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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2009, 07:39:08 PM »
What about a chevy Impala

1967 Impala, green


I'm also now wondering. The article said the suspect was around 33 years old but I assumed it was 33 in 1981 but it might have been 33 when the woman in the sketch disappeared? If that was Gale Weys in the photo and he was described as 33 in 1973 then he would have been born around 1940, not 1947 as I thought in an earlier post.

He would be about 70 years old now.
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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2009, 10:27:39 PM »

Clifford Robert Olson Jr. was born on January 1st, 1940 at St. Paul’s Hospital, Vancouver, B.C. He would be almost 70 now.

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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2009, 01:06:58 AM »
I'll put young Deena Braem (17 years old) here since she has now been added to the E-Pana list for investigation.
I'm going to also put up Deena's parents and hopefully someone who knows something will tell the appropriate authorities when they see the pain of the loss of their daughter on their faces.

Teen's death a mystery, 10 years later
 
 
By LORI CULBERT, Vancouver Sun December 22, 2009

QUESNEL — It was Friday, September 24, 1999, and Deena Braem planned to celebrate her 17th birthday that weekend with her high-school friends in Quesnel.

Her father, Jim Braem, knew Deena would stay over at a friend's house, instead of returning home. His last words to his daughter were for her to enjoy her night out.

"That was the last time I saw her alive. I remember saying, 'Happy birthday. Have a good time, beautiful.' I remember seeing her hair flipping around with her backpack on her back," he recalled. The memory is still difficult.

When Deena didn't come home that Saturday, her parents thought it was unusual. She hadn't even phoned to ask for some more money.

By Sunday they began to worry, especially when one of their daughter's best friends called to speak to Deena - she should have been with her.

However, the Braems were certain that by Monday - Deena's actual birthday - they would hear from their daughter. At 10 a.m. that day, Jim phoned the school, only to learn his daughter hadn't shown up for class. He met the bus after school, and discovered none of Deena's friends had seen her that day either.

There would be no birthday celebration in the Braem house that night.

"Instead, we reported her missing on her 17th birthday," Jim said during a recent interview.

When they drove home from the police station that evening, Jim and Paula noticed their daughter's shoes weren't in their regular spot by the front door. They were overcome by an intense sense of loss, one that still haunts them today.

"I never went back to work after Monday, for a whole year," said Jim, who is employed at a local mill.

"I died," his wife Paula added bluntly, her eyes red with emotion.

Police searched the local area. Jim drove his truck to Prince George and back, but didn't even know what he was looking for.

"There's not much else you can do. You really find out how much control you have over your life at times like that. You think you are in control of your destiny, but you're not," he said.

Deena was a typical teenager with a stubborn streak and a mind of her own. She was learning to drive. She was starting to focus more on school, as she planned to moved to Victoria once she graduated. She wrote in her journal that she would like to become an actress.

She had a horse on her parent's property near Bouchie Lake on the northwest outskirts of Quesnel, a city of 10,000 people on Highway 97.

Cpl. Ray Kinloch of the Quesnel RCMP said Deena had been with a group of friends at a four-by-four track southeast of the city earlier in the evening. They then went to another party on the west end of town but Deena didn't want to stay, and decided to hitchhike home despite the pouring rain outside.

A friend she was out with that night, but who stayed at the party, last saw Deena hitchhiking about 4 a.m. Saturday morning on North Fraser Drive, which runs parallel to the Fraser River. People working the early shift at the local mill also saw her standing on the side of the road.

Deena usually phoned her parents for a lift but this time she didn't. She was less than 10 km from home.

Investigators asked the Braems if Deena might have run away, a suggestion Jim rejected outright. He didn't know where his daughter was, but he held out some hope that they would find her.

Paula was less certain their daughter was still alive. "It just wasn't like her. Everything from that Saturday on just didn't feel right," she said.

Unfortunately, Paula's worst fears were proven true.

On Dec. 10, 1999 - two and a half months after Deena disappeared - a hunter stumbled upon human remains buried under a pile of brush in a wooden area near Pinnacles Park. It is about "two miles as the crow flies" between the spot where Deena was last seen and where her body was found, Jim said, but about an eight-mile drive.

Residents in Quesnel raised reward money, and Paula was sure somebody in the community would provide some crucial evidence to police.

"I would have thought someone would have been arrested in a year. But it's been 10 years," she said. "It's exhausting. It takes your life away."

The lack of answers is so consuming, Jim said, that he starts to think of everyone he sees as a possible guilty person.

Jim is frustrated that the police search of the area stopped 50 feet short of where his daughter's body was lying because officers left the area to pursue a new tip. Had they found her months earlier, would there have been more evidence to lead to an arrest? It is those unanswerable questions that haunt Jim, who has not been entirely pleased with the police investigation into his daughter's death.

"People say you get closure," Jim said. "The only thing you get closure on is a door. Every day that goes by it gets worse, it just gets worse in a different way. It's like a bigger bag that you keep dragging around."

Deena's name was informally associated for a long time with the Highway of Tears case, as she was frequently mentioned in media stories about the unsolved cases of highway murders in northern B.C. But she was not included in the official list when the RCMP expanded it in 2007.

At first, the Braems weren't sure Deena's case was similar enough to the others, as she disappeared from a secondary road. But they now wonder about the possibility their daughter was picked up by one of the logging trucks working in that area.

The road Deena was standing on runs parallel to Highway 97 but the two routes are separated by the Fraser River; it is a several-kilometre drive back into Quesnel to get back onto Highway 97, which runs from Prince George to Kamloops.

"I can't rule that out anymore," Jim said of the possibility his daughter's case belongs on the Highway of Tears list.

At least adding Deena's name to the list, Paula said, could give the case more attention and jog someone's memory.

E-Pana, the RCMP unit investigating the Highway of Tears cases, said Deena was not included on the list because of "geography." Although her case met two pieces of criteria - she was female and involved in a high-risk activity like hitchhiking - she did not meet the third criteria: when she was last seen, she was more than a mile from a major highway.

Kinloch said the Quesnel RCMP is still actively investigating the case, but noted there have been no new solid leads in recent years. And Deena's body was very decomposed, so some evidence - such as whether she was sexually assaulted - was lost.

Police continue to search for the backpack Deena was carrying that night and to appeal for new tips.

"I firmly believe that there are people out there that know exactly what happened to Deena Braem, and it's just a matter of time here before they open their mouths and confess to friends and relatives," Kinloch said.

"As to whether it's a local person who is responsible, I don't know. It could be someone from outside the area, it's just a matter of time before that person speaks."

Officers are also still trying to find two young men wearing hoodies who were seen walking along North Fraser Drive the same time Deena was hitchhiking on the road. "They are persons of interest. We'd be interested in knowing who they are and what they know," Kinloch said.

"It's just tragic that [the Braems] don't know what happened to their daughter. I sure wish I could help them out."

Still, even if a killer is caught that won't bring justice, Jim said, it will just "take a little bit off our mind."

"And it won't bring Deena back," Paula added.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Quesnel+parents+wonder+daughter+unsolved+murder+linked+Highway/2330886/story.html


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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2009, 01:20:56 AM »
I'm not certain that Mary Jane belongs here but because Mary Jane was found on Hwy 16 I will put it here. I love the T-Shirt Vicki!!!!!

What does everyone think of the last line in blue? Very telling.



Daughter searches for answers in mother's 1978 murder
 
 
By Lori Culbert, Vancouver SunDecember 15, 2009

PRINCE RUPERT — Vicki Hill was just six-months old when her mother was found dead along Highway 16.

Thirty years later, the case remains unsolved.

Vicki, now 32, is now trying to piece together what she can about the mother she never knew.

Three decades after her mother's death, Vicki tracked down a copy of her mother's death certificate at a Prince Rupert funeral home. It notes Mary Jane Hill died on Highway 16 on March 26, 1978 at the age of 31.

In 2004, a victims' services worker helped Vicki get a copy of the findings of a coroner's inquest into her mothers death.

The five jurors ruled the cause of death for Mary Jane, whose body was found 21 km east of Prince Rupert, was bronchitis and bronchopneumonia.

But the one-page document eerily adds: "We then find that the death of Mary Jane Hill as a result of manslaughter."


There are no further details. Vicki believes that someone left her mother on the highway to die.

Mary Jane was buried in an unmarked grave in a Prince Rupert cemetery. With the help of a caring outreach worker, Vicki has uncovered the coordinates of the plot. She must now find the exact location of the piece of grass under which her mother's remains lie.

"I would say this is a puzzle that I'm on, and there's pieces I don't have. But they are all the pieces I could find of her," Vicki said during a recent interview.

She wore a community event T-shirt that reads "Take Back the Highway" on the front and "There's a killer on the highway" on the back.

Although Vicki's mother was found dead along Highway 16, her name has not been added to the Highway of Tears list.

Vicki doesn't know why. She is frustrated by the Prince Rupert RCMP investigation that, in three decades, has produced no answers.

About two years ago a support worker helped Vicki contact Tony Romeyn, a Prince George businessman who runs a website dedicated to the Highway of Tears case. Romeyn added a photo and story about Mary Jane to his memorial page.

Mary Jane's file meets two of the three pieces of criteria required for an unsolved case to be put on the Highway of Tears list: She is female and she was last seen or her body was found within a mile of the highway.

However, Staff Sgt. Bruce Hulan, who runs the E-Pana investigation that is looking into the Highway of Tears cases, says the uncertainty of foul play eliminates this file a candidate for the official list.

While the coroner's jury concluded Mary Jane died of manslaughter, the autopsy results, Hulan said, leaned more towards death by natural causes.

He added that the original investigators could not determine how Mary Jane got to the spot on the highway where her body was found.

Vicki hopes to find one of the coroner's jurors, who she understands is still living in Prince Rupert, to find out if he remembers more information.

"The RCMP, I don't think myself, they are really looking into these old cases," she said quietly. "I'm quite sure they will find something along the line if they look into it. I want to find out where is my mom's evidence? . Where are her clothes? Was anything done? I'm sure she would have fought. Where is the DNA, the blood samples?"

Vicki remains disappointed by what she perceives as a lack of interest by politicians, native leaders, the public and the media in her mother's file and those of other unsolved cases in northern BC.

"I think it is important that there should be more attention to all these women who are gone, because I know what it's like to lose a loved one. Because I know the pain," said Vicki, who was born in Prince Rupert and was raised by her father's family after her mother's death.

In one of a handful of photos that Vicki has, her mother Mary Jane, a Nisga'a, stands on the government dock in Kinkolithis. She is smartly dressed in stylish clothes, wearing glasses and a short haircut that was popular in the 1960s.

During Vicki's childhood, including some unhappy years in the native town of Gitsegukla, she was not told much about her mother. Then, when she was in her early 20s, an uncle finally told her that he and her mother attended a concert on the evening she disappeared, and that he turned around and she was gone.

"They said I looked like her. She loved to play sports," Vicki said.

"Growing up without her was really hard. Especially around this time of year. I never even got to see her," added Vicki, the mother of two children, Erik, 12, and Zoey, 7. "It's not fair.... I just wish she was here to see my kids."

Hill is determined to soldier on in her search for answers, out of respect for her mother and the other missing and murdered women from Northern BC.

"I want justice. And more awareness of all the missing and murdered women. They are all human. They all had heart beats."

Since a lot of people say that Vicki looks like her mother I will put Vicki's photo up. I know 30 years have passed but......

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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2009, 03:14:47 AM »
There is a record on Unsolved for Mary Jane Hill
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,1093.0.html

And Deena Braem's record is one of the earliest records on Unsolved
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,154.0.html

Okay, I may get in trouble for this but I have to point out two things
Both Mary Jane and Deena's dates last seen were seen on full moons
Mary Jane was last seen on Easter Sunday.

I'm sorry if this is offensive but the full moon coincidence is worthy, in my opinion, of pointing out.
And Easter seems to be a frequent holiday on which many women were last seen.

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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2009, 12:15:43 PM »

Yes and up for parole again in 2010!!!! >:( >:( >:(  The families of those he murdered once again have to travel to face him across a table along with the Parole Board. I don't know why he wasn't made a 'Dangerous Offender' at the time of his trial or even shortly afterward, to save the families the heartache of facing a human being disguised as evil. The families traveled in 2008 at his first Parole Hearing. I also wish with all my heart that the Government would do something about changing the law where the families have to go through this, not to mention the expense out of their own pockets. If the Government was forced to reimburse monies to the families for travel, lodging and food, you can bet your sweet petunia they would change that soon enough.



Clifford Robert Olson Jr. was born on January 1st, 1940 at St. Paul’s Hospital, Vancouver, B.C. He would be almost 70 now.

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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2009, 12:43:12 PM »
Now that I'm on a roll with my favourite subject.....Perpetrators of crime, I'm talking the most heinous of crime, murder(s), to my way of thinking, receive a free lawyer, access to counseling before, during and after their trial, a trial, free meals, free education, various forms of counseling while incarcerated, a place to live once they walk out the front door, sometimes a name change, monies and helping hands to aid them to readjust to society. Plus the monies spent tracking them down, which sometimes adds up to millions of $$$$$$$. The only item that those found guilty loose; is their freedom, they are given everything else. So Mr Government why not at the end of their sentence, as they are walking out the door, thank them for their stay and at the same time hand them a bill for time spent, including incidentals, under Mr and Mrs Public gracious gratuities.   

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« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2009, 02:46:24 PM »
That would be amazing to hand a bill to all incarcerated people when they got out.
$60,000 a year for 25 years! $1.5 million.

Every single penny they ever make once released, after paying for a room, basic food and a few pairs of clothes, should go back to the penal system coffers.

Some days, and I know it's up to me to provide for myself, and I know I am not alone here, but some days are tough and some days I don't get three meals a day. So, yes, I agree released prisoners should have to pay for their stay.



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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2010, 01:37:31 AM »
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They [the nine cases then on the list] were essentially from the road from Prince Rupert to where Shelley Bacsu was found in Hinton, Alta.

We decided we couldn't review the files in a paper format. The size and number of boxes of file material that we have, no person can keep straight in their head - [for example] the name that appears in box number one also appears in box 200.

So we decided we would load the files into our evidence and reports database, which meant bringing the files to our officer here in Surrey, scanning them into the database and doing all the work that went with that.

We underestimated how big of a job that is, having never done it before, I thought we could get it done in three months and it took close to a year to load it in.

There were close to 200 boxes for the first nine [cases]. Just one investigation was close to 100 [boxes] - Bacsu is a big file.

I'm a little confused here because the inspector says the initial nine cases went from Prince Rupert to where Shelly Bacsu was "found" in Hinton, AB. Shelly is listed as missing, my understanding is she has not been recovered. Have I missed something? It doesn't seem right that an investigator in charge of 18 cases would make a mistake by citing Shelly as being "found" near Hinton, and not "missing" near Hinton. I would really like to know which is the case.

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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2010, 03:38:16 AM »
There is a record on Unsolved for Mary Jane Hill
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,1093.0.html

And Deena Braem's record is one of the earliest records on Unsolved
http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,154.0.html

Okay, I may get in trouble for this but I have to point out two things
Both Mary Jane and Deena's dates last seen were seen on full moons
Mary Jane was last seen on Easter Sunday.

I'm sorry if this is offensive but the full moon coincidence is worthy, in my opinion, of pointing out.
And Easter seems to be a frequent holiday on which many women were last seen.

I agree with you Desespere and I don't understand why you would get in trouble. Might you be suggesting cultist groups?
There was alot of talk on that in AB in the 80's when youngsters were going missing. A family that moved from B.C. had said there were signs of the octagon on the Island and a strange feeling in the area. Not sure if it's true but that is apparently a place rituals were done. That's even creepier than looking for a usual type suspect, imo, but I wouldn't rule that out either.

eta: OMG! Have you seen this yet?

http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?PHPSESSID=8d74442218dac46261795e85a742d889&topic=1924.msg31917;topicseen#msg31917
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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2010, 12:56:44 PM »
Desespere, I like your moon placements.  I have driven highways for a long time and I have noticed driving attitudes also concur with moon activities. But there is also times when the moon is closest and furthest from earth.  The times in activities that you have established moon accurances, can there also be a difference in moons distant relationship to earth? I have thoughts on this but, I find you the more prominant person to establish the connection since you have much info already.

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« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2010, 11:58:01 PM »
Desespere, I like your moon placements.  I have driven highways for a long time and I have noticed driving attitudes also concur with moon activities. But there is also times when the moon is closest and furthest from earth.  The times in activities that you have established moon accurances, can there also be a difference in moons distant relationship to earth? I have thoughts on this but, I find you the more prominant person to establish the connection since you have much info already.

Do you mean like cases in winter vs summer or no moon vs full moon?

Some people who post here, people I respect and admire greatly, do not like to hear about ritual suspicions so I try to honour that. Sometime, however, there is so much coincidence that it's hard for me to keep it in.

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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2010, 04:13:08 AM »
Desespere, I like your moon placements.  I have driven highways for a long time and I have noticed driving attitudes also concur with moon activities. But there is also times when the moon is closest and furthest from earth.  The times in activities that you have established moon accurances, can there also be a difference in moons distant relationship to earth? I have thoughts on this but, I find you the more prominant person to establish the connection since you have much info already.

Do you mean like cases in winter vs summer or no moon vs full moon?

Some people who post here, people I respect and admire greatly, do not like to hear about ritual suspicions so I try to honour that. Sometime, however, there is so much coincidence that it's hard for me to keep it in.

Would it be possible to have a sub-forum for discussion of this type and then it's up to those who want to join it, and those that don't won't be bothered by it?
Like I said in the 80's there was alot of talk of it. I had my first little girl then and I had been approached in a large store in Edmonton by a woman who offered to look after my little one so I could shop. She had fit the description of one who was seen in southern AB trying to take a child. I get really creeped out with the occult, however I think it's a very realistic worry and subject.

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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2010, 04:45:51 PM »
There is a section call 'occult' in the members only section where I've been posting about full moons and occult dates relative to dates last seen of victims.

But for E-Pana this is what I have recorded: (red is ritual or full moon, bold red is both full moon and ritual)

#1 - 1969/10/25 - Gloria Moody - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,965.0.html - last seen on full moon and occult ritual
#2 - 1970/07/08 - Micheline Pare - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,964.0.html - no dates
#3 - 1973/10/19 - Gale Weys - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,949.0.html - last seen occult ritual
#4 - 1973/11/06 - Pam Darlington - http//www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,950.0.html - last seen "high" occult ritual

#5 - 1974/08/09 - Colleen MacMillan - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,951.0.html - no dates
#6 - 1974/12/13 - Monica Ignas - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,952.0.html - 13th of month is ritual date
#7 - 1978/05/06 - Monica Jack - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,953.0.html - no dates
#8 - 1981/05/08 - Maureen Mosie - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,954.0.html - no dates
#9 - 1983/05/03 - Shelly Bacsu - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,955.0.html - 2 days after date
#10 - 1989/08/26 - Alberta Williams - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/board,46.0.html - 2 days after date
#11 - 1990/06/14 - Dephine Nikal - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/board,46.0.html - 3 days before date
#12 - 1994/06/11 - Ramona Wilson - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,58.0.html - no dates
#13 - 1994/07/02 - Roxanne Thiara - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,961.0.html - last seen ritual date
#14 - 1994/12/09 - Alishia Germaine - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,962.0.html - no dates
#15 - 1995/10/07 - Lana Derrick - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,107.0.html - last seen full moon/Thanksgiving
#16 - 2002/06/21 - Nicole Hoar - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,963.0.html - last seen ritual date/3 days of FM
#17 - 2005/09/21 - Tamara Chipman - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,947.0.html - last seen ritual date/3 days aft FM
#18 - 2006/02/02 - Aeilah Saric-Auger - http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php/topic,944.0.html - last seen ritual date

Those that are not ritual dates or full moons of these 18 - dates are
1970/07/08
1974/08/09
1978/05/06
1981/05/08
1983/05/03
1989/08/26
1990/06/14
1994/06/11
1994/12/09

Particularly notable are the three consecutive early May dates
9 of 18 are dates so not sure if that ratio means anything or it's all just coincidence.
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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2010, 09:46:13 AM »
Thank you Des. If you don't feel comfortable leaving it here, I can check the Members only place. I haven't been through alot of areas yet.

 

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