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Project Kare up to the task, expert says
« on: September 14, 2008, 04:17:58 AM »
http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=c8a6abed-e73e-4914-9426-3eae570fbf54

Project Kare up to the task, expert says
More solved cases predicted as RCMP missing women's unit lays murder charge


EDMONTON - Although Project Kare took more than three years to lay murder charges in a local woman's death, a U.S. expert says it's still one of North America's top specialized homicide teams.

On Friday, RCMP announced the group had charged Joseph Laboucan, 23, with second-degree murder in the death of Edmonton prostitute Ellie May Meyer, whose body was found in a farmer's field in 2005.

Steven Egger, a former homicide detective and expert on serial killer investigations at the University of Houston-Clear Lake, says he isn't worried about the speed of their work.


If anybody can solve these cases, it's Project Kare," he said Saturday.

"I don't think I've seen a better organization that could deal with a number of killings in one area." More than 16 Edmonton prostitutes have been slain since the late 1980s and their bodies left in rural areas.

Egger has been a harsh critic of similar police task forces in other cities.

He once called the police response to the continued killing of prostitutes in Vancouver's downtown Eastside an "absolute disaster." But in 2006, he joined a group of specialists in sex crimes and homicides on a tour of Project Kare's downtown Edmonton office.

He was impressed, he says, and remains pleased with their progress.

"Basically, everything they're doing is everything right," he said. "I suspect they're going to end up solving more cases." Gary Beaulieu, deputy chief of Ontario's Niagara Regional Police Service, also praises Project Kare, calling it a well-run organization.

Beaulieu was an investigator for four years on a case that eventually led to the murder convictions of Paul Bernardo.

The Project Kare team has cost the Alberta government more than $11 million, but has performed diligently, said Andy Weiler, a spokesman for the Solicitor General's office.

"We know it's very important work," he said. "The public expects this work to continue because there are a lot of unsolved cases out there." These investigations can sometimes take an extraordinary period of time, said RCMP Corp. Wayne Oakes.

A homicide detective's first step in any case is to identify the victim and who they last contacted, but that can be difficult with people living high-risk lifestyles, Oakes said.

They usually don't have a routine work schedule and may lack regular phone and bank account activity.

"These are the most difficult of the difficult cases for any law enforcement organization." Egger said Project Kare took the initiative by forming quickly after several prostitutes were killed in 2003.

The team then gained the trust of many sex-trade workers. More than 500 prostitutes have voluntarily submitted strands of hair, fingerprints and photos to help identify them if they are killed.

Meyer, 33, was last seen April 1, 2005, two days before 13-year-old Nina Courtepatte was raped and murdered on an out-of-town golf course.

Laboucan is serving a life sentence after being convicted of first-degree murder in that case.

He'll appear in Strathcona County provincial court Monday.

slillebuen@thejournal.canwest.com


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Re: Project Kare up to the task, expert says
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2008, 04:18:41 AM »
I guess if you are a person who killed someone in Alberta and got away with it....... You Better Be Nervous!

Good job Kare!

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Re: Project Kare up to the task, expert says
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2008, 06:31:35 PM »
Kay,
I don't want to burst anyone's bubble but these are the comments I have to make:

Egger says he's not worried about the speed in which Kare is working. Well, I am worried because how many women have been murdered in Edmonton since the task force was formed - ummmm.... about 10? But it is great an arrest has been made. This kind of news brings a lot of hope to a lot of families I'm sure but holy, we can't have more killings.


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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2008, 11:29:32 PM »
Well I think Kare has to wait to make an arrest until they have the evidence requred. But I am sure they do keep some people under watch. I am not sure how all of a sudden they were able to convince a crown attorney to file charges now, something new must have come in the investigataion.

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Re: Project Kare up to the task, expert says
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2008, 06:09:49 AM »


Egger says he's not worried about the speed in which Kare is working. Well, I am worried because how many women have been murdered in Edmonton since the task force was formed - ummmm.... about 10? But it is great an arrest has been made. This kind of news brings a lot of hope to a lot of families I'm sure but holy, we can't have more killings.



I agree totally Desespere. 

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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2008, 07:58:21 PM »
I think what suddenly happened is they finally got the DNA results and that was enough to convince the Crown.

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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2008, 01:42:29 AM »
I think what suddenly happened is they finally got the DNA results and that was enough to convince the Crown.

If it took that long, that is quite sad. 3 years is not acceptable. I remember this case very specifically, it was the one in which I was near Edmonton and the police told me about and then I joined kare forum. That seems so long ago.

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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2008, 05:20:43 PM »
My personal opinion is that when Laboucan was convicted he was ordered to give DNA and that DNa result resulted in these charges. We know it takes a long time to get DNA results. But what I am thinking here is that at one of the women's trials the info came out about the DNA, and that was several months ago, so I'm not really sure why it took so long to charge him. I guess the answers will come when more charges are laid.

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 03:19:57 AM »
I wonder wh we have to wait until they are conviceted to get DNA? Why can't they just seek a warrent like a home search if there is probably cause? That is weird and slows down investigations.

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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 01:21:02 PM »

From another thread:

To Kare, and others that are helping. Like the profilers, and criminologists, and other forces.:;

With the charge of murder being laid against Joseph Laboucan, shows me, that even tho you don't lay your cards on the table, you are actively doing a great job. I know you are now working different provinces, and linkages.I have known this a while now. There must be linKages all over.

Finding that some kids, may have also acted, along with Joseph Laboucan, is scarey!!!  >:(  >:(  >:(

Keep UP The Good Work!!!!!

I know this type of crime takes a while to un ravel, especially if you are looking at multiple killers, doing multiple crimes. Green River took , what, 30 years? This Force is relatively new, and I support Kare all the way, and welcome any thing that Steven Egger has to say, Thankyou!
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