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Re: Tania Marie Murrell: Missing from Edmonton (1983)
« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2009, 10:54:08 AM »
I mean that the suspect who fit the police profile and was living in the area at the time is in jail already, Probably for other equally bad deeds. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what I heard.

So I'm surprised to discover that they (EPS?) are investigating this other lead according to this newspaper article.  I guess the case isn't closed after all.


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Re: Tania Marie Murrell: Missing from Edmonton (1983)
« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2009, 11:45:10 AM »
Thanks. I am curious what the profile police have says. The only children missing and found dead in Edmonton, I believe were Karen Ewanciw and Punky Gustovson. I'm not sure if there were others, even prosecuted.

The other missing children have never been located. I think in 1983 less was known about searching for children on the premise they've been abducted and murdered within the first 72 hours, an astonishing 47% dead within the first three. This is stats for stranger abductions of children, not all children who go missing.

Situations like Victoria or Sandra. Tori missing and the search efforts, the final outcome, arrests and everything and the police still can't find where she is. There are many children, I believe, hidden so well, things went so in favor of the abductor, the children are never found.

I would like to believe these little ones were taken and raised in a family, best case scenario.

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Re: Tania Marie Murrell: Missing from Edmonton (1983)
« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2009, 11:18:39 PM »
THESE CRIMES AFFECT MANY PEOPLE IN MANY WAYS . I USED TO RIDE MY HORSE IN THE SHERWOOD PARK / ARDROSSON  OR KNOW AS STRATCONA AREA
EVERY EVENING FOR AT LEAST 4 HOURS. ID STOP AT A RESTARANT TIE HER TO THE POST HAVE COFFEE OR EAT AND RIDE HOME.  NOW WITH WHAT THEY FIND IN THAT AREA I DONT DO THAT ANYMORE I JUST RIDE IN THE ARENA ... HOW SAD. WHEN I USED TO BRAVE IT ID DO NOTHING BUT WORRY AS TO WHAT I MIGHT FIND IN THE FIELDS (WE OFTEN WENT OFF THE ROAD TO EXPLORE) AND WHEN WE DID IF THE MARE STOPPED AND REFUSED TO GO I DIDNT ARGUE WE WOULD TURN THE OTHER WAY

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Re: Tania Marie Murrell: Missing from Edmonton (1983)
« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2009, 10:35:28 AM »
Hi Mystik,

I'm sorry to hear how things have changed, how your quality of life has diminished due to numerous women being recovered from your riding neighbourhood.

I wanted to say one thing that might give a different perspective. Don't stop riding where you love to ride. If you find someone on your rides you would give much peace to families who are waiting to hear from their loved ones. I, and many of us, particularly Adrian (RIP) who used to write here, believe people who live in those areas would actually help a lot if they did travel around their property and look for any sign someone could be there.

Please don't fear what you may find. Ride your horse out in the fields, take him for a long walk and don't let the possibility of finding remains be a negative thing. If your horse refuses to go further, if something spooks him, just make note of the area for further investigation. Horses are intuitive.

Often times Adrian made an appeal to people in Strathcona County, Sherwood Park acreage owners and farm owners, to go look, take some time to clear their own property of possibility one of our missing women are somewhere in that area.

I hope you will find the strength and courage to ride your beautiful horse and live the lifestyle you enjoy.

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Re: Tania Marie Murrell: Missing from Edmonton (1983)
« Reply #49 on: June 28, 2009, 11:25:12 AM »
Mystic; I know Adrian would appreciate this.  She would loved to have been on horseback, and available to do this.  It was a passion of hers' (before she passed away) to venture out on all the open land and fields looking for victims.  It would be a very important find to many if you only found one.  Also; if your horse gets "spooked", try getting down and walking her - if you're sure it's not a rattler.  ....I know ....this is not for the meak or weak!  But if you're out there, why not "look around".... it might be divine intervention of lonesome spirits begging to be found and taken home.
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Re: Tania Marie Murrell: Missing from Edmonton (1983)
« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2009, 11:31:58 PM »
Tania age enhanced to 30

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Re: Tania Marie Murrell: Missing from Edmonton (1983)
« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2009, 12:07:52 AM »


NOTE – MIKE MCINTYRE WILL BE JOINED BY ELYSIA MURRELL TODAY ON HIS “CRIME AND PUNISHMENT” NATIONAL RADIO SHOW TO FEATURE TANIA’S CASE AS PART OF HIS MONTHLY “LOST CHILDREN” SERIES. THE FOLLOWING STORY IS COURTESY OF THE EDMONTON JOURNAL AND MISSING CHILDREN’S SOCIETY OF CANADA

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Elysia Murrell wasn’t even born when her six-year-old sister, Tania, disappeared on the two-block walk home from Grovenor elementary school on a cold winter day nearly 24 years ago.

Today, Elysia is the only family member who continues to search for Tania, who would have celebrated her 30th birthday this year.

“I believe she is around and alive. I figure they changed her name and she was young enough that she would forget and believe whatever they told her,” Elysia said in a phone interview last year with the Edmonton Journal newspaper.

She believes her sister was snatched by a man known to the family; a man who was obsessed with her mother and who may now reside in Toronto.

So steadfast is her belief, she won’t let their mother, Vivian, hold funeral services for Tania.

For most long-time Edmontonians, Tania Marie Murrell will be permanently ingrained in their memory as a grinning little girl with braided pigtails and strands of flyaway hair, whose picture was featured in newspapers and on TV for weeks in 1983. She vanished without a trace on Jan. 20 of that year, shortly after 11:10 a.m., when she walked out the school doors for the quick trip home for lunch. Most days, she walked home with her five-year-old brother, John. But on this day, she didn’t wait for his class to finish.

She was dressed in a blue winter coat with a white fur collar, green cord knickers, a black Harley Davidson

A teacher watched as the three-foot-two, blond-haired youngster with hazel eyes walked out of sight.

When she failed to show up at home by 11:20 a.m., her babysitting aunt, Vera Stortz, sounded the alarm.

Police and volunteers canvassed the area around the home, at 10426-145th St., by foot and car. More than 1,900 square blocks, including ravines and alleys, were searched within the next few days. At the time, it was the largest door-to-door search ever mounted in Edmonton.

Tania’s disappearance made national headlines, and was the subject of several television programs in the United States. A reward for information on her disappearance swelled to $40,000 in a matter of weeks.

A month after Tania disappeared, her parents, Vivian and Jack, along with others, set up the Tania Murrell Missing Children Society, the first Canadian agency to deal with the issue of missing children. Eight months later, Child Find Alberta was launched by a group of concerned Calgarians.

The Murrells enjoyed a sympathetic relationship with the media in the first few months after Tania’s disappearance. Reporters quizzed the former Niagara Falls, Ont. couple, exploring their past and examining their sorrow. They never seemed to resent it. Each interview request was accommodated, nearly every question answered.

“If she were really dead, I would know in here,” Jack said, gesturing towards his heart in one interview.

One of the chief investigators at the time, Det. John McLeod, said it was the uniqueness of the case that had caught people’s attention. “She went missing without a trace — no clothing, no school books, nothing.”

If abducted, a child Tania’s age would have been afraid, quiet and obedient. “She could conceivably be brainwashed into believing her parents don’t want her anymore,” McLeod said in a 1984 interview.

In September of the same year, Vivian voiced her belief that her daughter would be coming home. “I think she is going to be found. It’s just a matter of time. It’s a big world,” she said.

On Nov. 12, 1985, nearly two years after Tania vanished, Vivian gave birth to Elysia Anne.

By 1987, the Murrells had been on an emotional rollercoaster for three years and the stress had taken its toll. Their hopes were raised and dashed too many times. Cruel phone pranks were played on the family, the worst by an Ontario man who ended up going to jail for three years after trying to extort $40,000 from the Murrells for Tania’s safe return.

Financial troubles cropped up in the Tania Murrell Missing Children Society after the society tried to advertise pictures of missing children on gift boxes of mixed nuts. The organization ended up stuck with 36,000 unsold boxes of nuts.

The society collapsed shortly after. The Murrells, dogged by rumours involving Jack, outlaw motorcycle gangs and drug debts, left Edmonton, moving to Kelowna, where they tried to put the past behind them.

Tania’s disappearance essentially destroyed her family, Elysia said. Both her parents tried to find solace in booze and drugs. They ended up contracting hepatitis C, leading to long-term health problems for both. Her brother John, now 28, was extremely close to Tania and was affected the most, she said.

“It ruined him. When my sister disappeared, all the attention went to finding her and he was basically neglected. He started acting out. He has been in and out of jail most of his life because he has a bad drug habit. I’ve seen my brother about five times in my whole life,” Elysia said.

Jack Murrell lost a leg because of his health problems and her mother left the marriage, she said. Elysia and her father moved back to Ontario, where Jack died last year of kidney failure.

Until police find Tania’s remains or remnants of the clothing she was wearing the day she disappeared, or someone is overcome by a guilty conscience, Elysia will continue to believe her sister to be alive somewhere.

“Before my dad passed away, he told me he was going to see my sister. I told him you won’t find her because she’s not there.”

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Re: Tania Marie Murrell: Missing from Edmonton (1983)
« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2009, 12:14:39 AM »
 I found this article from Feb 09. on "Mike on crime" site. 

Tania sister thinks she knows who has taken Tania, a man known to the family.  I wonder if this man is the one spanner is talking about?

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« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2009, 12:15:33 AM »
I found this article from Feb 09. on "Mike on crime" site. 

Tania sister thinks she knows who has taken Tania, a man known to the family.  I wonder if this man is the one spanner is talking about?

I wondered too. What a sad story, as they all are. I followed this case and it has brought tears to my eyes just reading now again, how the family was destroyed. I remember at the time many people were accusatory towards Tania's parents b/c the dad was a biker, etc. How cruel!! So sad Tania's brother was so badly affected, just a nightmare all the way around.

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« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2010, 03:16:22 AM »
I just happened upon this site by accident and have just read all of the Tania Murrell postings for the first time. Earlier it was mentioned about a missing boy around the time of Tania's dissappearance. Years ago I was given the opportunity to study some of the evidence in this crime through one of my profs. I believe the boy mentioned earlier in the postings was actually from 1979. He went missing and a year later (guessing on time) his bones were found where people had originally been looking for him. The tie-in to the Murrell case appears to be that, the person who first alerted the police to a makeshift search for the boy would later turn out to be a MAJOR suspect in the Murrell case (former friend of the family). In subsequent years, the suspect moved to Ontario and the police have apparently been unable to link him to the crime. I believe the police reported this case as an unfortunate accident--death by wild animal.

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Re: Tania Marie Murrell: Missing from Edmonton (1983)
« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2010, 08:31:14 AM »
I was just reading up on this on the weekend.  Here is an Edmonton Sun article from November 1, 2009:
http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/edmonton/2009/11/01/11595986-sun.html

To neighbours living near the modest west-end bungalow, the work crew probably looked like any contractor doing home renovations.

But for 10 days in the summer of 2008 the people inside the house were not part of any home improvement: they were digging for a body.

Acting on a tip, Edmonton police took the extremely unusual step of digging up part of a basement to try to find the remains of missing city girl Tania Murrell, who vanished Jan. 20, 1983.

And although police did not find any trace of the missing six-year-old, the lead detective has no regrets about the $18,000 operation.

"It all fell into place and it really looked like we had something here," said Det. Howie Antoniuk of the historical homicide section. "After all, it takes a lot to dig up a basement."

SUSPICION

The search began after police received a tip in 2007.

"A woman contacted us who had been a casual playmate of Tania's who believed her father could be responsible for Tania's death," he said.

"There were allegations of sexual abuse against her father. She called us to say at the time Tania disappeared there was a hole in a basement room at their house. She understood (the hole) had been left for some plumbing work," said Antoniuk.

The tipster said she had always been suspicious of her estranged father and decided to finally come forward.

The family had long since moved from the house, located about 20 blocks away from the Murrell home at 10426 145 St.

After evaluating the information and interviewing the woman at length, Antoniuk felt the only option left was to enter the house and do a thorough search.

After convincing his superiors, he then went to a judge to obtain a search warrant.

His next step was to telephone the owner of the home.

"I identified myself and said to the homeowner that I believed there could be a body in your basement and may I come and take a look," said Antoniuk.

The homeowner was shocked but agreed to allow police inside. A family living upstairs and tenants living in the basement were moved to a hotel in early July 2008 as police -- all in plain clothes driving unmarked cars -- moved in.

Following the directions of the tipster, detectives went to a basement room.

"She drew a picture for us and told us where to dig," he said.

A police-hired contractor broke through the floor. Once they reached the concrete, it appeared to be disturbed, which piqued Antoniuk's interest.

After the contractor jackhammered through concrete, police dug down another half-metre and forensic officers carefully examined the area for any evidence of human remains. Everything came back negative; there had never been a body in or under the basement.

The contractor then returned everything to its original state and the operation ended.

Although Antoniuk never specifically told the homeowners who they were looking for, "I think they had a pretty good idea that it was (Tania)."

Even though the search came up empty, police still approached the man identified by the daughter about her allegations.

PASSED POLYGRAPH

"We then told the father what his daughter had said. He was quite surprised. We asked him to take a polygraph, he agreed and he passed," said Antoniuk, saying he is not aware of any further police investigation involving the father.

Antoniuk says the $18,000 tab, which included all excavation-related costs, plus room and meals for the displaced residents, points to the commitment city police have towards solving the case.

"Somebody knows something," said Antoniuk, adding that despite the fact police were looking for a body, the Tania Murrell mystery has always been a missing person case. He cites the case of Jaycee Lee Dugard, the California woman who resurfaced in late August, 18 years after being abducted as an 11-year-old girl.

Antoniuk said he is still trying to track down the woman walking with a child across 144 Street near 104 Avenue at about 11:10 a.m., Jan. 20, 1983.

A realtor told police at the time that the child seemed to fall and the woman was either dragging her or helping her.

Tania vanished while walking from Grovenor School to her home two blocks away at about 11:10 a.m. on Jan. 20, 1983.

Although a massive search was launched for the blond youngster, no trace was ever found.

The Tania file is considered the city's largest missing person case and now occupies more than 20,000 pages.

And if one tip can lead to a basement being dug up, city police obviously don't discount any potential lead.

"We're hoping that this (story) will spark renewed interest and give us the break we need," said Antoniuk, adding that the growth of the Internet has created information-sharing that wasn't available two decades ago.

Tania's mom, Vivian, who has endured a series of stress-related health problems, including a brain aneurysm, is also hoping for closure.

Vivian, 53, said from her home in Peachland, B.C., that she doesn't believe her daughter is still alive, "but I still have to have hope."

"I just want an answer before I die."



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Re: Tania Marie Murrell: Missing from Edmonton (1983)
« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2010, 11:15:43 AM »
Thanks for sharing the previous article, very interesting hadn't heard anything about this case in quite a while

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Re: Tania Marie Murrell: Missing from Edmonton (1983)
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2010, 02:10:51 AM »
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case appears to be that, the person who first alerted the police to a makeshift search for the boy would later turn

I do not udnetrstand. You mean, this person found the boy in the search or alerted police where to search?

Thakns,

That is very interesting. Seems rather big coincidence.

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« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2010, 02:25:21 AM »
I mean that people started looking for the boy prior to the police being involved, and this gentleman informed the police of the search. Back in those days, police didn't realize that many criminals tried to insert themselves into cases in which they were the culprits (giving tips etc.). Personally I can't believe this case still hasn't been solved. Ten years ago I was given the opportunity to study key evidence in this case (which the media has never been privy to). Some of the evidence was shocking and pointed to one man who subsequently moved to Ontario and started his own family. The information kept me from sleeping well for a long time, all the while, hoping the police would announce the arrest of this man. Unfortunately, reading the previous post, the police have gone off on a different tangent (searching the basement in that Edm house) which makes no sense according to the information I studied. I hope they know better than I because the family surely needs closure.

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Re: Tania Marie Murrell: Missing from Edmonton (1983)
« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2010, 04:35:34 AM »
Hello Woodward, thank for posting.
Do you know who the boy was? I have not heard of a missing boy whose remains were recovered in the Edmonton or Alberta area between 1979 and 1983. The only missing boy is Jeffrey Dupres, from Slave Lake, AB.
I am curious if the person responsible for the boy you mentioned was arrested? My understanding is you say the person who organized a search of the boy's remains before the police were called is the same person you suspect responsible for Tania's abduction? Was the boy whose remains were found considered a homicide victim?
There is a woman of interest in the disappearance of Tania. If this is the case, that is very similar to the abduction of Jeffrey Dupres, where a woman is suspected and a late model pick up also seen in the area.
Thank you again.

 

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