from southern Ontario.  I remember when it all happened.  I have never been a hater ever. But I will tell you this -  I hate that woman and have even said when in my 20's that if I ever found out I was terminally ill that I would go after her.  I think it has to do with right and wrong and that justice was not servered.  So if you ever read this thread - know that I am now 50 and I still don't like you - I hope the media hounds you till your last dying breath but know - know that this is the way that the world makes things right - our justice system failed us miserably with you so we have no choice but to hope that your life is a living hell because I know that  Leslie's and Kristens lives turned into a living hell.  Sorry guys for venting.  Of course I do not carry this hate daily - life is too short - something that is painfully obvious on this site.  My rant is now almost done and I end it by saying that I believe that Karma takes care of things so I need not worry about this pethetic woman a moment longer.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jellybean on October 29, 2016, 04:51:15 PM
I think the great resentment that we all feel is that Karla only served 12 years, and the general consensus is that she should have served longer, even after making a deal and turning against Bernardo.

Plea deals happen all of the time though, and Karla was no exception.  In fact, were it not for Karla, Bernardo would be a free man.

Having said that - some citizens are not letting go and it is shocking......

Lynch mobs still exist. saw fb on Karla. Hatred spewing out of mouths, that is unbelievable.

I do not need to be reminded as to her horrific deeds.  I agree that what she did is horrible. 

She has paid the price.

Why do they keep rubbing it in?  What joy does it give them? How does it make their lives appear to be any better?

Common sense dictates that she cannot return to the past and undo everything.
 
Not satisfied with their hatred of Karla, with their gnashing of teeth,  it now appears that her innocent children are also to suffer from these so called "Adults"
Putting crosses up on her lawn, etc. then burning them.

Perhaps those that speak out on that fb page should have a good long look at themselves.
Bullies, do not even begin to describe it. They are the ones who are dangerous.
Not Karla.

They cannot see the hatred that they are whipping up and what may ensue because of it.
In the matter of bullying - are they teaching their kids, that lynch mob mentality is okay?

They have no shame for their own behaviour

And in my opinion, from what I have read,  Karla minds her own business, has stayed out of trouble, she is a good mother.  Karla has changed....Why continue to torment this young family??

What smug satisfaction and glee is to be gained by all of this?

It does not change the fact that  Karla is a good mother, Karla has stayed out of trouble, and Karla does not meddle in other's business.
The people of this town should do the same.


jb
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Sap1 on October 29, 2016, 08:25:27 PM
FB can be that ugly and worse. Not just murderers get ganged up on, have you seen what is happening regarding the elections down south of the border? I had to block people. Every time I signed in, all that crap hit me in the timeline and all I can say is that some people/many people are really mentally imbalanced.

At least Karla doesn't seem to be carrying on as she did when she was with Bernardo. The two were severely bad chemistry for each other; but I don't think that Bernardo would have settled down if he was a free man.

I agree with you JB.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: RubyRose on October 30, 2016, 05:54:02 AM
All arguments in her defense notwithstanding, the fact remains Homolka was an equal partner with Bernardo in terrorizing and murdering these young girls.  I stand by what I have always said that once the videotape surfaced, all deals should have been off.  She should have received the same sentence that he did.

I am not condoning lynch mobs and harassment either and I certainly do not agree that her children should have to suffer for what she did.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jellybean on October 30, 2016, 11:35:58 AM
RubyRose, it was Karla who told her Defense attorney that a video tape existed, and where to look in the house to locate it.  It was in the ceiling.  I recall reading that her lawyer hung onto it for quite awhile, knowing that when he turned it over, Karla would be found guilty of participating in the murders.

At the time, the case against Bernardo was not that strong.  There was a chance that he would get off.

The tape was damning - thus her lawyer asked for and received a plea deal, before the tape was handed over.

Monster?  She certainly was.

As is often the case, when a dangerous person is released from jail, law enforcement will warn the public.  Did they in Karla's case? I know that the press chased after her,but can't recall whether police issued a warning.

In thinking about Karla's present husband;, with this family being  under public pressure to move on by way of  constant harassment,  one would think that he would up and leave her and the kids, or take the kids and leave Karla. Many men have left their wives when they can't take pressure. God forbid, for even less.

He still stands beside her.

He defends her, he has stayed with her, he works and supports his family.

In thinking about this;  he must value her....loves her and protects her.
Surely, she must have acquired  some redeeming qualities?
Perhaps having children has changed her.  Softened her....

The public will never forget, and she will never live it down - that is true.
But my point is this.  She served her time by law. Has every citizen's right to raise her family without constant harassment, and is entitled to be left alone.

Perhaps this family may consider leaving the province of Quebec.  Move as far away as possible, once again, change their name, change her appearance, and maybe just maybe this time it will work.

jb




 






Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: RubyRose on October 30, 2016, 03:23:05 PM
That being so, jellybean, her lawyer should, at the very least, have been charged with withholding evidence.  Had the Crown done this, there would have been screaming from the rafters.

I realize a defense lawyer has an obligation and a responsibility to provide the best defense and obtain the best deal possible for his/her client but to withhold evidence which might ultimately have meant that Bernardo also could have walked free is totally reprehensible.

This is sicker even than I thought.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Ron on October 30, 2016, 05:37:36 PM
She has served her time. Leave her alone.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jellybean on October 30, 2016, 05:50:11 PM
Guess, I was not clear. Sorry about that.

Her lawyer did not withhold evidence.  He, gave the video to the prosecution. Without that video, Bernardo might have gotten off - and of course the video clearly implicated his own client.
jb

Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: RubyRose on October 31, 2016, 04:16:28 AM
Thank you, jellybean.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Sap1 on May 31, 2017, 12:51:15 PM
In the news again.

http://www.torontosun.com/2017/05/30/karla-homolka-volunteered-at-montreal-elementary-school-report

Even Doug French admits news that Karla Homolka is allowed to volunteer with kids at a Montreal school should have been like a punch in the gut for him.

But it wasn’t.

“That’s who she is,” the father of slain Kristen French said somberly from his St. Catharines home Tuesday night.

While he doesn’t like it one bit, French said he’s not shocked one of his daughter’s killers is getting another break. He has seen it before.

“We have known about it for a while,” said French. “Nothing surprises me at all.”

Although concerns were expressed about Homolka’s freedoms and activities, “we were told there’s nothing that could be done about it. They said she’s done her time, she served her 12 years for manslaughter and she has her own kids now and that she’s a free woman.”

Homolka served 12 years in federal prison after pleading guilty to manslaughter in the deaths of two school girls. Her ex-husband, Paul Bernardo, is serving a life sentence for his role in multiple rapes and homicides.

Homolka volunteered at her children’s elementary school in Notre-Dame-de-Grace last March, according to a report by the Montreal edition of Breakfast Television.

Homolka reportedly supervised kindergarten children from Montreal’s Greaves Adventist Academy on a field trip in March and once brought her dog to the school for students to pet. The academy, a private Christian school, was aware of Homolka’s criminal past before she started volunteering there.

French said he does not begrudge Homolka’s children having their mother’s time and he understands her desire to want to be part of it.

As even-tempered and calm as French was about it, the lawyer who represents him and his wife, Donna, as well as slain Leslie Mahaffy’s family was outraged and livid by this report.

“My initial reaction it is appalls me,” said lawyer Tim Danson. “I have always said, she’s a psychopath who got away with murder.”

But she is one, he said, who keeps on getting around the rules.

A lot of his feeling on that comes from the family’s quarter century of suffering.

“It is very difficult to see her life being so unaffected while my clients have to go though life with pain and despair that is unimaginable,” said Danson. “It’s not easy for these families to struggle like they do when Karla Homolka goes on a lives a normal life.”

Of course, he is right.

jwarmington@postmedia.com
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jellybean on May 31, 2017, 01:19:50 PM

She is attempting to be a good citizen - but .... her horrendous crime keeps dogging her.


http://www.edmontonsun.com/2017/05/31/parents-who-criticized-karla-homolka-say-school-asked-them-to-leaveParents who criticized Karla Homolka say school asked them to leave

JASON MAGDER, POSTMEDIA NETWORK

FIRST POSTED: WEDNESDAY, MAY 31, 2017 12:17 PM MDT | UPDATED: WEDNESDAY, MAY 31, 2017 12:28 PM MDT
Karla Homolka
Convicted killer Karla Homolka arrives at Greaves Adventist Academy in N.D.G. May 31, 2017. (Dave Sidaway / MONTREAL GAZETTE)

 

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As Karla Homolka rushed past news cameras and photographers snapping pictures in front of Greaves Academy in Notre-Dame-de-Grâce, a woman was pacing behind her, screaming and clapping her hands.

"In the name of Jesus, leave her alone," she yelled at the throng of reporters. "It is written that everyone of us is sinful and we must forgive, because God is a forgiving God. Leave her alone."

But when approached by reporters, the woman declined to comment.

"I don't have nothing to say," the woman said.

Homolka, who lives in Châteauguay, has been sending her three children to the private, Seventh-day Adventist school on West Hill Ave. just north of De Maisonneuve Blvd. since September. On Wednesday morning, Homolka parked her black Honda SUV in front of the photographers, and rushed her three children inside the school. On her way back to her car, she used her purse in an attempt to block the view of her face.

Homolka served 12 years in federal prison after pleading guilty to manslaughter in the deaths of two schoolgirls, Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French. Her ex-husband, Paul Bernardo, is serving a life sentence for his role in multiple rapes and homicides.

Homolka reportedly supervised kindergarten children from the Greaves Adventist Academy on a field trip in March. Parents told the Montreal Gazette on Wednesday that Homolka has been seen in the schoolyard with her dog, and allowed the children to pet the dog. Homolka was also permitted into school to show off her dog to the students. The academy, a private Christian school, was aware of Homolka’s criminal past before she started volunteering there.

Several parents told the Montreal Gazette they only became aware of Homolka's involvement with their school after a man, who called himself a concerned citizen, passed out leaflets to parents back in March. One parent, who tried to raise the issue with the school, was told he would not be welcome back when the new school year starts in September.

"When I first read the paper, I thought it was a hoax," said Andy Maraj, whose daughter attends Grade 3 with one of Homolka's children. "But then I saw her and I saw her walking around with her dog for the children to play with. I told my daughter: 'This lady, I don't want you to go near her please. If she calls you, don't go near her and call me,' because I don't trust the school."

Maraj said he's upset that Homolka was permitted inside the school to interact with the children.

"That's not even supposed to happen, because once you have a (criminal) record, you're not supposed to be in the school," he said. "They could have asked her to stay in the car, and have someone escort her kids into the school, and not to bring her dog. And it's not her fault, it's (the school's) fault. It's really terrible that they would allow this."

Maraj said he started discussing Homolka's presence with other parents in April, and on May 2, he received a letter that he would not be welcomed back in September.

Stéphanie Deligne, whose daughter attends Grade 4 at the school and is in a class with one of Homolka's children, said she would have liked to have been informed about the situation.

"It's really unacceptable," Deligne said. "My daughter was playing with the dog of Karla Homolka, and I was right next to her, but I didn't know who she was."

She said she was angry to hear Homolka is regularly allowed into the school, and that she brought her dog inside.

"Now, I just bring her into the school, and I don't let her play outside because (Homolka regularly) brings the dog."

Deligne was told that she too would have to find another school in September.

"The administration told me I am being too critical," she said.

The Montreal Gazette had contacted Greaves Adventist Academy about Homolka’s alleged involvement with the school on May 17. At the time, school superintendent Marc Bouzy said the academy hadn’t received any complaints about Homolka.

“The school has been here for a long time and we have never been involved in anything contrary to the proper norms of the students,” Bouzy told the Montreal Gazette. “There is no reason for anyone to be concerned about the way we do things right now for the benefit of the students in our community.

“The ministry only gives permits to schools that are a safe place for students attending. In no way is it an issue for the community.”

The Seventh Day Adventist Church of Canada, which runs the school, told Breakfast Television Homolka isn’t a regular volunteer at the school and that she’s not allowed to be alone with the children.

Under provincial law, volunteers at elementary schools are supposed to undergo criminal background checks before interacting with students.

jmagder@postmedia.com

Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: RubyRose on May 31, 2017, 04:10:14 PM

Under provincial law, volunteers at elementary schools are supposed to undergo criminal background checks before interacting with students.

jmagder@postmedia.com 

I wonder what type of crime would be considered serious enough for someone to "fail" the criminal background check.  Apparently kidnapping and murdering schoolgirls (the so-called manslaughter charge was always pure hogwash) don't count.

The French's lawyer is quite correct.  It seems as if everyone else is supposed to walk on eggshells and let Karla carry on with her merry little life.

Thoroughly disgusting.  So much for the highly touted sex offender registry.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Sap1 on May 31, 2017, 07:54:33 PM
SMDH!
I simply cannot forgive even though the young girls were not my flesh and blood. My thoughts and concerns are with the innocent victims left behind to cope with horrendous loss every day of their lives. Karla was part and parcel for giving the death penalty to beautiful teens who had a whole life ahead of them. The horror and pain they faced and now their families must deal with it and the freedoms Karla enjoys. There was no justice! 12 years was not enough.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: RubyRose on June 01, 2017, 05:20:50 AM
I couldn't agree more, Sap1.

I wonder what would have happened if the roles had been reversed and Bernardo had been the one giving evidence.  I suspect[ there would be Hell to pay and rightly so. 

Both were equal partners.  Both should have been declared Dangerous Offenders and both should have been given the same sentence
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: never_lose_hope on June 01, 2017, 10:24:09 AM
We can thank Bernardo's laywers for hanging onto those damn tapes for so long and not surrendering them, had he done that they would've known Karla's true involvement much earlier and we wouldn't even be having this discussion she'd still be in jail.

It's a horrible horrible situation and I'll never be able to understand how she can take 3 lives and yet be blessed with 3 children nothing seems more sickening and unjust than that. breaks my heart.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: RubyRose on June 01, 2017, 11:00:58 AM
It shouldn't have made any difference in the long run, never_lose_hope.  Once the truth was known, all deals should have been off.  The argument being, of course, that plea bargains, etc are a necessary part of obtaining convictions and others would be discouraged from giving evidence against accomplices if the Crown went back on its deal.  I don't disagree with that in principle but at some point the line has to be drawn.  She lied about her part in the crimes so there were ample grounds.  i'd hazard a guess that most would agree to testify anyway if they figured their own necks were on the line.  It was just a cop out and more disrespect to the victims.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: lostlinganer on June 01, 2017, 11:40:49 AM

Canadian serial killer Karla Homolka occasionally volunteers at an elementary school in Montreal, school officials have confirmed with CityNews.

Homolka, who was convicted in 1993 and sentenced to 12 years in prison in the deaths of schoolgirls Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy, and also played a role in the death of her 15-year-old sister Tammy, has been regularly seen at a private Christian school in Notre-Dame-de-Grâce, a residential neighbourhood in Montreal.

Breakfast Television Montreal has learned Homolka has regularly been seen at Greaves Adventist Academy, where her children attend classes, and her appearance has some parents concerned.

Lily, who didn’t want her real identity revealed, said Homolka not only drops off and picks up her children but occasionally volunteers at the school.

“We don’t want her here,” Lily said.

Karla Homolka refuses to speak with media outside the Greaves Adventist Academy in a Montreal suburb, May 26, 2017. BT MONTREAL/Domenic Fazioli
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“How would you feel knowing that your child is interacting with a person who is a serial killer? It’s not right.”

Several sources connected with the school said that on March 22 Homolka helped supervise a group of kindergarten students during a field trip to the Montreal Science Centre.

Lily said many parents have spoken to the school principal but nothing has changed.

In a statement released Tuesday afternoon, the Seventh-day Adventist Church addressed parents’ concerns.

“The Quebec Conference of Seventh-day Adventists and the administration of Greaves Adventist Academy are committed to providing quality education and enriching learning experiences to its students,” the statement read. “While we work through the concerns stated by parents and other stakeholders, we welcome those associated with the school to contact the Quebec Conference office of Education.”

By law, before anyone can have regular contact with children in Quebec schools, they are required to undergo a criminal background check.

“The school board was fully aware of who she is. She is not a regular volunteer, and can never be alone with any children, either in school or churches,” Seventh-day Adventist Church spokesman Stan Jensen told CityNews.

“It is protocol for all of our schools across Canada, and most of the world, to do background checks, not only on teachers, but [also] volunteers as well as clergy. As I said, she is not a regular volunteer. Rarely would she have cause to go into the school, and when she is, she is never alone.”

Homolka lived in Quebec following her 2005 release from prison, where she married Thierry Bordelais and gave birth to a boy. Bordelais is the brother of Homolka’s lawyer for her high-profile murder trial. The pair had two more children together.

According to the Canadian Press, she moved to the Antilles to escape media scrutiny in 2007. In 2012, journalist Paula Todd found Homolka living in Guadeloupe.

Last year, Breakfast Television Montreal reporter Domenic Fazioli found her living in Chateauguay, Quebec, a suburb of Montreal.

Read the complete statement from the school below or click here to view it on mobile.

Quebec Conference of Seventh-day Adventists comment by CityNewsToronto on Scribd

http://www.citynews.ca/2017/05/30/exclusive-karla-homolka-occasionally-volunteers-at-montreal-elementary-school/
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: RubyRose on June 01, 2017, 12:40:22 PM
Had never heard that her husband was her lawyer's brother, not that it's particularly relevant to anything.

Despite what the church spokesperson says in his statement, if I were the parent of a child attending that school, I would not feel reassured.  Then again, given the circumstances, my child would no longer be attending the school after this term.  I should point out I don't particularly blame the church or the administration of the school.  If they had declined to have her as a volunteer, no doubt she'd be yelling discrimination and probably threatening with a law suit.  It seems Karla must have her way and everyone else must bow down accordingly.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Sap1 on June 01, 2017, 02:56:22 PM
True RubyRose, Karla must have her way. Still manipulative. That is not going to change, unfortunately.

I do wonder, when her kids will have more access to internet as they get older ... what will they think when they read about her heinous acts and how it will affect them.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: RubyRose on June 01, 2017, 04:28:12 PM
At the very least, Sap1, I would hope they have already received some form of counselling.  While they probably have no idea what is really going on, I'm sure that doesn't make their lives any easier.  I don't doubt that they pay every day for her actions.  I've often wondered if anyone has ever checked on their welfare in an official capacity.  My guess would be not.  I doubt there have ever been any complaints of abuse so the hands of the authorities would be more or less tied.  From what little we ever see or hear about the children, they would appear to be well cared for and well looked after but do we really know?  Who can tell (about anyone for that matter) what really goes on behind closed doors?  My heart goes out to them.  Three more innocent victims of these predators one of whom happens to be their mother.  A long, hard road ahead for them, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: lostlinganer on June 01, 2017, 11:19:34 PM
Those two people ... Bernardo and Homolka, seem to be in a category all their own imo.  I would not be at all shocked if the day came when they team up again... putting their extreme actions against each other (after being caught) aside.  I always felt they shared the same narcissistic traits combined with some sick urge to be together.  I agree the two should have been "put down" like animals when they were caught.  They were the extreme example of a pair of serial killers acting as one.  http://m.torontosun.com/2017/05/31/families-brace-for-paul-bernardo-parole-hearing
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: lostlinganer on June 01, 2017, 11:26:52 PM
update on the above: Convicted killer Karla Homolka will no longer volunteer at a private elementary school in Nôtre-Dame-de-Grace.

After reports surfaced Tuesday that Greaves Adventist Academy had allowed Homolka to supervise students on a field trip in March, the school initially defended its decision. In fact, one parent said administrators asked him not to send his child back to the school next semester after he complained about Homolka interacting with students.

The academy, a private Christian school, appeared to walk back its stance Thursday.

“We have heard and listened to the concerns of parents and members of the community uncomfortable with recent reports in the media,” a statement from the school reads. “No one with a criminal record will be allowed to volunteer in any capacity on school grounds.”

Under provincial law, anyone who wishes to volunteer at a school must undergo a criminal background check. Asked if the school applied this scrutiny to Homolka before the field trip, a representative from Greaves Adventist Academy said they were aware of her notorious past.

Parents at the school first became aware of Homolka’s presence on campus after a neighbourhood man passed out leaflets about her crimes.

“When I first read the (leaflet), I thought it was a hoax,” said Andy Maraj, whose daughter attends Grade 3 with one of Homolka’s children. “But then I saw her and I saw her walking around with her dog for the children to play with. I told my daughter: ‘This lady, I don’t want you to go near her please. If she calls you, don’t go near her and call me,’ because I don’t trust the school.”

Homolka served 12 years in federal prison after pleading guilty to manslaughter in the deaths of two schoolgirls, Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French. She was released from prison in 2005.

 http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/karla+homolka+longer+allowed+volunteer+school/13417378/story.html :D
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jellybean on June 10, 2017, 06:54:07 PM
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“We have heard and listened to the concerns of parents and members of the community uncomfortable with recent reports in the media,” a statement from the school reads. “No one with a criminal record will be allowed to volunteer in any capacity on school grounds.”


Well, I guess that settles that!

She had placed herself in a vulnerable position by volunteering for the school.
Not one of acceptance, but one of complete rejection.

 ---- I give her an A for effort.

I would like to read an in-depth unbiased article on the Karla of Today.
I must admit - I am curious as to her present day state of mind.

Is it possible that a human being can make a complete turnaround in their life, after taking part in horrendous crimes?

Is there such a thing as true repentance?  Is there such a thing as a sincere desire to "contribute something positive" in some small way?"

In Karla's case, these questions remain unanswered to the public.

Only she knows the answers.
jb
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: RubyRose on June 12, 2017, 12:35:56 PM
I'm sure in some cases all these things are possible, jellybean, and that's fine if the person is indeed sincere.

I don't think that's what motivates Karla, however.  Simply put (and she's really too complex an individual for that choice of words), I believe she is narcissistic and craves attention (even if it is the wrong kind).  She'll be back in the news again.  Of course, partly, that is because the media won't leave her alone but she's aware of that, I'm sure, and will go out of her way to get their attention, if necessary.

I agree with much of what lost said regarding what would happen if she had the opportunity to team up with Bernardo (or some such similar individual) again.  I just think she's dangerous, the risks are too high and she should definitely not be around children.

Of course it is her own children who, through no fault of their own, must pay the price while she's ostracized.   I don't know whether or not I even think she has a conscience but if she does, that, too, must weigh on her mind.



Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jellybean on June 19, 2017, 05:38:30 PM
I respectfully wonder about the present day Karla.
I have read all of the horrible things that she did with her ex husband, PB, and the enormous pain that her participation has caused.  Words cannot describe!

Let us look at the present day Karla, what do we know about her?

We know that she has not crossed the paths of the law.

We know that her children are not being abused, and are in fact protected by their parents.

We know that her husband, with all of the flack by society,  he stands by her.
In fact when pressured by people standing on their lawn demanding that they move, his reply was - "We are staying - and if you don't like it - you pack up and move'
And staying -they are!!

We know that the public harasses this family, in every move that they make.
Pressure to chase them out of town. 

We know that Karla tells them to go home, to go get off of her property or else she will call the cops .  Would not you?

She does not want attention.... In fact she wears sunglasses and goes about her business in a low key way. 

She is not known to use drugs, she is not known to attend bars. For certain, the press would pick up on that!! Nothing narcissistic  there!!


We know that Karla was a school patrol during recess.

We know that the School Board knew about her past.

We  know that parents were unhappy with this, and went to the School Board and had her dismissed from her volunteer work.

Is this wise or mass hysteria?  How fast this can spread!!

A very wise poster, Concerned, said on another thread, (Another case) "Perhaps when she has children of her own she will understand".

Perhaps Karla with her own children, understands, and is doing every effort every effort to be a good mother, a good wife, and is now attempting to be a good citizen by volunteering in  a simple way by being a school patrol.

Did we ever stop to think about that?

Not all mothers of that school volunteer!  Rest assured, too busy.

I think that she has gone past PB and the mental state that she was in.

Note"  She did not hook up with a sadist, in her marriage!!
That is important to note.   Killers will seek out killers. as psych doctors have shouted out.
Beware of Karla.
But Karla did not!!

Looks to me like she has a stable home, with a non killer husband and three kids that have never been brought to the attention of authorities.

But perhaps I am just being a polyanna.  But, so far, so good for Karla, in my estimation.
I like to believe that a change has taken place, for all of the above reasons listed.

I agree that it is difficult to keep an open mind, when one reads about her past.... but Karla lives in the present.... Year 2017.

Just my present opinion.
What harm could Karla do on the school patrol with young children?  There are more school patrol on the grounds other than Karla.

Their kids were safe.

But that question makes too much common sense to hysterical parents!!

And - how can society take pride that her children are ostracized That will teach Karla!!
We will do that to her children?  That will show her?

These kids are innocent - and should be treated with kindness like all others.
Shame on these adults.



jb
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Sap1 on June 20, 2017, 01:27:19 AM
What bothers me is this must all be very difficult on the children. ``Mommy, why don`t you come to the school anymore to help out.``

With reporters watching and all people pretty well on guard, what harm can she do if she were to help out at school as some parents do. If her kids are ostracized and she might decide to homeschool them ... think how nuts the neighborhood would go then. She is being forced between a rock and a hard place.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: RubyRose on June 20, 2017, 02:36:38 PM
Only time will tell, of course, and hopefully all will be well for everyone concerned.  With the exception of the victims' families, of course, (of which Karla is a member).  Nothing will ever be totally well for them again.

I still believe the risks are just too high and not worth taking.

The school (finally) made the correct decision.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Have faith on June 20, 2017, 09:01:36 PM

Obviously, Karla Homolka thinks that after she served her "plea bargain with the devil" 12 year sentence, she has paid her debt to society. No one who knows the facts agrees with her. She is arrogant (defiant) enough to feel that she should now be considered a respected member of society. Having three children does not make her a normal, trustworthy, school volunteer who you want around your kids, regardless of how well she is monitored. I can understand the uproar from the school parents.

 Most people, including myself, feel sorry for her innocent kids who are now faced with learning the truth about their mother, and suffering the fall out.  If she really cared about them, she would never have returned to Canada to subject them to her nightmare past.

I might try to relate to your sentiments JB, if she had served a full 25 years in prison, which is what she deserved as a willing participant in all three murders, as proven in the videos that surfaced after her plea bargain. Tim Danson has expressed my sentiments exactly:

“Karla Homolka did not pay her debt to society,” Tim Danson, lawyer for the victim’s families, told the Sun's Joe Warmington.
“Through deceit, deception and manipulation, Karla Homolka got away with murder,” said Danson. “She breached the conditions of her plea resolution and she should have been in the prisoners box with Paul Bernardo and also serving a life sentence.”


http://www.torontosun.com/2017/06/04/no-we-dont-need-to-forgive-homolka
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Sap1 on June 20, 2017, 11:29:04 PM
Quoting Have faith:

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Having three children does not make her a normal, trustworthy, school volunteer who you want around your kids, regardless of how well she is monitored. I can understand the uproar from the school parents.

 Most people, including myself, feel sorry for her innocent kids who are now faced with learning the truth about their mother, and suffering the fall out.  If she really cared about them, she would never have returned to Canada to subject them to her nightmare past.

I have to agree. I get hung up just because of the kids and tend to forget what she really did and was a willing partner of. For that reason I flip and flop. :(
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: Sap1 on May 10, 2018, 01:44:38 PM
OMG! Someone even made a FB page "watching Karla Homolka" and it has over 6,000 followers. Get a life people! Constantly hounding the family is going to put her into a fight or flight space and it's the "fight" I would be concerned about.
Title: Re: Karla Homolka
Post by: jellybean on May 11, 2018, 01:53:58 PM
I would be very careful as to what is said, when posting on this facebook if I were them.

Reminder:  We have laws in Canada about hateful speech,  incitement of hatred and stalking behaviour.

And well it should be.

jb